Sermil and the Banter of Randomness: Random Banter #228

[Sermil]

In this episode: strange posts are made! Odd foods are discussed! Awful jokes are told!

All this, and more, in.....
RANDOM BANTER #228

Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)
Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
var Lord_Magtok = Random(Banter*62) + Surrogate (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801)
Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Eldpollard's RB #77 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
Random Banter #79 In Loving Memory of Hexa_Regina (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40909)
Zeratul's random banter #80 of throwing puppies off bridges (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41778)
Vespe's Random Banter #81 of singing dolphins and mostly harmless planets. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43254)
CSK's Giant in the Playground Forums Addicted Anonymous, Random Banter #82 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44919)
Iames's Ramblingly Erratic Belldandy-Charged Random Banter #83 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47592)
Serpentine's Scintillating Sensually and Sinuously Seductive Stochastic Satire #84 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49048)
Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them... (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50658)
Moon Called's Random Banter #86 of Sexy Anime Boys and Fangirl Squeals (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51825)
Lilly's Lovely Random Banter #87 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52783)
FdL's Fuzzbox-Fueled Random Banter #88 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612)
SweetRein's Sugary Restrained Random Banter #89 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59668)
Midnight's Mutant Motorcycle Madness Random Banter #90 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62430)
Em's Extremely Extraordinarily Epic Random Banter #91 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65645)
Dragonrider's Random Banter in Conjunction with the Weighted Cube #92 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67629)
Bushranger's Bodaciously Buffed Random Banter-y Rooster #93 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69425)
Haruki's Historically Hilarious Honey-covered Random Banter #94 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71161)
North's Maple Syrup Flavored Non-Alliterative Random Banter #95 Eh? (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73464)
Wadledo's Weirdly Warbling Watercress Watching Washing Machine Only Random Banter #96 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75946)
SMEE's Random Banter #97 of gender bending and closet bursting (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78694)
Raiser's Rambunctiously Rambling Random Banter #98 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626)
Dr. Bath's Random Banter, dripping with daring deeds of dastardly deipnosophists #99 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84068)
VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84914)
Jack Squat's Justlessly Juxtaposed Random Banter #101 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87577)
Dallas-Dakota's Dundering Dandelion's Devilish Damsel's Distress Random Banter #102 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4790602#post4790602)
Destro Yersul's Dangerously Distracting and Doubtlessly Disturbing Random Banter #103 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4903962#post4903962)
Aziraphales Actually Alliterative and Awesomely Affluent Random Banter #104 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92718)
Cristo's Consistently Confusing and Constantly Casual Random Banter #105 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94491)
Dish's Delightfully Deranged and Deliciously Deliquent Random Banter # 106 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905)
Slayer's Seemingly Sweet and Socially Silly Random Banter # 107 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97703)
Zero's ambrosial and aberrantly adventitious, abstemiously erudite Random Banter #108 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99100)
Coplantor's Completely Creative Cautious and Contemplative Random Banter #109 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100414)
Rutskarn's Roly-Poly Rebellious and Rejected Random Banter #110 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101156)
TwoBitWriter's Tubular Tracts of Thought-Talking Random Banter #111 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5600540#post5600540)
Phase's Phully Phormed, Phalangeal, and Phantasmagorical Random Banter #112 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101988)
Wolfbane's Wonderfully Wacky and Wildly Wandom Random Banter #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102865)
The Kiwi's Kinkily Knotted and Kookily Kickass Random Banter #114 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103674)
Jude's Judgmental Jugular Jab and Jibber Jabbery Random Banter #115 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104480)
The Throne of Thufir's Thoroughly Theoretical and Therapeutic Random Banter #116 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105584)
Random Banter #117 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106698)
Dragonprime's Dynamically Dangerous Dextrous and Destructive Random Banter #118 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107882)
Farmer Felix's Fantastic FRandom FBanter #119 (may contain traces of fnuts) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109007)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part one) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110963&page=50)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part two) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113197)
Mrmud's Mixed-Up and Minimally Mechanized Random Banter #121 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114623)
Dogmantra's Dastardly, Despotic and Dangerous Random Banter #122 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116660)
Alteran's Amazingly Anachronistic, Altruistic, and Antagonistic Random Banter #123 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118380)
Admiral Euphoria's Random Banter Thread of Delusional Grandeur #124 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6614894)
Fred's Flying Fishy, Fighting, Fiery, Fantastic Face Off Random Banter #125 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121385)
Cyrano’s Non-Alliterative Inaugurational Random Banter #126 To Usher In The Future (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122977)
Thanatos's Tharmturges Present: Tropical, Tipsy, and Typically Random Banter #127
loopy's Legendary and Long-Awaited Lollipop Fuelled Random Banter #128 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123816)
Shadow's Shady Shop of Sharks, Shingles, Shammies, Shiny and Random Banter #129 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125667)
KataraAltinaII's Premature Not So Short & To-The-Point Random Banter #130 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126557)
Supagoof's Supa-Sensational Silly Symphonies Set Sizzingly On Fire Random Banter #131 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128570)
Pyrian's Pyrotechnic Pyre of Pyrrhic Pyros with Pyrotic Pythics Random Banter #132! (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130459)
Perenelle's Pleasantly Playful and Passionately Peculiar Random Banter #133 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131814)
Rpgsr4me's Ravenous, Roaring, Raging Rampage of Random Banter #134 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7373844#post7373844)
Il'deav Ilah'naie's Indiscreet Intimacies on Indigo Iceboats Random Banter #135 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134438)
Recaiden's Resplendent and Rotating Realistic Random Banter #136 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136879)
Jibar's Random Banter #137: Return of the Cat-muffin (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138879)
Edge's Effluence of Extravagant and Effulgent Random Banter #138 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7876065)
Zeb The Troll's Zecond Go At Ze Random Banter #139 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061505&postcount=1)
Curly's Rambunctious and Erudite Random Banter #140 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148462)
Deth Muncher's Destructive and Meandering Random Banter #141 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150904)
A Thread in Which Banter Most Random is Expulsed Into Existence, By Ravens_cry #142 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8722755)
Several Silly Sealions Stuffed Seaweed Southward Swiftly (Or, Random Banter #143) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159998)
The thread that changed name one last time, with style. (Random Banter #144) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161407)
Banjo’s Bodacious & Boosted Bumper Bulletproof Box of Banter Most Random #145 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162819)
Masa's Massively Masterful Message Medium - Random Banter #146 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164224)
KuReshtin's Vociferously Ruminating Harbinger of Random Banter - #147 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166664)
Archonic's Archaic Acronymical Antidisestablishmentarianism Random Banter - #148 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169890)
Skeppio's Splendidly Strange & Superbly Scintillating Random Banter - #149 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173056)
Teddy's Turbulent and Topicless Random Banter #150 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175338)
Fifty-Eyed Fred's Ferociously Fanatical and Fabulously Fascinating Random Banter #151 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178205)
Rae's Really Rascally and Ridiculously Rowdy Random Banter #152 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181296)
Haruki's Hot n' Holy Random Banter #153 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10176275#post10176275)
MoonCat's Magnificently Mythopoeic Random Banter #154 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187576)
Eadin's Exchange of Extraterrestrial Excuses AKA Random Banter #155 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190034)
Happy HalfTangible's Horrific Hail of Random Banter #156 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10629167#post10629167)
AtlanteanTroll's Atrocious and Terrific Arcade of Terror - RB #157 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196302)
LaLa’s Laughably Silly Random Banter Thread – RB #158 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198767)
Zaydos's Zany Zooetic Random Banter - RB #159 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200208)
Blue's Blessed and Blissful Random Banter - RB #160 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201653)
Absolmorph's Azoic Arete of Adventitious and Aimless Random Banter - RB 161 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202546)
Gwyn's Gloriously Green Garrumphing Garter of Garrulous Gabble! Random Banter #162 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203954)
Eruantion's Euphoric, Elephant-filled Elevated Epoch of Eurhythmic Random Banter #163 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205487)
ATW's Awesome Androgynous Avaricious Azure Ardent Adamant Alluvial Random Banter #164 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207269)
Cynical Avocado's Absolutely Admirable Accumulation of Random Bantering #165 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209860)
August's Pink Plushy and Phantasmagorically Random Banter Thread #166 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212011)
Heliomance's Everchanging Thread Title Random Banter #167 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213053)
Tragic_Comedian's Tremendously Tropical Random Banter #168 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215180)
Qwertystop's Quickly Quilted, Quip-filled Random Banter #169 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217326)
Thufir's Thupremely Thatithfying Thecond Random Banter With a Lithp #170 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219654)
Feytalist's Fantastically Freakish First Random Banter #171 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222713)
Dragonprime's Dashing Delight-fu Dazzling Dualistic Random Banter #172
Castaras' Random Banter #173: Bringing back your nostalgic Great Old Ones (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229164)
Pokemon-freak89's Random Banter number eleventy-twelve... uhh... I mean... number 174 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231235)
Dark Elf Bard's Random Banter #175:Playin' Underdark Jazz since the Drow went dark. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235950)
Mutant Sheep's Post Septaquintaquinquecentennial ApRiL fOoLs Random Banter: #176 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238117)
Elemental's Excitingly Excellent Random Banter: No.CLXXVII (177) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13163770)
Amiel's Appeasingly Appropriate Arbitrary Amusement (Random Banter): No.CLXXVIII #178 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245179)
"Your Angel of Banter Awaits." ThePhantasm Presents Random Banter #179 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13535351)
Serpentine's Secretly Sapphic Salacious Sacrarium of Random Banter #180 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253047)
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[Bartmanhomer]

Anyway. I'm ready to play my solo D&D 3.5 game: Domination Of Herlon.

[el minster]

a new thread, how nice :smile: I recently posted a thread on roleplaying about protesting the end of D&D 3.5 if anyone's intrested

[LaZodiac]

Ah, a fresh thread smell.

Speaking of smells, it has been raining for two days straight up here, and it smells WONDERFUL. I love the pristine scent of fresh rain.

[el minster]

Don't we all

[DataNinja]

Ah, been waiting for this. And, yes, the fresh spring smell after a rain is super nice. I'm not a fan of the actual weather, though. Give me all the sun. I am a sunflower girl. :smalltongue:

[Rater202]

I was recently reminded of something that happened to me in high school, forgive me the rant.

Two years in a row, I signed up for a class called Current Health issues(at the time I was hoping to go into Phramecology in college, and the course description made it sound like it was an Easy A, so two birds-one stone) and both years I was instead assigned to a class with a very confusing name that turned out to be a class about treating sports injuries--what to do if you suspect someone has a concussion or how to bind a sprain, that kind of thing, which are actually useful skills. Apparently, no one ever signs up for Current Health issues, so they automatically transfer anyone who signs up for it to another health class. (...Yeah.)

The first time, after a brief kerfuffle was a teacher I'd had previously saw that I was in the class and tried to have me transferred into something else while only saying that I wouldn't like the class but not saying why, which caused me to have a minor panic attack, I ended up rolling with it.

And I did well in it. Those are useful, practical skills and information that's important to know, most of the class was based on how well you can use the skills they teach you(we never even had a test) but... Over fifty percent of your grade was the final. You had to do an instructional video on how to treat a sprained ankle(and ou were allowed to be creative with it. He showed us an example of two people acting out as though they were Jedi who got injured in training.)

So me and the guy I'm partnered with decide on a theme, work out a basic script... We have a free period together every other school day and half a semester to get it together so plenty of time to get together and film, I sit in makeup for half an hour getting my ankle made up to look like a bad sprain... Dude never brings in his camera to film.

On the day we present the videos, the teacher calls on me, I have to tell him that my partner never brought in his camera, he tells me okay, sorry, but I fail, which means I fail the class... Then a few presentations later he calls my partner by name. He made a video with someone who wasn't even in the class.

So I failed becuase the other guy stabbed me in the back while he gets a fair grade.

I immediately transferred out when I was put int he class a second time.

That was over a decade ago but I still wish I'd blown up and made a scene about it instead of quietly seething over it.

[LaZodiac]

That is absolutely disgusting Ratar, and I hope everyone responsible for this got what they deserved. Because you did everything right and the only reason things went wrong is because everyone else ****ed you.

[Anonymouswizard]

Oh, I'm still nursing wounds from a decade and a half ago. Maybe? I'm still pissed off that I couldn't get a major part in any school plays because a) speech impediment and b) they were all musicals until like my GCSE years. Thankfully the few times I did plays outside of school I got better parts. But yep, absolutely disgusting, and I say that as somebody who did try to screw people over a couple of tines *(and had groups bully me into letting other people steal my work because it's not like I built the robot's body and did 90% of the programming, I gave you one programming job to do and instead of doing it you messed up my carefully calibrated program).

I should really get back into am dram.


Also, why are YouTube doing fifty minute adverts now. And if it's not bad enough, guess what the one I got was on?
It's basically the creepiest and most sexist 'hey [removed] here's how to sleep with all the hot womens' video ever. I got about fifteen minutes in out of sheer morbid curiosity, and wanting to see how it thinks all women are the same, and then it started going on about erotica and Fifty Shades and stuff that made less sense the more I drank. I stopped because it essentially began to insult my personality and sell this story of 'the only thing that matters is [blank], except instead of looks it's whatever this person is selling.

Like, I don't watch YouTube videos to be get unsolicited advice on how to meet attractive people, it might take me years but I can meet people who think I'm worthwhile! And if I wanted bad dating advice I'd just go and play that set of terrible FMV games.

[Rater202]

That is absolutely disgusting Ratar, and I hope everyone responsible for this got what they deserved. Because you did everything right and the only reason things went wrong is because everyone else ****ed you.
crap like that happened a lot.

Becuase I was a "special needs" student, I was required to take a course that amounted to a study hall(except I still got credit for it.) It wasn't a "special" class, it was just a class for people who might need extra time or a bit of help doing their homework, there were "normal" people too.

I take it my first year of highschool, they tell me that I only needed to take it the one year... the Second year of high school, instead of signing me up for Spanish 2 like I asked(you need three total years of foreign language to graduate where I went) they put me back in the same class again(on both days, instead of just every other day like the first semester) and refused to change it.

When I already had a study hall.

Naturally, not going into Spanish 2 immediately after Spanish 1 screwed me over hard. (luckily, retaking it counted as my third year.)

I had to threaten people to not be put back into that course a third time. I barely graduated as it was becuase of being put in classes I didn't sign up for that didn't cont for credits I needed for bullcrap reasons.

Here's another one: In middle school, for reasons I am not aware of, I was made to take Pre-Algebra even though my test scores in mathematics were high enough to skip and take full algebra(which would have meant that I wouldn't have had to take it in high school.)

The way the class was taught caused some problems, however, so my grade wasn't as high as it should have been. To her credit, the teacher admitted that it was a problem with the materials she was provided with and the way the school was making her teach it, and put a note in the file saying that my grade was lower than it should have been and that I was more than qualified to take algebra.

They ignored the note and put me in pre-algebra/algebra, which ate up two slots but only counted for one credit. They also screwed it up and had me with different teachers on each day, which I had to give up an elective to fix(I could have kept my elective if I'd been willing to stay in the other class but I'd been sitting right next to a delinquent who I'd known to be a bully... In hindsight, however.)

The teacher acted nice but she was a real bitch beneath h the surface. One time she gave me detention becuase someone else called me "retarded" in relation to my autism.(Mother complained about me getting detention for getting upset when the girl who did it got off scot-free and I was not required to go to that detention.) She would also find any reason at all to take points off.

Not only a "you have to show all of your work" type but also a "you have to do it exactly the way the book tells you even if the other way is just as accurate and also gets you correct answers and you have to have the exact decimalization that's in the answer key and if the way you showed your work isn't the same as the way I taught you, even if you did all of the exact same steps, then it's wrong" type.

She also made fun of me for getting upset at people singing the theme song to a show for toddlers specifically to annoy me and disrupt my concentration.

So, becuase of her ridiculously strict grading policies, my grade is once again much lower than it should have been, so when we're signing up the next year's courses I am told that I need to sign up for a different geometry class, one that spends a bit of extra time going over the basic equations that you use in geometry, becuase people who didn't do well n algebra sometimes had trouble in the normal Geometry class, and I'm not in a position to a context that so I do it.

they explicitly said that it counted as Geometry in terms of credits when I signed up for it. It was not until I was trying to sign up for my classes at the end of the next year after passing the alternative course that I am told that I was lied too and that I will have to take the regular geometry course to get the required credit, meaning I had to waste a year learning the same crap all over again three years in a row!

I also had to take health class twice because the first teacher didn't tell us that he was grading us on how thorough our note-taking was until after the note checks and didn't tell us it was half our grade at all. There wasn't a single thing we learned in High School health that hadn't been covered in the last three years of middle school health so I did not take care of my note-taking.

You ever ace every assignment and still fail the class? I did!

(The second guy fully admitted that the class didn't cover anything we didn't already know and said if we remembered it we didn't need to take notes becuase notes are for our benefit)

Then in senior year I almost failed everything my second semester because I missed a week and a half due to being hospitalized with a blood clot.

I kind of want to know what happened to get my college application accepted because my highschool transcript have got to look like someone who gives no craps about academia.

[el minster]

maybe they knew what had happened from somone else

[LaZodiac]

Rater I say with 100% surety and purpose that I want to burn down your school. This is agonizing to read and makes me SO ****ing mad on your behalf.

Your college application was likely accepted because the person in charge of the college isn't a foot eating buffoon who saw the utter MESS you went through and realized, correctly, that you're very smart and deserving of this despite what it might say on transcripts. Transcripts are irrelevant as they were written by nimrods too blind to see past their own eyelids.

I feel blessed to have had a school that both understand what I was going through and was full of people easily endeared towards me because I was likely on track for some of the garbage you went through, and I was able to strongarm those who needed it, and I wish you could have had that same opportunity.

[Anonymouswizard]

Well, the American school system confuses me (seriously, nothing here counts until you're like 14, because you can take whatever GCSEs you want, except maybe your school using Year 9 SATs to determine Foundation and Advanced English/Maths/Science classes). Also managed to get out of the special autism classes after a year due to the teachers arguing it was impacting my performance and I'm deceptively high functioning.

Unfortunately family expectations and autism stereotypes meant that everybody pushed me towards science related subjects except my GCSE English teacher, when what I actually wanted to do was English/Drama. As much as I love engineering, I still wish I could have done a literary criticism degree (although unlikely, as I'd already been pushed towards maths-focused A-levels, because Autism+maths family).

And guess how employable that science degree turned out to be? Yeah, maybe I should have been able to do a degree that wasn't marked >90% on it's exams, when I just don't exam well.

[enderlord99]

My laptop keeps claiming that our LAN doesn't connect to the Internet, even though my dad is currently using the Internet with no problem from a desktop wired in via the same network.

To clarify, it works for the laptop too... sometimes and briefly.

[Solamnicknight]

Ah, a fresh thread smell.

Speaking of smells, it has been raining for two days straight up here, and it smells WONDERFUL. I love the pristine scent of fresh rain.
Fresh rain is a wonderful smell! My other favorite smell is vanilla and pine trees! I love pine scented scented candles.

[Aotrs Commander]

Rater I say with 100% surety and purpose that I want to burn down your school. This is agonizing to read and makes me SO ****ing mad on your behalf.

Oh, don't worry, I've filed that away so I can do some appropriate burning down the line. Not the school, of course; no point burning a building when souls are both much more readily flammable and a more easily sustained blaze. Not only on the specific souls, of course, but all those who created the system to be abused in the first place.

The sad thing is I'm not EVEN surprised or even really outraged by any of this anymore; it is just a tired sigh, an eyeglow roll and another note added to the list of "Stuff Bleakbane Will Have To Fix, Because Humans Wouldn't, But Will Deeply Regret That They Didn't In What Remains Of Cognisence As Their Souls Burn Forever In Mindless Screaming Agony."

[Solamnicknight]

crap like that happened a lot.

Becuase I was a "special needs" student, I was required to take a course that amounted to a study hall(except I still got credit for it.) It wasn't a "special" class, it was just a class for people who might need extra time or a bit of help doing their homework, there were "normal" people too.

I take it my first year of highschool, they tell me that I only needed to take it the one year... the Second year of high school, instead of signing me up for Spanish 2 like I asked(you need three total years of foreign language to graduate where I went) they put me back in the same class again(on both days, instead of just every other day like the first semester) and refused to change it.

When I already had a study hall.

Naturally, not going into Spanish 2 immediately after Spanish 1 screwed me over hard. (luckily, retaking it counted as my third year.)

I had to threaten people to not be put back into that course a third time. I barely graduated as it was becuase of being put in classes I didn't sign up for that didn't cont for credits I needed for bullcrap reasons.

