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2019-12-15, 09:45 AM
Let me start off by apologizing for posting in the wrong forum or subforum, or using the wrong terminology - I'm a n00b!
The variant rules on Bloodlines feature bloodlines, some detailed as Minor/Intermediate/Major, others as only Minor/Intermediate and some as only Minor. The page do state general guidelines for how to create your own custom bloodline, so I gave expanding the Doppelganger bloodline a go. I based it off the existing Minor bloodline and the Doppelganger racial stats.
Bloodline rules:
d20srd DOT org/srd/variant/races/bloodlines.htm
Doppelganger stats:
d20srd DOT org/srd/monsters/doppelganger.htm
Character level
Minor
Intermediate
Major
1st
-
-
+2 on Disguise checks
2nd
-
+2 on Disguise checks
Alter self 1/day (Sp)
3rd
-
-
Charisma +1
4th
+2 on Disguise checks
Alter self 1/day (Sp)
Detect thoughts 1/day (Sp)
5th
-
-
Doppelganger affinity +2
6th
-
Charisma +1
Dodge
7th
-
+2 on Bluff checks
8th
Alter self 1/day (Sp)
Detect thoughts 1/day (Sp)
Low-light vision
9th
-
-
Wisdom +1
10th
-
Doppelganger affinity +2
+1 to natural armor
11th
-
-
Doppelganger affinity +4
12th
Charisma +1
Dodge
Great Fortitude
13th
-
-
+2 on Sense Motive checks
14th
-
+2 on Bluff checks
Alter self +1/day (Sp)
15th
-
-
Intelligence +1
16th
Detect thoughts 1/day (Sp)
Low-light vision
Detect thoughts +1/day (Sp)
17th
-
-
Doppelganger affinity +6
18th
-
Wisdom +1
+1 to natural armor
19th
-
-
+2 on Listen checks
20th
Doppelganger affinity +2
+1 to natural armor
Immunity to sleep and charm effects
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions for improvements? I've tried to keep it in line with existing bloodlines and avoid powergaming in favour of flavour. Are bloodlines in their entirety just to OP for this to be worth discussing at all?
The final Immunity seems a bit strong, in particular, but I noted that the official Dragon major bloodlines include immunities (to fire, cold, etc), so including the Doppelgangers' weaker (I think?) Immunity felt natural enough. :smallredface:
The variant rules on Bloodlines feature bloodlines, some detailed as Minor/Intermediate/Major, others as only Minor/Intermediate and some as only Minor. The page do state general guidelines for how to create your own custom bloodline, so I gave expanding the Doppelganger bloodline a go. I based it off the existing Minor bloodline and the Doppelganger racial stats.
Bloodline rules:
d20srd DOT org/srd/variant/races/bloodlines.htm
Doppelganger stats:
d20srd DOT org/srd/monsters/doppelganger.htm
Character level
Minor
Intermediate
Major
1st
-
-
+2 on Disguise checks
2nd
-
+2 on Disguise checks
Alter self 1/day (Sp)
3rd
-
-
Charisma +1
4th
+2 on Disguise checks
Alter self 1/day (Sp)
Detect thoughts 1/day (Sp)
5th
-
-
Doppelganger affinity +2
6th
-
Charisma +1
Dodge
7th
-
+2 on Bluff checks
8th
Alter self 1/day (Sp)
Detect thoughts 1/day (Sp)
Low-light vision
9th
-
-
Wisdom +1
10th
-
Doppelganger affinity +2
+1 to natural armor
11th
-
-
Doppelganger affinity +4
12th
Charisma +1
Dodge
Great Fortitude
13th
-
-
+2 on Sense Motive checks
14th
-
+2 on Bluff checks
Alter self +1/day (Sp)
15th
-
-
Intelligence +1
16th
Detect thoughts 1/day (Sp)
Low-light vision
Detect thoughts +1/day (Sp)
17th
-
-
Doppelganger affinity +6
18th
-
Wisdom +1
+1 to natural armor
19th
-
-
+2 on Listen checks
20th
Doppelganger affinity +2
+1 to natural armor
Immunity to sleep and charm effects
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions for improvements? I've tried to keep it in line with existing bloodlines and avoid powergaming in favour of flavour. Are bloodlines in their entirety just to OP for this to be worth discussing at all?
The final Immunity seems a bit strong, in particular, but I noted that the official Dragon major bloodlines include immunities (to fire, cold, etc), so including the Doppelgangers' weaker (I think?) Immunity felt natural enough. :smallredface: