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Precure
2020-09-10, 07:35 AM
Mines:

Roy = Roi (IPA: rɔɪ)
Elan = Allen
Haley = Hay-Lee
Vaarsuvius = Waa-Sue-Veez
Durkon = Door-Con
Belkar = Bell-Car
Xykon = Zee-Con
Redcloak = Red-Cloak
Mitd = M-I-T-D
Oona = Uhh-Nah
Greyview = Grey-View
Nale = Nail (as said in comic)
Sabine = Sa-Been
Thog = Dog with a T instead of D
Tarquin = Tar-Queen
Malack = Muh-Luck
Bozzok = Boh-Zuck
Crystal = Crystal

Thank you for all the answers in advance. :smallsmile:

Fyraltari
2020-09-10, 07:46 AM
I see, mine (and I understand this is controversial) are:

Roy = Roy
Elan = Elan
Haley = Haley
Vaarsuvius = Vaarsuvius
Durkon = Durkon
Belkar = Belkar
Xykon = Xykon
Redcloak = Redcloak
Mitd = M-I-T-D
Oona = Oona
Greyview = Greyview
Nale = Nale
Sabine = Sabine
Thog = Thog
Tarquin = Tarquin
Malack = Malack
Bozzok = Bozzok
Crystal = Crystal

Less tongue-in-cheek ly I can imagine three different way to pronounce « Roi » so you’re going to need another method to convey your preferred pronunciations.

Precure
2020-09-10, 07:56 AM
I should have know not to ask questions in this forum, the home of "comedic geniuses." :smallsigh:

Fyraltari
2020-09-10, 08:01 AM
I should have know not to ask questions in this forum, home of "comedic geniuses." :smallsigh:

I mean you did type « Crystal = Crystal », so I’m not really sure what you were expecting. As I said in whitetext, you say that you pronounce Roy Roi, but since no-one here knows how you pronounce Roi*, we haven’t made much progress.

*are the o and i different syllabes? Is the i pronounced like in « fish » or like in « ion »?

hroþila
2020-09-10, 08:09 AM
IPA or bust

[roi̯]
[ˈelan]
[ˈhei̯li] (edit: this is a blatant lie, my brain mostly says ['hali])
[varˈsuvjus]
[ˈdurkon]
[ˈbelkar]
[ˈsai̯kon]
[ˈredˌklou̯k]
[ˈmiteð]~[ˈmiteθ]
[ˈona]
[ˈgrei̯vju]
[nei̯l]
[saˈbin]
[θox]
[ˈtarkin]
[ˈmalak]
[ˈbosok]~[ˈboθok]
[ˈcristal]

Precure
2020-09-10, 08:10 AM
As I said in whitetext, you say that you pronounce Roy Roi, but since no-one here knows how you pronounce Roi*, we haven’t made much progress.

*are the o and i different syllabes? Is the i pronounced like in « fish » or like in « ion »?

rɔɪ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English

I'll add this later to my post as an explanation.


[ˈelan]

You mean [ɛǀæn]? :smallconfused: Never think of that before.

hroþila
2020-09-10, 08:31 AM
You mean [ɛǀæn]? :smallconfused:
I mean [ˈelan]. People speak other languages, Steven.

I'm a bit amused that, out of that list of heavily accented Romance barely trying to pass as English, you took exception with [ˈelan] :smalltongue:

Precure
2020-09-10, 08:41 AM
I mean [ˈelan]. People speak other languages, Steven.

I'm a bit amused that, out of that list of heavily accented Romance barely trying to pass as English, you took exception with [ˈelan] :smalltongue:

You said IPA or bust, so I assumed that you've written their names in IPA. I'm sorry for misunderstanding? What do you mean by 'people speak other languages?'

hroþila
2020-09-10, 08:50 AM
You said IPA or bust, so I assumed you written them in IPA.
They are written in IPA :smallconfused:
Close-mid front unrounded vowel [e] (or mid [e̞], if we want a narrower transcription) bearing the main stress
Voiced denti-alveolar lateral approximant [l]
Open front unrounded vowel [a] (or central [ä], if we want a narrower transcription)
Voiced alveolar nasal [n]

None of these vowels exist in standard English, but they're common in other languages.

Precure
2020-09-10, 08:59 AM
They are written in IPA :smallconfused:
Close-mid front unrounded vowel [e] (or mid [e̞], if we want a narrower transcription) bearing the main stress
Voiced denti-alveolar lateral approximant [l]
Open front unrounded vowel [a] (or central [ä], if we want a narrower transcription)
Voiced alveolar nasal [n]

None of these vowels exist in standard English, but they're common in other languages.