Here's another one: In middle school, for reasons I am not aware of, I was made to take Pre-Algebra even though my test scores in mathematics were high enough to skip and take full algebra(which would have meant that I wouldn't have had to take it in high school.)

The way the class was taught caused some problems, however, so my grade wasn't as high as it should have been. To her credit, the teacher admitted that it was a problem with the materials she was provided with and the way the school was making her teach it, and put a note in the file saying that my grade was lower than it should have been and that I was more than qualified to take algebra.

They ignored the note and put me in pre-algebra/algebra, which ate up two slots but only counted for one credit. They also screwed it up and had me with different teachers on each day, which I had to give up an elective to fix(I could have kept my elective if I'd been willing to stay in the other class but I'd been sitting right next to a delinquent who I'd known to be a bully... In hindsight, however.)

The teacher acted nice but she was a real bitch beneath h the surface. One time she gave me detention becuase someone else called me "retarded" in relation to my autism.(Mother complained about me getting detention for getting upset when the girl who did it got off scot-free and I was not required to go to that detention.) She would also find any reason at all to take points off.

Not only a "you have to show all of your work" type but also a "you have to do it exactly the way the book tells you even if the other way is just as accurate and also gets you correct answers and you have to have the exact decimalization that's in the answer key and if the way you showed your work isn't the same as the way I taught you, even if you did all of the exact same steps, then it's wrong" type.

She also made fun of me for getting upset at people singing the theme song to a show for toddlers specifically to annoy me and disrupt my concentration.

So, becuase of her ridiculously strict grading policies, my grade is once again much lower than it should have been, so when we're signing up the next year's courses I am told that I need to sign up for a different geometry class, one that spends a bit of extra time going over the basic equations that you use in geometry, becuase people who didn't do well n algebra sometimes had trouble in the normal Geometry class, and I'm not in a position to a context that so I do it.

they explicitly said that it counted as Geometry in terms of credits when I signed up for it. It was not until I was trying to sign up for my classes at the end of the next year after passing the alternative course that I am told that I was lied too and that I will have to take the regular geometry course to get the required credit, meaning I had to waste a year learning the same crap all over again three years in a row!

I also had to take health class twice because the first teacher didn't tell us that he was grading us on how thorough our note-taking was until after the note checks and didn't tell us it was half our grade at all. There wasn't a single thing we learned in High School health that hadn't been covered in the last three years of middle school health so I did not take care of my note-taking.

You ever ace every assignment and still fail the class? I did!

(The second guy fully admitted that the class didn't cover anything we didn't already know and said if we remembered it we didn't need to take notes becuase notes are for our benefit)

Then in senior year I almost failed everything my second semester because I missed a week and a half due to being hospitalized with a blood clot.

I kind of want to know what happened to get my college application accepted because my highschool transcript have got to look like someone who gives no craps about academia.

Condolences, I can say I don’t miss grade school one bit. My experience was more inmate of Arkham asylum since I got booted from my local district and ended up in these horrible schools for special needs students. Just google “isolation rooms autistic students” you’ll get the idea.

[enderlord99]

Bleakbane, killing everyone might technically cause their problems to go away, but it's not so much equivalent to "cutting the knot" as it is "decapitating the horses and manually dragging their cadavers away from each other."

I know you don't actually care; I just thought I'd point it out.

[Sermil]

crap like that happened a lot.

(lots of nasty high school {scrubbed})


Ugh.

I went through a pretty bad time in high school as well -- much more on the other kids bullying me side than bad teachers, but still scarring and painful for years.

Oddly enough, I recently got a "I bullied you a lot in high school, I'm so so sorry, please forgive me" letter and... I couldn't even remember who the person was. It felt so good to realize I didn't even know who he was any more.

[Solamnicknight]

Ugh.

I went through a pretty bad time in high school as well -- much more on the other kids bullying me side than bad teachers, but still scarring and painful for years.

Oddly enough, I recently got a "I bullied you a lot in high school, I'm so so sorry, please forgive me" letter and... I couldn't even remember who the person was. It felt so good to realize I didn't even know who he was any more.

Bullying is awful, that and getting in to trouble when you ended up standing up to them. I was baffled by some of the bullying I went through. I’m very tall, 6’2 so you’d think bullies wouldn’t “poke the bear” or “tickle the sleeping dragon” but they did.

[Bartmanhomer]

Well today I play my solo D&D 3.5 game. And my team beat a Lemure. (Well actually the male Dwarf Warblade best the Lemure because he's the only member of the team who can damage the devil.)

[Rater202]

Ugh.

I went through a pretty bad time in high school as well -- much more on the other kids bullying me side than bad teachers, but still scarring and painful for years.

Oddly enough, I recently got a "I bullied you a lot in high school, I'm so so sorry, please forgive me" letter and... I couldn't even remember who the person was. It felt so good to realize I didn't even know who he was any more.

Oh, I got that too.

In particular, I was sexually harassed in middle school by two different girls and in my first and fourth years of high school by two different guys. In both cases, it didn't really amount to much beyond inappropriate comments, but there's a non-zero chance that it's turned me off of the idea of romantic relationships.

(One of the girls from middle school later in high school asked me and a friend to set her up with someone becuase she was too shy to ask them out herself. I kept my mouth shut but in the back of my head I was calling bull.)

And middle school music class(which was mandatory) where my assigned seat was right next to two people who thought it was hilarious to ask me about my bathroom habits when I was in the middle of class trying to learn about how synthesizers work and would keep doing it until I started hyperventilating, and then they'd make fun of me for hyperventilating. Instead of punishing them for noisily asking in appropriate questions in class, the teacher would then make me get up and move my seat(something I hated becuase I'mn not doing anything wrong and it's my seat, move them!)

Every. Fracking day, I would go to my seat to do my classwork and these two chuckle****s would spend the whole class period doing their best to make me lose it and the stress of doing it would make me hyperventilate and the teacher would always ask me why I kept going back to my seat and I'd ask back why she's punishing me instead of them and one day she flat out says that they wouldn't make fun of me if I didn't hyperventilate.

"Hey, that completely involuntary reaction your body does from the stress of not flipping out and murdering the people who are putting you under extreme stress? Yeah, maybe don't do that."

On two separate occasions, once in Middle school and once in high school, someone reacted to me trying to stop them from cutting in the lunch line by punching me in the chest in from of multiple members of the staff and not a damn thing happened. No one even asks if I'm okay.

Go back even further? I was expelled in the first grade becuase nobody explained why I was in trouble when I was protesting art class(the art teacher forced me to start over on a project becuase someone in the other class picked the same thing as me and then canceled the project after the second day. I didn't think that was fair so I stopped going) and everyone acted like that was completely fine and an okay thing to do up until two weeks in when the principal is telling me that I need to go to art class without actually saying that I'm not allowed to protest classes or what rules I'm breaking and I get frustrated becuase she used to be nice but now she's acting mean and a six-year-old autist isn't going to be able to express themselves if they don't know what the hell is going on! So naturally, I start feeling threatened and when I felt threatened I'd make threats in turn. Eventually, my mom ju flat out tells me that the school called and said that they were gonna kick me out if I didn't go to art classes so I broke down, went to art class, got kicked out anyway.

At my new school, I was put in behavioral problem classes... Which is to say, they put all the mentally handicapped kids, autistic kids, ADHD kids, and kids with personality disorders in a little room and had them do homework while only occasionally actually meeting with their actual teacher. For the first grade, second grade, and third grade(by fourth I was in regular classes full time, albeit with special needs accommodations.)

For the first and second grades, the behavior problem room had a little wall on wheels that you sat behind for five minutes if you were being bad. To this day I still have no idea what constituted being bad and I'm still sure I was made to sit behind it for no reason. On at least one occasion I was put behind it repeatedly for literally doing nothing... They put an assignment in front of me and told me to do it when the assignment had no instructions and was something I had not learned yet.

There were also toys and board games and stuff in a corner. On Fridays, after lunch, if you were well behaved and caught up on your homework, you gut to play. One day, in the second grade, after behaving myself all week and being caught up on my work for once, I spend ten minutes building something out of legos and then the other kid who was playing with legos grabs it and breaks it apart in three seconds. Being a seven-year-old autist I naturally start crying. The teacher handling this responds not by punishing the kid who broke the sculpture I spent time building but by yelling at me for crying and banning me from playing with legos for the rest of the school year. This also included a completely different brand of the block that were not called legos and did not function as legos that were kept in a separate tub(which she did not tell me content until I was caught playing with them and punished for), and all that was left were boardgames that... Nobody wanted to play becuase everyone else was playing with legos.

So basically, in the second grade, I got cheated out of the reward that I was told I'd get if I behaved myself.

And then once a year, every year, they'd haul the whole school and make them sit in the gym, close the doors, turn off all the lights, and project stuff up on the wall about whatever generic half-assed feel-good message they picked that year with the loudspeakers out at ear rape volume and every time I either talked my way out of it or I spent an hour sitting cross-legged in the middle of a crowd of people in pitch darkness with my eyes closed, my hands over my ears, crying in terror becuase I was an autistic child who had a pathological fear of loud noises, crowds, and the dark! and some people had no sympathy.

Also, in the first grade after being moved to the new school, they thought I was racist for a month becuase they randomly pulled me out of class and made me spend time locked in a room alone with a woman without telling me what the hell was happening(it was supposed to be therapy) and assumed that it must have been becuase the woman was black instead of becuase they pulled me out of class during reading time and locked me in a room with someone without telling me what the hell was going on!.

(The woman was a really sweet woman. we got along well once someone bothered to tell me what the hell was going on!)

So, in conclusion: Elementary School is awful. Middle school is awful. High School was mostly awful.

[Bartmanhomer]

Oh, I got that too.

In particular, I was sexually harassed in middle school by two different girls and in my first and fourth years of high school by two different guys. In both cases, it didn't really amount to much beyond inappropriate comments, but there's a non-zero chance that it's turned me off of the idea of romantic relationships.

(One of the girls from middle school later in high school asked me and a friend to set her up with someone becuase she was too shy to ask them out herself. I kept my mouth shut but in the back of my head I was calling bull.)

And middle school music class(which was mandatory) where my assigned seat was right next to two people who thought it was hilarious to ask me about my bathroom habits when I was in the middle of class trying to learn about how synthesizers work and would keep doing it until I started hyperventilating, and then they'd make fun of me for hyperventilating. Instead of punishing them for noisily asking in appropriate questions in class, the teacher would then make me get up and move my seat(something I hated becuase I'mn not doing anything wrong and it's my seat, move them!)

Every. Fracking day, I would go to my seat to do my classwork and these two chuckle****s would spend the whole class period doing their best to make me lose it and the stress of doing it would make me hyperventilate and the teacher would always ask me why I kept going back to my seat and I'd ask back why she's punishing me instead of them and one day she flat out says that they wouldn't make fun of me if I didn't hyperventilate.

"Hey, that completely involuntary reaction your body does from the stress of not flipping out and murdering the people who are putting you under extreme stress? Yeah, maybe don't do that."

On two separate occasions, once in Middle school and once in high school, someone reacted to me trying to stop them from cutting in the lunch line by punching me in the chest in from of multiple members of the staff and not a damn thing happened. No one even asks if I'm okay.

Go back even further? I was expelled in the first grade becuase nobody explained why I was in trouble when I was protesting art class(the art teacher forced me to start over on a project becuase someone in the other class picked the same thing as me and then canceled the project after the second day. I didn't think that was fair so I stopped going) and everyone acted like that was completely fine and an okay thing to do up until two weeks in when the principal is telling me that I need to go to art class without actually saying that I'm not allowed to protest classes or what rules I'm breaking and I get frustrated becuase she used to be nice but now she's acting mean and a six-year-old autist isn't going to be able to express themselves if they don't know what the hell is going on! So naturally, I start feeling threatened and when I felt threatened I'd make threats in turn. Eventually, my mom ju flat out tells me that the school called and said that they were gonna kick me out if I didn't go to art classes so I broke down, went to art class, got kicked out anyway.

At my new school, I was put in behavioral problem classes... Which is to say, they put all the mentally handicapped kids, autistic kids, ADHD kids, and kids with personality disorders in a little room and had them do homework while only occasionally actually meeting with their actual teacher. For the first grade, second grade, and third grade(by fourth I was in regular classes full time, albeit with special needs accommodations.)

For the first and second grades, the behavior problem room had a little wall on wheels that you sat behind for five minutes if you were being bad. To this day I still have no idea what constituted being bad and I'm still sure I was made to sit behind it for no reason. On at least one occasion I was put behind it repeatedly for literally doing nothing... They put an assignment in front of me and told me to do it when the assignment had no instructions and was something I had not learned yet.

There were also toys and board games and stuff in a corner. On Fridays, after lunch, if you were well behaved and caught up on your homework, you gut to play. One day, in the second grade, after behaving myself all week and being caught up on my work for once, I spend ten minutes building something out of legos and then the other kid who was playing with legos grabs it and breaks it apart in three seconds. Being a seven-year-old autist I naturally start crying. The teacher handling this responds not by punishing the kid who broke the sculpture I spent time building but by yelling at me for crying and banning me from playing with legos for the rest of the school year. This also included a completely different brand of the block that were not called legos and did not function as legos that were kept in a separate tub(which she did not tell me content until I was caught playing with them and punished for), and all that was left were boardgames that... Nobody wanted to play becuase everyone else was playing with legos.

So basically, in the second grade, I got cheated out of the reward that I was told I'd get if I behaved myself.

And then once a year, every year, they'd haul the whole school and make them sit in the gym, close the doors, turn off all the lights, and project stuff up on the wall about whatever generic half-assed feel-good message they picked that year with the loudspeakers out at ear rape volume and every time I either talked my way out of it or I spent an hour sitting cross-legged in the middle of a crowd of people in pitch darkness with my eyes closed, my hands over my ears, crying in terror becuase I was an autistic child who had a pathological fear of loud noises, crowds, and the dark! and some people had no sympathy.

Also, in the first grade after being moved to the new school, they thought I was racist for a month becuase they randomly pulled me out of class and made me spend time locked in a room alone with a woman without telling me what the hell was happening(it was supposed to be therapy) and assumed that it must have been becuase the woman was black instead of becuase they pulled me out of class during reading time and locked me in a room with someone without telling me what the hell was going on!.

(The woman was a really sweet woman. we got along well once someone bothered to tell me what the hell was going on!)

So, in conclusion: Elementary School is awful. Middle school is awful. High School was mostly awful.
I'm sorry you've experience that. My school days were great before I got transfer to special education school I was bullied most of the time at public school. But after I was transfer for special education school it was a better experience. :smile:

[enderlord99]

Wow. The worst I've gotten in a school-ish environment was in a summer-camp thingy, where I was spinning on an office chair and another boy grabbed the back and wheeled me into the girls' restroom, while I kept yelling "No!" and "Stop!" before telling on me for "going into the girl's bathroom." I got in huge trouble, and I believe he got a reward for "warning" them about me being a "dangerous pervert" though I'm not sure about that last part.

Before anyone asks: I didn't jump out because, prior to that event, I'd had my fingers get caught in chairs of that exact type, and had strips of flesh torn off in the process... multiple times. If he wasn't stopping when I yelled "stop" why would I expect him to stop rather than running me over?

...

Other than that, my schooling and such was pretty good.

[Qwertystop]

...Wow. I... I really don't have a direct comparison; my grade-school days weren't great but it seems like yours were continually around my worst. At least, I think so... I don't remember much of grade-school, I think I blocked a lot out. Or just have a poor memory.

Empathy, anyway. I definitely know what it's like to be pressured and stressed and overflowing with nobody around you thinking it's a big deal.

[Rater202]

Oh, that reminds me of the "summer program" in elementary school, the summer between first and second grade.

They tell me that it'll be fun, that there's a little bit of work but it'll mostly be games and field trips.

It was two extra months of school with three field trips, the last of which I was forbidden from going on for reasons that I don't recall, with one teacher who didn't really care and one who was actively mean.

I am pretty sure that she came up behind me and git me in the neck during one of the field trips. She said that some kids who weren't in the trip were throwing rocks but I could have sworn I saw her hand in the corner of my eye.

So, basically I got tricked into giving up my summer for more awfulness.

[Insane Jeenyus]

wow, I spend a weekend in the hospital and a whole new thread crops up!

[Peelee]

wow, I spend a weekend in the hospital and a whole new thread crops up!

Nothing serious or lasting, I hope?

[The Fury]

Hey! Guess what? I got something last night! Know what it is?


45 minutes of sleep! Now I got the sillies.

[Fyraltari]

I am amused that my half-assed rewording of the rules to fit my half-assed « friendly » theme made it to two new threads.

[BisectedBrioche]

I am amused that my half-assed rewording of the rules to fit my half-assed « friendly » theme made it to two new threads.

A friendly smile goes a long way indeed.

[Bartmanhomer]

A friendly smile goes a long way indeed.

The more you know. :biggrin:

[sktarq]

So a group of people who I hung out in pre-Covid times didn't listen to the lockdown when we had it...they threw parties on the regular spent unemployment on recreating our favorite bar in someone's backyard and the like....so some people, like myself, made sure to go "electronic acquaintance only" with this crowd for a time....so right now this crew is making up a fair chunk of the active COVID cases in my area (we have been pretty okay in this part of the county)...which really shocks nobody but them.

That they now have the gall to ask me for help with stuff because they sick is actually annoying. I figure the conflict between a)I'm not close to these people anyway b)they were being irresponsible idiots and c)if someone responsible doesn't they are liable to go out for food runs etc potentially exposing others because "they feel fine" is what I think is really irking me. Because there is an implied threat of C and they know I am responsible. Hopefully someone who is actually emotionally bonded to them steps up.

EDIT 1: I just needed to vent that. And honestly got to send that "I-told-you-so" energy somewhere and GiantITP-RB seemed a fair a place as any, hopefully get a few exasperated laughs at human folly.
EDIT 2: so just double checked local case numbers...728 total in my part of the world...and this lovely bunch of coconuts accounts for 15-20 ppl.

[Bartmanhomer]

So a group of people who I hung out in pre-Covid times didn't listen to the lockdown when we had it...they threw parties on the regular spent unemployment on recreating our favorite bar in someone's backyard and the like....so some people, like myself, made sure to go "electronic acquaintance only" with this crowd for a time....so right now this crew is making up a fair chunk of the active COVID cases in my area (we have been pretty okay in this part of the county)...which really shocks nobody but them.

That they now have the gall to ask me for help with stuff because they sick is actually annoying. I figure the conflict between a)I'm not close to these people anyway b)they were being irresponsible idiots and c)if someone responsible doesn't they are liable to go out for food runs etc potentially exposing others because "they feel fine" is what I think is really irking me. Because there is an implied threat of C and they know I am responsible. Hopefully someone who is actually emotionally bonded to them steps up.

Good grief! :sigh:

[deltamire]

Ooh, new thread!

I've been messing around with amounts and alternatives for a minestrone recipe and one of the aspects of that is seeing if I can use alternative forms of pasta instead of just macaroni. Because most pastas we use here are nothing fancy, just roughly the same mixture in different shapes, I've been bashing up penne pasta with a meat mallet to break it down to more convenient soup-sized lumps. Great for dealing with run-off anxiety.


Managed to squeeze out the first two chapters of the story I'll be working while the other is resting over the last three days. Both are fun to write - it's two separate, alternating perspectives, from two different characters as they slowly trundle towards each other - but the first problem is chronologically, which one comes first? Neither has specific reasons for coming first, and info-dumps are hopefully being spread between both of them equally. I shouldn't be worrying about it this early into the first draft, but it's been annoying me all morning.



That they now have the gall to ask me for help with stuff because they sick is actually annoying. I figure the conflict between a)I'm not close to these people anyway b)they were being irresponsible idiots and c)if someone responsible doesn't they are liable to go out for food runs etc potentially exposing others because "they feel fine" is what I think is really irking me. Because there is an implied threat of C and they know I am responsible. Hopefully someone who is actually emotionally bonded to them steps up.

God, that sucks. I'm sorry you've been put in a situation like that, and just how selfish these people seem to be - not just about their own health, but other, more vulnerable people too. We're seeing a lot of that with the lockdown, but you gotta look after yourself first.

[LaZodiac]

Ooh, new thread!

I've been messing around with amounts and alternatives for a minestrone recipe and one of the aspects of that is seeing if I can use alternative forms of pasta instead of just macaroni. Because most pastas we use here are nothing fancy, just roughly the same mixture in different shapes, I've been bashing up penne pasta with a meat mallet to break it down to more convenient soup-sized lumps. Great for dealing with run-off anxiety.


Managed to squeeze out the first two chapters of the story I'll be working while the other is resting over the last three days. Both are fun to write - it's two separate, alternating perspectives, from two different characters as they slowly trundle towards each other - but the first problem is chronologically, which one comes first? Neither has specific reasons for coming first, and info-dumps are hopefully being spread between both of them equally. I shouldn't be worrying about it this early into the first draft, but it's been annoying me all morning.


