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Noxangelo
2020-04-27, 06:48 AM
so i was browsing some magic items and a few caught my eye. i was hoping to get some help with the item creation rules to combine and modify them, cause i don't understand them very well. the items are:

1. the MoF bag of boulders (300gp each) &

2. the HoB self-launching stone (500gp each)

i would like to combine them so that i have a bag of pebbles that launch themselves and turn into boulders mid filght.

i would also like to make it an unlimited item. i'm thinking of something like the WC3 blood mage with his floating orbs that he launched at his enemies.

so i divide both prices by 50 (for 6gp & 10gp) then multiply by 2000 (for 12000gp and 20000gp) divide boulder by 2 (6000gp) then multiply by 1.5 (9000gp) and multiply 20000 by 4 (80000gp) then add for 89000gp.

that seem a bit much for 3d6 dmg per round. your thoughts?

also if i want to make it adamantine at +100gp/lb for a 30lb stone would be 3000gp multipled by 50 stones for 150000gp yes?

and making it starburst (+2) would just be the cost of a +3 weapon (18000gp)?

all for a whopping 257000gp :smallannoyed:

is this correct? what do you guys think about the cost?

Him
2020-04-27, 07:11 AM
https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=74603
My first thought was to just give the boulder a coat of adamatium/adamantite. Then I remembered a story which is lead to a wiki search on the above subject.

But atleast coating would keep down costs.

Up to your DM though.

Noxangelo
2020-04-27, 08:49 AM
Up to your DM though.

that would be me, and its for an NPC, i just don't like DM fiat if i can avoid it. which may not be possible :smallmad:

because that price looks way to high for what it does, incidentally, more helpful pricing advice would be welcome.

InvisibleBison
2020-04-27, 09:21 AM
what do you guys think about the cost?

When making custom magic items, you should compare the cost to similar items. In this case, the most similar item I can think of is the glove of infinite javelins, from the Magic Item Compendium, which lets you produce a +1 javelin as a free action and which costs 7000 gp. This suggests that creating a weapon as a free action costs 5000 gp. A +1 starburst adamantine 30-lb boulder costs 21000 gp, so I'd say your proposed item would cost 26000 gp.

Noxangelo
2020-04-27, 09:52 AM
When making custom magic items, you should compare the cost to similar items. In this case, the most similar item I can think of is the glove of infinite javelins, from the Magic Item Compendium, which lets you produce a +1 javelin as a free action and which costs 7000 gp. This suggests that creating a weapon as a free action costs 5000 gp. A +1 starburst adamantine 30-lb boulder costs 21000 gp, so I'd say your proposed item would cost 26000 gp.

actually, thats pretty good, this would be a standard action and i don't think it benefits from feats and class abilities. so it should balance out.

Him
2020-04-27, 12:03 PM
Hrm, acceptable if the boulder disappearing after connecting is fine, but I won't change my prices :p

Noxangelo
2020-04-27, 09:09 PM
Hrm, acceptable if the boulder disappearing after connecting is fine, but I won't change my prices :p

lol, with starburst it will be very thoroughly disappeared.

Edit:

wacky idea: instead of adamantine, use voidstone . . .

el minster
2020-05-15, 08:03 PM
Maybe just shrink a catapult and boulders?