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newguydude1
2020-06-11, 11:25 PM
scroll of wish. 5000xp. craft xp is 153xp. total 5153xp.

1. if i use a wish to create a scroll of wish, will it cost 5000+5306xp, or 5000+10306xp? does the spell xp cost get doubled?
2. if i use craft reserve to create a scroll of wish, can i use craft reserve for all 5153xp or just 153xp?
3. if i use ambrosia to create a scroll of wish, can i use ambrosia for all 5153xp or just 153xp?
4. if i use that sacrifice craft thing from boed, can i use it for all 5153xp or just 153xp?
5. if i use magical artisan to create scroll of wish, you pay only 75% of "normal cost" (pgtf version since that was is 3.5). is the 5000xp also reduced?

Doctor Despair
2020-06-11, 11:55 PM
Not sure of the math for that crafting, but of note, Dweomerkeepers can cast wish for free with Supernatural Spell if you're just looking for a way to bypass the xp cost.

newguydude1
2020-06-13, 02:09 AM
Not sure of the math for that crafting, but of note, Dweomerkeepers can cast wish for free with Supernatural Spell if you're just looking for a way to bypass the xp cost.

im not looking for free wishes. wish is just an example. theres a lot of xp spells i want to cast and i need to know how spell xp cost interacts with crafting xp cost for these things.

if i wanted free wishes i go the zodar route instead of dweomer keeper.

magicalmagicman
2020-06-14, 04:41 AM
scroll of wish. 5000xp. craft xp is 153xp. total 5153xp.

1. if i use a wish to create a scroll of wish, will it cost 5000+5306xp, or 5000+10306xp? does the spell xp cost get doubled?
2. if i use craft reserve to create a scroll of wish, can i use craft reserve for all 5153xp or just 153xp?
3. if i use ambrosia to create a scroll of wish, can i use ambrosia for all 5153xp or just 153xp?
4. if i use that sacrifice craft thing from boed, can i use it for all 5153xp or just 153xp?
5. if i use magical artisan to create scroll of wish, you pay only 75% of "normal cost" (pgtf version since that was is 3.5). is the 5000xp also reduced?


The cost to create these items is the magic supplies cost and the base XP cost (both determined by the base price) plus the costs for the components. Descriptions of these items include an entry that gives the total cost of creating the item.

It seems magic items have only 1 variable: cost to create. It doesn't keep track of xp cost of spell component and xp cost of crafting. This is especially apparent in the official magic item entries that do use spells with xp components. It just says "cost to create".

So....
1. It would cost 5000+10306xp
2. Yes you can use all 5153
3. "Good spellcasters can use ambrosia in magic item creation. Each dose provides the equivalent of 2 experience points needed to create the item. A dose of ambrosia can also be used as an optional spell component (see Chapter 3)."
An Artificer is not a spellcaster.
4. Don't know
5. You would pay only 75% so 3865xp. I did not know this until now. This is interesting....