God, that sucks. I'm sorry you've been put in a situation like that, and just how selfish these people seem to be - not just about their own health, but other, more vulnerable people too. We're seeing a lot of that with the lockdown, but you gotta look after yourself first.

I've always kinda figured that alternating perspectives/viewpoints are either concurrent (the one you see first happens first, then the next one, and so on) or happened at the exact same time if they are spatially separated. That's usually how I do it anyway.

[el minster]

So a group of people who I hung out in pre-Covid times didn't listen to the lockdown when we had it...they threw parties on the regular spent unemployment on recreating our favorite bar in someone's backyard and the like....so some people, like myself, made sure to go "electronic acquaintance only" with this crowd for a time....so right now this crew is making up a fair chunk of the active COVID cases in my area (we have been pretty okay in this part of the county)...which really shocks nobody but them.

That they now have the gall to ask me for help with stuff because they sick is actually annoying. I figure the conflict between a)I'm not close to these people anyway b)they were being irresponsible idiots and c)if someone responsible doesn't they are liable to go out for food runs etc potentially exposing others because "they feel fine" is what I think is really irking me. Because there is an implied threat of C and they know I am responsible. Hopefully someone who is actually emotionally bonded to them steps up.

i just needed to vent that. And honestly got to send that "I-told-you-so" energy somewhere and GiantITP-RB seemed a fair a place as any, hopefully get a few exasperated laughs at human folly.

Probobaly the best thing is to take care of them until they get better then "unfriend" them

[deltamire]

I've always kinda figured that alternating perspectives/viewpoints are either concurrent (the one you see first happens first, then the next one, and so on) or happened at the exact same time if they are spatially separated. That's usually how I do it anyway.
That's how I usually do it too, and what is currently the second one does actually happen a couple of hours before, but the reason I've got it as the latter one is because it explains what happens in the first. So the Big Nasty Inciting incident happens timeline-wise second, but chronologically first, and then the explanation / development of the exposition behind it happens timeline-wise for the characters first, but chronologically second. Infodumps in the first chapter have always been a pet peeve of mine, so I like to keep the first 3000 words or so sleek. Or as sleek as I can get it, anyhow.

I think my best bet is continuing on with layout up in the air and then when I get a second and third pair of eyes on it get their opinions on it.

[sktarq]

Probobaly the best thing is to take care of them until they get better then "unfriend" them

I'll point out. These are already not my friends but acquaintances, we have mutual friends, share the same local, and the like but that is all....and that is part of the issue. An actual friend asking for help is somewhat more palatable. Counter to that is the fact that most of the people they would normally ask are also effected with COVID...thus the frustration.

And if you are thinking FB and the like... I've never had any social media so that's not an option (maybe ICQ counts, had that) I could "loose their number" somehow but that would be petty.

[el minster]

Oh, didn't realize they weren't your friends maybe direct them to those mutual friends

[LaZodiac]

That's how I usually do it too, and what is currently the second one does actually happen a couple of hours before, but the reason I've got it as the latter one is because it explains what happens in the first. So the Big Nasty Inciting incident happens timeline-wise second, but chronologically first, and then the explanation / development of the exposition behind it happens timeline-wise for the characters first, but chronologically second. Infodumps in the first chapter have always been a pet peeve of mine, so I like to keep the first 3000 words or so sleek. Or as sleek as I can get it, anyhow.

I think my best bet is continuing on with layout up in the air and then when I get a second and third pair of eyes on it get their opinions on it.

Sounds reasonable an idea, I like it!

I don't mind a little bit of exposition at the start, so long as they hook us into caring about the characters first.

[Solamnicknight]

Sounds reasonable an idea, I like it!

I don't mind a little bit of exposition at the start, so long as they hook us into caring about the characters first.

I’ve been writing a multiple perspective fantasy novel as well, it’s been an enjoyable experience now that I’ve worked out some details on the characters and setting and am finally figuring out a smooth interconnected plot.

[Bartmanhomer]

Oh, didn't realize they weren't your friends maybe direct them to those mutual friends

I consider you my friend. :smile:

[deltamire]

I’ve been writing a multiple perspective fantasy novel as well, it’s been an enjoyable experience now that I’ve worked out some details on the characters and setting and am finally figuring out a smooth interconnected plot.
While I took a break from writing more perspectives to work on my character voices for a while, with this new project I am firmly back on my bull**** with them. I just love, love writing them. They're a fantastic way to build up a world in more than one dimension because every character has to have some new experience or opinion, otherwise they're just cardboard cut-outs. You get the added benefit of extra characterisation if you have your POV characters being seen by other POV characters, and you even have a quick and in-canon way for you to easily swap between tension and action - because you're literally dragging the reader away from one point of view to another. So, so, good.

I'm glad the fantasy genre has taken a swing back towards them recently. Or, at least, there's been one in YA.

[LaZodiac]

While I took a break from writing more perspectives to work on my character voices for a while, with this new project I am firmly back on my bull**** with them. I just love, love writing them. They're a fantastic way to build up a world in more than one dimension because every character has to have some new experience or opinion, otherwise they're just cardboard cut-outs. You get the added benefit of extra characterisation if you have your POV characters being seen by other POV characters, and you even have a quick and in-canon way for you to easily swap between tension and action - because you're literally dragging the reader away from one point of view to another. So, so, good.

I'm glad the fantasy genre has taken a swing back towards them recently. Or, at least, there's been one in YA.

God, I super agree on that. What's fun with doing different POVs is also how it changes the narration and stuff, even if you're doing third person. The narration is altered because you're with a different character with different priorities and thoughts.

My favorite trick is making use of a characters known languages to play around with this sort of thing. Like of one character who doesn't know french hears the word merde, it'll be shown as "*french word for *****" in italics to denote it is a foreign language. A character who knows french would hear it as "****" but in italics to denote it was SAID in a foreign language.

[Jasdoif]

That's how I usually do it too, and what is currently the second one does actually happen a couple of hours before, but the reason I've got it as the latter one is because it explains what happens in the first. So the Big Nasty Inciting incident happens timeline-wise second, but chronologically first, and then the explanation / development of the exposition behind it happens timeline-wise for the characters first, but chronologically second. Infodumps in the first chapter have always been a pet peeve of mine, so I like to keep the first 3000 words or so sleek. Or as sleek as I can get it, anyhow.Hm. My usual approach is to have the very first scene set up the stage, so to speak: Pick a viewpoint other than one of the main characters, start the scene off like it's a normal day, end with side effects of the story trigger disrupting the normal day, and don't explain anything...sometimes to the point of not giving anything or anyone a name.

So basically, establishing the setting purely through action; simultaneously avoiding exposition, serving as a hook for readers to want to fill in the blanks, and building enough of a mental framework that it's easy for readers to fit the main characters into the world when they show up. And, as a bonus, since it's dealing with propagation of effects, the next scene can be concurrent or prior to the story trigger without the sense of disruption that an early timeline jump can cause. (Also, it pretty much forces me to ignore the inclination to shove in the tons of worldbuilding details that no one else is going to care about in the beginning)

[Anonymouswizard]

Finally managed to make some progress on this game.

Yeah, writing what's essentially a rules medium game might not seem hard, but between work (and the associated travel), keeping a house clean, maintaining a garden, and dividing the flirts so nobody feels left out I just find myself without a lot of time to devote to writing.

And then I go and make things harder for myself by adding in a skill system, because darn it spells were already becoming skills, and now I've got to come through the rules to see what I need to change to using skills and update the Advancement mechanics. Guess I can now add Skill Prerequisites to Talents, but I'm not sure I want Skill Taxes. And we're now up to twice my original target page count and I haven't even written skill descriptions or linking text. Guess I might as well add in another magic discipline or two so I can actually have those classic Shapechanging abilities in this fantasy game (but I have finally finished Pyromancy*, at least in a basic rulebook form).

* Which reminds me, there's no rules for fires spreading or causing damage, better add them in.

[Bartmanhomer]

I'm having a blast with my solo D&D 3.5 game. It is just all too easy for me. I don't know why everyone says it impossible to do it. I find it very easy to do and the game turned out great. :biggrin:

[el minster]

I'm having a blast with my solo D&D 3.5 game. It is just all too easy for me. I don't know why everyone says it impossible to do it. I find it very easy to do and the game turned out great. :biggrin:
maybe they're just overthinking it

I consider you my friend. :smile:

And I you :biggrin:

[Bartmanhomer]

I used to happen a few friends that I was very close to, 8bitninja and Prince Zahn. Boy, I missed them so much. :frown:

[el minster]

they left?

[Bartmanhomer]

they left?

Yes, they left.

[el minster]

Oh, that's horrible :frown:

[Bartmanhomer]

Oh, that's horrible :frown:

I wouldn't say horrible per say. It just that they lost interest in this forum. Sad but true. :frown:

[Solamnicknight]

I wouldn't say horrible per say. It just that they lost interest in this forum. Sad but true. :frown:
I’m trying to be active on this forum, it’s just difficult especially with my online classes sometimes. Always looking for new and interesting friends to talk to though! Don’t be afraid to ask me stuff, I’m not a bridge troll that’s going to eat you if you ask the wrong question lol.

[Bartmanhomer]

I’m trying to be active on this forum, it’s just difficult especially with my online classes sometimes. Always looking for new and interesting friends to talk to though! Don’t be afraid to ask me stuff, I’m not a bridge troll that’s going to eat you if you ask the wrong question lol.

Ok. I'll talk to you some time. Wow, that was.....random? :eek:

[Solamnicknight]

Ok. I'll talk to you some time. Wow, that was.....random? :eek:
Not trying to scare you sorry! Was just trying to be friendly. Not sure how good I am at that sometimes, I have autism and am socially awkward.

[Bartmanhomer]

Not trying to scare you sorry! Was just trying to be friendly. Not sure how good I am at that sometimes, I have autism and am socially awkward.

Join the club. I also got autism and socially awkward.

[Solamnicknight]

Join the club. I also got autism and socially awkward.
That’s funny! I’ve noticed quite a few people on here are openly autistic. Also I’m tired tonight. I was playing a Savage Worlds game on Roll 20 that an old friend invited me to a few weeks ago. It’s been interesting, a sci-fi mystery/investigation game.

[Peelee]

I used to happen a few friends that I was very close to, 8bitninja and Prince Zahn. Boy, I missed them so much. :frown:


they left?


Yes, they left.


Oh, that's horrible :frown:


I wouldn't say horrible per say. It just that they lost interest in this forum. Sad but true. :frown:

Guys, please remember some of the Random Banter thread guidelines:
10. Every post should contain two visible, legible complete sentences with Subject and Predicate. But don't stress too much over grammar, as long as you try to be understandable I am sure your old English teacher would be proud.

11. Remember, Random Banter is not your IM client. If you want to have a nice back and forth with one friend (and who wouldn't?), you can find the necessary IM details in their contact information.

There have now been several conversations consisting of incredibly short posts just between you two. There is nothing wrong with wanting to talk to a specific person, but please consider whether these conversation may be better suited to PMs.

[Bartmanhomer]

Guys, please remember some of the Random Banter thread guidelines:

There have now been several conversations consisting of incredibly short posts just between you two. There is nothing wrong with wanting to talk to a specific person, but please consider whether these conversation may be better suited to PMs.

Ok. My bad Peelee. I do apologized from and we're going to discussed it in the PM.

[Sermil]

So, now with my starting a new thread after the previous one hit 50 pages, I'm kinda curious: Why do we have a 50 page limit on threads?

I heard it was a technical reason[citation needed], but I'm curious as to the technical reason.

The site says it runs on vBulletin. vBulletin says it runs the Steam forums, but I don't see a similar restriction there. So I assume it's not a hard limit. Of course, Steam has near-infinite resources for paying for lot of hosting compute power, and giantitp.com doesn't, so it could be a soft limit...

[Solamnicknight]

My apologies pelee, will continue in IM!

[factotum]

So, now with my starting a new thread after the previous one hit 50 pages, I'm kinda curious: Why do we have a 50 page limit on threads?

My guess is that the tools the moderators use for splitting bad posts out of threads etc. just work slower and slower the more posts are there--that's how a forum I used to moderate years ago worked, at any rate. So limiting the number of pages in a thread means the moderators can still work on it as necessary.

[DataNinja]

So, now with my starting a new thread after the previous one hit 50 pages, I'm kinda curious: Why do we have a 50 page limit on threads?

I heard it was a technical reason[citation needed], but I'm curious as to the technical reason.

The site says it runs on vBulletin. vBulletin says it runs the Steam forums, but I don't see a similar restriction there. So I assume it's not a hard limit. Of course, Steam has near-infinite resources for paying for lot of hosting compute power, and giantitp.com doesn't, so it could be a soft limit...
A quick google says that the original reason (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?26268-Thread-Length&p=1480718&viewfull=1#post1480718) had to do with load times. Probably also does have something to do with moderation, and just having more and more things chaining off the same points. I very much have only a rudimentary knowledge of the fundamentals here, though. So foot may be in mouth. :smalltongue:

[Bartmanhomer]

It looks like I'm at a Youtube War by so many idiots due to my recent video that I mentioned that my friends and I are accused of cyberbullying all because we call out on another Youtuber cyberbullying and harassing a teenager girl. :mad:

[Peelee]

My guess is that the tools the moderators use

The only tools they gave me when they showed me the physical servers were a hammer and a comically-oversized wrench. The wrench is for percussive maintenance.

[el minster]

It looks like I'm at a Youtube War by so many idiots due to my recent video that I mentioned that my friends and I are accused of cyberbullying all because we call out on another Youtuber cyberbullying and harassing a teenager girl. :mad:

Trolls are real *sigh*. They're just another anying thing you have to live with but stay optimistic privately because why not, but don't underestimate pessimism because pessimism saves the world, that's my motto :thumbsup:

[DataNinja]

The only tools they gave me when they showed me the physical servers were a hammer and a comically-oversized wrench. The wrench is for percussive maintenance.

Oh, for throwing at the server gremlins? And/or making the hamsters run faster? :smalltongue:

[factotum]

That was nice, my employers gave me a £100 Amazon gift card for my upcoming 50th birthday!

[Cazero]

The only tools they gave me when they showed me the physical servers were a hammer and a comically-oversized wrench. The wrench is for percussive maintenance.
But what's the hammer for? Physicaly slotting square server racks into round pegs?

[LaZodiac]

That was nice, my employers gave me a £100 Amazon gift card for my upcoming 50th birthday!

I'm conflicted because that is actually pretty good a gift in general, but there's a good chance your place of employment could give you something better as a gift, and if youj happen to work for a company owned by Amazon that's effectively being payed in scrip.

But on the third hand that means you have money to buy my book and I'm nothing if not a slave to my desires, so I present that as a fun option for your recent funds.

All jokes aside I'm of two minds on gift cards as they pertain to actual gifts. For me there is this implicit feeling that a gift card implies I'm not being trusted with money, or that they only WANT me to buy at this place instead of anywhere else I could use money at. But it has become increasingly obvious that since I live in the middle of nowhere, gift cards are actually fairly useful if they can be used for online shopping. And restaurant based gift cards typically only get given out after you've proven that you're a regular of specific places so it's like "we know you're going to go eat here anyway, here's 50 Boston Pizza bucks". So yeah, conflicted. Ultimately I'd ust prefer to cut out the middle man and get the gift I'd buy with the gift card though.

[Aotrs Commander]

I just want to open presents, myself, which is why I maintain an updated list year-round.

[Peelee]

But what's the hammer for?

Sorry, I'm not allowed to say

[Rawhide]

A quick google says that the original reason (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?26268-Thread-Length&p=1480718&viewfull=1#post1480718) had to do with load times. Probably also does have something to do with moderation, and just having more and more things chaining off the same points. I very much have only a rudimentary knowledge of the fundamentals here, though. So foot may be in mouth. :smalltongue:

FYI, posts per page were half the current amount back then, so it was technically 25 pages, adjusted for inflation!

We've kept the amount at 50 because it keeps managing threads much easier. Also, who the heck is going to read a 1000+ page thread? You would melt faces!

[Qwertystop]

Hah – never noticed the RB thread rules still talk about IM-ing.


I'm conflicted because that is actually pretty good a gift in general, but there's a good chance your place of employment could give you something better as a gift, and if youj happen to work for a company owned by Amazon that's effectively being payed in scrip.

But on the third hand that means you have money to buy my book and I'm nothing if not a slave to my desires, so I present that as a fun option for your recent funds.

All jokes aside I'm of two minds on gift cards as they pertain to actual gifts. For me there is this implicit feeling that a gift card implies I'm not being trusted with money, or that they only WANT me to buy at this place instead of anywhere else I could use money at. But it has become increasingly obvious that since I live in the middle of nowhere, gift cards are actually fairly useful if they can be used for online shopping. And restaurant based gift cards typically only get given out after you've proven that you're a regular of specific places so it's like "we know you're going to go eat here anyway, here's 50 Boston Pizza bucks". So yeah, conflicted. Ultimately I'd ust prefer to cut out the middle man and get the gift I'd buy with the gift card though.

1: General agreement – on the one hand, come on just give me cash, on the other hand, apparently you know me well enough to know I'd be going to this particular place anyway. Or, alternately, you got me Amazon money when I avoid Amazon on principle whenever possible.

2: You're in Canada and your first thought on a frequent eatery is "Boston Pizza"? I'm living in Boston and I didn't know we were associated with a particular kind of pizza – it's primarily (basically) New York-style here.

[Rater202]

Every so often I wonder how many small children are going to be scarred for life by their parents or grandparents letting them watch The Banana Splits Movie without noticing that its rated R.

(Seriously, who the hell thought that a gory slasher movie depicting beloved children's characters as homicidal robots was a good idea?)

[LaZodiac]

1: General agreement – on the one hand, come on just give me cash, on the other hand, apparently you know me well enough to know I'd be going to this particular place anyway. Or, alternately, you got me Amazon money when I avoid Amazon on principle whenever possible.

2: You're in Canada and your first thought on a frequent eatery is "Boston Pizza"? I'm living in Boston and I didn't know we were associated with a particular kind of pizza – it's primarily (basically) New York-style here.

Okay so fun fact, Boston Pizza is a Canadian originated restaurant that serves hamburgers, quesadilla, and yes pizza, in a faux fancy dining experience. In America they're just called "Bostons" and I don't imagine they're very popular down there.

[factotum]

I'm conflicted because that is actually pretty good a gift in general, but there's a good chance your place of employment could give you something better as a gift, and if youj happen to work for a company owned by Amazon that's effectively being payed in scrip.

I don't work for a company owned by Amazon, but thanks for the buzzkill anyway.

[Peelee]

Okay so fun fact, Boston Pizza is a Canadian originated restaurant that serves hamburgers, quesadilla, and yes pizza, in a faux fancy dining experience.

Ah, Canada. Where Boston Pizza is a Canadian restaurant that sells burgers and Canadian Tire is a home improvement store. You truly live in a magical land.

[The Fury]

Okay so fun fact, Boston Pizza is a Canadian originated restaurant that serves hamburgers, quesadilla, and yes pizza, in a faux fancy dining experience. In America they're just called "Bostons" and I don't imagine they're very popular down there.

Boston pizza... A Canadian restaurant that serves quesadillas? Do they serve any other kind of Tex-Mex or Mexican cuisine too? I'll be honest, I always sort of wondered if you can get decent Mexican food in Canada. I've been told that you can't in the eastern states, so I'm thinking probably not?

[Peelee]

Boston pizza... A Canadian restaurant that serves quesadillas? Do they serve any other kind of Tex-Mex or Mexican cuisine too? I'll be honest, I always sort of wondered if you can get decent Mexican food in Canada. I've been told that you can't in the eastern states, so I'm thinking probably not?

Maybe the northeastern states? We've got a large amount of fantastic Mexican restaurants and food trucks down here.

[The Fury]

Maybe the northeastern states? We've got a large amount of fantastic Mexican restaurants and food trucks down here.

Yeah, I can't confirm this but I've been told that Mexican places in the western states are better than those in the northeast anyway. I'm not sure about the south though.

It is true that a Mexican food truck that can do legit tacos al pastor or a generously-sized torta is the rule rather than the exception here.

[Peelee]

Yeah, I can't confirm this but I've been told that Mexican places in the western states are better than those in the northeast anyway. I'm not sure about the south though.

It is true that a Mexican food truck that can do legit tacos al pastor or a generously-sized torta is the rule rather than the exception here.

My wife gets pastore as her standard order from food trucks(also the one closest to us did tongue meat tacos, which I would get every dang time because I like to live in flavor country), as well as from a few of the the local restaurants.

