newguydude1
2021-01-19, 11:32 PM
You use material from the Plane of Shadow to shape quasi-real illusions of one or more creatures, objects, or forces. Shadow conjuration can mimic any sorcerer or wizard conjuration (summoning) or conjuration (creation) spell of 3rd level or lower.
i think the answer is no. theyre not summoned, theyre created, and theyre illusions, so they shouldnt be treated like summoned creatures for anything, including stuff like protection from evil. which is why they also receive 0 benefit with summoning boosting feats and items.
which is why i also think they dont disappear upon reaching 0hp. i think they bleed out.
shadow conjuration can mimic any summon monster spell. but nowhere does it say that the spell gets the descriptor of the spell it mimics.
so if you use shadow conjuration to create a shadow celestial dog, the spell is a illusion (shadow) not illusion (shadow, good) or illusion (shadow, good, summon) because shadow conjuration doesnt say it gains the spell descriptors of the spell its mimicking, and although smi says you gain the good descriptor when summoning a celestial dog, your not summoning anything, so you don't get the good descriptor.
which makes sense because your not summoning a creature. your creating a quasi-real illusion.
so this means that augment summoning cannot work with shadow conjuration because its not a summon. but on the other hand, protection from evil, a spell that prevents summoned creatures from harming the warded creature, should offer no protection from the shadow creature because its not a summoned creature right?
or am i wrong?
i think the answer is no. theyre not summoned, theyre created, and theyre illusions, so they shouldnt be treated like summoned creatures for anything, including stuff like protection from evil. which is why they also receive 0 benefit with summoning boosting feats and items.
which is why i also think they dont disappear upon reaching 0hp. i think they bleed out.
shadow conjuration can mimic any summon monster spell. but nowhere does it say that the spell gets the descriptor of the spell it mimics.
so if you use shadow conjuration to create a shadow celestial dog, the spell is a illusion (shadow) not illusion (shadow, good) or illusion (shadow, good, summon) because shadow conjuration doesnt say it gains the spell descriptors of the spell its mimicking, and although smi says you gain the good descriptor when summoning a celestial dog, your not summoning anything, so you don't get the good descriptor.
which makes sense because your not summoning a creature. your creating a quasi-real illusion.
so this means that augment summoning cannot work with shadow conjuration because its not a summon. but on the other hand, protection from evil, a spell that prevents summoned creatures from harming the warded creature, should offer no protection from the shadow creature because its not a summoned creature right?
or am i wrong?