It's similar to the french élan then. Never think of its sounding like that. Thank you for your answer.

Lord Torath
2020-09-10, 09:02 AM
Oona = oh - OO - nuh

What can I say? I sound things out weirdly, sometimes.

Precure
2020-09-10, 09:12 AM
Oona = oh - OO - nuh

What can I say? I sound things out weirdly, sometimes.

Don't worry, it's not weird. Looks (sounds?) similar to how I pronounce it, I think. Thank you for your answer.

Schroeswald
2020-09-10, 10:07 AM
Roy = Roi
Elan = Ee-len
Haley = Hay-Lee
Vaarsuvius = Var-Sue-Vee-Is (the s in is would be like in snake and not is)
Durkon =Der-Kin
Belkar = Bell-Car
Xykon = Zie-Kon
Redcloak = Red-Cloak
Mitd = monster in the darkness
Oona = Oo (as in doom) nah
Greyview = Grey-View
Nale = Nail
Sabine = Sa-Been
Thog = Dog with a Th instead of D
Tarquin = Tar-Qwin
Malack = Mah-Lick
Bozzok = Boh-Zuck
Crystal = Cri-St-ol

Jason
2020-09-10, 10:23 AM
Roy = Roy. Not an unusual name in America.
Elan = ee-LAHN. That's a long "e" with the stress on the second syllable.
Haley = HAY-lee. Also a common name in America.
Vaarsuvius = var-SOO-vee-us. Similar to "Mt. Vesuvius".
Durkon = DUR-kon. Similar to "durable"
Belkar = BELL-kar
Xykon = ZI-kon, kind of like the camera brand. Rhymes with "icon".
Oona = OO-nah. It's a real world variation on the Irish Una.
Nale = Nail
Sabine = Sah-BEAN. Real world name. There's a character in Star Wars: Rebels with the same name.
Thog = Thog. Rhymes with "dog".
Tarquin = TAR-quin.
Malack = MAL-ahk. Similar to "malice".
Bozzok = BAHZ-ock. First syllable rhymes with "Oz" as in the place Dorothy went.

KorvinStarmast
2020-09-10, 10:35 AM
Roy = Roy
Elan = Fool
Haley = Hay-Lee
Vaarsuvius = Var Soo Vee Us. (but usually, now, Vee)
Durkon = Dur-Kon
Belkar = Bell-Car
Xykon = Zī-Kon
Redcloak = Just the way it looks
Mitd = Mitt Dee
Oona = OOh - Nah
Greyview = Just the way it looks
Nale = Nail
Sabine = Sah-Been
Thog = Fog with a Th
Tarquin = Tar-Kin
Malack = Mă-Lăck
Bozzok = Moe - Ron
Crystal = Just the way it looks

Sir_Norbert
2020-09-10, 10:39 AM
Durkon = DUR-kon. Similar to "durable"

Are you saying you pronounce it [dʒʊər.kɒn]? That seems far-fetched.

Jason
2020-09-10, 10:47 AM
Are you saying you pronounce it [dʒʊər.kɒn]? That seems far-fetched.
DUHR-a-bull
DUHR-kon
It's the first bit that's similar, not the second syllable. Also, "durable" is a pretty obvious inspiration for the name.

Fyraltari
2020-09-10, 10:53 AM
IPA or bust

[roi̯]
[ˈelan]
[ˈhei̯li] (edit: this is a blatant lie, my brain mostly says ['hali])
[varˈsuvjus]
[ˈdurkon]
[ˈbelkar]
[ˈsai̯kon]
[ˈredˌklou̯k]
[ˈmiteð]~[ˈmiteθ]
[ˈona]
[ˈgrei̯vju]
[nei̯l]
[saˈbin]
[θox]
[ˈtarkin]
[ˈmalak]
[ˈbosok]~[ˈboθok]
[ˈcristal]


rɔɪ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English

I'll add this later to my post as an explanation.

Now we're getting somewhere.