[LaZodiac]

I don't work for a company owned by Amazon, but thanks for the buzzkill anyway.

Sorry about that. Happy birthday though!


Ah, Canada. Where Boston Pizza is a Canadian restaurant that sells burgers and Canadian Tire is a home improvement store. You truly live in a magical land.

You know I don't think I've ever seen any degree of car products at Canadian Tire...


Boston pizza... A Canadian restaurant that serves quesadillas? Do they serve any other kind of Tex-Mex or Mexican cuisine too? I'll be honest, I always sort of wondered if you can get decent Mexican food in Canada. I've been told that you can't in the eastern states, so I'm thinking probably not?

It's got nachos! Everything at Boston Pizza has pepper and sriracha in it so it's very spicy, which is LIKE Mexican food... to a degree. I think it has other Mexican/Tex-Mex style dishes but I typically stick to what I get.

It also sells lots of pasta!

[el minster]

Yeah, I can't confirm this but I've been told that Mexican places in the western states are better than those in the northeast anyway. I'm not sure about the south though.


That makes sense they're closer to mexico

[Anonymouswizard]

Cuisines that we don't get here enough in the UK: Mexican, French, Turkish, French, German, French, and Flavour.

What we get too much of over here: American commercial cuisine. Yeah, this is one of the reasons Britons will take the piss out of American cuisine, we don't get to see any of the high flavour stuff, just like how the flavourful British food tends to get tagged as 'not really British'. Well that, and the fact we don't expect you to take two thirds of your meal home when you eat in restaurants.

[Peelee]

Cuisines that we don't get here enough in the UK: Mexican, French, Turkish, French, German, French, and Flavour.

What we get too much of over here: American commercial cuisine. Yeah, this is one of the reasons Britons will take the piss out of American cuisine, we don't get to see any of the high flavour stuff, just like how the flavourful British food tends to get tagged as 'not really British'. Well that, and the fact we don't expect you to take two thirds of your meal home when you eat in restaurants.

Saying "American cuisine" is kind of like saying "European cuisine". Geographically, you're correct, but there can be a huge variation. There's Southern kitchens, creole/cajun, New England, Tex/Mex, seafood, Southwest, just to name the more notable ones off the top of my head. That's also ignoring the much more specific regional ones, like New York pizza, Chicago deep dish, Chicago hot dog culture, etc.

[Anonymouswizard]

And yet apparently English curry is really Indian, and we didn't make apple pie either.

[Qwertystop]

And yet apparently English curry is really Indian, and we didn't make apple pie either.

English curry is derived from but not the same as Indian curry, and is the reason why Japan considers curry to be a Western food.

[Peelee]

And yet apparently English curry is really Indian, and we didn't make apple pie either.

Look, the sun never set on the British Empire, so don't be upset at people punching up.:smalltongue:

[Anonymouswizard]

Look, the sun never set on the British Empire, so don't be upset at people punching up.:smalltongue:

Still aint set, and we're planning to tidally lock the Mercury colony just to be sure :smallwink:

[Peelee]

Still aint set, and we're planning to tidally lock the Mercury colony just to be sure :smallwink:

Just so long as you're prepared for jokes about how bad the food is there, that's fine.

[Rater202]

In my sophomore year of Highschool, on literally the last day of school, at literally the last minute, they told us that we would have to volunteer to work at specific local businesses, for no pay, and with no benefits, starting with my class and that refusal to do so(we were not told minimal hours for it) by the time we completed out the senior year we would not be permitted to graduate.

I was naturally quite pissed off, since it basically amounted to local businesses using the local high school students as slave labor and, it being sprung on us at literally the last minute meant we could not voice our complaints about it for a whole summer.

Of the other students, and m family, I was literally the only person who seemed to have a problem with being made to work on my own time for no pay to graduate. It wasn't like they were having us do community service or entering volunteer programs, they literally wanted us to go to specific private businesses who'd cut deals with the school and work for no pay.

(And pro-tip, if you're forcing someone to do it, it's not volunteering, it's extortion.)

But my class being told about this new policy was also the last we ever heard it. I did not do any such 'volunteering' and still graduated.

I don't know the details, but I'm pretty sure that such a policy would be in violation of several laws and that someone pointed this out.

The school also made kids who were in ISS help the cafeteria and janitorial staff when someone called off work sick, which I have since been told is illegal, and according to my little brother special needs students would sometimes help restock the vending machines(he didn't act like he was forced to, but he's lower functioning.)

My mom used to work for the bus yard and said that the school city was the Mafia. Now that I think about it... I mean, one year I got put on the suicide watch list for a day or two becuase a teacher took my short story out of context. Mom got a call. She starts tearing into the bullcrap but it only gets fixed when she mentioned working for the schools.

Year later, some ******** takes something I said out of context to make it seem like I'm planning to shoot the school up. This time, the principal talks to me and gets my side first instead of just doing something without getting the facts straight. Which, in thirteen years of schooling, had never happened ever to myself or anyone I knew. Honestly, considering that my answer to "are there any weapons in your house" was to explain in detail how you could murder someone with a box of tissues, I should have gotten in trouble. (There was a brief misunderstanding. I was not aware of the rumors going around until after I was called down) but nothing came of it and I got off scot free.

It was obvious to me and to my family that the only reason I was given the benefit of the doubt was because my mom was in the "Mafia."

[el minster]

That's horrible I have no words :eek:
How does a school like that not get shut down

[Anonymouswizard]

I mean, over here you do a week's compulsory slave labour before reaching the end of compulsory schooling (which is now different to the end of compulsory education), but from my understanding most businesses went along with it to avoid being given students at random. It's mainly used as an excuse to shove the worst work off to the work experience kid for a week, I spent most of my time typing up teacher's notes (which, in all honesty, is not a bad one to get, could have been stuck in retail).

But yeah, are you sure you were actually sent to a school, and not some sort of afterlife?


On my way home from work I got annoyed that there's no open world Tarzan game. Just imagine having to switch behind some Mirror's Edge style running and vine swinging, keeping up speed so you don't get caught or lose your prey? It could be amazing.

[DataNinja]

FYI, posts per page were half the current amount back then, so it was technically 25 pages, adjusted for inflation!

We've kept the amount at 50 because it keeps managing threads much easier. Also, who the heck is going to read a 1000+ page thread? You would melt faces!

Yeah, that was a neat little bit of trivia I also saw in that thread. The fun things you learn from a random google with a select few keywords. :smalltongue:

Yeeeeeeeeah, it's definitely a lot harder to skip around in bigger threads, as well as just... looking overwhelming.
But Rawhide, you can't just start reading a series in part 49 of 50. :smalltongue:

[Rater202]

I';m gonna conclude my stories about my k-12 experiences(I'dd never finish if I told them all) by saying that the mot satisfying day of my pre-college academic career was not the day I graduated but in my freshman year when the English teacher admitted to my face that I was smarter than her.

I'm sure you all can understand why.

[Peelee]

I';m gonna conclude my stories about my k-12 experiences(I'dd never finish if I told them all) by saying that the mot satisfying day of my pre-college academic career was not the day I graduated but in my freshman year when the English teacher admitted to my face that I was smarter than her.

I'm sure you all can understand why.

Smarter than she. She should have taught better English.:smalltongue:

I don't normally go for prescriptivist jokes, but that was lobbed right over the plate.

ETA: What's the over/under that she was just saying that to make you happy/end an argument she wasn't interested in?

[Sermil]

On local cuisine...

I had a co-worker who was born and raised in China, didn't come to the US until graduate school. He said the Chinese food in California is actually, in some ways, better than what he got back home.

In China, if you were in northern China (forgetting the exact names here), you could only get good northern-China cuisine. Food in the southern, western, etc styles was usually touristy and sub-par.

But in California, if you knew where to go, you could get good, authentic northern Chinese food one night, good, authentic southern Chinese food the next night, good, authentic Korean BBQ another day. (And we have good hospitals to skin-graft your tongue back together after eating the authentic Korean BBQ.)

[Fyraltari]

Look, the sun never set on the British Empire, so don't be upset at people punching up.:smalltongue:

... the sun set on the British Empire. It set so hard in fact, that there isn’t à British Empire left.

[Peelee]

And we have good hospitals to skin-graft your tongue back together after eating the authentic Korean BBQ.

:confused:

I'm not quite sure how to read that. Speaking as someone who has been to a number of authentic Korean BBQ restaurants (no small number of which were in Korea).

... the sun set on the British Empire. It set so hard in fact, that there isn’t à British Empire left.

That's exactly what they want you to think!

[Sermil]

:confused:

I'm not quite sure how to read that. Speaking as someone who has been to a number of authentic Korean BBQ restaurants (no small number of which were in Korea).



Well, the last Korean BBQ I went to was extremely spicy. Burn-your-tongue-off spicy.
But maybe the Korean friend I went with was just into spicy foods? She ate a lot of very hot kimchi as well.

[IthilanorStPete]

... the sun set on the British Empire. It set so hard in fact, that there isn’t à British Empire left.

Pitcairn Islands say hi. They're keeping the "sun never set..." claim alive.

[Peelee]

Well, the last Korean BBQ I went to was extremely spicy. Burn-your-tongue-off spicy.
But maybe the Korean friend I went with was just into spicy foods? She ate a lot of very hot kimchi as well.

Having a half-Korean wife, Korean MIL, and large extended Korean family who treated me like their own child when we visited Korea, I can say with near-certainty that the Korean friend you were with was into spicy foods, and probably didn't take into account/didn't know that you were not prepared for that. There are plenty of much less crazy-hot foods that Korean BBQs totally serve; I used to love spicy foods, but these days good Louisiana crawfish is about the spiciest I can take anymore, so I absolutely know your pain, but I can attest that you can definitely find foods there that are both authentic and super tasty without killing your taste buds.

[Fyraltari]

Pitcairn Islands say hi. They're keeping the "sun never set..." claim alive.

I mean, I, personnally, would be remiss to bring up the island where 33% of the adult male population sexaully abused children.

[Rater202]

Smarter than she. She should have taught better English.:smalltongue:

I don't normally go for prescriptivist jokes, but that was lobbed right over the plate.

ETA: What's the over/under that she was just saying that to make you happy/end an argument she wasn't interested in?

She was one of the ones that was more good than bad about it.

She was trying to reassure me that she understood why I was so frustrated with the actions of other students or things I perceived as pointless busy work: I've never actually felt as smart as I'm supposed to be, but apparently I have an IQ of 185. (or at least, 185 by the standards set by that particular test at the time I took it. It'd probably be lower if I took it now becuase recalibration. People are getting smarter over time and they set the test so the average person will always score 100) so if the test was in any way accurate I'm some kind of super genius that is miles beyond most people. (I've never actually felt like that, so...)

I'm kind of ashamed of myself, but I used to act like it. Partly as a defense mechanism, becuase, well, I got bullied allot and had to put up with some asshat teachers and "I'm much smarter than them" was a way of reassuring myself.

But, of course, it also led to me getting more frustrated becuase when you're gaining self-worth from the knowledge that you're smarter than 90% of the people around you, you start to notice when you're being talked down to or when people are acting stupid on purpose to piss you off.

(Our when you're the only one taking things seriously. I got kicked out of an engineering class for calling my partners idiots because they were alternating between doing nothing and making suggestions that wouldn't do the thing we had to build something to do. That assignment was thrown out because literally no-one in the class got it done in time.)

So the teacher was trying to convince me that she understood that I was frustrated.

[Cazero]

:confused:

I'm not quite sure how to read that. Speaking as someone who has been to a number of authentic Korean BBQ restaurants (no small number of which were in Korea).Dude, you're a dragon. You breathe fire.

[factotum]

I mean, I, personnally, would be remiss to bring up the island where 33% of the adult male population sexaully abused children.

It's still British, much as we might wish otherwise...

[enderlord99]

Dude, you're a dragon. You breathe fire.

Silver dragons breathe ice, though.

[Anonymouswizard]

I've never actually felt as smart as I'm supposed to be, but apparently I have an IQ of 185. (or at least, 185 by the standards set by that particular test at the time I took it. It'd probably be lower if I took it now becuase recalibration. People are getting smarter over time and they set the test so the average person will always score 100) so if the test was in any way accurate I'm some kind of super genius that is miles beyond most people. (I've never actually felt like that, so...)

Could be faulty calibration. I'm the only one of my full siblings not to have taken an IQ test (like my half sister I had the luck of being in a county without grammar schools when I was in year six, went to a ****ing amazing comprehensive). Assuming families tend to clump together I'll be in the high 130s to low 140s by noughties standards. However compared to my siblings I've always felt like the dumb one, partially due to having problems with both standard schoolwork and expression (hooray ASD!), despite probably being in the top 10% of people I know for raw brainpower.

Then again, my standard method of problem solving is brute force and ignorance. So I might not actually count as intelligent.

In all seriousness, I remember at university I was really good with code, I could hash out a working bit of VHDL for an electronic lock in like two hours (plus two hours of tweaking), and breezed through the first year C++ practical exam despite handing in C code rather than C++ code. But I'm definitely not the smartest person I know, and probably not a genius.


It's still British, much as we might wish otherwise...

Am I allowed to be comfortable with Children's TV presenters yet? I always worry we'll hear things in forty years that'll make it much less nice.

[factotum]

Am I allowed to be comfortable with Children's TV presenters yet? I always worry we'll hear things in forty years that'll make it much less nice.

I'm less than a week off my 50th birthday, I'm really not the person to be asking anything about the current crop of children's TV presenters. :smallsmile:

[LaZodiac]

Today I woke up feeling a bit sleepy and kinda bad because I stayed up a bit later than normal.

Then I saw that Undine and Heartful Punch kissed and now I have energy again.

[Aotrs Commander]

Just seen on an advert sidebar.

"Wear a mask. Pass it on."

And you can clearly see at no point did anyone think about how completely, actively self-defeatingly that could be misinterpreted.

"But Bleakbane, people aren't that stup-" YES THEY ARE.

[el minster]

Could be faulty calibration. I'm the only one of my full siblings not to have taken an IQ test (like my half sister I had the luck of being in a county without grammar schools when I was in year six, went to a ****ing amazing comprehensive). Assuming families tend to clump together I'll be in the high 130s to low 140s by noughties standards. However compared to my siblings I've always felt like the dumb one, partially due to having problems with both standard schoolwork and expression (hooray ASD!), despite probably being in the top 10% of people I know for raw brainpower.

Then again, my standard method of problem solving is brute force and ignorance. So I might not actually count as intelligent.

In all seriousness, I remember at university I was really good with code, I could hash out a working bit of VHDL for an electronic lock in like two hours (plus two hours of tweaking), and breezed through the first year C++ practical exam despite handing in C code rather than C++ code. But I'm definitely not the smartest person I know, and probably not a genius.



Am I allowed to be comfortable with Children's TV presenters yet? I always worry we'll hear things in forty years that'll make it much less nice.

C++is backwards compatible so of course it worked when you submitted C

[2D8HP]

I was recently reminded of something that happened to me in high school, forgive me the rant...



Ugh.

I went through a pretty bad time in high school as well...


Rant totally forgiven, and speaking of High School...

...in 1982/'83 (Freshman year), something changed that year that really gave me a 'punk' attitude:
My Mom made a fuss and I was moved from the mostly poor kids "Intermediate" English track, to the mostly middle-class "Advanced" English track, and this change was awful for me.

In the "Intermediate" English class most days most of the boys would skip class and it was me and the girls (who were nice to me) and the teacher would play recordings of speeches and we'd write our reactions which only took a few minutes and much of my time was spent talking to the girls or reading a science fiction book someone had left by the window, but the "Advanced" class was very different, there were books we were given, much more homework, and the teacher was very clear that one additional student was not welcome in her class and most days I had to move and get out of whatever chair I was on when of my classmates came in to take an assigned seat, and I usually had to stand or sit on the floor and the teacher would chastise me for being "disruptive". I hated her, hated my new classmates, and they hated me back, especially after standing against the wall I threw up in class. I wished to take their books and go back to my old class with the poorer neighborhood girls and read there instead, it was clear to me that who was in which class was based on what neighborhood we were from and a "chip on my shoulder" grew that decades later has never really left, though truthfully I already had an anti-authority attitude against some teachers 'cause in Junior High School (ages 12 and 13) one of the male teachers would smoke marijuana with my female classmates (and yes years later he would be arrested for having sex with a minor), I hated our 9th grade (I was 14 years old) algebra teacher as well 'cause the first day he told us "Half of you will fail this class", I counted how many of us they were, didn't bother to raise my hand and just yelled out "You're telling us that 16 of us are wasting our time here?" - needless to say I was among the failures despite being judged "one of the advanced students that's ready for algebra" the year before (since they were only four of us so judged in our whole school they just gave us the textbook, said "teach yourselves", and we sat in a corner of the regular math class and played cards all year). Years later my sort-of-girlfriend (we saw A LOT of movies together) told me of that teacher "He came onto me my freshman year".

In 1984 I started volunteering at KALX (our local "college" radio station) mostly at night alphabetising the record collection, and from time-to-time going to the listening station, often I'd be the only person at the station besides the D.J. and in time I was trained to be one ("Dr Frank" later author of "King Dork" I think was the first to train me), and since I was already often there after midnight I came to be a substitute D.J. for the night/graveyard shifts quite a lot.

The crew at KALX were very welcoming and I was thrilled to be accepted by real adults (most in retrospect only a few years older than me), I had my first taste of mulled wine and a poppy seed muffin at a KALX Christmas party (both were delicious!), explored the fanzine collection, and very much felt at home.

For a while at KALX it was ruled that "community members" (non-college students and non-college employees) could only continue to volunteer there if enrolled in a local 'community college' "Radio Technology" class, which I did, but when I re-enrolled for the next semester they told me that it was a mistake as I was still under 18 and still a High school student and couldn't re-enroll without permission from my High school, so I scheduled an appointment with a counselor who told me "If you want permission you have to take a test on a Saturday", I did, it was a lot of questions, but easy ones, and when I passed I was told that not only could I now take whatever community college classes I wanted but that I now had a "California High School Proficiency" diploma and to get the Hell off campus, and out of my High school classes as in the eyes of the law I was a graduate and was no longer to attend BHS (a bit of a surprise!) so I was kicked out of high school.


Ah, Canada. Where Boston Pizza is a Canadian restaurant that sells burgers and Canadian Tire is a home improvement store. You truly live in a magical land.


Canada truly is a magical land!

My first love and first real girlfriend was only 16/17 to my 19/20 and she was also 'spending time with' (cue Biz Markie) an "about 30 years old" man who gave her the Wire's 1977 "Pink Flag" album, and after I shared with her a bunch of albums she told me about it (and where she got it from) and we'd listen to it together.

After my tearful breakup with "K" it was 1989, I was now 21 years old and going to see Helios Creed in San Francisco, on the way to which I saw "N", an older than me (not yet but closer to 30 than 20) very Punk girl who was also going to the gig who I befriended back when I was 18 when we were both worked the refreshment stand at a local club (the one Green Day started in), I was surprised to see her back in California, and she was a different first to me before she left California again. Some months later I visited her in Ottawa where we went to a record shop that had pretty pricey British imports including "Pink Flag" which I paid $20 Canadian dollars (about $15 U.S.) for, which was the most money I ever spent on any piece of media until the late '90's, but I finally had my own copy of Wire's 1977 "Pink Flag", and it's 21 (short) songs.

Ottawa was weird, so clean it felt like a film set, we went to one Punk Rock show together (with an amazingly peaceful audience), crossed over to Francophone Hull, and visited a museum in Montreal. Montreal, despite being a French speaking city, felt more "American" somehow than Ottawa. The last day before I returned to returned to California she told me "Thank you for making me love you again", I sent her letters afterwards, she sent one back apologizing that she "Can't love you the same way" and I never saw her again,

I still have "Pink Flag", I still treasure it, and listen to it a lot, one of my favorite songs on it is the beautiful "Fragile":
♪♫♬
Tears fall in slivers, you broke my shades
The light too bright, let me bury my heart
Filter emotions of green, cowardicee gives blue
A restricted view, let me open my heart
I have a fleeting love
Searching when it lands
Fragile, needing precious hands
Fragile
You eat my energy, give me more rope
Nail in the wall, let me hang my heart
I have a fleeting love
Searching when it lands
Fragile, needing precious hands
♪♫♬
which is immediately followed by the ANTI-love song "Mannequin (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IL0VpdvA6G4)"
the lyrics of which I have often ached to say to bosses and co-workers.
Mannequin has been often recorded by other artists (and often sounds romantic despite the lyrics), but I've only seen it performed once, at a house party hosted by KALX D.J. Lisa Albright/Anaconda, where the band there that night performed it, and that night is the last time I saw the beautiful "J" before her suicide. We were both KALX volunteers, went on a few dates together, but that night we only spoke briefly as she was with a guy who stayed close to her and stared daggers at me (who could've been her brother, they did look enough alike). She's been gone decades now, but I still think of her, and "Mannequin" is among the songs that trigger those memories.

