OOTS #494 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Green Bean]

I love the Little Engine That Could reference. I had that book memorized when I was little. :smallbiggrin:

[TroyXavier]

That was so wrong and yet so funny. Roy's reactions are priceless.

[DArKandEViL]

Funny, I need that book.

[The Vorpal Tribble]

That... was awesome. And I live for psionic references.

*hugs today's comic*

[Setra]

Bwahahahaha

[[Insert Neat Username Here]]

Definitely the most disturbing comic so far.

And the Little Psion that Could is great.

EDIT: Why is Roy's mom so glad to see that her son is dead?

[Gallanoth]

"Because your father's always been a wrinkled old man in his heart, he was just hiding in a younger man's body most of his life" Hehe priceless
Great work Giant:smallbiggrin:

[Zakama]

"How does she know my name?" Ha, that was great.

And little psion that could is brilliant too.

[Solo]

Hehe.... urg...

[Artector]

Kudos for the psionics.

I know what MILF stands for.. but the "D" is throwing me, maybe I"m just being naive now.

[Nu]

That's awkward.

[martyboy74]

As usual, you are a genius. You showed me a case where "I think I can" actually means something!

So, who thinks we'll reach 500 before going back to the rest of the party? Or maybe Roy'll be rezzed in 500...

[pinkvishnu]

Ha! My favorite part by far was the little psion that could! I don't know why, but I found it extremely amusing.

[SPoD]

I know what MILF stands for.. but the "D" is throwing me, maybe I"m just being naive now.

"D" stands for "Dead".

[Xenon]

poor poor roy... hes going to be stuck in the comedic afterlife skit longer than he anticipated.

[Drider]

Kudos for the psionics.

I know what MILF stands for.. but the "D" is throwing me, maybe I"m just being naive now.

dead, making it nastier

ninja'ed

[Cyrano]

Brilliance! I want that children's book!

[Porthos]

BWAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

"No, that's.....no thanks, Mom."

BWAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

EDIT:::: DMILF?????? :smalleek: :smalleek:

Oh my. :smalleek:

[Barrin]

Funny, I'm not quite sure what the MILF part means, myself... >_>

[Da Beast]

Great comic. The little Psion that could was all kinds of awesome.

[[Insert Neat Username Here]]

Funny, I'm not quite sure what the MILF part means, myself... >_>

We can't define it on these forums. You'll have to seek answers elsewhere.

[Porthos]

Funny, I'm not quite sure what the MILF part means, myself... >_>

Mother I'd Like to <BLEEP>

It's usually used to describe attractive older women.

[Mr_Saturn]

Funny, I'm not quite sure what the MILF part means, myself... >_>

You'd rather not know. :smallsigh: Or you can google it.

EDIT: double-ninja'ed

Wow, children's stories and wrong acronym's in one comic.

[PlasticSoldier]

Wow, the giants been productive lately what is this 4 in 4 days?

Edit: Love'd the Psion Joke

[silvadel]

Looks like being in celestia makes you naive...

[tgva8889]

I'm sorry. "The Little Psion that Could"? That's priceless. Thanks, Rich, for yet another hilarious comic.

I'm wondering, is this you making up for not doing Belkar in Heaven by having Miko kill him? 'Cause Roy in Heaven is pretty funny.

[[Insert Neat Username Here]]

I'm sorry. "The Little Psion that Could"? That's priceless. Thanks, Rich, for yet another hilarious comic.

I'm wondering, is this you making up for not doing Belkar in Heaven by having Miko kill him? 'Cause Roy in Heaven is pretty funny.

You mean Belkar in hell.

[Porthos]

You know, trying to ignore the whole MILF thing for a second, it doesn't look like Eugene will exactly be welcome in the Sara household if he ever does get into Celestia the Celestial Realms.

"Trying to forget she ever heard the name Eugene Greenhilt" and "always has been a wrinkled old man in his heart." aren't exactly signs that Sara really wants him back.

Interesting....

[Edea]

That's awkward.

^_________^

[Xerxes Shadow]

I think I can, I think I can... Giant, please write and publish that book. I will worship you as a god if you do...

[Tiberian]

If your afterlife is your idealized image of yourself (or your true self, because I doubt Eugene sees himself as a wrinkled old man) and a True Rez brings a person back to life sans body requirement, then would a True Rez create a corporeal body fitting with the idealized image in the afterlife? Its now RAW, but a lot of Rich's jokes/world isn't RAW. Hmm...a query.

[Sir Samuel]

That was awesome. My little brother always listens to a thing in the car and it has 'The little Red engine'. It's Awesome, the Littion Psion

[selgnij]

You'd rather not know. :smallsigh: Or you can google it.

I have just one thing to say to that, anyone not 18 or 21 in some states:

Do NOT Google it!!

That is all. :)

[wojonatior]

you can lay on my lap honey.:smallsmile:
:roy: :smalleek: no that's.... no thanks mom.:smalleek:

[Leliel]

Belive me, I can understand Roy's confusion. If I saw my mother de-aged 20-or-so years, I'd be confused to.

[Damage Control]

"Trying to forget she ever heard the name Eugene Greenhilt" and "always has been a wrinkled old man in his heart." aren't exactly signs that Sara really wants him back.I'd chance a guess Eugene feels the same way (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0039.html).

[tgva8889]

;3348650']You mean Belkar in hell.

Well, Belkar in the Afterlife to be correct. He could, technically, go to the heaven of whatever God he believes in.

[DraPrime]

Wow, that's just weird. If I saw my mom as the 19 year old she once was I'd freak out.

[NikkTheTrick]

New comic is up.
:smalleek: :smalleek: :smalleek:
Did you look through the OOtS House of Horrors thread before drawing the last few comics?

This was so wrong.... and we so love it:smalleek: :smallredface: :smallamused:

EDIT: On the other hand, I doubt there would be too much guilt with 1-night stands now... although... *puts head in a vat of acid*

[Hario]

Ok I'm gonna explain todays comic in one word: ::Shudders::

Ok now besides that its probably 'D' in DMILF means dead but it could also mean 'de' as in The Milf, or D could describe something else.. ::whistles innocently::

[Dark Wolf]

Unfortunately knowing what the title means detracts from the comic. I really hope it won't be going down a road that will put me off.

[Vulion]

...*cough*...awkward...but hilarious!:smalleek: :smallbiggrin:

[Aethir]

Oh wow, I never thought I could be so creeped out by a comic in my life.

Pure awesome for the little psion that could though.

[Aerysil]

I think Roy is worried about getting the hots for his mom. What a sicko!

Well, wait...

[Lizard Lord]

Ok I'm gonna explain todays comic in one word: ::Shudders::

Ok now besides that its probably 'D' in DMILF means dead but it could also mean 'de' as in The Milf, or D could describe something else.. ::whistles innocently::

I am pretty sure it means dead.

[Grug]

LOL! the Little Psion that could made the comic!

[SteveMB]

Raise your hand if Tom Lehrer's "Oedipus Rex" is playing through your head....

[DownwardSpiral]

I just had to say, that little engine that could reference was the worst pun I've heard in a forever. =D It still made me laugh so much though.:smallcool:

[Pyro]

I always loved the Little Engine that Could. Sigh good times....

