flurryofDQ
2020-10-30, 12:45 AM
Hello everyone!
This is my first 3.5 campaign.
TL/DR I'm playing Bard into Fochlucan lyrist. Don't need to use druidic. Looking for a divine caster class.
I'm playing a campaign that plans to go to level 20. I'm playing a level 8 half-elf bard--Str 10, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 15, wis 12, Cha 17 (ring of cha+2=19). His party role is face and buffer. We have a druid, paladin, ranger/beastmaster, barbarian, heavily optimized roguelock chameleon, and optimized cloistered cleric. I want to keep him close to a bard 20 and that sense of being a little bit of everything, with bardic knowledge, music, and spelling. I am having trouble keeping up with AC and avoiding combat.
My DM has allowed me to take the 3.0 Virtuoso AND let me cheese entry into Fochlucan lyrist (I've learned druidic because of RP and gain evasion as a feat). Fochlucan lyrist advances divine AND arcane magic, full BAB, bard skill points, bardic music, and bardic knowledge. So it's everything I want.
Here's the plan
Bard 1-8; I have swapped all of my music so far except for Inspire Courage. Inspire courage +5 [(+2)2WoC+1 Inspirational Boost], Healing Hymn, Soothing Voice, Haunting Voice, Planar Alignment resistance (our first few levels had a lot of planar jumping. Useless ever since).
9: divine caster 1. Favored Soul, Cloistered Cleric, Archivist.
10: Virtuoso 3.0--this will let me get all the bardic musics I've traded out and give me another level 3 spell slot and give me another use of bardic music.
11+12: Sublime Chord: this will unlock sorcerer spell list to 9the level spells, and 2nd level gives me song of arcane power, which lets me use a bardic music to boost caster level.
13-20: Fochlucan lyrist. Will advance divine caster and arcane caster. Divine caster 9
Feats so far:
1: nymph's kiss
3: versatile performer (role play purposes)
4: ASI int to qualify for Words of Creation
6: Words of Creation
8: ASI cha
for ASI, I'm planning to boost Cha all the way up.
For the level 9 (leveling up in the next few days), here are my three options:
1) if I take a level of Cloistered Cleric, I will take knowledge devotion, air devotion, and time domain (improved initiative). The air devotion fits for role play purposes (DM said he was a wyndsynger, which is an elven bloodline in her campaign) and gives me swift action AC bonus, powered by turn undead, which I get from Cha. Time domain gives improved initiative, useful on a bard. But, I only have wisdom 12, so I will only ever be able to use level 2 cleric spells. DM said Lore can stack with Bardic Knowledge.
2) Favored Soul is Cha based, wis save, spontaneous cast, it will top out with 4th level cleric spells at level 20. no turn, no domains, but cleric spell list has some good spells at every level.
3) Archivist is Int based, which is good, and will eventually allow 5th level, and has a party buff feature "dark knowledge." Role play wise, he's not much of an archivist and also finding the divine spells seems like a pain in the butt.
4) apostle of peace and Ur-priest do not match him. I _could_ do divine crusader (charisma caster!), but to qualify for the BAB 7, my build would have to change a bit.
1-8 Bard
9 Warblade 1
10 divine crusader (allowed to change entry tax. Feat could be air bloodline or something similarly thematic instead of weapon focus)
11 Sublime chord 1
12 sublime chord 2 OR Virtuoso 1
13-20 Fochlucan lyrist.
With divine crusader, I'd be able to cast 1 spell/level; level 8 spells at 20, level 9 with bonus spell from cloak of charisma.
I know this is far from optimized, even given all the amazing freebies the DM has given me. Suggestions? Which one would you go with?
This is my first 3.5 campaign.
TL/DR I'm playing Bard into Fochlucan lyrist. Don't need to use druidic. Looking for a divine caster class.
I'm playing a campaign that plans to go to level 20. I'm playing a level 8 half-elf bard--Str 10, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 15, wis 12, Cha 17 (ring of cha+2=19). His party role is face and buffer. We have a druid, paladin, ranger/beastmaster, barbarian, heavily optimized roguelock chameleon, and optimized cloistered cleric. I want to keep him close to a bard 20 and that sense of being a little bit of everything, with bardic knowledge, music, and spelling. I am having trouble keeping up with AC and avoiding combat.
My DM has allowed me to take the 3.0 Virtuoso AND let me cheese entry into Fochlucan lyrist (I've learned druidic because of RP and gain evasion as a feat). Fochlucan lyrist advances divine AND arcane magic, full BAB, bard skill points, bardic music, and bardic knowledge. So it's everything I want.
Here's the plan
Bard 1-8; I have swapped all of my music so far except for Inspire Courage. Inspire courage +5 [(+2)2WoC+1 Inspirational Boost], Healing Hymn, Soothing Voice, Haunting Voice, Planar Alignment resistance (our first few levels had a lot of planar jumping. Useless ever since).
9: divine caster 1. Favored Soul, Cloistered Cleric, Archivist.
10: Virtuoso 3.0--this will let me get all the bardic musics I've traded out and give me another level 3 spell slot and give me another use of bardic music.
11+12: Sublime Chord: this will unlock sorcerer spell list to 9the level spells, and 2nd level gives me song of arcane power, which lets me use a bardic music to boost caster level.
13-20: Fochlucan lyrist. Will advance divine caster and arcane caster. Divine caster 9
Feats so far:
1: nymph's kiss
3: versatile performer (role play purposes)
4: ASI int to qualify for Words of Creation
6: Words of Creation
8: ASI cha
for ASI, I'm planning to boost Cha all the way up.
For the level 9 (leveling up in the next few days), here are my three options:
1) if I take a level of Cloistered Cleric, I will take knowledge devotion, air devotion, and time domain (improved initiative). The air devotion fits for role play purposes (DM said he was a wyndsynger, which is an elven bloodline in her campaign) and gives me swift action AC bonus, powered by turn undead, which I get from Cha. Time domain gives improved initiative, useful on a bard. But, I only have wisdom 12, so I will only ever be able to use level 2 cleric spells. DM said Lore can stack with Bardic Knowledge.
2) Favored Soul is Cha based, wis save, spontaneous cast, it will top out with 4th level cleric spells at level 20. no turn, no domains, but cleric spell list has some good spells at every level.
3) Archivist is Int based, which is good, and will eventually allow 5th level, and has a party buff feature "dark knowledge." Role play wise, he's not much of an archivist and also finding the divine spells seems like a pain in the butt.
4) apostle of peace and Ur-priest do not match him. I _could_ do divine crusader (charisma caster!), but to qualify for the BAB 7, my build would have to change a bit.
1-8 Bard
9 Warblade 1
10 divine crusader (allowed to change entry tax. Feat could be air bloodline or something similarly thematic instead of weapon focus)
11 Sublime chord 1
12 sublime chord 2 OR Virtuoso 1
13-20 Fochlucan lyrist.
With divine crusader, I'd be able to cast 1 spell/level; level 8 spells at 20, level 9 with bonus spell from cloak of charisma.
I know this is far from optimized, even given all the amazing freebies the DM has given me. Suggestions? Which one would you go with?