In June 1992 me and the women who I later married went to see "All the Vermeers in New York", it was my birthday that week, and she told me "I'm glad you were born", within a month she asked me to live with her, we each went on one last date with others that we'd pre-committed to, mine taking poor "A" to a show in San Jose that took me far too long to get to because I got lost and it's hard to read a map on a motorcycle at night (sorry!), D's was with "a tattooed guy', and the next half year when D and me lived on our unemployment checks was the happiest days of my life and I wasn't a punk anymore, though sadly (though she well deserved it) she never had as much of my love that I could give when I was even younger because my heart was smaller by then (too much scar tissue).

In '93 I found a job at a motorcycle shop (the manager liked my then still punk hair, which the owner hated), and my punk anger (or "working class anger" as my best male friend of the '90's "W" called it in a tale of his clubbing unconscious a mouthy new German car owner) came back.
Sometimes the old punk surfaced more, a young new hire at the motorcycle shop I worked at asked me what I was thinking about and I responded: "There will always be a moon over Marin", he asked me what I meant by that and I told him "They're lyrics from a song by the band who's name you have painted on your jacket", I pointed to I different name on his jacket "Eater" and recited 'Outside View', then I did "Jesus Built My Hot Rod" (okay, Ministry isn't really Punk, but close enough to it), "Which band was that?" he asked, "The one on your left arm" I told him (yes, I was kinda being a jerk, sorry).

When me and "D" seperated in '98 (she moved back to Seattle to be with her dying father, I kept working at the motorcycle shop and paid rent so she could come back to California) I rode motorcycles more, and I also went to a couple of gigs again, I again went on a date with "K" (she had come back from her brief time at a college in Washington State, where weirdly my wife was then near) and I don't remember anymore a word we said to each other then. I met "B" who years ago had introduced me to "K", and afterwards did "salvage work" on me (she's who I saw a lot of movies with, in retrospect too many: "Sid and Nancy", "She's Gotta Have It", et cetera, that feature men being horrible to women) an X gig that I arrived at shedding a massive amount of water because I rode my motorcycle in a downpour to get there, she told me she was moving to the U.K. to be with her mother that she hardly knew growing up, and I never saw her again. At a warehouse party in west Oakland I found myself at I met again some of the old crew, including "R" (who did a painting that became a Green Day album cover) where he told me he was going to New York "to be in the belly of the beast", and I remembered having the same desire once, but it was gone, along with almost all my lusts for anything new, all I wanted was the familiar. At a Lookout records anniversary show after the band named me as "a guy in the song" and pointed at me, a much younger than me audience member said "I always wondered who that was", I asked him "How did you get into this music?", "Green Day!" he answered. After talking with them I found that the new punks of the late '90's weren't like the old ones, they were cheerful beyond even the "Fluffy Punks" of the late '80's, "They're not like we were, somehow they're not broken, they can take the jacket off, walk into an office and still smile, few of us could work that trick" I later thought. Eventually I saved enough to pay rent for months without a job, temporary quit the motorcycle shop (winter was coming and they really didn't need my hands for that season anyway) and I went to Seattle to be with my wife again, and after the awaited death of her Dad we returned together to Oakland, California, and we never really talked of our time apart.
@Peelee, you may be interested in what I've spoiled 'cause I mention punk rock and motorcycles, @Anonymouswizard, you may be interested in what I've spoiled because I mention love and romance in one's twenties.

[Anonymouswizard]

C++is backwards compatible so of course it worked when you submitted C

The point is more 'didn't do it the way the module intended', I used some libraries we hadn't been introduced to and did it in a less efficient way than intended, and still got an A. Plus side is that it'sfar easer to format with printf than cout.

The hardest part was keeping myself entertained until the accessor notice that I'd asked them for marking (if you passed you goted as completed and didn't have to continue testing, because half the class would finish well wthin the time limit and the other half would be debugging until the end).

[Bartmanhomer]

Anyway yesterday I have a fun time with my solo D&D 3.5 game. There was no fighting but K'yorl received a letter to his little sister. :smile:

[LaZodiac]

Oh boy I love vomiting the day I have to actually do a fair amount of work at work. Woo.

I'm okay it just sucks a lot!

[DataNinja]

Oh boy I love vomiting the day I have to actually do a fair amount of work at work. Woo.

I'm okay it just sucks a lot!

Oh no, Zodi! Take care of yourself...

[Aotrs Commander]

Oly, random stupid quiestion. Catalyst Labs have given me ('cos I were a kickerstart in the Clan Invasion BattleTech campaign (I solely did it so I could buy a frack-ton of plastic Mech dirt-cheap...)) a load of digital books. They are in "Generic.epub" and "Kindle.mobi."

The frack do I use to look at them? The second one seems obvious, but the former? *shrug*



Bearing in mind a) my phone does exactly three things, and three things only: make phone calls, recieve phone calls (theothetically) and recieve two-stage verification texts (and it is not good at any of them and I deeply resent the latter) and b) I do not own a kindle (technically, if it still works since I don't think I've used it for a year, I have my Mum's ancient non-touch screen can't even see a model-name-on-it-once-I-blew-the-dust-off Kindle, but's it) and c) my little-used tablet is explictly Windows 10-based (and exists for two the purposes of Taking down The Club For An Additional Copy of 3.Aotrs and Emergancy Back-Up Table Photos For Convention Maps In Case The Paper One Disappears Like It Did That One Time.)

[Jasdoif]

Oly, random stupid quiestion. Catalyst Labs have given me ('cos I were a kickerstart in the Clan Invasion BattleTech campaign (I solely did it so I could buy a frack-ton of plastic Mech dirt-cheap...)) a load of digital books. They are in "Generic.epub" and "Kindle.mobi."

The frack do I use to look at them? The second one seems obvious, but the former? *shrug*



Bearing in mind a) my phone does exactly three things, and three things only: make phone calls, recieve phone calls (theothetically) and recieve two-stage verification texts (and it is not good at any of them and I deeply resent the latter) and b) I do not own a kindle (technically, if it still works since I don't think I've used it for a year, I have my Mum's ancient non-touch screen can't even see a model-name-on-it-once-I-blew-the-dust-off Kindle, but's it) and c) my little-used tablet is explictly Windows 10-based (and exists for two the purposes of Taking down The Club For An Additional Copy of 3.Aotrs and Emergancy Back-Up Table Photos For Convention Maps In Case The Paper One Disappears Like It Did That One Time.)I use the free SumatraPDF (https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader.html) primarily for PDFs on my Windows 10 machine (after I discovered Adobe hid the auto-update setting in Adobe Acrobat Reader and I was forced to restart during a work project because other programs wouldn't open because the auto-update had locked system files), but it also reads mobi and epub files.

[Anonymouswizard]

I've started watching Food Wars, it's hilarious and amazing. This id what it feels like to cook amazing food for people.

[LaZodiac]

I've started watching Food Wars, it's hilarious and amazing. This id what it feels like to cook amazing food for people.

It is what it feels like, for the most part!

Just uh... stop before season five.

[Bartmanhomer]

Anyway, another exciting session has turned out to be a great success. This time the 5 heroes we're fighting 3 Lemures. K'yorl uses bless spell on everybody. The Lemures attack missed. K'yorl scores a critical and kill one of the Lemures. Darrak kills the second Lemure with his waraxe. The third Lemure damaged K'yorl by 2 points of damage with its claw attack. K'yorl missed so does the third Lemure and Darrak kills the third Lemure everybody earns 180 XP.

[Anonymouswizard]

It is what it feels like, for the most part!

Just uh... stop before season five.

I'll stop once it starts getting overly silly. By which I mean frying hotpot potatoes silly, not the relatively mild current level of dramaticness.


On the subject of food, can anybody recommend herbs that would go well with sea bass or sole? I'm trying to work out what to cook when I can finally meet up with a ladyfriend, and I'm planning some pan fried* fish with sautéed potatoes and seasonal vegetables, but I don't want to use unflavoured butter when serving the fish. I'll likely get fresh rosemary for the potatoes, so I don't want anything too overpowering, quick googling suggests chives?

The alternative would be to cook the fish in butter instead of olive oil and serve it with freshly sliced lemon, which is more what I'm used to. Then get a decent white wine to go alongside it, but avoid either of us drinking too much.

* In my mind the only true way to cook fish. Sure I've baked it occasionally, but it doesn't taste as nice.

[Rater202]

Rant totally forgiven, and speaking of High School...

...in 1982/'83 (Freshman year), something changed that year that really gave me a 'punk' attitude:
My Mom made a fuss and I was moved from the mostly poor kids "Intermediate" English track, to the mostly middle-class "Advanced" English track, and this change was awful for me.

In the "Intermediate" English class most days most of the boys would skip class and it was me and the girls (who were nice to me) and the teacher would play recordings of speeches and we'd write our reactions which only took a few minutes and much of my time was spent talking to the girls or reading a science fiction book someone had left by the window, but the "Advanced" class was very different, there were books we were given, much more homework, and the teacher was very clear that one additional student was not welcome in her class and most days I had to move and get out of whatever chair I was on when of my classmates came in to take an assigned seat, and I usually had to stand or sit on the floor and the teacher would chastise me for being "disruptive". I hated her, hated my new classmates, and they hated me back, especially after standing against the wall I threw up in class. I wished to take their books and go back to my old class with the poorer neighborhood girls and read there instead, it was clear to me that who was in which class was based on what neighborhood we were from and a "chip on my shoulder" grew that decades later has never really left, though truthfully I already had an anti-authority attitude against some teachers 'cause in Junior High School (ages 12 and 13) one of the male teachers would smoke marijuana with my female classmates (and yes years later he would be arrested for having sex with a minor), I hated our 9th grade (I was 14 years old) algebra teacher as well 'cause the first day he told us "Half of you will fail this class", I counted how many of us they were, didn't bother to raise my hand and just yelled out "You're telling us that 16 of us are wasting our time here?" - needless to say I was among the failures despite being judged "one of the advanced students that's ready for algebra" the year before (since they were only four of us so judged in our whole school they just gave us the textbook, said "teach yourselves", and we sat in a corner of the regular math class and played cards all year). Years later my sort-of-girlfriend (we saw A LOT of movies together) told me of that teacher "He came onto me my freshman year".

In 1984 I started volunteering at KALX (our local "college" radio station) mostly at night alphabetising the record collection, and from time-to-time going to the listening station, often I'd be the only person at the station besides the D.J. and in time I was trained to be one ("Dr Frank" later author of "King Dork" I think was the first to train me), and since I was already often there after midnight I came to be a substitute D.J. for the night/graveyard shifts quite a lot.

The crew at KALX were very welcoming and I was thrilled to be accepted by real adults (most in retrospect only a few years older than me), I had my first taste of mulled wine and a poppy seed muffin at a KALX Christmas party (both were delicious!), explored the fanzine collection, and very much felt at home.

For a while at KALX it was ruled that "community members" (non-college students and non-college employees) could only continue to volunteer there if enrolled in a local 'community college' "Radio Technology" class, which I did, but when I re-enrolled for the next semester they told me that it was a mistake as I was still under 18 and still a High school student and couldn't re-enroll without permission from my High school, so I scheduled an appointment with a counselor who told me "If you want permission you have to take a test on a Saturday", I did, it was a lot of questions, but easy ones, and when I passed I was told that not only could I now take whatever community college classes I wanted but that I now had a "California High School Proficiency" diploma and to get the Hell off campus, and out of my High school classes as in the eyes of the law I was a graduate and was no longer to attend BHS (a bit of a surprise!) so I was kicked out of high school.




Canada truly is a magical land!

My first love and first real girlfriend was only 16/17 to my 19/20 and she was also 'spending time with' (cue Biz Markie) an "about 30 years old" man who gave her the Wire's 1977 "Pink Flag" album, and after I shared with her a bunch of albums she told me about it (and where she got it from) and we'd listen to it together.

After my tearful breakup with "K" it was 1989, I was now 21 years old and going to see Helios Creed in San Francisco, on the way to which I saw "N", an older than me (not yet but closer to 30 than 20) very Punk girl who was also going to the gig who I befriended back when I was 18 when we were both worked the refreshment stand at a local club (the one Green Day started in), I was surprised to see her back in California, and she was a different first to me before she left California again. Some months later I visited her in Ottawa where we went to a record shop that had pretty pricey British imports including "Pink Flag" which I paid $20 Canadian dollars (about $15 U.S.) for, which was the most money I ever spent on any piece of media until the late '90's, but I finally had my own copy of Wire's 1977 "Pink Flag", and it's 21 (short) songs.

Ottawa was weird, so clean it felt like a film set, we went to one Punk Rock show together (with an amazingly peaceful audience), crossed over to Francophone Hull, and visited a museum in Montreal. Montreal, despite being a French speaking city, felt more "American" somehow than Ottawa. The last day before I returned to returned to California she told me "Thank you for making me love you again", I sent her letters afterwards, she sent one back apologizing that she "Can't love you the same way" and I never saw her again,

I still have "Pink Flag", I still treasure it, and listen to it a lot, one of my favorite songs on it is the beautiful "Fragile":
♪♫♬
Tears fall in slivers, you broke my shades
The light too bright, let me bury my heart
Filter emotions of green, cowardicee gives blue
A restricted view, let me open my heart
I have a fleeting love
Searching when it lands
Fragile, needing precious hands
Fragile
You eat my energy, give me more rope
Nail in the wall, let me hang my heart
I have a fleeting love
Searching when it lands
Fragile, needing precious hands
♪♫♬
which is immediately followed by the ANTI-love song "Mannequin (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IL0VpdvA6G4)"
the lyrics of which I have often ached to say to bosses and co-workers.
Mannequin has been often recorded by other artists (and often sounds romantic despite the lyrics), but I've only seen it performed once, at a house party hosted by KALX D.J. Lisa Albright/Anaconda, where the band there that night performed it, and that night is the last time I saw the beautiful "J" before her suicide. We were both KALX volunteers, went on a few dates together, but that night we only spoke briefly as she was with a guy who stayed close to her and stared daggers at me (who could've been her brother, they did look enough alike). She's been gone decades now, but I still think of her, and "Mannequin" is among the songs that trigger those memories.

In June 1992 me and the women who I later married went to see "All the Vermeers in New York", it was my birthday that week, and she told me "I'm glad you were born", within a month she asked me to live with her, we each went on one last date with others that we'd pre-committed to, mine taking poor "A" to a show in San Jose that took me far too long to get to because I got lost and it's hard to read a map on a motorcycle at night (sorry!), D's was with "a tattooed guy', and the next half year when D and me lived on our unemployment checks was the happiest days of my life and I wasn't a punk anymore, though sadly (though she well deserved it) she never had as much of my love that I could give when I was even younger because my heart was smaller by then (too much scar tissue).

In '93 I found a job at a motorcycle shop (the manager liked my then still punk hair, which the owner hated), and my punk anger (or "working class anger" as my best male friend of the '90's "W" called it in a tale of his clubbing unconscious a mouthy new German car owner) came back.
Sometimes the old punk surfaced more, a young new hire at the motorcycle shop I worked at asked me what I was thinking about and I responded: "There will always be a moon over Marin", he asked me what I meant by that and I told him "They're lyrics from a song by the band who's name you have painted on your jacket", I pointed to I different name on his jacket "Eater" and recited 'Outside View', then I did "Jesus Built My Hot Rod" (okay, Ministry isn't really Punk, but close enough to it), "Which band was that?" he asked, "The one on your left arm" I told him (yes, I was kinda being a jerk, sorry).

When me and "D" seperated in '98 (she moved back to Seattle to be with her dying father, I kept working at the motorcycle shop and paid rent so she could come back to California) I rode motorcycles more, and I also went to a couple of gigs again, I again went on a date with "K" (she had come back from her brief time at a college in Washington State, where weirdly my wife was then near) and I don't remember anymore a word we said to each other then. I met "B" who years ago had introduced me to "K", and afterwards did "salvage work" on me (she's who I saw a lot of movies with, in retrospect too many: "Sid and Nancy", "She's Gotta Have It", et cetera, that feature men being horrible to women) an X gig that I arrived at shedding a massive amount of water because I rode my motorcycle in a downpour to get there, she told me she was moving to the U.K. to be with her mother that she hardly knew growing up, and I never saw her again. At a warehouse party in west Oakland I found myself at I met again some of the old crew, including "R" (who did a painting that became a Green Day album cover) where he told me he was going to New York "to be in the belly of the beast", and I remembered having the same desire once, but it was gone, along with almost all my lusts for anything new, all I wanted was the familiar. At a Lookout records anniversary show after the band named me as "a guy in the song" and pointed at me, a much younger than me audience member said "I always wondered who that was", I asked him "How did you get into this music?", "Green Day!" he answered. After talking with them I found that the new punks of the late '90's weren't like the old ones, they were cheerful beyond even the "Fluffy Punks" of the late '80's, "They're not like we were, somehow they're not broken, they can take the jacket off, walk into an office and still smile, few of us could work that trick" I later thought. Eventually I saved enough to pay rent for months without a job, temporary quit the motorcycle shop (winter was coming and they really didn't need my hands for that season anyway) and I went to Seattle to be with my wife again, and after the awaited death of her Dad we returned together to Oakland, California, and we never really talked of our time apart.
@Peelee, you may be interested in what I've spoiled 'cause I mention punk rock and motorcycles, @Anonymouswizard, you may be interested in what I've spoiled because I mention love and romance in one's twenties.
Mayhaps getting kicked out of highschool was for the best, if that's how they treat people?

The school authorized a transfer without making sure there were enough desks? If they're that incompetent than I doubt that anyone, even the people they so obviously favored, got that good of an education.

Oh boy I love vomiting the day I have to actually do a fair amount of work at work. Woo.

I'm okay it just sucks a lot!

*hugs for Zodi*

Much Suckage. You make sure not to overwork yourself.

[Bartmanhomer]

Trolls are real *sigh*. They're just another anying thing you have to live with but stay optimistic privately because why not, but don't underestimate pessimism because pessimism saves the world, that's my motto :thumbsup:

YouTube is complete garbage now. I'm used of getting trolls on Youtube everyday. Beside I really don't care anymore on that note.. :mad:

[2D8HP]

Oh boy I love vomiting the day I have to actually do a fair amount of work at work. Woo.

I'm okay it just sucks a lot!


That sounds miserable, hoping you feel better soon!


Mayhaps getting kicked out of highschool was for the best, if that's how they treat people?

The school authorized a transfer without making sure there were enough desks? If they're that incompetent than I doubt that anyone, even the people they so obviously favored, got that good of an education.


In hindsight I wish I was kicked out/tested out years earlier (I remember thinking "Is this all high school is?" after being told I passed an exit test, there was nothing that couldn't have been down at 12), not uncoincidently we pulled our then 13 year-old out of Middle School two years ago and had him take high school level classes at the local 'community-college' (what we called "high schools with ashtrays" back in the '80's) instead.

[Bartmanhomer]

So anyway I went to Duane Reade store yesterday to buy my earbuds and there was an argument between the white customers and a black employee. (Both male) The white customers told the black employee to wear a facemask but he told him I'm drinking on my break don't tell me what to do. And they were arguing back and forth. I just mind my own business and kept my mouth shut and got what I came for. :annoyed:

[Peelee]

@Peelee, you may be interested in what I've spoiled 'cause I mention punk rock and motorcycles

I do enjoy punk rock and motorcycles! Also, I agree with your friend, "working class anger" is a better term IMO.

[Bartmanhomer]

I'm the best solo D&D 3.5 gamer in history. :biggrin:

[el minster]

So anyway I went to Duane Reade store yesterday to buy my earbuds and there was an argument between the white customers and a black employee. (Both male) The white customers told the black employee to wear a facemask but he told him I'm drinking on my break don't tell me what to do. And they were arguing back and forth. I just mind my own business and kept my mouth shut and got what I came for. :annoyed:

Probably the best thing. If people want caronavirus to be over they should wear masks :annoyed:

[Bartmanhomer]

Probably the best thing. If people want coronavirus to be over they should wear masks :annoyed:

I totally agree with you on that El. Some people are so careless that they will do anything just to get sick. I'm not one of those people thank Eilistraee. I always wear a mask, use social distancing, and not get in trouble by other people.

[Civis Mundi]

I'll stop once it starts getting overly silly. By which I mean frying hotpot potatoes silly, not the relatively mild current level of dramaticness.


