bean illus
2019-10-07, 03:34 PM
I was looking for ways to get more feats on a facto and got distracted on a 'facto prc' thread. I noticed shadowdancer, and thought hips on facto.
Of course ShD has a 3 feat tax, so screwed on facto, and still need extra feats.
This is what I got so far (open to all suggestions). This is from someone who thinks T2 is 'too strong'.
1 ... open, foi 1
3 Facto 3 ... foi 2
4 Monk 1 invisible fist? martial monk?
...combat expertise
5 Facto 4
6 ... foi 3
7 Facto 6
8 Uncanny Trickster 2 (facto +1, monk +1
... dodge
9 Facto 7 ... mobility
10 Shadowdancer 1
11 Uncanny Trickster 3 (facto +1
(facto8/monk2/shadowdancer1
12 ... knowledge devotion
14 Facto 11 (fact9(11/mnk1(2/shada1/ut3
15-20 = 6 levels, 3 foi, 3 open feats
Not many firm ideas after that. Maybe 1 level of mindbender, and then warblade?
Or go shopping for dips?
Mindbender
Exemplar
Swordsage
Chameleon 2
Swiftblade
Idk
1 Rogue, martial 1
... able learner, combat expertise, dodge
3 Facto 2 ... foi 1
6 Facto 5 ... foi 2
7 Facto 6
8 Uncanny Trickster 2 (facto +2
9 ... mobility
10 Shadowdancer 1
(facto8/rogue1/shadowdancer1
11 Uncanny Trickster 3 (facto +1
12 ... foi 3
13 Facto 11 (fact8(11)/rog1/shadanc1/ut3
14-20 Chameleon 7 ... 3 foi, 2 open feats, and 1 floating feat.
Cham 7 grants double aptitude at 5th level spell, and ability boon +4.
What I like about both builds is cunning breach at facto 11, and HiPS, as well as uncanny trickster goodness.
First I'd ask, is there anything wrong with the builds. Then suggestions on classes/prcs for the monk version (which falls short of the seven levels needed for chameleon). Then advice on feats, etc.
Of course ShD has a 3 feat tax, so screwed on facto, and still need extra feats.
This is what I got so far (open to all suggestions). This is from someone who thinks T2 is 'too strong'.
1 ... open, foi 1
3 Facto 3 ... foi 2
4 Monk 1 invisible fist? martial monk?
...combat expertise
5 Facto 4
6 ... foi 3
7 Facto 6
8 Uncanny Trickster 2 (facto +1, monk +1
... dodge
9 Facto 7 ... mobility
10 Shadowdancer 1
11 Uncanny Trickster 3 (facto +1
(facto8/monk2/shadowdancer1
12 ... knowledge devotion
14 Facto 11 (fact9(11/mnk1(2/shada1/ut3
15-20 = 6 levels, 3 foi, 3 open feats
Not many firm ideas after that. Maybe 1 level of mindbender, and then warblade?
Or go shopping for dips?
Mindbender
Exemplar
Swordsage
Chameleon 2
Swiftblade
Idk
1 Rogue, martial 1
... able learner, combat expertise, dodge
3 Facto 2 ... foi 1
6 Facto 5 ... foi 2
7 Facto 6
8 Uncanny Trickster 2 (facto +2
9 ... mobility
10 Shadowdancer 1
(facto8/rogue1/shadowdancer1
11 Uncanny Trickster 3 (facto +1
12 ... foi 3
13 Facto 11 (fact8(11)/rog1/shadanc1/ut3
14-20 Chameleon 7 ... 3 foi, 2 open feats, and 1 floating feat.
Cham 7 grants double aptitude at 5th level spell, and ability boon +4.
What I like about both builds is cunning breach at facto 11, and HiPS, as well as uncanny trickster goodness.
First I'd ask, is there anything wrong with the builds. Then suggestions on classes/prcs for the monk version (which falls short of the seven levels needed for chameleon). Then advice on feats, etc.