Feat Rogue and fighter feats

[Abemad]

Does anyone know wether or not levels in feat rogue qualifies you for fighter only feats? It doesnt seem that OP to me and gaining fighter bonus feats without access to fighter only feats seems silly...

[ExLibrisMortis]

I don't think that feat rogues meet fighter level prerequisites, but there's lots of reasons to houserule that they do. In fact, you're more than welcome to simply remove fighter level prerequisites altogether (to be replaced with bab requirements if absolutely necessary).

[Psyren]

They get the "Bonus feats" class feature from the Fighter, which means they pull from the "fighter bonus feats" list. However, that feature does specify that they must still meet the prerequisites. So any fighter feat that requires actual Fighter levels, like Weapon Specialization, would be off-limits, but feats that don't (like Blind-Fight) would be fair game.

That's the RAW, but personally I'd have no issue letting them treat their rogue levels like Fighter levels for the sake of meeting these prereqs.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

What you do is get Assassin's Stance, dip Swashbuckler, and take Daring Outlaw. This gives you sneak attack for your Swashbuckler plus Feat Rogue levels as though you had an equal number of normal Rogue levels, plus Assassin's Stance on top of that.

[liquidformat]

What you do is get Assassin's Stance, dip Swashbuckler, and take Daring Outlaw. This gives you sneak attack for your Swashbuckler plus Feat Rogue levels as though you had an equal number of normal Rogue levels, plus Assassin's Stance on top of that.

Ignore him this doesn't work without being very high level, you need 6 initiator levels to get Assassin's Stance which puts you at level 12 without a swordsage dip or level 9 with two level dip and you need +2d6 SA to take Daring Outlaw which means you really suck until maybe level 12-15...

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Ignore him this doesn't work without being very high level, you need 6 initiator levels to get Assassin's Stance which puts you at level 12 without a swordsage dip or level 9 with two level dip and you need +2d6 SA to take Daring Outlaw which means you really suck until maybe level 12-15...

You need an initiator level of 5 to get a 3rd level stance. You can take the Martial Stance feat at level 10+ with a feat rogue bonus feat, and take Daring Outlaw at 12. Or you can take two levels of Swordsage, with the second level at your 8th character level, to get Assassin's Stance, and take Daring Outlaw at 9th level.

You only need Swashbuckler 2, but if you have a decent Int bonus you may as well get 4 because with that and 16 Feat Rogue your BAB is +16 at 20th. You'll have plenty of bonus feats for Martial Study/Stance with Feat Rogue anyway, you may as well include Swashbuckler 2 (it's just as many bonus feats as two more Feat Rogue levels) and have 8d6 sneak attack at 12th level and continue increasing beyond that.

[liquidformat]

You need an initiator level of 5 to get a 3rd level stance. You can take the Martial Stance feat at level 10+ with a feat rogue bonus feat, and take Daring Outlaw at 12. Or you can take two levels of Swordsage, with the second level at your 8th character level, to get Assassin's Stance, and take Daring Outlaw at 9th level.

You only need Swashbuckler 2, but if you have a decent Int bonus you may as well get 4 because with that and 16 Feat Rogue your BAB is +16 at 20th. You'll have plenty of bonus feats for Martial Study/Stance with Feat Rogue anyway, you may as well include Swashbuckler 2 (it's just as many bonus feats as two more Feat Rogue levels) and have 8d6 sneak attack at 12th level and continue increasing beyond that.

You're still quite underpowered up until somewhere between level 9-12 and will struggle being useful in combat. It is a great build if you are starting at a level where you have both feats already but that is 9 to 12 levels of suck if you are starting at say level 1.

[Troacctid]

What you do is get Assassin's Stance, dip Swashbuckler, and take Daring Outlaw. This gives you sneak attack for your Swashbuckler plus Feat Rogue levels as though you had an equal number of normal Rogue levels, plus Assassin's Stance on top of that.
I think you're mixing up Daring Outlaw with Daring Warrior. (Also, this trick doesn't work.)