On the subject of food, can anybody recommend herbs that would go well with sea bass or sole? I'm trying to work out what to cook when I can finally meet up with a ladyfriend, and I'm planning some pan fried* fish with sautéed potatoes and seasonal vegetables, but I don't want to use unflavoured butter when serving the fish. I'll likely get fresh rosemary for the potatoes, so I don't want anything too overpowering, quick googling suggests chives?

The alternative would be to cook the fish in butter instead of olive oil and serve it with freshly sliced lemon, which is more what I'm used to. Then get a decent white wine to go alongside it, but avoid either of us drinking too much.

* In my mind the only true way to cook fish. Sure I've baked it occasionally, but it doesn't taste as nice.

I've always found it's hard to go wrong with simple salt and pepper. Chives are always delicious, and you could throw in something complementary but subtle, like thyme. I like to briefly sauté some crushed garlic in a mixture of oil and butter (which is usually my go-to for frying, the mixture of oil and butter is the best of both worlds) to let the flavor infuse the oil, then fry up the fish in that. My personal preference is to sear the skin so it's nice and crispy, then finish it in the oven to make sure it's cooked through. I'll usually marinate the fish for at least 15 minutes in some lemon juice (and usually the other spices/herbs I want to throw in), though not too long, or the acids will start to break down the fish. I also tend to like my meat a lot more citrus-y than most, so you might prefer to just add some lemon juice (and maybe some white wine?) to the pan, or have some slices on the side, as you suggested.

[2D8HP]

I do enjoy punk rock


FWLIW, when I got into the "scene" (around '84) it wasn't "Punk" anymore, it was "Hardcore", to illustrate the difference: the original 12XU (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FdNS4g8vOnc) from 1977, and the 1983 version by Minor Threat (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UDVBOuxknNM)

By '89 there was a reaction against "Hardcore" and in came "Fluffy Punks", and to illustrate the difference from "New Wave" here's Rachel Sweet's 1978 Cuckoo Clock (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LzzPfwuTuyQ) (so much that was "quintessentially '80's" was actually late '70's), and here the same song by MTX (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lPZeLDv-7sU) in 1990 (FWVLIW, a member of MTX was a drummer in one of the five bands that played my backyard for my 20th birthday party in 1988, a different drummer that day later became a member of "Sweet Children" which went on to some success under a different name...
I flatter myself that I helped foster "Fluffy Punk" by, among other things volunteering to dig the trench in '86 for the drain pipes of the bathrooms of the club were the bands got their start).


and motorcycles!


FWLIW, the bikes I mostly rode in that tale were a '75 Yamaha RD200, an '82 Honda CB450, a'75/'78 Honda CB550, an 81 Suzuki GS750, and an '81 Kawasaki KZ550.

Your current bike is better :smile:


Also, I agree with your friend[...]


I submit to both of your wisdom!

[Aotrs Commander]

So. I finished watching Spider-Man 2003. Omnce you got past the oddity of the animation, it wasn't bad at all, certainly better than some of the later incarnations (even the ones that genuinely at least tried to do something a bit different with him). It's a shame it only got the one season; especially as it meant that what should have been a sorta-cliffhanger ending made for an unusually... tragic end to that story, because without a continuation, it DOES have a finality to it.

After being placed under literal mind-control to push his girlfriend on a building and put her into a coma from which she might never recover, and with everyone (including MJ) turning against Spider-Man (and the culprits all blowed up due to their own stupidity while Spidey was trying to capture them, Peter Parker throws away his costume and Spider-Man is no more.

And that's the end.

No more Spider-Man in that world.

Jonah Jameson wins.

The bad guys win.

Spider-Man is gone.

They all pat themselves on the back, likely until unstopped tragedy strikes and people who should have been saved die.

It has a sort of quiet tragedy to it; a brief window into a world where Spider-Man legitimately failed.



I have sometimes wondered ruminate on what happens in-universe after a series just stops or is cut short, without a conclusion. Whether it means that afterwards, after the metaconceptual cameras stop rolling, that is just before the point where everyone dies... Would the next episode of Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors be the one where Sawboss actually manages to kill Jayce (by complete accident?) Did Megabyte just win and kill everyone in Mainframe? The time the tragedy strikes, but you can't show that to the children of another reality, so time to close the book there, before the tone changes. The hero doesn't dodge the bullet, doesn't disarm the bomb, can't quite make the macguffin work.

And here we kind of have that, by accident more than design, but no less... Unique? For that.

So, yeah. Kind of fitting, as if there's any year to be watching something like that, it's this one. It's a like a metaphor or something.

[Insane Jeenyus]

Oh no, Zodi! Take care of yourself...Having felt like doing that all day last Friday (10 July) at work, then actually doing that at home late that evening, I fell great sorrow and compassion for you. please get better. I hope you do not end in hospital like I did.

[Peelee]

Off and on all day I've been trying to remove the aluminum heat shield tubes from the heat block so I could install the all-metal hot end. It's been almost impossible to turn them either direction, but I was finally able to get it to turn reliably, despite the great pain the wrench had inflicted upon my hands. Despite failing multiple times throughout the day, I was finally able to track down a video on how to change them, and apparently they're not screwed in and can be just pulled out and the upgraded pieces inserted. Except, as evidenced by the fact that it was dang near impossible to get them to so much as rotate, they appear to be firmly entrenched and refuse to be removed from the heatblock to start with.

It's been quite a day.

[The Fury]

It's been about two months since I've been able to dream. I'm feeling a little ambivalent about it. On the one hand it's sort of sad and it feels a little like I've lost something. On the other... My last few dreams were sort of disturbing.

It's weird and hard to explain, but while the content of the dream was upsetting, I was really more upset by how I reacted in the moment. Like I reacted emotionally, but it was the wrong emotion. It left me... kind of disappointed in myself.

[LaZodiac]

Having felt like doing that all day last Friday (10 July) at work, then actually doing that at home late that evening, I fell great sorrow and compassion for you. please get better. I hope you do not end in hospital like I did.

I am feeling better. Was kinda blech today stomuch wise, but I'm good. No hospital for this work horse!


It's been about two months since I've been able to dream. I'm feeling a little ambivalent about it. On the one hand it's sort of sad and it feels a little like I've lost something. On the other... My last few dreams were sort of disturbing.

It's weird and hard to explain, but while the content of the dream was upsetting, I was really more upset by how I reacted in the moment. Like I reacted emotionally, but it was the wrong emotion. It left me... kind of disappointed in myself.

Dreams are often just your brain processing information, so I'd try not to take too much stock in it. I once dreamed Steve Buscemi played the roll of the President who also fought aliens in a laser tag suit using a grenade launcher; sometimes dreams are just weird and they strike your weird. It happens.

[DataNinja]

It's been about two months since I've been able to dream. I'm feeling a little ambivalent about it. On the one hand it's sort of sad and it feels a little like I've lost something. On the other... My last few dreams were sort of disturbing.

It's weird and hard to explain, but while the content of the dream was upsetting, I was really more upset by how I reacted in the moment. Like I reacted emotionally, but it was the wrong emotion. It left me... kind of disappointed in myself.

I have the opposite situation as you. I only really started dreaming since sometime in January. It can definitely... cause feelings. And make you wonder if you're actually okay, due to the content of them. But mostly just a lot of brief or protracted melancholy.

[Rater202]

Last night I dreamt that they'd announced that they were filming a movie based on that Twilight Prequel/Reboot things that got announced a little bit ago and suddenly I was using a shot-gun to protect a terrified Robert Pattinson from his rabid fans, who were acting like the zombies from 28 Days and demanding that he agree to come back for it.

[Lord Raziere]

Last night I dreamt that they'd announced that they were filming a movie based on that Twilight Prequel/Reboot things that got announced a little bit ago and suddenly I was using a shot-gun to protect a terrified Robert Pattinson from his rabid fans, who were acting like the zombies from 28 Days and demanding that he agree to come back for it.

Thats horrible, how did you survive? :smalltongue:

[Rater202]

Thats horrible, how did you survive? :smalltongue:

I don't know, I woke up.

...I hope that Batman Movie he's starring in does well. Pattinson's a good actor when he's not playing a role he hates and he honestly doesn't deserve to be dragged down by association with a dumpster fire written by a lunatic.

[BisectedBrioche]

I've finally finished work for the weekend (Mon/Tues are basically my actual weekend), so I'm going to be spending today roasting hazelnuts and making praline! =3

[The Fury]

I have the opposite situation as you. I only really started dreaming since sometime in January. It can definitely... cause feelings. And make you wonder if you're actually okay, due to the content of them. But mostly just a lot of brief or protracted melancholy.

I guess I'm lucky. When I was having these dreams, I woke up feeling like I had actually done something bad to someone else. The fact that in the actual dream when it was "happening," my reaction was sort of indifferent made me feel even worse after the fact.

In truth, if I'm going to have dreams like that I prefer to not dream.

[enderlord99]

Anyone seen Mauve lately?

[Bartmanhomer]

Some people are crybabies on Youtube. I'm laughing very hard about that. :biggrin:

[el minster]

Some people are crybabies on Youtube. I'm laughing very hard about that. :biggrin:

care to explain? I don't understand

[Bartmanhomer]

care to explain? I don't understand

People just don't like to hear criticism and they whine about it. :smile:

[Anonymouswizard]

Some people are crybabies on Youtube. I'm laughing very hard about that. :biggrin:

That's... not a very nice thing to do.


People just don't like to hear criticism and they whine about it. :smile:

Eh, it's complex. Giving critique is a skill, and if you think you've put a lot of effort into something criticism can hurt. And it doesn't help that the amount of effort you put into something is completely unrelated to how good it is, and too much can actually harm it.

While I don't agree with it there's a view that any negative comments should be sandwiched between positive comments. My personal view is to give suggestions for improvement alongside critique, in an attempt to kindle a desire for improvement, but it's debatable I'd they works at all.

Just saying, the problem could lie as much with you not saying it right as it does them taking it poorly

[el minster]

The sandwiching thing works alot better when combined with other ways to soften the blow like showing sincerity and using other things.

[Bartmanhomer]

That's... not a very nice thing to do.



Eh, it's complex. Giving critique is a skill, and if you think you've put a lot of effort into something criticism can hurt. And it doesn't help that the amount of effort you put into something is completely unrelated to how good it is, and too much can actually harm it.

While I don't agree with it there's a view that any negative comments should be sandwiched between positive comments. My personal view is to give suggestions for improvement alongside critique, in an attempt to kindle a desire for improvement, but it's debatable I'd they work at all.

Just saying, the problem could lie as much with you not saying it right as it does them taking it poorly

But what about honesty? If I want to watch a movie that a friend makes from scratch and if the movie is bad. I'll tell my friend the truth that the movie is bad. After all, I'm a movie critic. :confused:

[Peelee]

But what about honesty? If I want to watch a movie that a friend makes from scratch and if the movie is bad. I'll tell my friend the truth that the movie is bad. After all, I'm a movie critic. :confused:

You have received criticism for some ideas you've had on this site. Have you always reacted positively to such criticism, even when it was constructive?

[Anonymouswizard]

But what about honesty? If I want to watch a movie that a friend makes from scratch and if the movie is bad. I'll tell my friend the truth that the movie is bad. After all, I'm a movie critic. :confused:


honesty does not have to be brutalist.

[Bartmanhomer]

You have received criticism for some ideas you've had on this site. Have you always reacted positively to such criticism, even when it was constructive?

Really Peelee? Just name one example that I received criticism? :smile:

[Mystic Muse]

But what about honesty? If I want to watch a movie that a friend makes from scratch and if the movie is bad. I'll tell my friend the truth that the movie is bad. After all, I'm a movie critic. :confused:

But there are appropriate and inappropriate ways to say something is bad.

Telling your friend "here's what I think doesn't work, and some ideas that might make it work better." Is constructive criticism.

Just calling the movie bad, or criticizing bits of it without actually offering any sort of fix, or back and forth, verges on being a bully. As an example, I'd sure be a big old jerk if I went into every movie review you did and just called it bad, wouldn't I?

And lastly, if somebody isn't looking for criticism, don't give it. Sometimes people don't want their stuff to be criticized, and that's their right. Sometimes people just want to share a thing they made and have a bit of joy in having created it.

[Anonymouswizard]

Really Peelee? Just name one example that I received criticism? :smile:

I've lost count, a lot of times we asked for development on ideas or elaboration. I remember you seemed to get offended when I didn't think an RPG quiz show would work and wanted more explanation on how it would work (I'm not sure if I ever did get more explanation, it was a while ago).

[Fyraltari]

Really Peelee? Just name one example that I received criticism? :smile:

I can't tell wether this is meant as a joke.

[Bartmanhomer]

I can't tell wether this is meant as a joke.

If it blue text then it's a joke. :wink:

[Fyraltari]

Then I'll be frank, you've received a lot of honest, good-hearted criticism on this site, and you often react very defensively to it.

[Anonymouswizard]

I can't tell wether this is meant as a joke.

I've noticed that Bartmanhomer can read posts in an unusual way. I wouldn't be surprised if he's just somehow literally not viewed the fantasy epic length reams of critique as critique.


Now I have to go back to plabbing to visit some people on my August holiday.

[Fyraltari]

reams
Oooh, new word!


plabbing

And Merriam-webster doesn't know that one. Care to enlighten me?

[Peelee]

Oooh, new word!
It means 500 sheets of paper.:smalltongue:

And Merriam-webster doesn't know that one. Care to enlighten me?
I imagine a typo for "planning". But I like it better. I plab to use it in the future to replace "plan."

[Bartmanhomer]

I've lost count, a lot of times we asked for development on ideas or elaboration. I remember you seemed to get offended when I didn't think an RPG quiz show would work and wanted more explanation on how it would work (I'm not sure if I ever did get more explanation, it was a while ago).

I remember that.

[Anonymouswizard]

And Merriam-webster doesn't know that one. Care to enlighten me?

Plabbing
verb

I was writting planning while I was lying on my side
I dunno, something about ducks?

[Fyraltari]

It means 500 sheets of paper.:smalltongue:
Yes, I already got that. That's why I didn't ask clarification for that one.

[Peelee]

Yes, I already got that. That's why I didn't ask clarification for that one.

That was actually an attempt at a joke, since the specific 500 count is only regarding paper and in all other uses it simply means "a large amount".

[Bartmanhomer]

Then I'll be frank, you've received a lot of honest, good-hearted criticism on this site, and you often react very defensively to it.

Yes. That true. There was a time on this forum that I give a horrible honest review of a Marvel movie that I really dislike. So horrible that so many members was carrying pitchforks and torches trying to chase me out of town. It was the Avengers: Infinity War movie.

[Peelee]

Yes. That true. There was a time on this forum that I give a horrible honest review of a Marvel movie that I really dislike. So horrible that so many members was carrying pitchforks and torches trying to chase me out of town. It was the Avengers: Infinity War movie.

IIRC, it wasn't that the review was horribly honest, it was that the review was very generic and subjective, even as reviews go.

[Bartmanhomer]

IIRC, it wasn't that the review was horribly honest, it was that the review was very generic and subjective, even as reviews go.

Yes well if I recalled and I remember vividly: many members dislike my review of Avenger: Infinity War and one of the moderators has to lock it down. :frown:

[Peelee]

Ah. Maybe we should use another example, then.

[Mystic Muse]

Ah. Maybe we should use another example, then.

The repeated mentions that Grammarly isn't really working?

[Tvtyrant]

It's important to remember that we know our intentions are good when we say things, and not when others do. So we know we mean well and don't know that others do.

[Bartmanhomer]

But there are appropriate and inappropriate ways to say something is bad.

Telling your friend "here's what I think doesn't work, and some ideas that might make it work better." Is constructive criticism.

Just calling the movie bad, or criticizing bits of it without actually offering any sort of fix, or back and forth, verges on being a bully. As an example, I'd sure be a big old jerk if I went into every movie review you did and just called it bad, wouldn't I?

And lastly, if somebody isn't looking for criticism, don't give it. Sometimes people don't want their stuff to be criticized, and that's their right. Sometimes people just want to share a thing they made and have a bit of joy in having created it.

Yes but not everyone doesn't have to like everything just to make that person happy.

[Fyraltari]

The repeated mentions that Grammarly isn't really working?
Good one. For example:


Yes. That true. There was a time on this forum that I give a horrible honest review of a Marvel movie that I really dislike. So horrible that so many members was carrying pitchforks and torches trying to chase me out of town. It was the Avengers: Infinity War movie.
Yes. That is true. One time, on this forum, I made a horribly honest (?) review of a Marvel movie which I really dislike. It was so horrible that many forum members were carrying pitchforks and torches to chase me out of town. The movie was Avengers: Infinity War.



Yes well if I recalled and I remember vividly: many members dislike my review of Avenger: Infinity War and one of the moderators has to lock it down. :frown:
Yes, well I remember it vividly: many forum members disliked my review of Avengers: Infinity War and one of the moderators had to lock it down. :frown:

[Bartmanhomer]

Good one. For example:


Yes. That is true. One time, on this forum, I made a horribly honest (?) review of a Marvel movie which I really dislike. It was so horrible that many forum members were carrying pitchforks and torches to chase me out of town. The movie was Avengers: Infinity War.



Yes, well I remember it vividly: many forum members disliked my review of Avengers: Infinity War and one of the moderators had to lock it down. :frown:

Forget Grammarly. I need a new app to improve my proper English and grammar. :sigh:

[Peelee]

Good one. For example:


Yes. That is true. One time, on this forum, I made a horribly honest (?) review of a Marvel movie which I really dislike. It was so horrible that many forum members were carrying pitchforks and torches to chase me out of town. The movie was Avengers: Infinity War.



Yes, well I remember it vividly: many forum members disliked my review of Avengers: Infinity War and one of the moderators had to lock it down. :frown:

Even then, I'd argue a semicolon would fit better than a colon after "vividly."

[Fyraltari]

Even then, I'd argue a semicolon would fit better than a colon after "vividly."
Eh, I think that's down to indivdual preferences.

[Mystic Muse]

Yes but not everyone doesn't have to like everything just to make that person happy.

Despite my best efforts, I can't find the Neil Gaiman quote I'm looking for that would help sum things up.

You are correct. You are not required to like or dislike anything. I'm mostly just trying to say there's a time and place for criticism, and there's a difference between reasonable and unreasonable criticism. So, theoretical situation based on one of my hobbies, mini-painting.

Let's say my goal is painting Space Marine number 269 and his squad of 5 friends to a tabletop ready standard, so all that's required is 3 colors. I put on their base color, the color on their shoulder pads, the trim, various details and their weapons, totaling about 6 colors. I then send a friend a picture of the ones I've gotten done, because I like sharing things I've done with my friends.

If I do not follow it up with asking for feedback, saying "It's just okay, you should have done this, this and this though." they might be technically correct, but the critique is inappropriate here, because that's not what I'm trying to do.

It would be even less appropriate for them to say "You're garbage at this, you didn't paint micro-murals on their shoulderpads?"

I have already exceeded my original goal of tabletop ready. Telling me to do more for generic marine number 269 kind of misses the point.




Forget Grammarly. I need a new app to improve my proper English and grammar. :sigh:

You might consider taking a college writing class, or even just getting help from a friend who's good at grammar to improve your own. Ultimately, you will need something to teach you, not something to act as a crutch.

[Fyraltari]

Yes but not everyone doesn't have to like everything just to make that person happy.

Sometimes, when you don't have anything good to say, it's better not to say anything.

[Tvtyrant]

I would learn a different language, by the time you learn to speak that language you will know how to properly write English. That's because there are tons of weird rules you learn from pure imitation, and they get highlighted if you learn another language formally. For instance: "The Boy runs." Where does the S on the end of runs come from? Why isn't it "the boy run?"

[Bartmanhomer]

Despite my best efforts, I can't find the Neil Gaiman quote I'm looking for that would help sum things up.

You are correct. You are not required to like or dislike anything. I'm mostly just trying to say there's a time and place for criticism, and there's a difference between reasonable and unreasonable criticism. So, theoretical situation based on one of my hobbies, mini-painting.

Let's say my goal is painting Space Marine number 269 and his squad of 5 friends to a tabletop ready standard, so all that's required is 3 colors. I put on their base color, the color on their shoulder pads, the trim, various details and their weapons, totaling about 6 colors. I then send a friend a picture of the ones I've gotten done, because I like sharing things I've done with my friends.

If I do not follow it up with asking for feedback, saying "It's just okay, you should have done this, this and this though." they might be technically correct, but the critique is inappropriate here, because that's not what I'm trying to do.

It would be even less appropriate for them to say "You're garbage at this, you didn't paint micro-murals on their shoulderpads?"

I have already exceeded my original goal of tabletop ready. Telling me to do more for generic marine number 269 kind of misses the point.





