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newguydude1
2020-12-19, 02:09 PM
so if a divine spellcaster creates a scroll of animate dead its gonna be divine.
but what if he cooperates with a wizard? like the wizard provides the spell, or the caster level, or the feat, and the cleric provides the rest.
is the resulting scroll arcane? divine? can we choose?

sreservoir
2020-12-19, 03:00 PM
The actual rule, as written, is:

The spell must be of the correct type (arcane or divine). Arcane spellcasters (wizards, sorcerers, and bards) can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters (clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers) can only use scrolls containing divine spells. (The type of scroll a character creates is also determined by his or her class. For example, clerics create scrolls of divine spells, wizards create scrolls of arcane spells, and so forth.)

Who's the creator? Well,

If two or more characters cooperate to create an item, they must agree among themselves who will be considered the creator for the purpose of determinations where the creator’s level must be known. (It’s generally sensible, although not mandatory, for the highest-level character involved to be considered the creator.) The character designated as the creator pays the XP required to make the item.

Basically, as far as RAW is concerned, it's whoever you pick to pay the XP. Normally this doesn't matter a whole lot, and you'd want to match the party member with the spell on their spell list anyway (to skip the UMD check). You might, under rare (in Core) circumstances, want to make the scroll divine if the user is going to have to UMD it anyway, to avoid ASF, but the usual culprits (bards, familiars) aren't likely to otherwise need to roll ASF anyway.

It only really starts looking dysfunctional when you bring the archivist into the picture.

newguydude1
2020-12-19, 03:19 PM
The actual rule, as written, is:


Who's the creator? Well,


Basically, as far as RAW is concerned, it's whoever you pick to pay the XP. Normally this doesn't matter a whole lot, and you'd want to match the party member with the spell on their spell list anyway (to skip the UMD check). You might, under rare (in Core) circumstances, want to make the scroll divine if the user is going to have to UMD it anyway, to avoid ASF, but the usual culprits (bards, familiars) aren't likely to otherwise need to roll ASF anyway.

It only really starts looking dysfunctional when you bring the archivist into the picture.

mic has an addendum


All items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of feats and spells that the item’s creator must know, although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed. It’s perfectly acceptable for two or more characters to work together to create a magic item, with each character supplying some of the prerequisites. (In all places where this text refers to the “creator” of a magic item, it includes all characters supplying at least one prerequisite for the item’s creation.) The
XP cost must always be paid by the character who supplies the item creation feat required by the item, no matter how many other characters cooperate in its creation.

DarkOne-Rob
2020-12-19, 05:49 PM
If you are the DM or the DM is flexible, I recommend any Cleric with the Magic Domain be allowed to do this, though it should have some additional cost or difficulty attached.

Just my 2 cp.