The speed force

[clash]

So one of my players is going to enter the speed force like three one from flash for a solo session in order to become a full on speedster. I need ideas for what that looks like in the game.

[MaxWilson]

In 5E, anything faster than a hydrogen dirigible puttering leisurely through the sky looks like The Flash. A car going 60 mph would be traveling 528' per round. If you want to be as fast as the actual Flash you're looking at something like 100,000' per round.

[Zhorn]

ideas on what a speedster would look like mechanically?
or
what the speedforce would look like?

Not sure about the later, but for the former I'm thinking 5e might not be the right system for that.
I mean you CAN give them a high movement rate per turn to represent their super speed but mechanically they'd still provoke opportunity attacks all the same when they pass by opponents, which you then 'solve' by giving them a bonus action/free disengage, which translates into them being almost unstoppable in non-gimmicked combat encounters where they just hit'n'run and forever stay outside of their opponents range/reach.

Maybe Mutants and Masterminds or some other superhero styled system would handle the mechanics of a speedster better in play?

[Quoz]

Mechanically, it sounds more like a teleport. Just instead of requiring a line of sight, there must instead be a clear unobstructed path large enough for your body to fit through.

Naratively what a speedster would do is screw with action economy. They could move fast enough to cut the throats of every target in a room before they recognized the door had opened. If you want to model that accurately that means extra actions and bonus actions, which is kind of ludicrous.

To have it work well within game balance, the upper tier of what I would give is Haste. Either as a permanent effect, or accessible a limited amount per rest.

[clash]

Ah ya I should have been more clear. I have the speedster part figured out. It is for an epic level game so im not overly concerned about imbalance. I just don't have any ideas on how to rub the speed force session.

[Unoriginal]

Ah ya I should have been more clear. I have the speedster part figured out. It is for an epic level game so im not overly concerned about imbalance. I just don't have any ideas on how to rub the speed force session.

To me this will always be the definitive representation of the Speed Force:


https://youtu.be/QXZWBJ-KKaU

[moonfly7]

maybe this isn't what your looking for, but you can get a character moving above mach 10 in DND 5e. There's a pretty large debate over exactly how fast you can go because of slightly different possible interpretations to some rules, but if you follow the highest speed interpretation you can go mach 44. More conservative reading is mach 22, and the very least you can get with minimal multiclassing and a lower level is mach 11.

[clash]

To me this will always be the definitive representation of the Speed Force:


https://youtu.be/QXZWBJ-KKaU

I love that scene. Unfortunately I am looking for what happens to Flash in the part where he has vanished. That's the part most media doosnt show.

[OldTrees1]

I love that scene. Unfortunately I am looking for what happens to Flash in the part where he has vanished. That's the part most media doosnt show.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/2/2b/Speed_Force_0001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170326044621

Basically it is an endless corridor surrounded by speed lines (the artistic representation of things moving). This is due, in part, due to the high speed you are constantly going at while inside the speed force.

[clash]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/2/2b/Speed_Force_0001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170326044621

Basically it is an endless corridor surrounded by speed lines (the artistic representation of things moving). This is due, in part, due to the high speed you are constantly going at while inside the speed force.

Hmm... This is pretty useful actually. Now I just need a set of encounters that ultimately lead to getting out of the speedforce.

[OldTrees1]

Also here is a video of one of them entering the speed force.


https://youtu.be/OWUOdhedwlg


For getting out, usually they can just leave. But when they can't, it takes outside intervention to reopen the way. A gate spell should be a fine starting point. Add adventure stuff to modify the spell to work.