is there a way a neutral or evil character can use ambrosia?

[newguydude1]

i really dont like liquid pain.

maybe polymorphing into a creature with a good subtype?

[magicalmagicman]

Maybe cooperatively craft with a good spellcaster? You just need one of the "creators" to be good to use ambrosia?

[Crake]

maybe polymorphing into a creature with a good subtype?

I mean, yeah, that should actually work.

[newguydude1]

I mean, yeah, that should actually work.

really? could you elaborate?

[sleepyphoenixx]

Maybe cooperatively craft with a good spellcaster? You just need one of the "creators" to be good to use ambrosia?
The ambrosia user would need to be the one actually paying the XP cost, which according to the MIC is always the one supplying the item creation feat.


really? could you elaborate?

Having the good subtype makes you count as good-aligned in addition to your actual alignment, so since ambrosia only requires a good spellcaster (as opposed to a non-evil one) you'd qualify.

The only problem is keeping up the polymorph for the required 8 hours of crafting, assuming your DM doesn't let you get away with only qualifying part of the time.

[newguydude1]

Having the good subtype makes you count as good-aligned in addition to your actual alignment

do you happen to have the page number of this rule? would be super helpful. d20srd link is fine too.


The only problem is keeping up the polymorph for the required 8 hours of crafting, assuming your DM doesn't let you get away with only qualifying part of the time.

its either gonna be persistent lesser holy transformation or lesser holy transformation in combination with a persistent alter self, or the savage species minor ritual that gives you an alignment subtype.

[sleepyphoenixx]

do you happen to have the page number of this rule? would be super helpful. d20srd link is fine too.
Right in the description for the good subtype (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#goodSubtype).

A subtype usually applied only to outsiders native to the good-aligned Outer Planes. Most creatures that have this subtype also have good alignments; however, if their alignments change, they still retain the subtype. Any effect that depends on alignment affects a creature with this subtype as if the creature has a good alignment, no matter what its alignment actually is. The creature also suffers effects according to its actual alignment. A creature with the good subtype overcomes damage reduction as if its natural weapons and any weapons it wields were good-aligned (see Damage Reduction, above).

[newguydude1]

Right in the description for the good subtype (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#goodSubtype).

marvelous. thank you.

[Thurbane]

For long term polymorph, you could also use the Phylactery of Change (A&EG p.135; 11,200 gp): it's a 1/day polymorph item, and the duration of the polymorph is indefinite until you change it to something else.