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schreier
2020-03-21, 09:48 PM
The Banner of Storm's Eye, as part of the rules text, says "As long as it is held aloft, the banner automatically suppresses (but does not dispel) fear effects on all creatures within 20 feet."

Craven, as part of the text, says as a prerequisite - "cannot be immune to fear"

Suppressed seems different than immune, so I think it would be ok - but wanted to see what other people thought. If this would allow craven to work while not having a risk of fear, is there a way to gain the other benefits of mind blank ( protected from all devices and spells that detect, influence, or read emotions or thoughts. This spell protects against all mind-affecting spells and effects as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects. Mind blank even foils limited wish, miracle, and wish spells when they are used in such a way as to affect the subject’s mind or to gain information about it. In the case of scrying that scans an area the creature is in, such as arcane eye, the spell works but the creature simply isn’t detected. Scrying attempts that are targeted specifically at the subject do not work at all.) while being "not immune to fear?"

Rebel7284
2020-03-21, 09:59 PM
RAW Craven clearly works with both of those effects since neither actually make you immune to fear. Indeed with the Banner of Storm's eye, you can explicitly be affected by a fear effect, just the effect is suppressed. With mind blank, it wouldn't protect you from a fear effect that wasn't mind affecting. Luckily, all of them are.

You may still want to double check with your DM just in case before spending all that gold on the item in case it works differently in your games.