Can you overrun a creature and charge another in the same round?

[Gamezdude]

Can you overrun a creature and charge another in the same round?

For example
A Human is mounted on a horse and decides to charge the furthest NPC (Referred to as 'NPC B') gaining a +2 to his attack for the charge. While doing this, he successfully Overruns the nearest NPC (Referred to as 'NPC A') knocking him prone.

Is this possible?

Or is it a case of I can only Charge and Overrun NPC A and that is it for the turn?

[Gruftzwerg]

Can you overrun a creature and charge another in the same round?

For example
A Human is mounted on a horse and decides to charge the furthest NPC (Referred to as 'NPC B') gaining a +2 to his attack for the charge. While doing this, he successfully Overruns the nearest NPC (Referred to as 'NPC A') knocking him prone.

Is this possible?

Or is it a case of I can only Charge and Overrun NPC A and that is it for the turn?

A bit complicated but I'll give it a try..
It's about action economy and thus has different outcomes for unmouted and mounted attempts.
Let's solve both scenarios:

without a mount:
Overrun costs a standard action while using your move action if your enemy doesn't avoid you. So if he blocks, you wouldn't have the actions left to charge unless you get some extra actions (e.g. Belt of Battle iirc). If he doges, you are free to charge.

with a mount:
Your mount has its own actions. Your mount can overrun a single enemy (and thus your mount makes the check) and move up to the target you want to charge. If you have the trample feat, your mount may also make a hoof attack against the enemy he did overrun (and the target may not avoid the overrun attempt).

[Psyren]

Pathfinder has the Charge Through (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/charge-through-combat/) feat that lets you do this. You can only overrun one creature per charge (to another creature).

[Kayblis]

It all comes down to what you declare in the start of the round. If you want to charge creature A, but creature B is in the way blocking it, you can't declare a charge on creature A. If creature B is not completely blocking the path(so you have a straight line to A), you can charge and will probably take an attack of opportunity from creature B as you run past it. You can't do anything to creature B, because you're mid-charge.

If you can't declare the charge, it makes no sense to overrun someone mid-path of the charge you can't make.

[Seto]

Pathfinder has the Charge Through (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/charge-through-combat/) feat that lets you do this. You can only overrun one creature per charge (to another creature).

It's 3rd party, but if you wanna just overrun everyone, Barreling Overrun (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/3rd-party-feats/kobold-press/combat-feats-3rd-party-kobold-press/barreling-overrun-combat/) is pretty fun too. By RAW they shouldn't stack (barreling overrun says nothing about a charge, and shouldn't override the "one creature" clause of Charge Through), but as a DM, I would let them. It's just visually too good to forbid.

[Rebel7284]

Streetfighter Barbarian 19 can sort of do this. Bonus points if you can convince your DM that tripping your opponent (perhaps with Wolf-Totem Barbarian to get Improved Trip for free) counts as dropping. :smallbiggrin:


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