[Lemur]

Hah! At long last, a nod to psionics in the comic! All is right with the world again. :smallbiggrin:

[David Argall]

Sniff, sniff. I'm not getting 494 yet. Still just 493

[Solo]

You are obviously being punished.

[Porthos]

Sniff, sniff. I'm not getting 494 yet. Still just 493

Try CTRL-R (or CMD-R if on a Mac).

Or just go here: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0494.html :smallsmile:

[Maratanos]

Sniff, sniff. I'm not getting 494 yet. Still just 493

Whoa, there's this amazing thing that you can do. It's called "refreshing."


Radical, eh?


All other things beside, if you're still having problems, try a direct link (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0494.html).


EDIT: GRARGH! Ninja'd.

[Solmage]

Hahahaha! :smalltongue:

Poor poor Roy. Are we SURE this isn't purgatory? :smallbiggrin:

PS: I feel like it's christmas or something .. soo much oots goodness!

[Laesin]

Raise your hand if Tom Lehrer's "Oedipus Rex" is playing through your head....

"There once was a man called Oedipus Rex
You may have heard about his odd complex
His mame appears in Freud's Index
'Cause he LOVED his Motheerrr."

Consider my hand raised.

The early days of a former paladin who shall remain nameless had me humming "The Masochism Tango" when Roy made a pass at her as well.

[NikkTheTrick]

Someone, PLEASE give an explanation of what the last four letters in the title are OTHER than what I think they are:smalleek:

[Mr._Blinky]

Knowing what the acronym means just makes it even more disturbing.:smalleek:

[WarriorTribble]

That was disturbingly cute. Heh, now we now Roy's mom is nicer that dad (not that it's surprising). Can you imagine what he'd say if Roy demanded confirmation?

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2008/eugeneia1.gif: I couldn't get you to stop touching yourself until you were eight. Then puberty came in more ways then one...

[Tussy the Druid]

I think i can i think i can....

[Porthos]

Someone, PLEASE give an explanation of what the last four letters in the title are OTHER than what I think they are:smalleek:

Sorry. Can't. :smalltongue:

Check Wikipedia, if you don't believe me. :smallamused:

[AtomicKitKat]

Mother I'd Like to <BLEEP>

It's usually used to describe attractive older women.

No, just those who either already have children, or have one on the way.

D could be either Divine or Dead.

[mikeejimbo]

Oh my Gods that's sick!

I think Roy can I think Roy can...

[Aquillion]

EDIT: Why is Roy's mom so glad to see that her son is dead?He's an adventurer. This just proves he's active.

[Duaneyo1]

Stifler's mom is a Milf, Milf Milf, Milf, Milf, Milf. And it does stand for Mom I'd like to (obscenity retracted ).


I suppose that in celes..... top of the mountain :) your appearance changes to match your personality. Roy's mom was fun loving and young at heart and since Eugene was a crotchety, miserable (slang term for male genitalia retracted ). He appears as an old man.

[Lira]

Oh my gosh, that was hilarious. XD Poor Roy, but great comic. Thank you so much for updating a lot recently, it's made this week really great.

[smellie_hippie]

Oh my. That's just wrong on soooooo many levels.....

DMILF....

Need....... to ......... catch... breath........ *gasp* :smallbiggrin:

[Lissou]

wow, you've been really fast lately.
Let's enjoy that ^_^ (and we are).
Don't feel like you have to, though. We all know you need to rest sometimes.

[Fuzzy_Juan]

Heh...cue 'Stacy's Mom'...:smallbiggrin:

On a side note...when interviewed about the song 'Stacy's Mom', the origins of the song stem from a boyhood crush of a band member's grandmother who was fairly young (mid 40's I think) when the boy was 8-10 or so. It gave him the idea to write the song, but figured people weren't ready for the grand milf or gmilf...so they made the mom a younger mother, and made it the mother of some other young girl rather than part of the family.

I have to remember the psion line next time I play a Psion..priceless.

[malakim2099]

Raise your hand if Tom Lehrer's "Oedipus Rex" is playing through your head....

How about PDQ Bach's "Oedipus Tex"? :smallcool:

Awesome comic, and talk about making up for lost time. WOW! Don't strain too much, Giant!

[†Seer†]

Laughed throughout all of that! Thank you Giant!

[webgem]

Yup, super ackward, but very funny!

[Haruki-kun]

That was a really cool comic, but............. that title's gonna haunt my nightmares from here on........:smalleek:

[Felixaar]

...Roy's mum is HOT!

(sorry, I just had to say it)

[Raistlin1040]

Wow. This takes the Hot Mom idea to a whole new level.

[Brasswatchman]

Yow. Damn, that's awkward. You'd think there'd be some way for Roy to reset his perceptions so that he's more comfortable - wouldn't it make sense that he'd see his mom as he always imagined her, rather than as she imagined herself to be?

[Korias]

Now Roy's gonna be INCREDIBLY guilty about those one night stands.... And DMILF? Agh! No! Bad Giant! Children read this comic!

Other than that, great comic. But When did Roy's mom die?

[FoE]

What's the word I'm looking for? Creeptastic. :smallbiggrin:

[Brasswatchman]

... oh, crap. Belker's going to die and sleep with Roy's mom now, isn't he? I don't care if he's not even close to Lawful Good, it's going to happen now...

[Lukahatt]

Well, at least now we understand from where some of Julia's "personality traits" has come from.

[EvilElitest]

"Because your father's always been a wrinkled old man in his heart, he was just hiding in a younger man's body most of his life" Hehe priceless
Great work Giant:smallbiggrin:

It makes sense really

But even by giant's standards, this is rather riske
from,
EE

[Maratanos]

Now Roy's gonna be INCREDIBLY guilty about those one night stands.... And DMILF? Agh! No! Bad Giant! Children read this comic!

Other than that, great comic. But When did Roy's mom die?

Read the comic: three years ago.

[Charles Phipps]

"Trying to forget she ever heard the name Eugene Greenhilt" and "always has been a wrinkled old man in his heart." aren't exactly signs that Sara really wants him back.

Interesting....

Well, given Eugene's first acts upon entering Heaven was to start playing the field....

He's not exactly shown himself to want to reconcile.

[Korias]

Read the comic: three years ago.

Roy's cut off before he can finish. This means its 3 years since something. Last time he saw her? When she died? Last time that they shared a cup of tea?

[the_tick_rules]

doesn't roy have enough to deal with without a MILF adding to his troubles?

[Kyeudo]

Great Comic, Disturbing Images. It is concievable that Roy's mom makes generous use of the Tavern of Infinite One Night Stands.

[jnola]

Brilliant!

[Deuce]

Raise your hand if Tom Lehrer's "Oedipus Rex" is playing through your head....


Actually, "Oedipus Tex", by P.D.Q. Bach.

:smallbiggrin:

(I see I'm not the only fan of the oddest of Bach's twenty-odd children).

[Retief]

And before these last couple of comics, I thought Heaven was fairly straight-laced...:smalleek:
Anyway, great couple of comics.

[Bel_Bel]

After reading through the replies and getting all the jokes (some quite hidden) I missed, I am simply going:

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nice! This comic rules! :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin:

[PhantomFox]

"I think I can, I think I can..."

That is the most AWFUL pun I've heard in a while.
...
I LOVE it.

