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Conradine
2020-12-08, 01:14 PM
Does anyone knows a feat, a spell, a ritual, a class, something that allows a character to excise his own soul from his body ( or a part of his soul ) and stay sentient ( aka: playable ) ?

Standard ( Greyhawk ) setting, but third part sources accepted. No homebrew.

Doctor Despair
2020-12-08, 01:22 PM
Quite technically, unless the soul-removal-technique says it renders the character unplayable/nonsentient, it doesn't unless the setting says it does. Bear that in mind.

On that note, is your goal just to get the soul out of the body for some reason? When Two Become One technically temporarily removes the soul from the body and puts it in a horse. The original body is inert, but the soul returns to it when the spell expires (whether in 1 round/level, or 24 hours if persisted).

Conradine
2020-12-08, 01:36 PM
No, the objective is to turn the soul into a fiend while the body and the brain keep the mind and the "self".

137beth
2020-12-08, 01:44 PM
No, the objective is to turn the soul into a fiend while the body and the brain keep the mind and the "self".

Is this a round-about way of making a paladin fall by making it so that the paladin's body still has (fallen) paladin class levels but their soul is now a fiend?:smallconfused:

MaxiDuRaritry
2020-12-08, 01:56 PM
If you've got the outsider type (whether natively or through the Otherworldly feat), use astral projection to pull out your soul. Combine with the mind seed power to copy your mind into your body, then polymorph any object your astrally projected soul into a fiend to make it permanent. Then (greater) bestow curse to render the polymorph any object and astral projection unremovable without removing the curse first.

Of course, to make this even more effective, use Devices (nonmagical "magic" items) from Ravenloft: Legacy of the Blood to render all of the above effects undispellable, undisjunctionable, un-AMF-able, and still effective in a dead magic zone.

Someone else could do it to a character when that character is captured and experimented upon.

Alternatively, dvati with some PAO shenanigans?

Conradine
2020-12-08, 02:47 PM
Is this a round-about way of making a paladin fall by making it so that the paladin's body still has (fallen) paladin class levels but their soul is now a fiend?

No, the idea is to "create your own demon and turn it into your own god".
Something similar to Ars Goetia.



then polymorph any object your astrally projected soul into a fiend to make it permanent.

I would prefer something more... "solemn". More "official".
Like, turning the soul into a Larva by travelling to the Grey Wastes, then making it evolve by feeding it other larvae, liquid pain and the like, untill it becomes an Hordeling... and then more and more powerful.


Then rejoin your original body ( Acolyte of the Skin or something similar ) and become a whole once again.