Vile damage on Lich and Similar

[Jowgen]

A pretty straightforward question.

If a Lich, Ghost or somesuch creature with a resurrection ability gets destroyed while having a measure of vile damage, does that damage carry over to their rejuvinated form?

If so, what would happen if their vile damage exceeds their total HP at that point?

Vile damage, like regular damage, results in the loss of hit points or ability score points. Unlike regular damage, vile damage can only be healed by magic cast within the area of a consecrate or hallow spellVile damage represents such an evil violation to a character’s body or soul that only in a holy place can healing magic repair the damage.

[Venger]

I don't see why it would. It'd be like mental ability score damage from a positoxin. While it wouldn't heal naturally, there's no reason it'd carry over to the next body because it wasn't dealt to that body. Same as if a living character who had vile damage on them and was killed were to be reincarnated.

[Albions_Angel]

I agree with Venger. The Vile Damage description even calls out that it is damage to the body. If you wanted to really dig into it, and assume that Vile Damage is essentially like Harry Potter's scar, or some anime wound that will never close, then maybe, just maybe, when the Lich is destroyed, and its corpse is left behind, the corpse Object will not start with full HP (though the amount less than its full HP will not equal the vile damage, because Objects have a lot less health than Liches tend to). This might represent that the vile damage has caused significant damage to the structure of the entity itself.

Though that idea can also be countered by the fact that the damage cant be healed because it is evil, not because it is simply "lots". So once a corpse, and thus an Object, which cares little for Good or Evil, there could be an argument to be made that Vile Damage has no effect beyond, well, damage to an Object.

Of course THAT raises issues of "in a fluff-consistent way, can Liches even suffer the effects of Vile Damage?" Crunch says of course they can, but based on fluff, liches are basically as evil as it gets, and vile damage is specifically evil so...

Anyway, all of that is fluff based speculation. Crunch would dictate that it does not carry over, as it does not say explicitly that it does.