Here are mine:
Roy Greenhilt: [ʁoj gʁi:nilt]
Elan: [ela:n]
Haley Starshine: [hɛli staʁʃaɪn]
Belkar Bitterleaf: [bɛlkaʁ bitəʁli:f]
Durkon Allotrope Thundershield: [d̪əʁkɔn alotʁop θənd̪əʁʃi:ld̪]
Vaarsuvius: [vaaʁsɥviɥs]
Mr. Scruffy: [mistəʁ skʁəfi]
Blackwing: [blakwiŋg]
Nale: [nɛl]
Redcloak: [ʁɛd̪klo:k]
Xykon: [zaɪkɔn]
Tarquin: [taʁkin]
Sabine: [sabin]
Hinjo: [hindʒo]
Mitd: [mɔ̃nstəʁ san]
Celia: [selia]
Minrah Elle Shaleshoe: [minʁa el ʃelʃu]
Miko Miyazaki: [miko miazaki]
Thog: [θog]
Beatrix "Bandana" Secundus: [beatʁiks bɑ̃nd̪ana sekundus]
Malack: [malak]
Zz'dtri: [choking sounds]
O-Chul: [otʃul]
Hilgya Firehelm: [hilʒia faɪəʁelm]
Qarr: [kaʁʁ]
Lien: [lien]
Thor: [θoʁ]
Shojo: [ʃodʒo]
Daigo Kato: [d̪aɪgo kato]
Sigdi Thundershield: [sigd̪i θənd̪əʁʃi:ld̪]
Eugene greenhilt: [əʒen gʁi:nilt]
"Andi" Andromeda: [ɑ̃nd̪i ɑ̃nd̪ʁomeda]
Gontor Hammerfell: [gɔ̃ntoʁ haməʁfel]
Tsukiko: [tsukiko]
Ian Starshine: [aɪan staʁʃaɪn]
Kilkil: [kilkil]
Gannji: [gandʒi]
Kudzu: [kud̪zu]
Kazumi Kato: [kad̪zumi kato]
Carol: [kaʁol]
Crystal: [kʁistal]
Enor: [enoʁ]

I know, it's a godawful mix of pronunciations at best and sometimes (like for V) I don't even try.

EDIT: As for the stresses, I either completely forget about them or default to the last syllable.

Jason
2020-09-10, 11:05 AM
Zz'dtri. Uh, maybe "zz-duh-TREE?" Hopefully he really is dead this time and it won't come up again.

Jasdoif
2020-09-10, 11:13 AM
Assuming a willingness to entertain second-hand comments:



EE-lin
HAY-lee
vahr-SOOV-ee-us
DUHR-kon
ROY
BELL-karr
ZYE-kon
NAIL
sa-BEEN
THOG
YIK YIK
ZIZ-di-tree
HILL-gee-ya
DOOR-oo-kon

Peelee
2020-09-10, 11:20 AM
DUHR-a-bull

DYUHR-a-bull, to co-opt your system there. At least, that's how I and everyone I've ever heard has pronounced it.

ETA: a small pronunciation guide I use:
Elon = Musk
Vaarsuvius = Just slightly differently than the volcano.
Sabine = Wren
Tarquin = Grand Moff
Malack = Darth

dancrilis
2020-09-10, 01:36 PM
Assuming a willingness to entertain second-hand comments:



In support of that later on in that topic he doesn't contradict those when he says:


Assuming that wasn't sarcasm, "Roy" rhymes with "boy" or "toy", and "Thog" rhymes with "hog" or "smog" or "bog".

I have not corrected the quotes to leave it as it currently appears.

Opposed to it he does indicate that Nale is NAYL rather then NAIL here:

My understanding is that they, officially, they are not named after the characters—that "Nale" is pronounced "NAH-lee" rather than "NAYL," and is a girl's name in some culture somewhere.

For myself I don't pronounce them I just read them and don't really associate sounds to them (never really have associated names or sounds with text really unless I need to read alond for some reason).

Particle_Man
2020-09-10, 03:22 PM
Roy = Roy. Not an unusual name in America.
Elan = ee-LAHN. That's a long "e" with the stress on the second syllable.
Haley = HAY-lee. Also a common name in America.
Vaarsuvius = var-SOO-vee-us. Similar to "Mt. Vesuvius".
Durkon = DUR-kon. Similar to "durable"
Belkar = BELL-kar
Xykon = ZI-kon, kind of like the camera brand. Rhymes with "icon".
Oona = OO-nah. It's a real world variation on the Irish Una.
Nale = Nail
Sabine = Sah-BEAN. Real world name. There's a character in Star Wars: Rebels with the same name.
Thog = Thog. Rhymes with "dog".
Tarquin = TAR-quin.
Malack = MAL-ahk. Similar to "malice".
Bozzok = BAHZ-ock. First syllable rhymes with "Oz" as in the place Dorothy went.

Twins! What is your accent, sir?