[Bucephalus]

DANG that would be awk.

[mockingbyrd7]

The Little Psion that Could? That is SO AWESOME! Notice that the "I think I can"s are in thought bubbles, since he's a psion. I love how Roy's mom's blouse even has the low-cut back and everything. "No, that's... no thanks Mom." It's disturbing but in a REALLY funny way. I don't think anybody expected this, and the output of strips lately has been very quick and high quality. Go Rich!

[sealemon]

Equal parts win and disturbing, Rich. I want to laugh and bleach out my brain at the same time. Nice job.

[Daedalus73]

Hahahaha I love the title of the comic.

[Vuzzmop]

So disturbing...must...poke...out...minds...eye! I have been waiting to see psions in OOTS though, and that one looks like a less bald Ialdabode, which is like taking win, and sticking purple hair to it. Wicked.

[thorgrim29]

That was sweet.... I wonder if Roy's mom as a lover or just "uses" the tavern?

[mause]

Gods great comic
Why Roy not even in the afterlife can have peace?
Thank you so much Rich

[EmeraldFire]

When I saw the title for this comic (I had a pretty good idea what the D stood for and I know what a MILF is) I just knew that Roy had to have found his mother, and disturbing hilarity was going to ensue.

I especially liked how his mom's ideal version of herself was her before she met Eugene.

[StrykerX]

;3348650']You mean Belkar in hell.

Nah... he'd enjoy that too much. Sending him to heaven would be a far worse punishment... :smallbiggrin:

[shaddy_24]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was warped by that comic. Jeeze Giant! That weirded me out! :shudders a few times:

[Generic PC]

Wow. that was... scary, to say the least. funny, but disturbing.

[Alfryd]

New comic is up.
Good stuff. Do not let me detain you.

And once I "zero out" my late comic balance, any additional comics beyond three that I do in any given week will go into a hypothetical buffer to guard against future absences. Or at least, that's the plan. We'll see how it plays out in reality.
...excellent. Now, all the pieces are in place.
Good show.


On the other hand, I doubt there would be too much guilt with 1-night stands now... although... *puts head in a vat of acid*
Why is everyone else feeling embarrassed? It's not like it's your mother.
Plus, it's not like potential inbreeding would actually be a risk once you're dead.
Look, I'm just saying...
Sheesh, it's not like...
You have to look at the situation logically, people.

The early days of a former paladin who shall remain nameless had me humming "The Masochism Tango" when Roy made a pass at her as well.
What?! Back then? She hadn't even eviscerated anyone!
...much.

Someone, PLEASE give an explanation of what the last four letters in the title are OTHER than what I think they are...
Mother I'd Love to Frack. See? BSG makes everything better.

[Milandros]

Raise your hand if Tom Lehrer's "Oedipus Rex" is playing through your head....

[Raises hand] Yup!

It can always feel amore than a little wierd when you see pictures of your mother as a hot 20 year old. Nobody reallly wants to think that their mother was just like the girls you knew at that age - but she was.

One day your kids will look at you and go "eeeewwww... you mean he/she actually did it? Like, for real?"

[Icewalker]

I can't believe the name of the comic...Great one though.

[Naltyrr]

Hilarious, wrong, and awesome! love the name.

[skinkatlarge]

That was sweet.... I wonder if Roy's mom as a lover or just "uses" the tavern?Hmmm. That raises a good question. Mortal marriages have the built-in "'til death do we part" escape hatch... What about post-mortem marriage? Is it even allowed? Doesn't seem like it would fit well with the whole expectation that the dead will focus on more etherial spiritual concerns in a few decades or centuries... And eternity is a long, loooong time if you picked wrong.

Laughed out loud at "I think I can"; apparently was in the minority in not being all that creeped out by mom being a MILF, though I could sympathize with Roy.

[teratorn]

It can always feel amore than a little wierd when you see pictures of your mother as a hot 20 year old. Nobody reallly wants to think that their mother was just like the girls you knew at that age - but she was.


This must be an american thing. Things don't work like that. You feel the same you feel about your sisters. You just say, "hey look how young mother used to look". You guys are creepy!

[Gengy]

Giant...

I have never respected you more then I do at this very moment.

'Little Psion that Could'

"I think I can, I think I can..."

Priceless. Still laughing. Having trouble typing full words.

You rock. Hard.

[ryos]

Panel six = best OotS joke EVAR!

[Cywar]

Don't find anything disturbing about the title...

i mean... cmon... this is the Internet, what did whe expect to find? This comic even has a shemale...

Just Kidding... awesome title, awesome strip. Rich sir...You rock.

[NeonRonin]

ROFLMAO!!!! :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin:

That has to have been one of the funniest and at the same time disturbing strips yet; not only do we get a so-horrible-it's-funny psionics pun, we get to see Roy being wigged out by the fact his mom is a hottie. And that one little throwaway line from Roy's Archon- "How did you know my name?" Cute.

And this has probably already been mentioned by somebody and I just haven't had time to read it, but how many people agree with Sara, that Eugene has always been a crotchety old geezer regardless of what physical age he was at the time? (Raises hand emphatically)

Brilliant, Rich. Keep up the good work.

[Cywar]

D could mean Desperate...

[redzimmer]

Between the one night stands then going to your parents' house, and now an Uppercase A Awkward reunion with Mom, I'd have to say Roy is better off rezzed.

[Shatteredtower]

Ah, sweet justice. Time to accept that your mother's a woman, Roy, and that women are just other people.

[Ganurath]

Affirmation of psionics... and apparently an Oedipus Complex. Funny stuff today.

"How do you know my name?"

[Grady]

BAHAHAHA!

It took me a moment to get the last panel but when I did it was hilarious.
Poor Roy has the hots for his mum.

[Alysar]

Yes, Rich actually went there.

The man has no fear. :smallcool: :smallamused:

All hail Rich.

[Caledonian]

Well, at least now we understand from where some of Julia's "personality traits" has come from.

As well as some of her other attributes.

[AdInfinitum]

The correct word is Hilaristurbing.

Thank you, Alexandra Erin.

[David Argall]

You know, trying to ignore the whole MILF thing for a second, it doesn't look like Eugene will exactly be welcome in the Sara household if he ever does get into Celestia the Celestial Realms.

"Trying to forget she ever heard the name Eugene Greenhilt" and "always has been a wrinkled old man in his heart." aren't exactly signs that Sara really wants him back.


Well, hard to be sure, but my bet is that she is patiently waiting for him [not necessarily alone while she waits, but....] She does not say she is trying to forget Eugene, merely that she pictures herself as perfect before she met him [and many women feel that motherhood did their figure no good.]

Origen Eugune is described on his tombstone as "Devoted Husband, Passable Father". Granted, it is partly just a routine statement, but it suggests Sara had a thing for him. We can add that she died about a year later, at an age of maybe 50. That's not shockingly young, but quite a bit below what one would expect, and consistent with her dying of grief.

Now what is the shock that Sara is a hot piece? Didn't you read (Origen, SOD) Sara picks Eugene up and is not hesitant about showing off that figure.

We have been shown pretty consistently that Roy is pretty conservative, which is fitting for a LG, and makes for great amusement at his distress at finding Ma does not fit his conservative picture.

This is a very good comic, but it is distinctly predictable.

