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liquidformat
2021-04-02, 01:37 PM
So I am trying to get a list of all the 'cat' gods out there what their Alignments are and domains.

Secondarily I wanted to get everyone's opinion as to what the alignments and domains should be for the Cat Gods presented in Fabulous Cats! (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fools/20030401c)

Cat Gods:
Bast/Bastet/Sharess CG Domains: Animal, Cat, Chaos, Destruction, Luck, Protection, Strength, Trickery, War; Weapon: Tiger claws (spiked gauntlet)
The Cat Lord CN Domains: Chaos, Travel, Trickery; Weapon: Dagger (DC)
Felix (Famous Cartoon)
Black cat has a bag of tricks and is humorous, good natured, and sometimes food obsessed. I think this might be another CG with Trickery Cat, Luck and not sure what else.
Garfield (Famous cartoon)
An overweight orange tabby cat noted for his laziness, smug sarcasm, and intense passion for food. I could see him having some sort of chaotic alignment, besides the Cat domain I could see
Gluttony and maybe wrath.
Hobbes (Famous Comic)
Definitely chaotic could maybe make a good demon?
Morris (Spokes cat for 9Lives cat food)
An orange tabby described as sarcastic and the 'world's most finicky cat'. Not really sure here I will have to look into Morris' commercials if I can find them online
Nobanion LG Domains: Animal, Fey, Good, Law, Nobility, Pride Weapon: heavy pick
Peg Leg-Pete (Disney Villain who I always thought was a dog...)
the Wrath, War domains
Schrodinger (Cat of paradox)
Schrodinger paradox is that if you put a cat in a sealed up box with poison it is both alive and dead until you open the box. I could see Schrodinger being evil besides Cat domain I think Death,
Fate and maybe Time?

Bullet06320
2021-04-02, 01:51 PM
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Nobanion

Nobanion FR god of royalty, lions, wemics and other felines

Palanan
2021-04-02, 01:56 PM
If you're including Felix, Garfield and Morris, surely there's room for Hobbes. Clearly CG with Luck, Trickery and the Tuna subdomain.

Silly Name
2021-04-02, 02:11 PM
Garfield clearly is at war with all Time gods, in his eternal crusade to forever eliminate mondays from the calendar.

Pete Leg-Pete is a cat, clearly CE, with the Wrath and War domains. Locked in eternal struggle against the Mouse that Shall Not Be Named.

Tigger is a CN god. Is there such a thing as the Jumping domain?
(he also has no worshippers because the most wonderful thing about tiggers is that he's the only one! Definitely would fit the Pride domain)

liquidformat
2021-04-02, 02:15 PM
If you're including Felix, Garfield and Morris, surely there's room for Hobbes. Clearly CG with Luck, Trickery and the Tuna subdomain.

I will have to take a look around but I think there is backing out there that Hobbes is CE, kind of the devil on your shoulder type. Heck maybe he should be some sort of demon with a cult...

Bullet06320
2021-04-02, 02:19 PM
Hobbes. Clearly CG with Luck, Trickery and the Tuna subdomain.
is Calvin his familar, Divine minion or chosen?

https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?556778-Kitties-of-3-5&p=23022133

this thread might help

liquidformat
2021-04-02, 02:42 PM
is Calvin his familar, Divine minion or chosen?

I am still liking Hobbes being some arch Demon inhabiting a stuffed animal to corrupt Calvin, though that would make Calvin his Cultist.

Palanan
2021-04-02, 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Bullet06320
is Calvin his familar, Divine minion or chosen?

Calvin is clearly a Time Lord.


Originally Posted by liquidformat
*snip*

No.

Batcathat
2021-04-02, 02:59 PM
I am still liking Hobbes being some arch Demon inhabiting a stuffed animal to corrupt Calvin, though that would make Calvin his Cultist.

If anything, Hobbes seems like a good-ish influence on Calvin. Not by very much and not very successfully, but from what I remember he's a lot more likely than Calvin to show a little empathy towards others.

liquidformat
2021-04-02, 03:03 PM
Calvin is clearly a Time Lord.



No.