You might consider taking a college writing class, or even just getting help from a friend who's good at grammar to improve your own. Ultimately, you will need something to teach you, not something to act as a crutch.
You're right. Good criticism is better than bad criticism. :biggrin:

[Fyraltari]

I would learn a different language, by the time you learn to speak that language you will know how to properly write English. That's because there are tons of weird rules you learn from pure imitation, and they get highlighted if you learn another language formally. For instance: "The Boy runs." Where does the S on the end of runs come from? Why isn't it "the boy run?"

I've gotta admit that "conjugation is a weird rule" is the most native english speaker thing I've read in my life.

[Aotrs Commander]

It's bad enough with everything not going on, but I seem to be spending my unlife waiting for responses, from the important to the utterly unimportant.

In order of importance: Waiting for theshop3D to fix their "technical issue" so they can put this month's release on the website so I can do my release post (after waiting ages after sending it up and finding that my last couple of emails had inexplicably gone to their spam folder - par for course). Waiting for Catalyst Labs to respond to why I'm not getting the authentication emails so I can go on the BattleTech forums (so I can ask them which PDFs I should get to get approximately up to date...). Waiting to see if I need to PM Glyphstone again come Wednesday or something to be granted offiical permission to double-post in the Bleakbane Plays thread so it doesn't just stop 75% of the way through; plus waiting for the gratefully recieved rare comments on any of the three sites I've been posting that just so as I KNOW I'm not just shouting into the void like it seems like I'm doing nothing but anymore most of the time and which is depressingly usually more feedback than I get on my actual work releases.



Edit: *eyeglow twitch* *eyeglow twitch*

Waiting for another six days before I can renew my Pokémon Bank Pass, and with the sinking feeling that it's going to be ten times more complicated that it used to be.

[Tvtyrant]

I've gotta admit that "conjugation is a weird rule" is the most native english speaker thing I've read in my life.

Yeah. It's a fun language.

[Anonymouswizard]

It still confuses me that there's a censored version of Oranges and Lemons (which I believe I can still repeat off by heart). It doesn't get that dark... okay, it does get very dark at the end, but it never seemed that dark as a kid and censoring it involves cutting the last line and as such the last rhyme. And yet people apparently don't notice anything wrong with the censored version, but think there's a problem with the fully constructed version?

Yes, some nursery rhymes are dark, and we should celebrate this. Kids like dark in the right way, I certainly did, and I don't see why we should be removing darkness just because it's obvious.

Chop chop chop chop the last one's DEAD.

For those who don't know the rhyme the last couplet is:

Here comes a candle to light you to bed
And here comes a chopper to chop off your head

[Qwertystop]

I've gotta admit that "conjugation is a weird rule" is the most native english speaker thing I've read in my life.

Yeah, there's plenty else to hate about English. Have a look at this blogpost (http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-03-20.2284.html).

[Sermil]

I would learn a different language, by the time you learn to speak that language you will know how to properly write English. That's because there are tons of weird rules you learn from pure imitation, and they get highlighted if you learn another language formally. For instance: "The Boy runs." Where does the S on the end of runs come from? Why isn't it "the boy run?"

One thing I noticed when learning Spanish is how much more they use "to have" where English would use "to be". It kept making me think of Petra from Fire Emblem and her "I have sorrow".

[Bartmanhomer]

My solo D&D 3.5 is doing great. So anyway my team have a rest and they brought a healing belt, backpack, rations, and waterskins.

[DavidSh]

It still confuses me that there's a censored version of Oranges and Lemons (which I believe I can still repeat off by heart).[/spoiler]
The final couplet is a 19th century accretion, and only makes sense in the context of the singing game. But you're saying there is a version that includes only the first half of that couple?. That is odd.

And in Derby, apparently about an annual Shrove-tide football game:
Pancakes and fritters
Say All Saints and St. Peters;
When will the ball come,
Say the bells of St. Alkmun;
At two they will throw,
Says Saint Werabo;
O! very well,
Says little Michel.

[Anonymouswizard]

The final couplet is a 19th century accretion, and only makes sense in the context of the singing game. But you're saying there is a version that includes only the first half of that couple?. That is odd.

I mean, I have nothing against evolving rhymes, it's the weird desire to remove the fun bits that annoys me.

And yes, it's not the only censored version (there are some which actually do finish the couplet), but it's the one that as far as I know gained the most traction. A number of people I went to uni with where always shocked at discovering that line (my response the first time was 'there's a line after the chopper).


Although most nursery rhymes are either dark or have farm variations. Apparently there's a version of London Bridge is Falling Down where the second verse is:
Build it up with children's souls
Children's souls
Children's souls
Build it up with children's souls
My fair lady


Maybe I should take a break from all this, and draw myself as a cat...

[Aotrs Commander]

So, just for anyone who might have seen the trailers for Thundercats Roar and thought "wow, that looks like a terrible Teen Titans Go! knock off that is an insult to the original Thundercats," do yourselves a big favour and DO NOT go back and watch the original. Just watch the intro on youtube with the cool music and cling to the illusion of nostalgia.

Do not, for the LOVE of LICHEMASTER, actually attempt to watch the original series again.

Just don't. You owe it to yourself.




Edit: Out of morbid curiosity, I went and found and watched the first double-episode of Thundercats Roar.

Yeah, honestly? Maybe its my sense of humour (I mean, TTG has me in fits on their best days), but while I'm not a big fan of the animation style... It made me laugh WAAAY to much. And the plot was coherent, and the characters showed more personality in 22 minutes than the regular show's did in a dozen episodes.

Most of all? The dumbass Lion-O thing? It's exaggerated and self-aware, but it is also ACCURATE to how he was in the original thus far. There's enough of a core there that makes me think think someone DID watch the original series before writing it and, like me, went "WOW, this is dumb crap." So, plus side, I have something I can watch for a bit when I feel like a laugh.

Probably after watching more original Thundercats.

(Also, it uses the original score, and thus also has the best bit of the original ANYWAY.)

[BisectedBrioche]

And my hazelnut brioche is made! (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1285656326375432193)

[DataNinja]

And my hazelnut brioche is made! (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1285656326375432193)
It's not bisected. I am somehow disappointed. :smalltongue:

[Qwertystop]

And my hazelnut brioche is made! (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1285656326375432193)

Looks like cinnamon rolls. Yum!

[BisectedBrioche]

Looks like cinnamon rolls. Yum!

It's basically my goto cinnamon roll recipe, but with hazelnuts added to the dough and hazelnut praline instead of cinnamon. ^_^

[Peelee]

Can't do anything with Flashforge v2 until the new pieces come in, since I cannot budge the "removable" tubes to replace with the all-metal upgrades. So, armed with the working knowledge of having taken the whole dang thing completely apart, I've revisited Flashforge v1, got a temporary fix in until I can replace the PETG tubes and maybe get another nozzle upgrade because why not, and even opened up the front-end electronics to figure out yet another issue. So, after four or five times unsuccessfully trying to load the filament and then removing the stepper motor to figure out the issue, I've finally got it loaded up, replaced the bed's old platform base (v2 is going to get a nice glass bed upgrade in the sometime in the following week!), and I've got a test print running now.

tl;dr - I AM A 3D PRINTING MASTER.

ETA: BB, those look fantastic!

[Aotrs Commander]

Can't do anything with Flashforge v2 until the new pieces come in, since I cannot budge the "removable" tubes to replace with the all-metal upgrades. So, armed with the working knowledge of having taken the whole dang thing completely apart, I've revisited Flashforge v1, got a temporary fix in until I can replace the PETG tubes and maybe get another nozzle upgrade because why not, and even opened up the front-end electronics to figure out yet another issue. So, after four or five times unsuccessfully trying to load the filament and then removing the stepper motor to figure out the issue, I've finally got it loaded up, replaced the bed's old platform base (v2 is going to get a nice glass bed upgrade in the sometime in the following week!), and I've got a test print running now.

tl;dr - I AM A 3D PRINTING MASTER.

ETA: BB, those look fantastic!

Well, at someone is is having a good week with regard to printing for once...




I have hurt myself enough today, and I'm not... Ready... To face Supergran again, so frack it, I'm going to go back to another perennial childhood favourite, the one true proper story of Robin Hood.

Maid Marian and her Merry Men.



(Which is, for those of you not forunate enough to see it in the UK in the... 90s? *checks: '89-94*m like Black Adder meets Red Dwarf for kids, right down to Tony Robinson and Danny John Jules being in it.)

[Peelee]

Well, at someone is is having a good week with regard to printing for once...
Following a bad month with regards to printing, for context on that victory.


I have hurt myself enough today, and I'm not... Ready... To face Supergran again, so frack it, I'm going to go back to another perennial childhood favourite, the one true proper story of Robin Hood.

Maid Marian and her Merry Men.



(Which is, for those of you not forunate enough to see it in the UK in the... 90s? *checks: '89-94*m like Black Adder meets Red Dwarf for kids, right down to Tony Robinson and Danny John Jules being in it.)

I know Black Adder and Red Dwarf, but not Tony Robinson or Danny John Jules.

[Aotrs Commander]

Following a bad month with regards to printing, for context on that victory.



I know Black Adder and Red Dwarf, but not Tony Robinson or Danny John Jules.

Baldrik and Cat respectively.

(Tony Robinson actually wrote Maid Marian and her Merry Men, plus he did as lot of stuff other stuff, notably Time Team, which was practically an British institution for ... crap, was it really twenty years, ye gods, it was.)

[Peelee]

Hey y'all remember this?
For those unfamiliar with the fun of owning a 3D printer....
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642211168068304896/719730840237637653/20200608_205238.jpgWell good news! I can grant you all the closure I'm so sure that none of you knew you needed, let alone wanted!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642211168068304896/735333673796239371/20200721_221244.jpg

[LaZodiac]

Yeah, honestly? Maybe its my sense of humour (I mean, TTG has me in fits on their best days), but while I'm not a big fan of the animation style... It made me laugh WAAAY to much. And the plot was coherent, and the characters showed more personality in 22 minutes than the regular show's did in a dozen episodes.


Wow, you mean that... a show everyone hated on the outset of the trailer for petty stupid reasons was... good actually once you watched it on its terms?

What a shocker. I'm so shocked. shockity shock-shocked.


And my hazelnut brioche is made! (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1285656326375432193)

This looks delicious and I want to put it in my mouth please.

[Bartmanhomer]

Well, yesterday, my supervisor called me and he said that the Air Conditioner is broken so I don't have to go to work on Wednesday. :smile:

[LaZodiac]

Funny, I had something similar happen. I wasn't able to work at all today because I couldn't remote in. Something was wrong with our temp office's internet or something.

Incidentally, I hope everyone is doing well to... day? Night? Morrow? Whenever you read this, I hope you're doing well.

[Aotrs Commander]

Wow, you mean that... a show everyone hated on the outset of the trailer for petty stupid reasons was... good actually once you watched it on its terms?

What a shocker. I'm so shocked. shockity shock-shocked.

In fairness, when I watched the trailer, it did make me snicker a couple of times. So I didn't HATE it on principal like a lot of people. I was never a huge Thundercats fan - see how Thundercats was the LAST of the 1980s cartoons I got on DVD1. I wasn't mad it wasn't another Serious Reboot (I never managed to catch more than an episode or two of the last one1.)
It just did not give the impression that it was going to be good or a good adaption of the source material, and pertinently I HAVE NOT GOTTEN OVER REBOOT GUARDIANS YET and that's a pretty deep scar.

But? I stand by my assessment, the animation style/aethetic I think is bad; I REALLY don't like that style. And in animation, if I don't like the art style, you have to work PRETTY FREAKING HARD (and it usually takes sheer desparation) to make me watch something if I don't like it (see Adventure Time as a classic example) Thundercats Roar succeeded despite it, due to direction (if not art design), dialogue and voice-acting delivery (though only to a certain level, it's not Supper-Telly Quality); and I suspect it did so because of the push that while the original shows was... Had a... better artstyle? Kinda? Eehhh? It fell flat in every other respect and I was like, "oh, wait, right, the original source material was largely complete dog-poop, so why WOULD they be faithful to that if they'd actually watched it?" So had I not just finished hurting myself watching four episodes of that, I would not have been as receptive to it, because there was no possible way it could have been WORSE from what was shown on the trailer.

(I still have not tried watching Sun/Moon, because I hate Ash's redesign THAT MUCH, but I might be trying after I finish Is It Wrong To Pick Up Girls In A Dungeon.

Better Than Thundercats.

...

Actually, now I think about it, I'm starting to see why critics have such a hard time defining the worst, because is Thundercats actually better than the failed shows of Can Bleakbane Stand More Than Two Episodes Theatre? I'm afraid the answer is probably no, (they bored me but didn't cause me actual pain to watch; okay, maybe that Saint Seiya one did) but unlike those shows, me or a family member paid good money for Thundercats, so it behooves me to watch it.

...

Lichemaster, it's going to take YEARS. 128 episodes! Ye gods, that's three DVd volumes of Naruto and how long did it take me to get to the end of that and I was watching that nine episodes a week...

I mean, 128 episodes. They HAVE to get better, right? RIGHT? I mean, there two five parters at the start of season two... I mean, sure MASK and Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors basically sucked all the way through, but MASK got very slightly better in the last 13 episodes when theyh dropped the formula and Jayce... Okay Jayce was still hot garbage at the very end, but they killed a character in the last episode so... Maybe if they had a season two it would not have been as horrificlly a total waste of potential that out of every 1980s cartoon show is crying out for a modern reboot (NOT LIKE REBOOT'S REBOOT, THOUGH.)



Though, fair cop, I do keep forgetting that People Can't Make Good Trailers 99% of the time. After every time I look at a trailer and think something looks awful and don't watch it (see Naruto) until I run across it in desparation, you'd think I would learn. But then I think "y'know, maybe the people that make trailers would, instead, at some point LEARN TO BE GOOD AT THEIR JOB."

If your trailer actively puts me off your show/movie, that's on you. That's YOUR failure in marketing. If you advertise a product and make me think "wow that looks like a pile of crap," you failed at your one job, didn't you?

But even fricking MCU only gets it right, like 75% of the time (the absoutely dreadful-looking first trailer for Captain Marvel, looking at you very specifically, ye gods people, the moment I saw her Brie Larson actually showing Carol's character, and literally her first line of the movie had me take to her INSTANTLY and become my new favourite Avenger. How the FRACK could you have got that so badly wrong in the first trailer?)



(But after the Equestria Girls disaster where I swore up and down that DHX couldn't make a purse out of a sow's ear and had to eat my helmet, I reserved judgement on Pony Life until I actually watched a couple of episodes and it was likewise "fine.")



1Okay, yes, I do not have Visionaries, but that's been on my wishlist for years and it was at stupid prices when I started. Oh, and not Pole Position either, but they only made six episodes of that and I only remember it was about cars and because Shuki Levy is basically the best cartoon-theme-writer in history and it's a crying tragedy his level of art is almost entirely lost in the latter age. I mean, outside of anime we have, what, Miraculous and She-Ra being pretty okay musically and before that we're going back to Ironman Armoured Adventures, the FIRST season of Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes and Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.


1This is because there is only two ways to watch a cartoon on British Children's Telly: Buy The DVD or It Is On Netflix in more recent years. Because of the crappy, crappy way they treat the shows (show all episodes one per day for x-amount of time in order, repeat in random order ad finiteum until the series finishes and then stop), it is almsot IMPOSSIBLE to watch something with a plot. You wouldn't BELIEVE the amount of work I had to try and put in to record W.i.t.c.h and BattleTech back in the day and I only really mostly succeeded with the former (and even THEN I lost one episode because there was a recording failure and because it was the thrid episode before the season finale, I never caught it again). For DECADES, I only had the first half of Star Fleet and the penultimate episode, because the time they started showing it, they just stopped half-way through and then I only caught the one episode by pure change.

You guys in the US complain about the death of Toonami and such; well, we never HAD that, ever. There was ONE SUMMER, during the time JLU and Pokémon Advanced Battle's first season was being shown, where they seemed to actually be making some attempt at it, as at the end of the week, they did a catch-up where they showed all that week's new episodes back-to-back in the evening. And that got dropped VERY quickly.

I cannot state enough how bad it is.

Steven Universe? Star and the Forces of Evil? Never seen more than random episodes, all out of order. (And, of COURSe, Netflix only has the first season of the former, so there's zero point making the effort, else that would at least have been Cleaning The Room Telly. FRACK, even when we get streaming services, we only ever get half the ruddy show. I'm pretty sure we only ever got the first 12-13 episodes of ANY children's cartoon in the 1980s, to be honest, because I found on my various rewatching that the stuff I remembered petered out after that and everything else was entirely new or something that I'd seen on a lazy 2-3 episodes video release a few years later.)

And then there's Disney, which DOES produce som good stuff, but refuses to release it on DVD in boxed sets and sits on it like a dragon on its hoard, because apparently - just like the whole regioning crap whereby I have to buy more than half my DVDs from the US or Europe - OR AUSTRALIA - because they would would rather retain the possibility of trying to rip me off in the future than take my money now and releasing stuff in the UK (and even when they do, they often make a PATHETIC effort; I bitterly regretted buying the first season of Frienship is Magic UK and not US, because it was actually cheaper to buy the US versions and to pour salt in the wound, the US release had better production values, like ACTUALLY HAVING A LIST OF EPISODES IN THE CASE SOMEWHERE and did this clever thing were they actually put them in RIGHT ORDER, where the UK releases had just slapped the cash-grab compilation episodes (and that's another vile practise) into a single set and just shrugged, because apparently no-one GAVE a flying crap.

I'm kind of astounded I was able to get the entirity of Naruto on UK DVD, to be honest, it's the one time a UK release had, like, rolled a natural 20.



Apparently, I really needed a rant today.

[LaZodiac]

I am glad to have facilitated that, since if you had all those words in you you probably needed them out.

It's okay to not like the art style of a thing, some friends of mine are never going to watch Mob Psycho 100 which is a show that I know for a fact would knock all of their socks off, because the animation kinda creeps them out. It's just an unfortunate reality of the situation. I think Thundercats Roar is very cute looking personally, but to each their own.

It's just also important to have a reminder that "not a fan of this art style" is a very like, super small thing and should not lead to Angry Video Game Nerd style explosions of expletives. I know you haven't done that, but I see it a worryingly large amount, and basically always pointed at shows that surprise are extremely ****ing good, like Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[Bartmanhomer]

Funny, I had something similar happen. I wasn't able to work at all today because I couldn't remote in. Something was wrong with our temp office's internet or something.

Incidentally, I hope everyone is doing well to... day? Night? Morrow? Whenever you read this, I hope you're doing well.
Oh I'm doing well. Thank you for asking. Anyway I woke up at 10:30 AM this morning. Took a shower, eat oatmeal, uploading Youtube videos and right now I'm watching classic TV shows. :smile:

[Sermil]

It's really weird to have a thread title with my username in it. I keep thinking people are trying to address me.

[LaZodiac]

It's really weird to have a thread title with my username in it. I keep thinking people are trying to address me.

That's the dark, secret consequence of taking on the lofty burden of making the silly fun place everyone talks in.

Also today I made alfredo sauce... in part because if I didn't the pasta I'd just started cooking would have no sauce at all and that just won't do. The end result was pretty great actually! (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Edkqq_PWkAAoENN?format=jpg&name=medium)

I'll be honest, the past couple months have been stressful what with all this stuff going on in my life, but also pretty good. Book's getting good reviews, my cooking skill is increasing, my health is getting better... all in all, things are looking up for me. I hope I can share all that with you all.

[DataNinja]

It's really weird to have a thread title with my username in it. I keep thinking people are trying to address me.
You brought this upon yourself. :smallwink:

But, yeah, stuff like that can get weird. Tends to happen more with me in chats where 'data' is brought up while I'm skimming stuff, and I think "Ah, what did I do?" :smalltongue:

[Mith]

It's really weird to have a thread title with my username in it. I keep thinking people are trying to address me.

Considering that this is conversation thread, that impression isn't that wrong...

[Peelee]

You brought this upon yourself. :smallwink:

But, yeah, stuff like that can get weird. Tends to happen more with me in chats where 'data' is brought up while I'm skimming stuff, and I think "Ah, what did I do?" :smalltongue:

Are you saying you finally made Lt. Cmdr.?

[Bartmanhomer]

It's really weird to have a thread title with my username in it. I keep thinking people are trying to address me.

Why did you think of that? Nobody didn't even mention your name as far as I know.

[DataNinja]

Are you saying you finally made Lt. Cmdr.?
And there's the Star Trek reference. I genuinely hadn't connected the dots there when choosing the name, at least until I first got the reference made. I mean, I probably should have, but I am not a smart woman. :smalltongue:

[Bartmanhomer]

So anyway my solo D&D 3.5 is going very well. My team went to the church of Heironeous and talk to the male human cleric Zachary about the devils and the devil-worshipping Asmodeus cult. Zachary was very helpful with the information. There was no fighting just to let everybody know. it was a great session.