[Winter_Wolf]

When I saw 494's title, I just knew. But I opened it anyway. Then nearly choked on my tongue from laughing so hard. Maybe this is why some characters returning from the dead are so messed up in the head when they get back, eh?

[Archpaladin Zousha]

Can you say awkward?:smalltongue:

[Porthos]

Well, hard to be sure, but my bet is that she is patiently waiting for him [not necessarily alone while she waits, but....] She does not say she is trying to forget Eugene, merely that she pictures herself as perfect before she met him [and many women feel that motherhood did their figure no good.]

Origen Eugune is described on his tombstone as "Devoted Husband, Passable Father". Granted, it is partly just a routine statement, but it suggests Sara had a thing for him. We can add that she died about a year later, at an age of maybe 50. That's not shockingly young, but quite a bit below what one would expect, and consistent with her dying of grief.

I thought along your lines at first. Which really puzzled me, since her attitude here doesn't jive with what you mentioned in the spoiler bars. Then I remembered her actions in SoD, coupled with the look on her face in #113. So I thought of an alternative idea:

It is distinctly possible that Eugene commissioned his own Memorial Staute, and if so, dictated what was to be on the statue. He's definietly ego-centric enough to have done that.

We really don't have any info either way, but it's at least one solution to the conundrum. :smallsmile:

As for the dying a year later thing, it could just be one of those freaky coincidences. Unfortunatly we really don't know on that score at the moment either....

[Finn Solomon]

Okay, forget the rest. Without hyperbole, THIS is the best comic ever written.

[Axl_Rose]

Compare to

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html

aww

[magney]

An alternative view on the "Devoted Husband, Passable Father" thing... Roy's mom has had three years to think about her whole life, and the place within it of her marriage to Eugene. She may have had time to realize that in retrospect, she could possibly have done better (though in fairness, she could've done worse).

Also, there's the matter of effort vs. effectiveness. Just because he was devoted to her doesn't mean he was good at reading her moods and desires and wishes. I think she may have stuck with him at least partly because she could tell that he was trying, in his rather clumsy and self-absorbed way, to be as good a husband as he could manage.

Of course, she may have stuck with him for other reasons too. The comic hasn't explored gender equality, divorce issues, or other social matters in great detail, not least because it's covered so many different parts of the world that it'd never have time to go into that level of detail for all of them, but it's possible that the lands where the Greenhilt family lived take the "until death do we part" oath quite seriously, and have no concept of no-fault divorce. But at least in part, I think Eugene Greenhilt really was a devoted husband in his intent, if perhaps his actions did not always measure up.

[Pax_Chi]

First post here in a while, but if anything warrants a response, its this comic.

As with most everyone else, "The Little Psion That Could" had to be one of the best puns ever. I bow to the awesomeness that is Rich. He needs to head over to Callahands for Punday Night.

As for Roy, well, its understandable to be kind of creeped out by seeing ones mom as a hot 19 year old that's physically younger than he is. Just imagine right off someone probably about 10 years younger than you acted like your mother? And then add to the awkwardness by making her attractive and that leads to Epic level awkwardness. Here's hoping Celia pops in soon so that Roy can have a little bit of relief from an afterlife that's already more stressful than he considered.

Overall, great strip.

[Matuse]

As I post this, I have not even read the new comic yet. I clicked on my bookmark, and then read the comic title on the left side "DMILF", and that by itself was enough.

Oh man, I've not laughed so hard in a week.

Now to actually read the strip...

[Ridureyu]

;3348650']You mean Belkar in hell.

Belkar in heaven would BE his own personal Hell.

[sun_tzu]

Belkar in heaven would BE his own personal Hell.

I'm not convinced. All the one-night stands and challenging fights he could want? The first layer of Celestia sounds like he could enjoy it.

[Porthos]

Hmmmm.... As Tordek said over in the DMILF thread, it could mean:

Dead Mother I'd Like to Find.

After all, Roy was talking about he was looking forward to seeing his mother again.

Hmmmm.....

<Porthos re-reads #494>

Yeah.... Maybe not. :smallamused:

[Zoolooman]

Gahahahahaha.

[Oberon]

There's a quote from Bill and Ted's excellent Adventure that I think would be appropriate for this moment. I think it goes something like this:

"Dude, your mom's hot!"

[David Argall]

her actions in SoD, coupled with the look on her face in #113. So I thought of an alternative idea:

It is distinctly possible that Eugene commissioned his own Memorial Staute, and if so, dictated what was to be on the statue. He's definietly ego-centric enough to have done that.


113 gives us no serious information about Sara-Jerome relations. We can rule out her being absolutely dominant in the household since she can't settle the dispute between father and son. But beyond this, we can pretty much make up any story we want. Recall too that Roy is in an emotional state and his memories are at best highly selective, if even correct.

The wording seems wrong for an Eugene commissioned memorial. One rarely confesses to being less than the best, and admitting to being a passable father, even if a standard a lot of fathers don't reach, doesn't seem likely for someone who liked to edit his own Wikiepedia article and had his Wizzie trophies on display in the front hall. He would just too much want to put a good spin on it. "Disappointed" is a word that he might use. "Guiding". [Roy would call it manipulative, but...] "Inspiring" [Just what he inspired might be disputed, but...]
Now Sara writing it can be seen as willing to use passable. Not surprisingly, she is on her children's side and wanted Eugene to do a good deal more. So if she had put down he was a great hubby, she might feel forced to mention fatherhood, and decided that passable was about the best she could honestly do.

So I will stick with Sara being eager for Jerome to rejoin her, tho she may have a boyfriend[s] comforting her in the meantime.

[NoDot]

Do we get another entry for this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotShounenMom) article?

[Sebastian]

I have just one thing to say to that, anyone not 18 or 21 in some states:

Do NOT Google it!!

That is all. :)

You can use wikipedia for things you are unsure, it is usually complete and mostly SFW.

[Max_Sinister]

It's still getting better and better.

But yes, the last panel was a bit disturbing. I mean, in the LAP?

[Sebastian]

That is not awkward. When she bring home her one-night stand(s), THAT will be awkward.

[Dentarg]

When I finally die, and if that situation ever were to happen to me in the afterlife, that'd feel really, really awkward...

Awesome comic!

- Dentarg

[Pax_Chi]

I know Eugene's fans (a concept that confuses me to no end) are hoping Sara is waiting for him to return so they can reconcile, but I'm not really buying it. I have to imagine their marriage is pretty much over, as Eugene was already playing the field after he was dead, citing the letter of their vows rather than their intent. Combine that with Sara's ideal form being from the time before she met Eugene pretty much seals the deal, even without her comments on him being a wrinkled old man. It sounds like whatever love they might have had was slowly strangled to death over the years, and if I were a betting man on whose hands did most of the choking, it'd be Eugene.

I'm also not seeing a whole lot of Julia in Sara beyond some obvious physical similarities. There's been a whole comic and there was only one comment that was even remotely snarky.

[Kdansky]

Pure comedy gold, one of the best comedy-only strips in the last 500 :)

Hint: Try to search old photos of your mother in the 20's. Many of you are in for a surprise.

[Celtic19]

You know the main reason i actually made an account was to thank rich for his hard work the past week in producing comics. I mean i didnt expect the comic yesterday and it was a pleasant surprise but honestly didn't think he would have yet another up for todays viewing. It was great and i want to say thanks

Anyways I love the "DMILF" and how Roy's mom is a hot babe.