Fyraltari
2020-09-11, 03:01 AM
Opposed to it he does indicate that Nale is NAYL rather then NAIL here:


Thing is, the « Elan’s mom misses her lost nail » and « Thog help nail Not-Nail, not Nail, by helping Nale, not Not-Nale leave Not-Nale in jail » dialogs suggest that « Nale » is pronounced juste like « nail » and that when the giant wrote « NAYL » that was what he was trying to convey.

In other words:

IPA or bust

snowblizz
2020-09-11, 04:04 AM
« Thog help nail Not-Nail, not Nail, by helping Nale, not Not-Nale leave Not-Nale in jail » dialogs suggest that « Nale » is pronounced juste like « nail » and that when the giant wrote « NAYL » that was what he was trying to convey.


That would represent how *Thog* the barely literate barbarian would pronounce it.

Also what accent you have I imagine will impact whether it's nail or nayl.

Also, am I the only one who isn't helped in the slightest by IPA.

hroþila
2020-09-11, 04:20 AM
Nah, The Giant is consistently saying that Nale is pronounced NAIL/NAYL/nail/[neɪ̯l]. AY and AI are pronounced the same in presumably every dialect of English except in the exclamation ay, and being illiterate has no bearing on your ability (or lack thereof) to reproduce a name you hear every day. And that still doesn't address why Nale's mom would pronounce it exactly like nail.

Metastachydium
2020-09-12, 03:18 PM
As follows:
/'ɛla:n 'bɛlka:r 'durkon 'va:rsu:vius 'neil 'ksikon 'tarkʷin 'sabi:n 'hindʒo: 'minra 'miko: 'mijazaki 'tog 'malak(:) 'o: 'tʃu:l 'hilgʲa 'kar: 'liɛn 'ʃodʒo: 'daigo: 'sigdi 'gon(:)tor 'vɛldri:na 'tsukiko: 'kilkil 'gan:dʒi 'kudzu 'kazumi 'ɛ:nor 'sɛdrik 'ni:ro: 'jikjik 'jokjok 'jukjuk 'jasinda 'dʒiriks 'ho: 'tanh 'niu 'boz:ok: 'jor 'pompɛi 'doruka:n 'li:riən 'su:n 'ʒirard 'seri:ni 'kra:gor 'inki:rius 'kubota/

RatElemental
2020-09-12, 08:57 PM
Roy = Roi
Elan = Not-Nale
Haley = Hay-Lee
Vaarsuvius = Vee
Durkon = D'rkon
Belkar = Bell-Car
Xykon = Zigh-con
Redcloak = Wrong-eye
Mitd = Monster-san

Ruck
2020-09-12, 10:38 PM
Roy = Ross
Haley = Monica
Durkon = Joey
Belkar = Chandler
Vaarsuvius = Rachel
Elan = Phoebe

pearl jam
2020-09-12, 11:12 PM
DYUHR-a-bull, to co-opt your system there. At least, that's how I and everyone I've ever heard has pronounced it.


Interesting. I would say I've probably heard that pronunciation before, but I would say that I am much more used to hearing it the way the poster to whom you were replying suggested.

EDIT: Cambridge seems to suggest that this is a UK/US divergence.

Fincher
2020-09-12, 11:37 PM
Roy - Roi (like boy)
Haley - Hay-lee
Elan - Eh-lon
Vaarsuvius - Var-soo-vee-us
Belkar - Bell-car
Durkon - Dur-con
Xykon - Xy-con (like hi and John)
Oona - Oo-nuh
Nale - Nail
Sabine - Say-bean (like seen)
Thog - Thawg (like dog)
Tarquin - Tar-quinn (like win)
Malack - Mal-ick (like pal, or Hal of Hal Jordan and sick)
Bozzok - Buh-zock
Hinjo - Hin-joe (like win and go)
Celia - Seal-yuh
Minrah - Min-ruh
Miko Miyazaki - Meek-o Mee-yuh-zoh-kee
Zz'dtri - Zuh-dee-tree
O-Chul - Oh-chool (like no and stool)
Hilgya - Hilg-yuh, but when I say Hilg-yuh it ends up sounding like Hil-gee-uh, which makes about as much sense to me
Qarr - Car
Lien - Leen (like seen)
Sigdi - Sig-dee
Andi - Ann-dee
Tsukiko - Tsoo-kee-ko
Kilkil - Kill-kill
Gannji - Gon-jee
Kudzu: Koo-dzoo


If that wasn't clear enough, well, I can't really be bothered with IPA or whatever.

Precure
2020-09-13, 12:08 AM
Names like Miko and Tsukiko are written as they read*, so I didn't add them to my post. But I guess, for native english speakers, Miko could look like a word that should be read as My-Co instead of Me-Co due to spelling rules of english language.