[Anonymouswizard]

Anybody got advice on how to find online groups who can feel with a strange and somewhat flexible schedule? Because I can only play most Mondays and Saturdays, or most Sundays and Fridays if late evening UK time.

[Bartmanhomer]

Anybody got advice on how to find online groups who can feel with a strange and somewhat flexible schedule? Because I can only play most Mondays and Saturdays, or most Sundays and Fridays if late evening UK time.

Gee, I don't know about that. :confused:

[Aotrs Commander]

Ha. 2020 is clearly feeling it hasn't been pain enough, since the washing machine is now malfuctioning.



On the other hand haha, up yours 2020; I hated that washing machine, so Dad put me in charge of the determining the new one (which should, at least, be coming Sunday), and thus if I hate it, it's my own fault this time. Also, its bigger, so that's good.

[Bartmanhomer]

Ha. 2020 is clearly feeling it hasn't been pain enough since the washing machine is now malfunctioning.



On the other hand haha, up yours 2020; I hated that washing machine, so Dad put me in charge of determining the new one (which should, at least, becoming Sunday), and thus if I hate it, it's my own fault this time. Also, it's bigger, so that's good.

2020 doesn't get any better than that. :tongue:

[Rater202]

Who here remembers the childhood game "telephone?" Or Chinese whispers, to use the kind of racist original name.

My first experience was in the first or second grade when I was in the "behavioral problems" classes(which were in the same room as the special ed classes, incidentally) where the Teacher made us play it and then yelled at us becuase the message was different at the end than at the beginning, then made us do it again with everyone knowing the original message.

Because of course a dozen children between the ages of six and eight who have problems ranging from being delusional to personality disorders to autism to clinical retardation are going to be able to keep a message straight between them.

Bonus points: The starting message was a compliment for the kid at the end, who was the only "normal" kid in the room.

[Aotrs Commander]

Who here remembers the childhood game "telephone?" Or Chinese whispers, to use the kind of racist original name.

My first experience was in the first or second grade when I was in the "behavioral problems" classes(which were in the same room as the special ed classes, incidentally) where the Teacher made us play it and then yelled at us becuase the message was different at the end than at the beginning, then made us do it again with everyone knowing the original message.

Because of course a dozen children between the ages of six and eight who have problems ranging from being delusional to personality disorders to autism to clinical retardation are going to be able to keep a message straight between them.

Bonus points: The starting message was a compliment for the kid at the end, who was the only "normal" kid in the room.

I never liked that game.

Actually, I never liked a lot of those sort of games, though the one I found most personally affronting and flat-refused to play ever was that silly one where you roll a dice or something and if you roll a six you have to put clothes (like a shawl or gloves or something) on and attempt to eat a piece of chocolate or something with a knife and fork before the next person did.

Yes, I am exactly as much fun at parties, then as now, as you're thinking, why does this surprise you?

(Somewhere, someone has to visibly restrain Pinkie Pie.)

It should not come as a surprise then, that the most wildly successful game played at one of MY parties (before my parties became Roleplaying Sessions) was Dad hiding all my Action Force toys about the house and sending us all on recon to report on where they were, and then tell us we were dead, because nobody had spotted the COBRA F.A.N.G parked on top of the cooker fume extractor above eye level.



Okay, I didn't mind Wink Murder too much, but, I mean, it literally has murder in the name, what's not to like?

[Anonymouswizard]

Who here remembers the childhood game "telephone?" Or Chinese whispers, to use the kind of racist original name.

My first experience was in the first or second grade when I was in the "behavioral problems" classes(which were in the same room as the special ed classes, incidentally) where the Teacher made us play it and then yelled at us becuase the message was different at the end than at the beginning, then made us do it again with everyone knowing the original message.

Because of course a dozen children between the ages of six and eight who have problems ranging from being delusional to personality disorders to autism to clinical retardation are going to be able to keep a message straight between them.

I mean, I remember playing it at school (under the original name) quite a bit in groups of thirty, the point is to teach that messages get garbled in communication. You intentionally make the phrase hard to hear and work under the assumption that somebody is going to change it intentionally, you've probably had changes by the third repetition. I actually enjoyed the game, fun to try to predict the twists. It's probably the game we played at school with the best life lesson, even if 'Abigail is a smelly girl that nobody likes' never got through to the end or amused the teacher (not an actual example that happened, but at least one was on the same level).

Did you have any competent teachers at that school?


Bonus points: The starting message was a compliment for the kid at the end, who was the only "normal" kid in the room.

That... I assume the teacher came up with that? Because if one of the kids comes up with it it's nice and sweet, but I suspect it was the teacher trying to tell you of by proxy :smallmad:

I'm going back to my fried chicken, I'm not looking forward to cleaning the wok later on.

[Rater202]

Unrelated: In my junior year of high school, I find out that my paternal grandmother has cancer. She was elderly and a life-long chain smoker(with a family history of both cancer and chain-smoking) so it's not surprising.

she lived pretty much on the far side of the country from me, so in the summers my mother flies down to see her(mom knew my Dad's family from the time she was a kid, my Aunt is still Mom's best friend,) but I can't go becuase I was in summer school(knocking out two mandatory classes.)

Mom calls back on Thursday of that week, I ask how Grandma's doing, Mom refuses to answer, so I spend the next few days worried until my mom gets home and when I prompt her to answer, explains that she'd passed early Thursday morning.

At the time I was mad at mom for not telling me when I first asked at the time, but she had a reason even if her reasoning was wrong so other than occasional teasing her over it I'm not really that upset anymore.

I tell you that story so I can tell you this: My elderly, chain-smoking grandma. The grandma who was such an addict that she was smoking in front of her own son when he was dying of cancer and was trying to quit to improve his odds... Beat the Cancer.

She beat the cancer and then shortly after passed from unrelated complications.

It's been about a decade and I still have to wonder what kind of Final Destination Bull**** was going on.

[The Fury]

You know, sometimes cancer seems to play out like some awful mean-spirited melodrama.

[enderlord99]

In Russia, "y" sound like you!

[Rater202]

I almost died in freshmen chemistry in college.

The chemistry was divided into a lecture that was all four classes in a giant lecture hall and then the labs would be scheduled for different points later that day in more manageable sizes, handled by like, a TA or lab instructor instead of the actual professor in charge of the course.

I am in a group by myself, because I happened to sit at a lab desk that no one else sat at, and thus had to do most labs alone, so I don't really get around o the actual lab as the pre-work on this one is intensive, and becuase there's an error on the lab sheet that didn' get cought in time and so everyone else takes a great excess of one of the substances we're working with.

Detailed instructions were given for how to dispose of the products of the lab and any excess starting reagents. A group of girls who had messed up even more than anyone else were told to just start disposing of the materials(not yet reacted to) and they ignored the detailed instructions and just dumped all of the materials into the one disposal jar, causing a reaction that produced some kind of purple gas that we were all told would have killed everyone in the room if the fume hood hadn't been turned on as a precaution.

The girls joked about it and got pissy and blamed the instructor for telling them to dispose of their materials when people called them out and the actual professor came in, failed everyone for the mistake, and explicitly said that we "all" screwed up when I pointed out it that the group of two girlrl'ss stupidity that almost killed everyone.

It was at that point that I stopped working, becuase I'm not gonna finish an assignment I preemptively failed.

(Happy ending, the instructor apparently explained what actually happened to the instructor and everyone was unfailed, and the group at the next table over let me copy their data since I never did actually get todo the lab.)

[LaZodiac]

I almost died in freshmen chemistry in college.

The chemistry was divided into a lecture that was all four classes in a giant lecture hall and then the labs would be scheduled for different points later that day in more manageable sizes, handled by like, a TA or lab instructor instead of the actual professor in charge of the course.

I am in a group by myself, because I happened to sit at a lab desk that no one else sat at, and thus had to do most labs alone, so I don't really get around o the actual lab as the pre-work on this one is intensive, and becuase there's an error on the lab sheet that didn' get cought in time and so everyone else takes a great excess of one of the substances we're working with.

Detailed instructions were given for how to dispose of the products of the lab and any excess starting reagents. A group of girls who had messed up even more than anyone else were told to just start disposing of the materials(not yet reacted to) and they ignored the detailed instructions and just dumped all of the materials into the one disposal jar, causing a reaction that produced some kind of purple gas that we were all told would have killed everyone in the room if the fume hood hadn't been turned on as a precaution.

The girls joked about it and got pissy and blamed the instructor for telling them to dispose of their materials when people called them out and the actual professor came in, failed everyone for the mistake, and explicitly said that we "all" screwed up when I pointed out it that the group of two girlrl'ss stupidity that almost killed everyone.

It was at that point that I stopped working, becuase I'm not gonna finish an assignment I preemptively failed.

(Happy ending, the instructor apparently explained what actually happened to the instructor and everyone was unfailed, and the group at the next table over let me copy their data since I never did actually get todo the lab.)

... how the **** do these things happen why would there ever be a situation where students are given chemicals that when mixed will kill everyone WHY IS THAT EVEN A THING?!?!

I'm glad things got sorted but what the ****.

[Fyraltari]

... how the **** do these things happen why would there ever be a situation where students are given chemicals that when mixed will kill everyone WHY IS THAT EVEN A THING?!?!

I'm glad things got sorted but what the ****.

That’s why the fume hood is for as well as the protective gear and the detailed instructions.

There’s very little chemistry to be done if you only use materials that are completely safe even when mishandled.

[Aotrs Commander]

Apparently, they were in dire need of my A-level chemistry teacher, who always used to start every experiment with "treat all chemicals as deadly poisonous" as part of his briefing.

He was one of those really good teachers, the sort of whom I've been lucky enough to come across more than once.

("Start by writing down the equation that gives you the answer" was one of his other favourites.)

[Peelee]

... how the **** do these things happen why would there ever be a situation where students are given chemicals that when mixed will kill everyone WHY IS THAT EVEN A THING?!?!

I'm glad things got sorted but what the ****.

They start with the assumption that college-level students will have even the smallest modicum of sensibility.

They then guard against college-level students not having even the smallest modicum of sensibility by having detailed instructions on how to conduct the experiment, requiring lab-appropriate clothing, requiring lab-appropriate safety gear, requiring the lab be outfitted with fume hoods that are in use during appropriate experiments, requiring chemical showers, etc. etc.

Further, we're assuming that the gas would indeed have killed everyone. This sounds like a pretty large lab, and the concentration and dispersal rates are unknown. Even if this was a lethal gas (possible, I'm not ready to discount that), and even if the fume hoods were not turned on or properly functioning (which would be a massive liability for the university), and even if it went unnoticed and the entire lab remained exactly where they were for the entire lab period without evacuating, I find it hard to believe it would still be potent enough to kill everyone in the room. More likely than not this was a hyperbole on the TA's part to make the kids pay more attention to the dang lab. Maybe it could kill everyone in the room in the absolute worst-case scenario that would require practically every possible failsafe they had - including the common sense of every person in the room to not react to an unknown purple gas - to occur.

[SZbNAhL]

Sounds to me like they mixed an iodide with an oxidiser and released iodine gas. You really don't want to inhale iodine gas, although it's far from the "kill you dead in seconds" camp.

As for where the fault lies, any practical task designed for undergraduates, especially in US-style universities where students who aren't necessarily studying chemistry often end up taking chemistry classes*, should come with a pre-lab activity to make sure that they've read and understood the lab manual. There will always be at least one stupid/lazy student and safety procedures should be sufficient to ensure that they either understand what they're doing or get filtered out before they're allowed near anything remotely dangerous.

Also, Rater, between this and your elementary school horror stories I'm beginning to think that you're somehow mystically attracting bad educators. Did your mother piss off a very specialised witch while pregnant or something?

*Which I maintain is a stupid system, but I can only sit on one pedagogic high horse at once and if I try to change mid-stream it'll bolt before I shut the stable door.

[Rater202]

Sounds to me like they mixed an iodide with an oxidiser and released iodine gas. You really don't want to inhale iodine gas, although it's far from the "kill you dead in seconds" camp.Considering that it was five minutes before anyone notice that the fume hood was half-full despite being on and that the gas continued to be produced in a lab that had enough room for six groups of four students for another five minutes?

(The printing error on the lab sheet was a 1000 times multiplication of reagents due to a type in units. There was a lot of excess that was improperly disposed of.)


As for where the fault lies, any practical task designed for undergraduates, especially in US-style universities where students who aren't necessarily studying chemistry often end up taking chemistry classes*, should come with a pre-lab activity to make sure that they've read and understood the lab manual. There will always be at least one stupid/lazy student and safety procedures should be sufficient to ensure that they either understand what they're doing or get filtered out before they're allowed near anything remotely dangerous.

We had a lecture explaining exactly how to dispose of the materials and a pre-lab activity to make sure we knew what to do.

Trust me, these two girls were in the midway point where a Heather starts metamorphosing into a Karen and...

Look, they did worse than I did and that was the year that the financial aid department lied to me abut how many classes I needed to keep my scholarship so I had to reschedual at the last minute to takes third again as many classes as I was supposed to with a super creative schedule and barely any time to get work done and get sufficient sleep.

You know what sucks? Having three hours between classes but no assignments that can be worked on from the library.

[Anonymouswizard]

Sounds to me like they mixed an iodide with an oxidiser and released iodine gas. You really don't want to inhale iodine gas, although it's far from the "kill you dead in seconds" camp.

As for where the fault lies, any practical task designed for undergraduates, especially in US-style universities where students who aren't necessarily studying chemistry often end up taking chemistry classes*, should come with a pre-lab activity to make sure that they've read and understood the lab manual. There will always be at least one stupid/lazy student and safety procedures should be sufficient to ensure that they either understand what they're doing or get filtered out before they're allowed near anything remotely dangerous.

Also, Rater, between this and your elementary school horror stories I'm beginning to think that you're somehow mystically attracting bad educators. Did your mother piss off a very specialised witch while pregnant or something?

*Which I maintain is a stupid system, but I can only sit on one pedagogic high horse at once and if I try to change mid-stream it'll bolt before I shut the stable door.

I mean, my knowledge of Chemistry basically extends to 'it's the thing that makes the boom boom materials', but I do remember dealing with High Voltage labs at uni.

These were the labs Electrical Engineering students weren't allowed into when the lab wasn't scheduled, the only bared were those required for the computers to functionor, in a section behind a second airlock, those required for some third year labs, and you spent most of it playing with dials.

Yeah, considering the tight control over getting and returning components in the other labs (and I once managed to fry about four chips in quick succession during my Final Year Project, and I'm still surprised they let the dyspraxic student near the soldering irons), I'm shocked that there was neither a pre-lab drill or tightermonitoring of how people disposed of stuff.

And while I don't get a lot about the US university system, particularly how they seem to do half their A-levels there, I do think poaching the idea of Majors and Minors would be great. I'd have loved to minor in something like Literature or Games Design alongside Engineering. Just avoid this idea of being able to take random elective classes or things aboutside your chosen subjects.

[Peelee]

Also, Rater, between this and your elementary school horror stories I'm beginning to think that you're somehow mystically attracting bad educators.

Agreed, especially if the professor walked into the room and declared they would all fail the lab. I can't even imagine a professor doing that unless a class had just gone completely off the rails.

[Rater202]

Agreed, especially if the professor walked into the room and declared they would all fail the lab. I can't even imagine a professor doing that unless a class had just gone completely off the rails.

The professor was actually okay other than this one incident. She apparently thought that everyone screwed up instead of just following misleading instructions and reversed the decision when the TA explained it was only the two girls that messed up i a way that could be blamed on them instead of whoever wrote the lab sheet.

And no, I asked my mom and she didn't piss off any school witches 27 years ago, so... Yeah.

[The Fury]

do you ever get cravings for stuff you're not supposed to have? In my case, I stopped dining out and quit drinking for a while so I can save money. Now I really want to eat an irresponsibly large burger with pint of beer. I've been good so far, but dang I want it...

[2D8HP]

do you ever get cravings for stuff you're not supposed to have?

Only most hours.

In my case, I stopped dining out and quit drinking for a while so I can save money. Now I really want to eat an irresponsibly large burger with pint of beer. I've been good so far, but dang I want it...

And now I do too!

I also gave up alcohol back in February for thing I give up stuff for awhile that time of year...

...and then "shelter-in-place" was ordered and since I have a rule not to drink in front of my wife and her sons, and the law forbids it in my car or in public, and now that all "in-dining" is closed, that leaves - nowhere for me to drink alcohol, well a few outdoor sitting places opened last month, but I'm scared of being close to unmasked folks, less from getting sick myself than bringing the new plague home (which I already worry about 'cause of work).

[factotum]

I mean, my knowledge of Chemistry basically extends to 'it's the thing that makes the boom boom materials', but I do remember dealing with High Voltage labs at uni.

These were the labs Electrical Engineering students weren't allowed into when the lab wasn't scheduled, the only bared were those required for the computers to functionor, in a section behind a second airlock, those required for some third year labs, and you spent most of it playing with dials.


And then they get into the working world, where they'll have you changing out live connectors on a high-voltage motor test rig using your bare hands. (Yes, this actually happened to me while I was on summer jobs during holidays at university--to be fair, the company in question required you to ensure the resistance of your shoe soles was decent before they let you do stuff like that, because if there's no path to ground the current won't pass through you).

[enderlord99]

My (remaining) dog has lung cancer and is scheduled to be euthanized in under 6 hours.

[Aotrs Commander]

My (remaining) dog has lung cancer and is scheduled to be euthanized in under 6 hours.

Sorry to here that; my condolences.



2020 just doesn't want to quit kicking people, does it?

[Bartmanhomer]

My (remaining) dog has lung cancer and is scheduled to be euthanized in under 6 hours.

Oh no. Poor doggie. I'm so sorry to hear that. :frown:

[Rater202]

Sorry to here that; my condolences.



2020 just doesn't want to quit kicking people, does it?

Let's see, a global pandemic that was supposed to be relatively minor if you weren't in the "at-risk" group that didn't get the memo complete with an army of sovereign citizens and aren't coming out of the woodwork to actively refuse/sabotage all reasonable saft measures and conspiracy nuts spreading bullcrap and the plague in equal amounts.

A bunch of stuff related to that that I can't get into becuase of forum rules.

Pretty much anything bad that could happen does happen to a lot of people.

The planet's on fire.

There's a new Twilight Novel coming out.

Yep, 2020 doesn't know when to stop.

Remember 2016? When people were seeing evil clowns everywhere and we never got an explanation for it? Can we go back to that? I felt safer when that was happening.

[Cazero]

There's a new Twilight Novel coming out.*shrieks*
Just kidding. Like the pandemic, it can't hurt me if I'm not exposed to it.

[Aotrs Commander]

Let's see, a global pandemic that was supposed to be relatively minor if you weren't in the "at-risk" group that didn't get the memo complete with an army of sovereign citizens and aren't coming out of the woodwork to actively refuse/sabotage all reasonable saft measures and conspiracy nuts spreading bullcrap and the plague in equal amounts.

A bunch of stuff related to that that I can't get into becuase of forum rules.

Pretty much anything bad that could happen does happen to a lot of people.

The planet's on fire.

There's a new Twilight Novel coming out.

Yep, 2020 doesn't know when to stop.

Remember 2016? When people were seeing evil clowns everywhere and we never got an explanation for it? Can we go back to that? I felt safer when that was happening.

And 2020 doesn't do just the big stuff, though does it? Not just all that and loads of people dying for completely unrelated reasons, no, it ensures that even the most trivial of details are completely bad.

Right down to stuff like "inexplicably can't get emails from Catalyst Labs to get on the BattleTech forums because they don't even know why, but can from the store, everyone is equally baffled."

No, 2020 has spent the effort to go just that little bit further, so that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to escape anything without its misery being inflicted on everyone, no matter who, when, why, where and how.

[Peelee]

My (remaining) dog has lung cancer and is scheduled to be euthanized in under 6 hours.

Oh jeez, that's rough. I'm sorry.

[Rater202]

Did you ever get that "explore other universes" thing down, Bleakbane?

Becuase I'd like to go hide in the Marvel universe for a few months. "Fascists governments, regular alien invasions, and giant robots regularly commit genocide" is preferable to the world as it is now.

[BisectedBrioche]

I got my hair done for the first time since March. (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1287765858689982465)

[Anonymouswizard]

I got my hair done for the first time since March. (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1287765858689982465)

Why is this forum filled with people who are clearly poorly disguised models? :smalltongue:

And I've not had my hair done in about ten months, but that's intentional *swooshes hair*


So I was planning to maybe pick up a Swiitch Liite to play with on my week and a half's holiday starting this weekend, but even secondhand units cost £190! How am I meant to afford that, I know my paycheck has just come in but most of that will be going straight back out soon.