But has anyone thought that since his mom still thinks of herself as a 19 year old woman that she might enjoy visiting the "bar of infinite one-night stands" (or whatever it is) and decide to bring home a guy every night.

Imagine roy sleeping on her couch! Oh the inhumanity! :P

Anyways thanks again :)

[Adventurer]

Everyone that has read OtOoPCs, raise your hand if you appreciate the irony of a certain scene with Roy and his dad in the library :smallbiggrin:



Raise your hand if Tom Lehrer's "Oedipus Rex" is playing through your head....

Oedipus Roy?

[hanzo66]

I can understand Roy's disturbance. I still feel a bit uncomfortable with other either telling me my mother is attractive/my sister or her wearing pigtails.

Imagining her back when she was "playing the field" is not necessarily the best experience one can have.


Even in Heaven the guy doesn't exactly get a break...

Best hope that he prepared Earplugs for the nights...:eek:

[Iberiel]

This mom stuff is absolutely hilarious!

[Snaaake]

This must be an american thing. Things don't work like that. You feel the same you feel about your sisters. You just say, "hey look how young mother used to look". You guys are creepy!

Er, and what about those of us who don't have sisters?

Anyway, while I understand how and Roy would feel awkward, i'm not personally creeped out by it, like a lot of people here seem to be.

To paraphrase: "it's just a comic, I should really just relax."

[Holammer]

DMILF, that sounds like an expression you'd expect to hear from the dorky necromancers the Clerics beat up during lunch break.

Bit of a bummer to have a family reunion in this universe tbh. Imagine where Julia is going (eventually) and Eugene isn't going anywhere.

[kierthos]

Because Belkar can't be there:

"Is your mom a hottie, smoking or otherwise?"

[Blood Reaper]

Great stuff. I bow to you.

[Ecalsneerg]

Because Belkar can't be there:

"Is your mom a hottie, smoking or otherwise?"
Amen, brother.

Alos: psionics definitely is in the OotSverse, or is their version of a fairy tale (y'know... what with all the swords and sorcery being real)

[Roderick_BR]

I think that today's comic was worth reading all these comics with only Roy in it. People that likes Roy can see more of him, and people that doesn't like him can see him get even further embarrassed. It's a win/win situation.
And, oh man... I saw it coming a mile long when I head the title... XD

[Lumenadducere]

Brilliant. Abso-freaking-lutely brilliant.

[banjo1985]

Hehe I really liked this one. Roy being embaressed by his mom looking so hot is Comedy Gold!

I'm sure Eugene will blow a gasket if he sees her :smallamused:

[Bendal]

Wow, I hope Celestia has psychologists, because Roy is going to be in need of one now that he's seen how hot (and young!) his mom looks. Especially since he's now living with her for the time being....

[shylocxs]

Dude, let me emphasize this more than anyone...


Roy's mom is HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoohooo!

Rich is making death look so good for everyone!

[chibibar]

heh... that is awkward, but VERY funny.

[Azazel]

Absolutely horrifying.
And at the same time, priceless...

Poor, poor Roy. To quote Metallica: Drain you of your sanity, face the thing that should not be...

[Blaznak]

I guess now we know where Roy's sister gets her looks...

[warmachine]

I still wanna know why Roy has his armour but not his sword. The sword was far more important to his identity than his armour. Roy played with his sword but not his armour. The sword would form part of his image and ideal self. It could be argued that swords are material, not spiritual, objects but so's armour. It could be argued that he didn't have his sword when he died but this is the afterlife where things are made for you. He's going to have trouble in the dungeon of challanging monsters without a decent weapon.

[Sylian]

I was wondering if dying young was better than dying old, and here is the answer to that. Yay! :smallbiggrin:

[maxon]

This must be an american thing. Things don't work like that. You feel the same you feel about your sisters. You just say, "hey look how young mother used to look". You guys are creepy!

Well, I'm glad you said that. You can tell more or less what the average age of the posters on this board is.

[pendell]

I'm an American, and TBH I feel the same way. Why is it surprising that a person's residual self-image isn't the old person they were when they died? My mother was quite attractive, and I never had the smallest smidgen of desire towards her. I knew she and dad were together -- and even if there wasn't, there was *just no way*. On a deep psychological level, she was completely and totally off limits. Even writing this way makes me feel kinda scuzzy.

For cryin' out loud, Julia was just as hot in life as Roy's mom is now. Yet Roy never had any problems keeping away from his sister. Why the trouble with his mom?

Respectfully,

Brian P.

[SteveMB]

But has anyone thought that since his mom still thinks of herself as a 19 year old woman that she might enjoy visiting the "bar of infinite one-night stands" (or whatever it is) and decide to bring home a guy every night.

That would be particularly amusing if Eugene ever gets in (especially since he'd be living there until he got his own place). He seems like enough of a butthead to have a double standard about it....

[Holammer]

For cryin' out loud, Julia was just as hot in life as Roy's mom is now. Yet Roy never had any problems keeping away from his sister. Why the trouble with his mom?

Brian P. (quote shortened)

Because getting it on with your mom, will have you poking out your eyeballs sooner or later.

[Caledonian]

A point that needs to be highlighted:

It's fascinating that Rich includes "dungeons with monsters *just* strong enough to challenge you" in a list of pointless indulgences, isn't it?

[Senko]

For cryin' out loud, Julia was just as hot in life as Roy's mom is now. Yet Roy never had any problems keeping away from his sister. Why the trouble with his mom?

Respectfully,

Brian P.

It seems pretty simple to me if you remember there are no photo's in this world. Roy has grown up with his baby sister so all looks aside this is how he pictures her so when he looks at her she goes into the family=no attraction file as it were. His mother on the other hand has presumably been (going by his comment) seen as grey haired and fairly old for his entire life and now all of a sudden she's a 19 year old girl that bears no resemblance to any of the memories of his mother. This would mean while he mentally know's she's his mother emotionally speaking she'd go into the pretty girl file and then that would conflict with his mental desires and make him confused.

I don't know your situation but it would as I see it be the equivilent of meeting a highly attractive (to you) member of the opposite sex and then finding out their your brother/sister who was given up for adoption at birth. The initial emotional attraction would be followed shortly afterwards by mental discomfort and it would take some time to adjust to the knowledge and put them in the emotional no attraction category.

In regards to the comics (as I just caught up) I like the tiers of enlightenment and the attractions for Roy.

[hewhosaysfish]

For cryin' out loud, Julia was just as hot in life as Roy's mom is now. Yet Roy never had any problems keeping away from his sister. Why the trouble with his mom?

Could it be because the period of time the changes took? That mental defense, that specific blind-spot, grew up as his sister did; whereas his mother has transformed "overnight" into an unrecognisable form. Maybe, I'm no head-shrinker.

PS Warmachine: Roy's residual self image (the mental projection of his digitalspiritual self) does not include his sword because he regards the sword as an entity in and of itself, not simply as an extension of himself. As for his armour... go draw a picture of yourself. Did you draw yourself wearing clothes? )

[Milandros]

This must be an american thing. Things don't work like that. You feel the same you feel about your sisters. You just say, "hey look how young mother used to look". You guys are creepy!