* みこ and つきこ

Alcore
2020-09-13, 04:29 AM
Mines:

Roy = Roi
Elan = E-lan
Haley = Hay-Lee
Vaarsuvius = Var-E-ous (i remove the suv)
Durkon = Dur-Con
Belkar = Bell-Car
Xykon = Zie-Con
Redcloak = Red-Cloak
Mitd = Monster in the Darkness (i never verbally abbreviate)
Oona = ooh-Naa
Greyview = Grey-View
Nale = Nail
Sabine = Sa-Bi-en
Thog = thog
Tarquin = Tar-Quin
Malack = Mal-ack
Bozzok = Boh-Zook
Crystal = Crystal

hroþila
2020-09-13, 06:00 AM
It's interesting (to me) to realize to what extent I mix English and Spanish phonemes when pronouncing these names, even pronouncing Spanish phonemes in places where they would never appear in Spanish. It is, of course, gloriously inconsistent.

Miko: [ˈmiko miʝaˈθaki]
Tsukiko: [tsuˈkiko] (sometimes [ˈtsukiko], but usually not)
Tanh: [tanː]
Niu: [nju]
Lien: [ljen]
O-Chul: [oˈtʃul]
Hinjo: [ˈhiɲɟʝo]
Shojo [ˈʃoɟʝo]
Kubota: [kuˈβota]
Qarr: [kwar]~[kar]
Therkla: [ˈθerkla]~[ˈterkla]
Kazumi Kato: [kaˈθumi ˈkato]
Daigo: [ˈdai̯ɰo]
Soon Kim: [sun kim]
Kraagor: [ˈkra(ː)ɰor]
Lirian: [ˈliɾjan]
Dorukan: [ˈdoɾukan]
Serini Toormuck: [ˈseɾini ˈtormuk]
Girard Draketooth: [ˈɟʝiɾar(ð) ˈdrei̯kˌtuθ]
Zz'dtri: [zˈditri]~[sˈditri]
Kilkil: [kilˈkil]
Laurin Shattersmith: [ˈlauɾin ˈʃatersˌmiθ]
Miron Shewdanker: [ˈmiɾon ˈʃ(j)u(ː)ˌdaŋker]
Jacinda: [ɟʝaˈθinda]
Celia: [ˈθelja]
Minrah: [ˈminra]
Hilgya: [ˈhilɟʝa]
Sigdi: [ˈsigdi]
Kudzu: [ˈkutsu]
Gontor Hammerfell: [ˈgontor ˈhamerˌfel]
Veldrina: [velˈdrina]
Jirix: [ˈɟʝiriks]
Shelby: [ˈʃelβi]
Right-Eye: [ˈɹa(ɪ̯)ˌɾai̯] (I think this one has the best/worst mix of Romance and English phones)
Eriaxnikol: [eɾiˈaksnikol]
Ridiziak: [riˈðisi.ak]
Aliyara: [aliˈʝaɾa]
Gannji: [ˈgaɲɟʝi]
Enor: [ˈenor]
Inkyrius: [iŋˈkiɾjus]
Aarindarius: [aɾinˈdaɾjus]

Precure
2020-09-13, 07:12 AM
Ah, yes, I also pronounce Qarr as [kwar].

Edreyn
2020-09-18, 11:00 AM
Elan = Ea-LAHN
Haley = HAY-lee
Xykon = KHSS-EYE-kohn
Belkar = BHEL-car
Vaaruvius = Vah-AR-soo-vee-uhs
MITD = Mee-TEH-deh
Durkon = DHUR-khon
Oona = OOH-nah
Nale = NAY-l
Minrah - MEEN-Rha
O-Chul = Oh-CHOOL
Daigo = DYE-gho
Tarquin = TAHR-queen
Celia = Seh-LEE-yha
Malack (as in Star Wars game)
Lien = LEE-yeah-n
ZZ'dtri = ZZ-dee-tree

137beth
2020-09-18, 11:23 AM
This thread is basically a reminder that I should try learning IPA when I get time for it, since I can't figure out how else to write my pronunciation of Elan.

JustIgnoreMe
2020-09-18, 11:51 AM
Xykon = ZI-kon, kind of like the camera brand. Rhymes with "icon".
Have... have I been mispronouncing Nikon my entire life? Nick-on. Not Ny-con. Surely?

Jason
2020-09-18, 12:18 PM
Have... have I been mispronouncing Nikon my entire life? Nick-on. Not Ny-con. Surely?
The common American pronunciation seems to be NEYE-kon, to rhyme with how we pronounce icon.
The original Japanese is probably closer to Nee-kon, like "knee". "Nick-on" seems to be the common UK pronunciation.

