Arandur
2020-11-18, 02:33 PM
Trying to evaluate the merits of the Bladesinger subclass (Tasha's update). If you have a gish of another type (Hexblade, Eldritch Knight, etc), you can often take heavier armor and a shield, which are always-on as opposed to the limited number of Bladesong opportunities (Prof bonus per long rest). Are the other benefits of it worth it? What is the Advantage on Dexterity (Acrobatics) really good for?
For one, I've struggled to find any uses for Dexterity (Acrobatics), except to get out of grapples (rare, and other more surefire ways out, like teleport effects and forced movement).
What can you actually do with Acrobatics?
It seems it's heavily nerfed in 5e compared to previous editions. Can't use it to kip up from prone, cross difficult terrain, tumble for better AC or mobility-lite effects avoiding OAs, or even moving through a character or enemy's space. It seems reduced almost entirely to flavor.
Are the other Bladesong benefits really worth it?
+10ft speed seems good, but you need to be able to disengage easily, which you need level 6 Extra Attack + Cantrip of Shocking Grasp to do to avoid OA, or some multiclass combo or feat like Mobility.
As mentioned before, the INT bonus to AC is underwhelming compared to other gish options, unless you have high Dex and Int or are able to pick up the new Barrier tattoo at AC15 or higher.
The Concentration boost is nice, but there are other ways to achieve similar, with Resilient or Warcaster, Blade Ward cantrip combo at level 6, or assistance from friends/multiclassing (Resistance cantrip, Talisman).
Getting it for only a few combats a day, taking a Bonus Action to go into, and possibly running out during boss battles could really reduce its utility. If the purpose is really to create a melee wizard, I think it still kinda fails just on that basis -- you can't use it all the time.
For one, I've struggled to find any uses for Dexterity (Acrobatics), except to get out of grapples (rare, and other more surefire ways out, like teleport effects and forced movement).
What can you actually do with Acrobatics?
It seems it's heavily nerfed in 5e compared to previous editions. Can't use it to kip up from prone, cross difficult terrain, tumble for better AC or mobility-lite effects avoiding OAs, or even moving through a character or enemy's space. It seems reduced almost entirely to flavor.
Are the other Bladesong benefits really worth it?
+10ft speed seems good, but you need to be able to disengage easily, which you need level 6 Extra Attack + Cantrip of Shocking Grasp to do to avoid OA, or some multiclass combo or feat like Mobility.
As mentioned before, the INT bonus to AC is underwhelming compared to other gish options, unless you have high Dex and Int or are able to pick up the new Barrier tattoo at AC15 or higher.
The Concentration boost is nice, but there are other ways to achieve similar, with Resilient or Warcaster, Blade Ward cantrip combo at level 6, or assistance from friends/multiclassing (Resistance cantrip, Talisman).
Getting it for only a few combats a day, taking a Bonus Action to go into, and possibly running out during boss battles could really reduce its utility. If the purpose is really to create a melee wizard, I think it still kinda fails just on that basis -- you can't use it all the time.