American? I'm about 20 miles south of central London....

It's not the photo that's a bit strange, it's the realisation that dear, sweet mother probably had just as many one-night stands, relationships, drunken revels, wild parties, hangovers, etc etc etc as the girls you know (maybe more, it was the 60's after all). It's not creepy or wierd really, it's more the acknowledgement of the general march of time, the realisation that grey hair is coming soon, the sudden oh-my-god-I'm-respectable sensation and the piercing of the self-image of yourself as a young fun crazy dude.

It's not a bad thing at all, it can just be a bit jarring to look at someone you care for and know well and realise that they weren't always Mummy, they were once "that hot chick Anna down the hall". It's the need to re-evaluate one's concept of someone you know so well that's the odd feeling.

[Megalomaniac2]

So... incredibly... wrong...

And funny. But mainly WRONG.

Love the Psion story.

The House of Horrors thread is gonna go berserk now, isn't it?

[Milandros]

BAHAHAHA!

It took me a moment to get the last panel but when I did it was hilarious.
Poor Roy has the hots for his mum.

I don't think he does, anymore than a straight guy has the hots for another guy if he gives him a hug - but many straight men do feel awkward hugging another guy (leading to the infamous "leaning-forward-so-no-naughty-bits-touch" male-male hugs).

A lot of people would feel awkward lying their heads in their hot young sister's lap too. Roy's just adapting to the whole new vision and understanding of his mother that he has, and trying to link the way she looks now with the concept of "Mum" in his mind.

[mageaeon]

Just awesome!

[dutch508]

...are we sure Roy IS in heaven and this isn't some sort of evil hell trick...


sorry about the redundancy.

[UnknownWatcher]

HAHAHA brilliant!

Poor Roy, if his guilt wasn't extreme enough he is now attracted to his mother. Worse yet, not only does he have to bring his flings back too his mother's house; Since his mother views herself as a 19 year old hottie he may see her looking for "Mr. Right Now" at the Tavern of Infinate One-Night Stands.

Poor Roy, poor poor Roy.

HAHAHA

[Faramir]

Hilarious.

I think I can, I think I can...


While I'm fundamentally opposed to rating individual comics this was a good one.

[Lord]

Hey if you guys think this is sick, I'll have you know that I knew a guy who grew up playing catch with his younger then him uncles.

[silvadel]

Roy has had his first "snap." It almost sounds like souls going to celestial are like a strip of bubble wrap and you have to pop all of the air holes before you can make it to the next level.

[Haruspex]

Poor dude. He's dead, his dad's a jerk, his sister annoys him, and his deceased mom is hotter than he expected. The perils of being an adventurer I guess.

[Bendal]

This is a lot like Back to the Future, where Michael J Fox finds himself attracted to a young woman and then discovers its his mom. What made it worse was when she wanted to make out with him....

[chibibar]

Also think about this....... If Roy is gonna have a one night stand in his mother's home... it would even be weirder now ;)

You are right about "mental defense" when we grow up. There have been stories of people getting adopted and accidentally meet their siblings later in life and have attraction for no reason they could understand. (we usually naturally love our family) So Roy is trying to built up defense that this person whom he does NOT physically recognize (and much younger since she is 19 and I don't think Roy is 19 anymore.. maybe 25? 30?) so it is a little awkward.

[Corian]

For the record, according to the urban dictionary, D traditionally stands for divorced. I'm sure Rich meant Dead, but since Eugene made it clear it's considered equivalent (that way), the double entendre is also funny.

[warmachine]

Roy's residual self image (the mental projection of his digitalspiritual self) does not include his sword because he regards the sword as an entity in and of itself, not simply as an extension of himself. As for his armour... go draw a picture of yourself. Did you draw yourself wearing clothes? )
To a warrior, a weapon is an extension of himself. A warrior must be able to act with it instinctively as if it was a natural part of him. A warrior is still a warrior without weapons but being one with your weapon can be the difference between life and death. Is this obsessive? Yep. Does this make warriors annoy other people with details of their weapon? Yep. Do such people even end up talking to their weapons? Yep. When a warrior is thinking about a battle, what will they make sure they have? You guessed it.

[Pax_Chi]

Perhaps they only allow weapons in certain areas of the Celestial Realms, such as the trainning grounds.

[chibibar]

Since it is thought and such, Roy knows that his weapon was dropped when he died. Roy didn't think about his weapon at this time because well... he is not in combat.

I'm sure when Roy decides to take up "Monsters that provide a real challenge" a weapon will appear for him.

[Ave]

Dude, let me emphasize this more than anyone...


Roy's mom is HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoohooo!

Rich is making death look so good for everyone!

Nah, i'm not sure Roy enjoys it.
And Eugene is definitely not in a good mood.
Existance after death can be good, or bad.

[nybbler]

This ain't Lawful Good Heaven. This is really Chaotic Good Heaven. I mean, a chance to break the incest taboo without hurting anyone? Seems like the essence of Chaotic Good to me. (Not to mention Chaotic Gross...). Check in the tavern and you'll probably find Shojo, with a legal-document cigar in his hand and a girl on his lap.

For the Lawful, it's a minor Hell.

[Dhemios]

Well, it really doesnt look like lawfull good heaven, but what was the point for the angel to "determinate" how much lawful and how much good he was?

Maybe pleasure its not forbidden for lawfull good people, just abusing them.

[chibibar]

The problem is that people are looking into Lawful Good alignment too strict...

What is consider good?
What is part of law?

Also think about this, maybe if a person restrict and humble oneself before heading to afterlife will be rewarded. You can do whatever you want afterward and don't have consequences (because it is set up that way) but down with the living, there are consequences of such action hence the more "strict" version of the rules.

[Arakune]

I can understand Roy's disturbance. I still feel a bit uncomfortable with other either telling me my mother is attractive/my sister or her wearing pigtails.

Imagining her back when she was "playing the field" is not necessarily the best experience one can have.


Even in Heaven the guy doesn't exactly get a break...

Best hope that he prepared Earplugs for the nights...:eek:

Owwww. Awkward for you too :smallredface:

[Itdano]

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

[Miklus]

I know it's page 7, but I still got to say: AWESOME!

I think I can, I think I can, I think I can...:smallbiggrin:

DMILF? :smalleek: So wrong...yet so funny!

[shakes019]

Yeah, I liked it.

My favourite joke from the strip was Roy's Archon: How did she know my name?

[foil_fedora]

Someone, PLEASE give an explanation of what the last four letters in the title are OTHER than what I think they are:smalleek:

Ummm... "Mom Is Like, Fifteen..."

Good thing Roy went to his Mom's house, rather than running into her in the "Tavern of Infinite One-Night-Stands".

:thog: "Thog like pretty lady"
:roy: "Back off, green boy!"

[Nighthawk4]

I just Googled MILF :redface:

[sihnfahl]

I just Googled MILF :redface:
You ... did keep SafeSearch on... right?

[Grizzt]

A) to those who goooooooooooogled MILF:
Gratz you are now flagged as a goooogler of FORBIDDEN WORDS MUHHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHA

B) The comic rocks. Rich rocks (for writing the comic that rocks)<----for the fools :)



P.S. to those who thing of Oedipus Rex:
Why not think of the REAL Oedipus? Killed his dad, married his mom but nonetheless he was a fine King:))))))

[LtPowers]

Oddly enough, when I saw "DMILF", my first thought was "Dungeon Master I'd Like to... " I mean, this is D&D, right?

