unseenmage
2020-12-08, 04:41 PM
Need some help searching all of 3.x, PF, and 3rd party for an airship a 6th level character could afford.
We're starting at level 6 and my character is a template stacked incarnate construct artificer//archivist/runecaster.
Normal WBL and WBL mancy won't kick in until after the game has started. SO like if I have a Spell Clock of True Creation that makes gold it won't start running until after the game has begun.
Game is 3.P with emphasis on the PF. Gestalt, mythic, PF tech enabled.
Cheese is enabled with GM permission, 3rd party too.
Monster characters is okay, Constructs are priced by CR. Dragon and Dungeon are allowed. Spheres is allowed but we recently used it to death so we might avoid it on principle.
We've banned epic, magic resetting traps, wish, miracle, gate, binding, simulacrum, genesis, and all their derivatives. They still exist in the game world, we as players just won't use them. Makes things entirely too easy.
Faerun with Spelljammer esque vibes. This character's creator had 'otherworldly inspiration' meaning he could make things literally from other campaign settings and could cheese the rules some. He eventually spoke to his deity and even that guy had no clue how the character was accessing clearly other worldly ideas.
This character is that character's son. A template stacked incarnate construct effigy of his creator/father.
Oh and this character is NG so unlike my normal modus operandi of TN he won't be doing any borderline evil experiments on sentient Construct minions and animal test subjects.
All of that said, my character is supposed to start as an airship captain and I want him to be a vehicles focused artificer who builds himself a crew of 3rd party warforged analogues.
The sticking point is the airship. The damn things are expensive. Especially if you want more than a balloon with a wicker basket under it.
At first I was looking for Construct ships; Aethera 3PP for PF has some, they're good but tech and access requires its own feat.
Then we stumbled on the pricing progression for the Landlord feat and if I cheated access it would actually cost us money at 6th level. Then we thought, hey why not? Just fluff it as a loan shark or overtaxation by greedy nobles.
So we'd build a Feats in Magic (Arms and Equipment Guide sidebar) Wondrous Architecture (Stronghold Builder's Guide) of the Landlord feat in the form of an airship port in a major city, then set sail in what we think is our shiny new airship bought with the funds. But we soon realize that we're flying around in a loaned ship and the interest is piling up. if we have our math correct the ship could cost up to 12,500gp if we use this method. The feat, after cost reducers, would cost me 1,218.75 gp. Not a terrible investment to give the GM a hook to tie us down with.
Now I just need an airship. I want it to hold up to 5 medium creatures and be a vehicle that flies. Preferably a ship that flies. After much digging and reading I might justs ettle for an Animated Object with a fly speed built with the Craft Construct feat so it is a true Construct and not dispellable.
Does the Playground have a better idea? I am all ears at this point.
We're starting at level 6 and my character is a template stacked incarnate construct artificer//archivist/runecaster.
Normal WBL and WBL mancy won't kick in until after the game has started. SO like if I have a Spell Clock of True Creation that makes gold it won't start running until after the game has begun.
Game is 3.P with emphasis on the PF. Gestalt, mythic, PF tech enabled.
Cheese is enabled with GM permission, 3rd party too.
Monster characters is okay, Constructs are priced by CR. Dragon and Dungeon are allowed. Spheres is allowed but we recently used it to death so we might avoid it on principle.
We've banned epic, magic resetting traps, wish, miracle, gate, binding, simulacrum, genesis, and all their derivatives. They still exist in the game world, we as players just won't use them. Makes things entirely too easy.
Faerun with Spelljammer esque vibes. This character's creator had 'otherworldly inspiration' meaning he could make things literally from other campaign settings and could cheese the rules some. He eventually spoke to his deity and even that guy had no clue how the character was accessing clearly other worldly ideas.
This character is that character's son. A template stacked incarnate construct effigy of his creator/father.
Oh and this character is NG so unlike my normal modus operandi of TN he won't be doing any borderline evil experiments on sentient Construct minions and animal test subjects.
All of that said, my character is supposed to start as an airship captain and I want him to be a vehicles focused artificer who builds himself a crew of 3rd party warforged analogues.
The sticking point is the airship. The damn things are expensive. Especially if you want more than a balloon with a wicker basket under it.
At first I was looking for Construct ships; Aethera 3PP for PF has some, they're good but tech and access requires its own feat.
Then we stumbled on the pricing progression for the Landlord feat and if I cheated access it would actually cost us money at 6th level. Then we thought, hey why not? Just fluff it as a loan shark or overtaxation by greedy nobles.
So we'd build a Feats in Magic (Arms and Equipment Guide sidebar) Wondrous Architecture (Stronghold Builder's Guide) of the Landlord feat in the form of an airship port in a major city, then set sail in what we think is our shiny new airship bought with the funds. But we soon realize that we're flying around in a loaned ship and the interest is piling up. if we have our math correct the ship could cost up to 12,500gp if we use this method. The feat, after cost reducers, would cost me 1,218.75 gp. Not a terrible investment to give the GM a hook to tie us down with.
Now I just need an airship. I want it to hold up to 5 medium creatures and be a vehicle that flies. Preferably a ship that flies. After much digging and reading I might justs ettle for an Animated Object with a fly speed built with the Craft Construct feat so it is a true Construct and not dispellable.
Does the Playground have a better idea? I am all ears at this point.