Take a look at Calvin and Hobbes Fight Club (http://timhulsizer.com/cwords/cfightclub.html) this is what I was thinking of with the Hobbes is a corruption demon thing.

Also I could see Time Lord though not all of them are good...

Particle_Man
2021-04-02, 05:02 PM
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Bugbear
2021-04-02, 05:10 PM
Ai-Apaec, a god of the pre-Inca civilization known as the Mochica, was often depicted as an old man with a wrinkled face, long fangs and cat-like whiskers. He was said to have evolved from one of the ancient cat gods and to be able to assume the form of a tomcat.

A cat god called Li Shou appears in the Chinese Book of Rites. He was worshipped by farmers because he protected the crops from being eaten by rats and mice.

In ancient Poland, Ovinnik, who appeared in the form of a black cat, was worshipped by many farming families because he watched over domestic animals and chased away evil-natured ghosts and mischievous fairies.

Tom Cat-Tom and Jerry

Sylvester- Loony Toons

Tigger- Winne the Pooh

The Pink Panther- Heavens to Mercuroid!

Salem- Sabrina the teen aged witch

SimonMoon6
2021-04-02, 05:56 PM
The Pink Panther- Heavens to Mercuroid!


You may be mixing up two different characters.

The Pink Panther tends not to speak in cartoons.

However, Snagglepuss is the pink feline who says "Heavens to Murgatroyd" and other things like "Exit... Stage Left!"

For more about "heavens to murgatroyd":

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/heavens-to-murgatroyd.html#:~:text=%27Heavens%20to%20Murgatro yd%27%20is%20American%20in%20origin%20and,was%20th e%20template%20for%20the%20later%20Pink%20Panther.

Particle_Man
2021-04-02, 06:39 PM
Another cat god: The Cowardly Lion from The Wizard of Oz!

Slightly less well-known: The Hungry Tiger.

I suppose: Shere Khan and Bagheera from The Jungle Book also deserve mentions.

Bullet06320
2021-04-02, 11:53 PM
Tony the Tiger "THERRRRRRE GREATTTTTT!!!!!!!" and his frosted flake minions

there's always the Thunder Cats

Heathcliff

ShurikVch
2021-04-03, 07:52 AM
Ferrix (https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ferrix)
Talisid (https://gamelore.fandom.com/wiki/Talisid)?

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OracleofWuffing
2021-04-04, 04:31 AM
Maru the Round (https://www.youtube.com/user/mugumogu/videos) (LG), god of boxes (with retainers Hannah the Star (NG) and Miri the Playful (CG)).
Fatso the Muse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_Cat) (TN), god of music.
Nyan the Pastry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyan_Cat) (CG), deity of stars and rainbows.
Longcat (LG) and Tacgnol (CE), dueling gods of observation.
Tama the Station Master (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tama_(cat)) (LN), goddess of travel.
Oskar the Unsinkable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam) (TN), god of hope and water.
Happy the Hungry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Can_Has_Cheezburger%3F) (CG), god of food. (Or maybe Frank or Mischa, it's up to debate on what the actual name of the Can Has Cheezburger cat is.)
Browser the Librarian (CN), god of books and knowledge.
Korin (https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Korin) (LN), god of martial arts and harvests.
Beerus (https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Beerus) (LE), god of destruction.
Thurston the Waffle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MYQVa2wA5Q) (CN), god of drama and shrimp.
Smudge the Smug (https://time.com/5762380/woman-yelling-at-cat-meme/) (CN), god of chairs and tables.
Acro (https://youtu.be/-gb8HQQ5XrA?t=1217) (NG), god of warmth, clean dishes, and ducks.
Sparta the Mean (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsbL6CahtvE) (CN), god of war.
Jellie the Cubed (https://hermitcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Jellie) (LN), goddess of mayors, valuables, and building.

Schröodinger starts with the Fate domain, and then you flip a coin every day to determine if you add death and pestilence or life and luck that day.

Alternatively they're all Chaotic Neutral because I mean they are cats. :smallbiggrin:

MR_Anderson
2021-04-06, 01:45 PM
Disney has much to offer.