Also, in strip #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html), Sara had lighter skin than Roy and Eugene; here it's the same shade. Continuity error? Or Roy's failing memory? Or just another difference between Sara's image of herself and Roy's image of her?


Powers &8^]

[chibibar]

Oddly enough, when I saw "DMILF", my first thought was "Dungeon Master I'd Like to... " I mean, this is D&D, right?

Also, in strip #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html), Sara had lighter skin than Roy and Eugene; here it's the same shade. Continuity error? Or Roy's failing memory? Or just another difference between Sara's image of herself and Roy's image of her?


Powers &8^]

I presume this is the image she wants for herself. I kinda like to think this is similar to "What Dream may come" a good movie. Kinda interesting way of thinking of the afterlife.

[STupendous]

:smallbiggrin: I liked Roy's reaction to his mom. And the last panel was good too. :smallsmile: Thanks again Rich.

[The Iron Muffin]

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the clown in panel six.

What is it doing there?

And what is it riding in, a mine cart?

I'm confused...so much so that I registered to the forums to make this post.

HALP!

[ref]

Whoa, No wonder Eugene got captivated by that beauty! I like it. Again, you've pulled it. And I mean the carpet from beneath our feet.

We were all, would we get to see Roy's mom? And we find this beauty. Amazing.

[sihnfahl]

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the clown in panel six.
Look at the cover; it's a pretty common one... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Littleenginethatcould.jpg)

[Frozen_Northman]

Fun little strip. Roy, seeing his mother as a 19-year-old hottie? While still acting like the elderly mother that he knew? That's gotta mess with his brain...

[NikkTheTrick]

:thog: "Thog like pretty lady"
:roy: "Back off, green boy!"

Look up my (and then Yeril's:smalleek: ) pictures in the House of Horors (art section of the forum). have a vat of acid ready.

[DrivinAllNight]

Only six to go for the big 500. With the great way the comic has been going I can't even begin to imagine how phenomenal the 500th strip will be. Mr. B is great.
Thank You from a very satisfied fan, I am definitely getting my moneys worth with this comic in spades ::translated-this comic rocks:: whooo hooo

[Th0rn]

Oh My GOD ... this was really brilliant :smallbiggrin:

[Oracle_Hunter]

I have to say, this is the squickiest (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.Squick) comic in the series (even above Belkar's use of Craft Disturbing Mental Image (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0244.html)!)

I'd say this should be on the examples part of the entry, but I imagine there aren't any examples listed for very good reasons :smalleek: :smalleek: :smalleek:

[Doug Lampert]

Hahahaha! :smalltongue:

Poor poor Roy. Are we SURE this isn't purgatory? :smallbiggrin:
Nah, Sara Greenhilt is enjoying herself MUCH too much for this to be anyplace but her version of heaven.

You don't seriously think there's any chance she DOESN'T know exactly what she's doing do you?

And how can Roy complain, sarky comments and giving people a hard time is his normal thing....

[factotum]

This ain't Lawful Good Heaven. This is really Chaotic Good Heaven. I mean, a chance to break the incest taboo without hurting anyone?

Eh? What makes you think that incest would be allowed from what we've seen?

[Deathwisher]

This ain't Lawful Good Heaven. This is really Chaotic Good Heaven. I mean, a chance to break the incest taboo without hurting anyone? Seems like the essence of Chaotic Good to me. (Not to mention Chaotic Gross...). Check in the tavern and you'll probably find Shojo, with a legal-document cigar in his hand and a girl on his lap.

For the Lawful, it's a minor Hell.

Well, Eugene was supposedly lawful all his life, but from OOTPC we know that he spent a lot of his time hanging out in bars, getting drunk and chatting up girls and it had no influence on his lawfulness. Clearly the OOTS societies tend to have an openminded attitude when it comes to social interaction. As to the incest taboo. Maybe that is why everybody has to live with their parents for a while before they get a place of their own. Just to make sure, that they recognize their familiy and don't make mistakes. (Being lawful, they would probably not break the taboo on purpose.)

[Forealms]

Excellent comic, Giant, I love the Little Psion That Could. Awesomeness!

[nybbler]

#113 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html), Sara had lighter skin than Roy and Eugene; here it's the same shade. Continuity error? Or Roy's failing memory?

Suntan from all the lantern archons floating around? :-)

[eilandesq]

Roy's next words:

"DURKON!!! GET ME THE [BLEEP] OUT OF HERE--NOW!!!"

[CelestialStick]

I just read the last six or so strips, and I must say that I haven't laughed so hard in months if not longer. I don't mean that I haven't laughed so hard at OotS; I mean I haven't laughed so hard period. These last half-dozen or so strips with Roy in the Seven Heavens are just awesome. I can't even begin to mention all the parts that made me laugh out loud, but I will say that at one point I was laughing so hard I started to choke. Now that's humor!

So I'll just sing my way out of here now...


It's the eye of the pig
It's the thrill of the fight...

Um, wait... :smallwink:

[Orzel]

Roy's mom looks like my current gf

brown skin
pigtails
green top
blue, black, or tan bottom
gold earrings

I guess in OoTS Celestia, I'd be forever 21.

[Moff Chumley]

The Little Psion that could... now that is just awsome.

[Mad Scientist]

Wow, Roy's mom is hot. How did she end up with Roy's dad?!

[JasonDoomsblade]

Love the comic.
Although it would be INCREDIBLY awkward if your mom looked younger than you did.

[xyzchyx]

Wow, Roy's mom is hot. How did she end up with Roy's dad?!It's a biological thing. Conventionally, men always marry "up", while women marry "down", in terms of physical attractiveness. This is because biologically, men tend to seek out more attractive mating partners, in order to produce young that are attractive in turn, and will have a good chance to continue his genetic line, whereas women, again from a biological standpoint, tend to seek out men who are likely to be good protectors and providers, and the possibility that a more attractive male could get tired of being with a less attractive female and leave her for a more attractive mate causes women to subconsciously choose men "beneath" their own level of attractiveness to minimize that danger.

Note that this is a general tendency only, and it does not take into consideration many other factors that could affect it such as social environments or upbringing. It is, however, most evident when comparing people of similar standings, that there is a tendency among men to marry more attractive women and a tendency among women to marry less attractive men.

[Quirinus_Obsidian]

Rich, I hope you read the posts, because I just have to give you a box of 'you win' cookies for this comic. I was having the most absolutey aggressively horrid day; and when I come home and read the pure awesome gel that is #494 ; it all just went away. Thank you!!! :biggrin:

[Porthos]

Wow, Roy's mom is hot. How did she end up with Roy's dad?!

Start of Darkness answers this question. :smallbiggrin:

[Baywolfe]

OOTS comes up as my home page, so I don't usually look at the Episode Title until later. When I finally looked and saw DMILF, I paused, thought about it, and busted out laughing.

Scared the crap out of one of the cats that was milling around the room.

[Bitzeralisis]

The Little Psion That Could — a true D&D parody indeed. :smallbiggrin:

[Caledonian]

Interesting thought - we know Roy has climbed above the level of the mountain dedicated to helping people overcome their appetites.

