Captain America's Super Soldier Serum?

[eyebreaker7]

What bonuses would you say it gave him?

[Drelua]

That's probably a full rebuild, giving levels and maybe the Paragon template from ELH (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/paragonCreature.htm). The bonuses from that template are ridiculous, but you'd still need a few levels to have a decent amount of HP.

[Rater202]

MCU or Comics? And if comics, main timeline or Ultimate Universe?

In the main Earth 616 comics, he Super Soldier Serum brought Steve Roger's up to the peak of human potential in every capacity. He is as strong, as fast, as smart, as able to learn and reason, as durable, as dexterous, and as tireless as it is physically possible for a human to be. He was easily able to master all of the Amry's training in a fraction of the time it would take too through basic, for example, becuase hie has infinite capacity for memory, perfect recall, perfect ability to learn in every conceivable kind of learning, and his muscle and nerves were likewise perfect and didn't need as much conditioning to get it right.

Representing this in 3.5: It would bring is strength, dex, con, int, and is scores up to at least 18 range, before applying racial modifiers.

This perfection goes all the way down. It's not just that his skin is perfect, it's that every cell in his skin is perfect, and every organelle in those cells is perfect. And the same goes for every part of his body. His body is flawless, his systems and structures are flawless, his bones, organs, nerves, and vessels are flawless, his tissues are flawless, his cells are flawless, his organelles are perfect, the molecules that mae them up are perfect. Even down to his DNA: The Serum rewrote his DNA to replace any damaged genes, negative mutations, or genetic flaws. For any gene that doesn't something imporant, Cap has the best possible version of it. Note: This does not apply to genes that are tied to traits used to determine race or ethnicity, so a High Elf isn't going to turn into a Gray Elf or a Drow even though those would be a "better" elf.

In game terms, this would probably work by removing inherent(not cultural) negative modfyers and other draw backs. A Elf would lose their con penalty, a Kobald or Draw would lose their light sensitivity, and so on.

Cap's Cells make perfect copies, in addition to being structurally perfect. Furthermore, the Super Soldier Serum propogates itself in his system and continuouesl reaffects him, though not to the same degree as the initial dose.

In Game terms, he'd have Timeles s Body and no maximum age. He furthermore should be immune to permanent ability damage and drain: Any ability damage or drain he takes would heal on it's own, eventually, as well as anything that would maim him, short of a body part being removed or destroyed. Furthermore, transfusing his blood into someone would slowly grant them the same benefits as being under the Serum.

Finally, as all of Cap's bodily structures are as durable as a human's structures can possibly be, his "maximum" that e can lift, or take, or so on is proportionately greator than the average person's. Furthermore, he's noted to heal slightly faster than an average human being.

So he should have a slightly higher than normal carrying capacity, should have bonuses on resisting fatigue and exhaustion, and have a slightly faster recovery time for natural healing.

MCU Cap is easier: Just give him Strength, Dex, and Con Scores of 18 or higher and tack on Powerful Build.

Ultimate Cap, just give him a really high strength score and powerful build.

[Falontani]

Reading... ^^ I think that just throwing Paragon template on, and allowing him to retrain everything vastly quicker would probably be good. Possibly remove the LA from the paragon template to really show just how Peak he is.

iirc a fully trained marine in d20 modern was ~level 3-5. To put that in perspective, a Captain America immediately after getting the serum could look like (32 point build)

Captain
Size/Type: Medium Humanoid (Human)
Hit Dice: 2d8+42 (58 hp)
Initiative: +9
Speed: 90 ft. (18 squares)
Armor Class: 48 (+5 natural, +12 insight, +12 luck, +9 dex), touch 10, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+11
Attack: Unarmed Strike +36 (1d3+29)
Full Attack: a couple SLAs
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Human traits
Special Qualities: None
Saves: Fort +22, Ref +19, Will +19
Abilities: Str 28, Dex 28, Con 29, Int 29, Wis 28, Cha 28
Skills: Climb +23, Handle Animal +23, Intimidate +23, Jump +23*, Ride +23, Swim +23, Appraise +21, Balance +21, Concentration +21, Tumble +21, Spot +21, Listen +21, Hide +20, Move Silently +20, Knowledge (History) +20, all others +19
Feats: 3 feats of your choice

That is with literally no training in the army yet. No boot camp, nothing.

[Remuko]

Reading... ^^ I think that just throwing Paragon template on, and allowing him to retrain everything vastly quicker would probably be good. Possibly remove the LA from the paragon template to really show just how Peak he is.

iirc a fully trained marine in d20 modern was ~level 3-5. To put that in perspective, a Captain America immediately after getting the serum could look like (32 point build)

Captain
Size/Type: Medium Humanoid (Human)
Hit Dice: 2d8+42 (58 hp)
Initiative: +9
Speed: 90 ft. (18 squares)
Armor Class: 48 (+5 natural, +12 insight, +12 luck, +9 dex), touch 10, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+11
Attack: Unarmed Strike +36 (1d3+29)
Full Attack: a couple SLAs
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Human traits
Special Qualities: None
Saves: Fort +22, Ref +19, Will +19
Abilities: Str 28, Dex 28, Con 29, Int 29, Wis 28, Cha 28
Skills: Climb +23, Handle Animal +23, Intimidate +23, Jump +23*, Ride +23, Swim +23, Appraise +21, Balance +21, Concentration +21, Tumble +21, Spot +21, Listen +21, Hide +20, Move Silently +20, Knowledge (History) +20, all others +19
Feats: 3 feats of your choice

That is with literally no training in the army yet. No boot camp, nothing.

flatfooted and touch would be higher. Flatfooted only takes away his dex of 9 from his full AC and touch only takes away the natural armor of 5 from his full AC. The insight and luck bonuses (+24 total) apply to his base 10 AC at all times.

[KillianHawkeye]

He probably has max hp per Hit Die as well. He can do this all day.

[Falontani]

flatfooted and touch would be higher. Flatfooted only takes away his dex of 9 from his full AC and touch only takes away the natural armor of 5 from his full AC. The insight and luck bonuses (+24 total) apply to his base 10 AC at all times.
I forgot to change them, those are what a level 1 human warrior had with armor.

[Remuko]

I forgot to change them, those are what a level 1 human warrior had with armor.

i figured it was something like that :)

[GrayDeath]

Well, funny you should ask.


In our local Super D20 campaign we did something very very similar, with the DC version of Caps Formula (The Danner Formula, though its strength is higher, and its not quite as perfect).

We solved it via a reduced Paragon Template as well, namely the full Paragon Bonuses remain for Str, Con, and Combat and damage Roll Bonuses, adds +6 to all other physical scores/Armors and removes inherent maluses from mentals.

We remeoved the "Always X" variants.

Doubles Maximum Age, suffers no age penealties until venerable.

Went with a total LA of 6 for it.