Sherlockpwns
2020-04-21, 06:12 PM
Er... yeah that title is a thing.
So here's the setup.
A Moon Druid 6, Monk (any) 5.
Shift into a giant elk. Move 20 ft. Hit with charge attack. Elk-Monk declare stunning strike.
Does the save vs. knockdown happen first or second? Because if the monk stuns first, the knockdown is automatic (auto fail vs. str and dex saves). It is, essentially, WAY more than doubling the chance of knocking prone (since the save vs. knockdown is DC13 and the monk DC is something like 16, and the creature has to make 2 saves).
Of course this is all to set up the old fashion Elk Curb Stomp that happens afterwards. If the stun lands it's basically 3 stomp attacks.
Anyway, any RAW sources for order of operations between special attacks and declared actions? Not looking for opinions, just any places in the books where it may mention this type of interaction either as intended or written.
So here's the setup.
A Moon Druid 6, Monk (any) 5.
Shift into a giant elk. Move 20 ft. Hit with charge attack. Elk-Monk declare stunning strike.
Does the save vs. knockdown happen first or second? Because if the monk stuns first, the knockdown is automatic (auto fail vs. str and dex saves). It is, essentially, WAY more than doubling the chance of knocking prone (since the save vs. knockdown is DC13 and the monk DC is something like 16, and the creature has to make 2 saves).
Of course this is all to set up the old fashion Elk Curb Stomp that happens afterwards. If the stun lands it's basically 3 stomp attacks.
Anyway, any RAW sources for order of operations between special attacks and declared actions? Not looking for opinions, just any places in the books where it may mention this type of interaction either as intended or written.