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Aniikinis
2020-12-08, 03:06 AM
While looking through some old useful links, I found that quite a few really good ones had broken tables, images, etc. So I decided to take it upon myself to reformat one of them. I only converted up to CR 20 as this took long enough and I had other things to do. This took forever to do and I wish I knew a better way to do it than by hand.

Please note that I did not compile or create this information. I am merely reformatting it to fit the new table structure.

The original thread is here! (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?172050-3-5-Average-Monster-Stats)



CR
# of Monsters
HP
Init
AC
Touch AC
FF AC
BAB
Fort
Ref
Will


1/10 Avg
2
1.00
1.50
15.50
15.50
14.00
0.00
2.00
3.50
2.00


1/10 Max
2
1
2
16
16
14
0
2
4
2


1/8 Avg
2
1.00
2.00
14.00
14.00
12.00
0.00
2.00
3.00
0.50


1/8 Max
2
1
2
14
14
12
0
2
4
1


1/6 Avg
4
4.50
1.75
13.75
13.25
12.00
0.25
2.50
4.00
1.00


1/6 Max
4
11
2
14
14
12
1
4
4
2


1/4 Avg
8
3.88
1.75
14.50
13.25
12.75
0.25
2.50
2.88
0.38


1/4 Max
8
11
3
17
15
14
1
4
5
2


1/3 Avg
7
4.43
2.57
15.71
13.14
13.71
0.14
2.29
3.14
1.14


1/3 Max
7
6
5
17
15
16
1
4
5
3


1/2 Avg
29
6.59
1.41
14.69
11.86
13.38
0.76
2.62
2.00
0.03


1/2 Max
29
16
4
18
16
18
2
5
6
3


1 Avg
46
12.24
1.54
15.54
11.78
13.80
1.28
3.00
2.85
0.98


1 Max
46
31
7
23
20
18
3
6
6
5


2 Avg
51
20.55
2.39
15.76
11.84
13.94
2.33
4.35
4.35
3.69


2 Max
51
42
8
23
15
22
5
8
10
6


3 Avg
72
27.26
2.68
16.14
11.51
14.64
3.30
4.58
4.18
3.31


3 Max
72
55
9
23
18
23
6
9
9
7


4 Avg
40
48.23
2.23
16.00
10.45
15.05
5.20
6.45
5.10
4.60


4 Max
40
94
6
20
18
20
9
11
9
9


5 Avg
51
56.33
3.16
17.16
10.55
15.73
6.08
7.47
5.82
4.82


5 Max
51
95
11
25
16
25
11
12
13
10


6 Avg
26
69.12
3.27
18.88
11.00
17.27
7.60
8.08
6.85
6.08


6 Max
26
133
13
29
29
24
12
14
12
12


7 Avg
45
86.98
2.91
18.07
10.38
16.44
8.38
8.67
8.98
6.56


7 Max
45
152
13
25
17
24
13
15
19
12


8 Avg
31
96.48
3.19
20.00
10.58
18.32
9.43
9.19
7.65
7.45


8 Max
31
180
10
27
20
26
15
16
14
11


9 Avg
31
130.65
3.61
21.74
10.45
19.68
11.97
12.13
9.81
8.58


9 Max
31
230
14
29
18
28
18
19
22
13


10 Avg
19
136.53
2.79
22.58
9.26
21.42
13.21
11.63
8.58
9.11


10 Max
19
305
8
33
13
33
24
22
19
14


11 Avg
24
163.83
3.96
23.71
10.92
21.38
14.25
13.75
10.63
10.30


11 Max
24
228
15
29
25
27
24
20
25
14


12 Avg
12
196.33
1.58
21.75
7.17
21.75
17.00
15.45
9.33
9.08


12 MAx
12
300
5
28
13
28
30
25
12
15


13 Avg
12
167.00
2.92
27.33
10.25
26.00
14.42
14.17
9.83
12.40


13 Max
12
230
5
32
14
31
20
18
14
16


14 Avg
12
180.33
4.50
27.00
11.0
25.17
16.17
15.92
11.83
14.00


14 Max
12
287
8
35
14
35
23
19
13
18


15 Avg
8
224.63
3.50
29.75
8.13
29.50
18.88
15.75
10.63
15.80


15 Max
8
312
5
34
11
33
24
19
14
20


16 Avg
11
239.09
4.27
31.91
10.00
30.73
21.18
17.09
13.27
16.60


16 Max
11
378
8
42
16
42
31
23
16
23


17 Avg
7
244.86
3.29
28.00
9.57
26.86
20.14
19.57
11.29
16.20


17 Max
7
337
7
34
13
34
27
25
15
19


18 Avg
8
302.25
6.00
32.75
8.50
31.25
24.25
19.50
15.63
19.00


18 Max
8
375
20
37
14
37
30
23
24
23


19 Avg
10
355.80
4.80
36.00
9.20
35.20
27.60
22.10
16.30
19.70


19 Max
10
445
12
38
16
38
33
25
20
21


20 Avg
9
409.33
6.00
36.44
9.11
34.44
39.56
24.22
18.67
21.20


20 Max
9
858
12
40
17
39
48
38
29
23

Gruftzwerg
2020-12-08, 03:38 AM
Great work, I'm grateful for your hard work.
Just a small note: I think BAB is mislabeled and is referring to overall Attack Bonus. Otherwise it gets hard to explain a BAB of 48 imho

Aniikinis
2020-12-08, 05:18 AM
I'll be honest, the only real proofreading I did was to make sure I didn't hit the wrong numbers as I copied it character by character from the original post. Good catch though, I'll update it asap.

Biggus
2020-12-08, 11:49 AM
While looking through some old useful links, I found that quite a few really good ones had broken tables, images, etc.

Thank you! I've been reformatting it bit by bit for weeks now but I keep getting bored and giving up.


Great work, I'm grateful for your hard work.
Just a small note: I think BAB is mislabeled and is referring to overall Attack Bonus. Otherwise it gets hard to explain a BAB of 48 imho

No, it is BAB. The +48 is the Tarrasque.

Gruftzwerg
2020-12-08, 07:18 PM
Thank you! I've been reformatting it bit by bit for weeks now but I keep getting bored and giving up.



No, it is BAB. The +48 is the Tarrasque.

yeah, I noticed it now...

But, don't monsters follow the epic rules for BAB? Anything after past 20 lvl/HD should only get +1 epic attack bonus (and thus not BAB). Seems monster doesn't follow that rule.

Biggus
2020-12-08, 09:11 PM
yeah, I noticed it now...

But, don't monsters follow the epic rules for BAB? Anything after past 20 lvl/HD should only get +1 epic attack bonus (and thus not BAB). Seems monster doesn't follow that rule.

No, BAB from monster HD continues as normal past 20 (ELH p.7, sidebar).

Remuko
2020-12-09, 01:22 AM
yeah, I noticed it now...

But, don't monsters follow the epic rules for BAB? Anything after past 20 lvl/HD should only get +1 epic attack bonus (and thus not BAB). Seems monster doesn't follow that rule.

monsters never use the epic rules for saves and BAB afaik unless they take a class level. RHD are exempt.

Gruftzwerg
2020-12-09, 06:24 AM
monsters never use the epic rules for saves and BAB afaik unless they take a class level. RHD are exempt.

you got me there... I should have thought about that...^^
I guess I never thought about Moster BAB in general and thus went the wrong way on first attempt xD