Edit: "Xykon = KHSS-EYE-kohn" can't be correct, because the joke has been made several times that it's pronounced just like "Zykon", but he can somehow tell when you're not using an "x".

hroþila
2020-09-18, 12:56 PM
I thought this wasn't about what we believe the "correct" pronunciation is but about how we pronounce these names in our head when we're reading. I mean, knowing that the Giant intends <Elan> to be pronounced [ˈiːlən] won't stop me from saying [ˈelan] (although I guess if I suddenly had to discuss the OotS in person with other folks I would probably do my best to stick to the "real" pronunciations).

Jason
2020-09-18, 01:06 PM
I thought this wasn't about what we believe the "correct" pronunciation is but about how we pronounce these names in our head when we're reading. I mean, knowing that the Giant intends <Elan> to be pronounced [ˈiːlən] won't stop me from saying [ˈelan] (although I guess if I suddenly had to discuss the OotS in person with other folks I would probably do my best to stick to the "real" pronunciations).

Sure, but if you're pronouncing things such that the jokes don't work anymore then that might be described as "incorrect", right?

understatement
2020-09-18, 01:18 PM
I don't know any pronounciation notation, so...

Elan = EE-lan (even though the dictionary tells me it's A-lan).
Belkar = BELL-cur
Durkon = Dur-kahn
Xykon = Zy-kahn
Sabine = Suh-BEAN
Zz'drti = Zz-ditry (like dishes)
Hilgya = HILL-guh
Tarquin = Tar-kwin
Malack = MAA-lick
Miron = MEER-ruhn
Lien = LEE-ehn
Celia = SEE-lee-uh
Bozzok = BALL-zuhk
Minrah = MIN-ruh
Tsukiko = Tsu-kee-koh
Oona = OO-nuh
Jirix = JEER-ricks
Mijung = Mee-jung
Serini = serenity but without the last syllable

Ruck
2020-09-18, 03:03 PM
heh, I always said "Serini" with a long second vowel. Suh-REE-knee.

although I guess it's close enough I kinda blend the two together in my pronunciation. Similar to how I usually say DUR-KON but sometimes it comes out as DUR-kin.

Alcore
2020-09-21, 11:25 AM
I thought this wasn't about what we believe the "correct" pronunciation is but about how we pronounce these names in our head when we're reading. I mean, knowing that the Giant intends <Elan> to be pronounced [ˈiːlən] won't stop me from saying [ˈelan] (although I guess if I suddenly had to discuss the OotS in person with other folks I would probably do my best to stick to the "real" pronunciations).

fun fact; If I can tell that a name is derived from a none English language I try and pronounce it with none English syllables. So much anime and spanish classes have given me a larger array of sounds that sound right.


also;
ˈiːlən

what would that even sound like? Unless I can hear it I can't speak it even as only a voice in my head.

KorvinStarmast
2020-09-21, 02:28 PM
heh, I always said "Serini" with a long second vowel. Suh-REE-knee.

although I guess it's close enough I kinda blend the two together in my pronunciation. Similar to how I usually say DUR-KON but sometimes it comes out as DUR-kin.

Interesting: I pronounce Serini in my head as "seh - REE - knee" - I roll the r as an Italian would. Not sure why I do that; it just looke like an Italian name to me.

Precure
2020-09-21, 03:03 PM
I thought this wasn't about what we believe the "correct" pronunciation is but about how we pronounce these names in our head when we're reading. I mean, knowing that the Giant intends <Elan> to be pronounced [ˈiːlən] won't stop me from saying [ˈelan] (although I guess if I suddenly had to discuss the OotS in person with other folks I would probably do my best to stick to the "real" pronunciations).

Great point!

Sir_Norbert
2020-09-21, 05:17 PM
also:
ˈiːlən

what would that even sound like? Unless I can hear it I can't speak it even as only a voice in my head.

In IPA, [i:] is the vowel in "feet", and [ə] is the schwa, the typical reduced vowel, like the "a" in "about".

Lemarc
2020-09-23, 10:04 AM
Tarquin, at least, is the name of a Roman king, and presumably pronounced the same way. And I've apparently been pronouncing it wrong my entire life, I just looked it up and learned it's "tarkwin" not "tarkin". Of course whether Rich pronounces it that way is beyond me. Any similar named sources for other characters?

