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Raishoiken
2020-07-30, 05:58 AM
any methods out there not including addy weapons?
Asmotherion
2020-07-30, 08:05 AM
Hit really hard I guess?
If you want to be more specific, maybe we can figure out something.
The Shatter spell comes to mind.
Also Dark Speach is cool like that.
Martial Study (mountain hammer), or do an initiator dip at level 5 (any, all of them have access to Stone Dragon).
theboss
2020-07-30, 08:18 AM
Stone dragon discipline from ToB has a lot of Manoeuvres (if not all of them) that grant 1 attack of ignoring DR or hardness and adding damage.
Heavenblade
2020-07-30, 10:37 AM
Strength devotion does this a couple minutes a day if you get turn undead (or one if you dont)
Buufreak
2020-07-30, 10:54 AM
What's that star metal that is effectively adamantine but better?
What's that star metal that is effectively adamantine but better?
Metalline, I think? But TC wanted something that was 'not including addy weapons', so unless it's a spell or ability that turns your business metalline/whatever it is, it's probably not what he wants (just guessing atm, not sure).
Vaern
2020-07-30, 11:12 AM
I think there's a feat somewhere that lets you make a concentration check instead of using strength for breaking things, if you wanted to make a break check instead of relying on pure damage. Not able to look it up at the moment though, unfortunately.
unseenmage
2020-07-30, 11:12 AM
Polymorph the material into a zero hardness material.
Disintegrate.
Rust attacks vs Metals.
Stone to Flesh or Stone to Mud on stone objects.
Sonic damage.
Sphere of Annihilation.
Underdark has the Annihilator, basically a disintegrating greater rust monster IIRC.
Tear a hole to the Far Realm. Hardness will be ignored as it will become the least of one's problems.
Troacctid
2020-07-30, 11:27 AM
Corruption domain granted ability.
Buufreak
2020-07-30, 11:56 AM
Metalline, I think? But TC wanted something that was 'not including addy weapons', so unless it's a spell or ability that turns your business metalline/whatever it is, it's probably not what he wants (just guessing atm, not sure).
Negative. Metalline I think is the ability to give your weapon whatever properties you need at the time. I'm talking an actual material that I seem to remember has something to do with classes like green star adept. It's literally just called star metal.
Also who is TC?
Psyren
2020-07-30, 11:57 AM
Sonic damage is the big one, particularly from psionics which is able to nova on sonic powers for a very hard hit.
Negative. Metalline I think is the ability to give your weapon whatever properties you need at the time. I'm talking an actual material that I seem to remember has something to do with classes like green star adept. It's literally just called star metal.
Also who is TC?
Thread Creator/Topic Creator.
The starmetal described on p.141 of Complete Arcane's just "Adamantine, and also +1d6 damage to extraplanar creatures."
Buufreak
2020-07-30, 12:20 PM
Thread Creator/Topic Creator.
The starmetal described on p.141 of Complete Arcane's just "Adamantine, and also +1d6 damage to extraplanar creatures."
So, explicitly not adamantine. In fact, an improvement.
...oh, THAT'S what was meant by 'addy weapons'. I didn't understand, I thought TC meant 'additional weapon properties.'
Yeah, if it's explicitly adamantine that's the issue, starmetal does the same stuff and is not that material.
Troacctid
2020-07-30, 12:46 PM
Some feats: Combat Engineer, Find Flaw, Focused Sunder, Fragile Construct, Nature's Fists, Ruinous Rage, Sense Weakness, Shards of Granite, Strength Devotion.
Asmotherion
2020-07-30, 04:21 PM
Also a Weapon with the Metaline weapon engancment can briefly become Adamantine, and then revert back; If that counts, it's up to you.
ShurikVch
2020-07-30, 05:32 PM
Classes:
Cleric - Destruction domain, Improved Domain Power (Dragon #342): For 1 round, all of the Cleric’s natural & manufactured weapons are treated as being Adamantine for purposes of overcoming Damage Reduction and/or Hardness. Activated as a Free Action. Usable (Cleric level) rounds per day.
Divine Mind - Destruction mantle: for allies withing your aura, hardness during sunder attempts is halved
Paladin 4, Noble Heart sub. level (Champions of Valor) - Sunder the Sadistic: attack on object which belongs to Loviatar's worshiper - or a part of structure dedicated to Loviatar - ignores hardness
Rogue 10 - Saboteur special ability (Dragon #326): for sundering or attacking objects, ignore amount of hardness equal to half of your Rogue levels
PrC:
Acolyte of the Fist 4 (Dragon #296) - Fist of Destruction: subtracts class levels from the hardness of the object
Cataclysm Mage 6 (Explorer's Handbook) - Cataclysm of Dreams (Sp): Any structures within the area take 75 points of damage; hardness does not reduce this damage, nor is it halved as damage dealt to objects normally is
Cipher 1 (Dragon #287) - Locate Weakness: at full attack action, on Concentration check (DC 10 + object’s hardness) ignore the object's hardness that round
Cipher Adept (Planar Handbook) - Strike the Weak Spot: as a standard action, on hit with Concentration check (DC 10 + object’s hardness) ignore the object's hardness for this attack
Doomlord 1/5/10 (Planar Handbook) - Entropic Blow: limited times/day (up to 3), this blow would ignore hardness (and DR of Constructs or Undead)
Entropomancer 1 (Complete Divine) - Shard of Entropy (Su): 2/day, 3d6 points of damage against objects, bypassing hardness
Flux Adept 4 (Dragon Compendium) - Bitter Tides (Ex): 3+Con mod. (min. 1)/day, sweat acid for 10 minutes - 1/round acid damage to object touched, ignore hardness
Mythic Exemplar 10 (Complete Champion) - Embody Paragon, Sunyartra (Su): ignore 15 points of DR or hardness
Spinemeld Warrior 9 (Magic of Incarnum) - Adamantine Spines (Ex): spines count as adamantine to overcome DR or hardness
Stonedeath Assassin 3 (Races of Stone) - Corrupt Stone (Su): on melee touch attack, 3d6 damage which ignore hardness of stone or DR of creature with Earth subtype (4d6 at 4th level, and 5d6 - at 5th)
Unholy Ravager 2 (Dragon #297, [epic] PrC) - Corrupting Touch (Su): on touch attack, remove DR or hardness for 1 hour; in case of a very large object (such as castle's wall), only 5' cube is affected; usable 1/day (+1/day for every 10 next levels)
Raishoiken
2020-07-30, 11:25 PM
Strength devotion does this a couple minutes a day if you get turn undead (or one if you dont)
sweeet
Martial Study (mountain hammer), or do an initiator dip at level 5 (any, all of them have access to Stone Dragon).
also sweet
Corruption domain granted ability.
oh yes, sweet degeneration
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