But now Roy's mother is saying things like "this is the real me", and that isn't actually the case - the nineteen-year-old body has nothing more to do with what she is as a person as the body she had when she died. She's a soul, not a form.

Roy is obviously uncomfortable with interacting with a younger, sexier mother. Perhaps this level of the mountain is intended to help people realize that appearances aren't particularly important? Roy's mother wouldn't have progressed beyond that stage because she's so tickled at looking young again.

[ss49]

I'm reminded of Marty McFly when his unknowing mother came on to him.

[Lira]

Also, in strip #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html), Sara had lighter skin than Roy and Eugene; here it's the same shade. Continuity error? Or Roy's failing memory? Or just another difference between Sara's image of herself and Roy's image of her?None really. The colour difference is basically explained in NcftPB:
(It's not really a spoiler but it's from the book so whatever :P)Rich says that when he got the proofs back for the first OOTS book, some of the colours looked bad. Like Roy's skin was too dark. So when Rich upgraded the art in this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0198.html), he changed Roy's skin to make it look better in the print form. That's why he and Sara have the same skin colour now, but not before. Read No Cure, it explains better than I can :P.
Although I've already commented in this thread on the comic, I'd like to say once more that it's excellent. It's definitely one of the best strips to date. And I'm thrilled that there's now a definite three times a week update (and if one is missed, we'll get another one later). Thanks Rich. :D

[Lord]

Whats even creepier is that Roy is twenty eight, so he actaully looks older then his mom.

[NoDot]

I don't know your situation but it would as I see it be the equivilent of meeting a highly attractive (to you) member of the opposite sex and then finding out their your brother/sister who was given up for adoption at birth. The initial emotional attraction would be followed shortly afterwards by mental discomfort and it would take some time to adjust to the knowledge and put them in the emotional no attraction category.Or... not (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrotherSisterIncest)...

[Nightfall]

It's a biological thing. Conventionally, men always marry "up", while women marry "down", in terms of physical attractiveness. This is because biologically, men tend to seek out more attractive mating partners, in order to produce young that are attractive in turn, and will have a good chance to continue his genetic line, whereas women, again from a biological standpoint, tend to seek out men who are likely to be good protectors and providers, and the possibility that a more attractive male could get tired of being with a less attractive female and leave her for a more attractive mate causes women to subconsciously choose men "beneath" their own level of attractiveness to minimize that danger.

Note that this is a general tendency only, and it does not take into consideration many other factors that could affect it such as social environments or upbringing. It is, however, most evident when comparing people of similar standings, that there is a tendency among men to marry more attractive women and a tendency among women to marry less attractive men.

So, at some point, wouldn't the two factions cancel each other out? If men are only marrying attractive women, but the attractive women are only marrying less-than-hot men, SOMEbody SOMEwhere isn't hooking up. :smallwink: :smallbiggrin:

Another great comic, Giant! I'm so glad to know that in the afterlife I'll look as I've always imagined myself to look. Perhaps that's why it's such a shock everytime I see myself in the mirror. :smalleek:

[xyzchyx]

So, at some point, wouldn't the two factions cancel each other out? If men are only marrying attractive women, but the attractive women are only marrying less-than-hot men, SOMEbody SOMEwhere isn't hooking up. :smallwink: :smallbiggrin: That's correct... but because these people are not typically breeding (or breeding in limited numbers), the physical traits that others do not find desirable do not get passed on as quickly as other traits, so the impact on human race survivability is minimized.

[Baywolfe]

I'm reminded of Marty McFly when his unknowing mother came on to him.

Except that, this time, his mother knows quite well who he is. So any lust is on the other, uh, shoe.

[malagigi]

I have to say, "The Little Psion That Could" is probably the most clever thing I've read all day.
:)

[Aeriander]

Hilarious!

[Ramebriz]

ok... talking about belkar
if someday you will get bored of heaven that means you get bored of pleasure...right?

so if somene (like belkar) goes to hell... does he will get bored? or at least won't care about the pain anymore? where does he go? deaper so he get more pain or what?

[bdh5533]

Funny, I'm not quite sure what the MILF part means, myself... >_>

Dead Mom I'd Like to *ahem*

[fractal]

So, at some point, wouldn't the two factions cancel each other out? If men are only marrying attractive women, but the attractive women are only marrying less-than-hot men, SOMEbody SOMEwhere isn't hooking up. :smallwink: :smallbiggrin:
And those unmarried people are the attractive men and unattractive women. The attractive men presumably implement the "ideal" male reproductive strategy (as many partners as possible), while the unattractive women fail to implement the "ideal" female strategy (monogamous marriage).

Alternatively, all you really need is a theory that there are more attractive women around than men (which might be an effect of women working harder at it).

On a different topic, perhaps one's "dead" form still has the appropriate stat bonuses/penalties for age? If so, then Eugene Greenhilt is probably just unwilling to give up that Int bonus.

[Alex Kidd]

To all those people arguing really weird things about Roy's discomfort with his hot mum, I'm pretty sure there's a simple and considerably less skeevy explanation behind it.

He didn't know who she was at first, his first reaction on seeing her was probably checking her out. And now he can't get the memory of mentally undressing his mother out of his head.

[factotum]

Perhaps this level of the mountain is intended to help people realize that appearances aren't particularly important? Roy's mother wouldn't have progressed beyond that stage because she's so tickled at looking young again.

I think it's more likely she wouldn't have progressed beyond that part of the mountain (assuming your theory is correct) because she's only been there 3 years, which is hardly a long time even in life, much less when you're dead!

[Antina]

Hmm - Sara Greenhilt seems not to be unhappy to be "dead".

Since it has been only 3 years since she died and she has obviously forgotten to think about the living - since she´s looking like she is...

[Kami2awa]

This must be an american thing. Things don't work like that. You feel the same you feel about your sisters. You just say, "hey look how young mother used to look". You guys are creepy!

True; I find it quite fascinating to think about my parents past; they both led amazing lives.

[teratorn]

True; I find it quite fascinating to think about my parents past; they both led amazing lives.
When I read the strip, the joke for me was on the fact that Roy is much more uptight than his mother. In many aspects he is a bit more like his father. And it's also funny that she, who looks older than him, thinks of him like a little boy.

The thing that occurred to me is that his mother looks a lot like a smarter version of Elan (how did she end LG by the way?). We have here a free spirit vs the straight man. I still think that the potential for jokes is there, and not in any kind of odd feeling Roy is going to have towards his mother, how misleading the tittle may sound.

[Connor Darkdart]

my first thought was "how disturbing to see your moma with a rack" Second thought was "why did dad ever break up with her":smallbiggrin:

[SteveMB]

my first thought was "how disturbing to see your moma with a rack" Second thought was "why did dad ever break up with her":smallbiggrin:

As far as we know, he stayed with her as long as they were alive. Afterwards, she got into Celestia and he didn't.

[Valley]

:roy: No, that's.....no thanks, Mom.


Funniest line ever.

I don't mind being my head in her lap. :smallamused:

[The Iron Muffin]

Look at the cover; it's a pretty common one... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Littleenginethatcould.jpg)

Ah, OK.

I must have subconsciously blocked that memory out...clowns scare me.