WanderingMist
2020-09-25, 06:02 PM
OotS:
Roy - ROY
Haley - HAY-lee
Elan - EE-ln (there's no vowel between the L and N for me)
Vaarsuvius - VAR-soo-vee-us
Belkar - BEL-kar
Durkon - DUR-kahn

Team Evil:
Xykon - ZAI-kon
Oona - Oo-nuh
Tsukiko - Tsoo-KEE-koh
Redcloak - RED-clohk

Gobbotopia:
Jirix - JEER-ikks

Linear Guild:
Nale - NAYL
Sabine - Sa-BEAN
Thog - THOG
Zz'dtri - ZDEE-tree
Hilgya - HIL-gyuh

Empire of Blood:
Tarquin - TARK-win
Malack - MAL-ikk
Gannji - GAHN-jee
Enor - EE -nohr
Laurin Shattersmith - LOHR-inn SHATT-urr-smith
Miron Shewdanker - MEER-ahn SHOO-dank-urr
Jacinda - JUH-sinn-duh
Amun-Zora - AH-moon ZOH-ruh
(Ambassador) Gourntonk - GOHRN-tonk

Thieve's Guild/Greysky City:
Bozzok - BOH-zahk
Hieronymous Grubwiggler: HEER-ahn-imm-iss GRUB-wigg-lurr
Giro - JEER-oh

Azure City:
Hinjo - HIN-joh (like win and go)
Miko Miyazaki - MEE-koh MEE-yuh-ZAH-kee
O-Chul - Oh-CHOOL
Lien - Lee-EN
Zhou Bo - ZHOH boh
Nguyen - NGOO-yin
Isamu - EE-sah-moo
Daigo - DAI-goh
Kazumi Kato - Kuh-ZOO-mee KAY-toh
Sangwaan - SAHNG-wahn
Ho Thanh - HOH thahn
Daimyo Kubota - DAI-myoh KOO-boh-tuh

IFCC:
Qarr - CAR
Nero - NEE-roh

Dorukan's Dungeon Employees:
Celia - SEE-lee-uh

Firmament:
Minrah - MIN-rah
Sigdi - SIG-dee
Kudzu: KØD-zoo

Mechane & Crew:
Andi - AN-dee
Julio Scoundrel - HOO-lee-oh SKAUN-drl
Mechane - meh-KAYN

Order of the Scribble:
Soon Kim - Soon KIM
Dorukan - DOH-roo-kahn
Girard Draketooth - JR-ard DRAYK-tooth
Serini - sur-EE-nee
Kraagor - used to think KRAY-gohr, now think KRÅ-gohr

Elven Homelands:
Inkyrius - een-KEER-ee-iss
Aarindarius - EIR-inn-DAHR-ee-øs

Dinner time now, will edit in more later. Intend to cover as many as I can.

For the record:
A as in cat or bat
AH as in John or cot.
AI as in die or lie
AR as in car or bar
AU as in sound or found
AY as is hay or day

EE as in me or we
EI as in air or bear

I as in win or tin

O as in honk or bonk
Ø as in could or would
OH as in throw or mow
OO as in tool or spool
OY as in toy or ploy

UH as in uh or duh

ZH as in measure or seizure

Mariele
2020-09-26, 08:00 AM
Roy = Roy. Not an unusual name in America.
Elan = ee-LAHN. That's a long "e" with the stress on the second syllable.
Haley = HAY-lee. Also a common name in America.
Vaarsuvius = var-SOO-vee-us. Similar to "Mt. Vesuvius".
Durkon = DUR-kon. Similar to "durable"
Belkar = BELL-kar
Xykon = ZI-kon, kind of like the camera brand. Rhymes with "icon".
Oona = OO-nah. It's a real world variation on the Irish Una.
Nale = Nail
Sabine = Sah-BEAN. Real world name. There's a character in Star Wars: Rebels with the same name.
Thog = Thog. Rhymes with "dog".
Tarquin = TAR-quin.
Malack = MAL-ahk. Similar to "malice".
Bozzok = BAHZ-ock. First syllable rhymes with "Oz" as in the place Dorothy went.
Literally the exact same as how I pronounce all of them. I used to pronounce Elan as "ee-LAN", but switched to "ee-LAHN". Tarquin as "TAR-kwin", if that makes it any clearer.

Shirow
2020-10-21, 09:04 PM
It's interesting (to me) to realize to what extent I mix English and Spanish phonemes when pronouncing these names, even pronouncing Spanish phonemes in places where they would never appear in Spanish. It is, of course, gloriously inconsistent.
IPA or bust


Agreed. Yikes you're dishing out the allophones? I'll try to stick to the IPA broad transcription standard.

/ɾɔɪ/ /'gɾinhɪlt/
/ˈheɪli/ /'stɑɾʃaɪn/
/ˈɛlən/
/'bɛlkɑr/ /ˈbɪtərlif/ or /ˈbɪɾəɾlif/
/'dʊrkɑn/ /ˈθʌndərʃild/ (self) or /'duɾkɔn/ /ˈθʌndəɾʃild/ (other party members)
/vɑɾ'səvɪʊs/ or /vɑːr'səvɪʊs/
/'minrə/ /ɛl/ /'ʃjuʃeɪl/
/blækwɪŋ/
/ˈmɪstər/ /ˈskrʌfi/
/'silɪə/

/zaɪkon/ or /zaɪkɒn/
/'rɛdkləʊk/ or /'rɛdkloʊk/
/'una/

/ʤoʊnz/
/rɑˈdrigɛz/

/neɪl/
/saˈbin/
/θɔg/
/zˈdɪtri/

/ˈkɾɪstəl/
/'bozok/ or /'boʊzok/
/hænk/
/ʤɛni/

/miko/ /mija'zaki/ or (when the Northeners are talking) /miːkoʊ/ /miə'zʌkiː/
/t͡sɯ̥'kiko/ or /tsu'kikoʊ/
/ˈθerkla/
/'hɪnʤɔʊ/
/'ɕɔʊʤɔʊ/
/kɯ'bota/ or /kɯ'boʊta/
/oʊ'ʧul/
/lɪɛn/
/kwɑr/

/'ʤiriks/
/'tarkɪn/ or /'taɾkən/
/'xulio/ /eskaundɾel/
/bæn'dana/
/'ʌndi/
/'rɛkan/
/vɛl'drinə/
/grɛg/

/'hiːlgja/
/'kɯdzɯ/
/'sɪgdi/
/'skwiki/

Goblin_Priest
2020-10-22, 08:48 AM
I see, mine (and I understand this is controversial) are:

Roy = Roy
Elan = Elan
Haley = Haley
Vaarsuvius = Vaarsuvius
Durkon = Durkon
Belkar = Belkar
Xykon = Xykon
Redcloak = Redcloak
Mitd = M-I-T-D
Oona = Oona
Greyview = Greyview
Nale = Nale
Sabine = Sabine
Thog = Thog
Tarquin = Tarquin
Malack = Malack
Bozzok = Bozzok
Crystal = Crystal

Less tongue-in-cheek ly I can imagine three different way to pronounce « Roi » so you’re going to need another method to convey your preferred pronunciations.

I was gonna say this, but I see it was already done. :P

Edea
2020-10-22, 04:53 PM
Roy - (rhymes with boy)
Haley - HAY-lee
Elan - a-LAWN
Vaarsuvius - var-SOO-vee-us
Belkar - BELL-car
Durkon - DUR-con
Xykon - echs-EYE-con (see Spoiler for explanation)
Oona - OO-nuh
Nale - (rhymes with nail, and that one actually has precedent in the comic)
Sabine - suh-BEEN
Thog - (rhymes with dog)
Tarquin - TAR-kin (think 'mannequin' -> MAN-eh-kin)
Malack - MAL-ick
Bozzok - BO-zock
Hinjo - HIN-joe
Celia - SEE-lee-uh
Minrah - MIN-ruh
Miko Miyazaki - MEE-ko mee-yuh-ZAH-kee
Zz'dtri - ZID-tree
O-Chul - OH-chool
Hilgya - HILL-gee-uh
Qarr - Car
Lien - Lee-EN
Sigdi - SIG-dee
Andi - AN-dee
Tsukiko - soo-KI-ko
Kilkil - KILL-KILL
Gannji - GON-jee
Enor - EE-nor
Kudzu: COULD-zoo

In SoD, our BBEG is approached by a guy named Xavion to be part of the S-Men. The original source of inspiration for this character's obviously Charles Xavier, where Xavier is pronounced 'echs-AY-vee-er'. I would posit a guess that Xavion is therefore pronounced 'echs-AY-vee-on', and since this is the name our young sorcerer got the 'X' idea from, it would transfer to the other names mentioned, with him trying 'Xorcor' first ('echs-OR-kor') and then finally settling on Xykon ('echs-EYE-con'). Also in SoD, Xykon flies into a quick tirade about how 'Zs are for *******' when Right-Eye mis-addresses him, so it's definitely -not- 'ZAI-kon', and it's probably not 'SAI-kon' either since the pronunciation difference between the two is close to non-existent.