Si and Am - Villain Siamese cats from Lady and the Tramp. Certainly they are CE gods of Mischief.

Scar - Main villain from Lion King. Neutral Evil with Lawful tendencies as he has the hyenas do the non-lawful acts. God of Envy, the Night, and Destruction.

Simba - Chaotic Good with Lawful Tendencies. God of rebirth, luck, and protection.

Nala - Neutral Good with Lawful Tendencies. God of fertility, seduction, and music.

Mufasa - Lawful Good god or Power, Protection, and Order. Won’t stop talking about some circle of life.

Bagheera - The Black Panther from Jungle Book. LN god of wisdom, knowledge, and order.

Shere Khan (a.k.a. Lungri) - Main Villain from the Jungle Book. LE god of power and deception.

Leonidas (King) - Minor antagonist on the island of Naboombu from Bedknobs and Broomsticks. Would be a TN god of sport and sound.


Disney has some other movies like The Aristocats and the Cat from Outerspace, but I’ll leave those two atrocities and their characters to you.

Tzardok
2021-04-06, 02:26 PM
Simba - Chaotic Good with Lawful Tendencies. God of rebirth, luck, and protection.

Chaotic with lawful tendencies? Doesn't compute. :smalleek:


Shere Khan (a.k.a. Lungri) - Main Villain from the Jungle Book. LE god of power and deception.

Why exactly decption? I don't remember him being anything but straightforward in his dealings. He didn't even sneak around a lot. Deception is much more Scar's alley.


Leonidas (King) - Minor antagonist on the island of Naboombu from Bedknobs and Broomsticks. Would be a TN god of sport and sound.

I feel his specific kind of egotism fits more with CN.

MR_Anderson
2021-04-06, 06:46 PM
Chaotic with lawful tendencies? Doesn't compute. :smalleek:
Almost the entire movie Simba is carefree (Chaotic) except when he finally faces his responsibility to the order he is supposed rule. It is as if only in that role he is LG. He struggles because he is not the LG power house that his Father was and he has to learn to wear that LG mantle.

It is sort of like how a vampire (in non-d&d lore) may have been a good character and he struggles with it, but lapses temporarily into Evil to feed, or to fulfill the Vampire needs only to revert back to Good for everything else.

In this way, Simba would hold LG in Kingly duties, while CG in everything else. I originally was going to say NG, but either way he falls short of being Lawful and leans towards Chaos most of the movie.


Why exactly decption? I don't remember him being anything but straightforward in his dealings. He didn't even sneak around a lot. Deception is much more Scar's alley.
The deception comes more so from the actual writings of Kipling and not so much the Disney movie. Shere Khan in the books does more political maneuvering than Scar ever does, while in the movie he is simply a single force of destructive evil, in the books Khan has much more depth to his character, and is even lame, giving more reason why a boy could defeat a grown tiger.

In the book, Khan basically plots with the young wolves to overthrow their leader Akela so Khan can complete his hunt that he previously failed in catching Mowgli as an infant, because the baby had been saved and now raised by Raksha and Rama under Akela’s protection as the Wolfpack leader. Shere Khan is successful in his plot to overthrow Akela.



I feel his specific kind of egotism fits more with CN.
I could see that, but unlike with Simba in the Lion King we don’t see much character development with him, and while he is chaotic at times he has some sense of law and order that he maintains on the Island of Naboombu, and for that reason I slid him towards the center allowing him to go both ways as needed.

St Fan
2021-04-07, 12:18 PM
You can have a look here:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Felines

hamishspence
2021-04-07, 04:14 PM
The deception comes more so from the actual writings of Kipling and not so much the Disney movie. Shere Khan in the books does more political maneuvering than Scar ever does, while in the movie he is simply a single force of destructive evil, in the books Khan has much more depth to his character, and is even lame, giving more reason why a boy could defeat a grown tiger.


The lameness doesn't play a huge part in his defeat though - it's more a reason why he needs to hunt cattle instead of wild animals. He hunts humans more for hatred than out of necessity though.

Having stuffed himself with food, he's easily trampled by Mowgli's herd of buffaloes - after being cornered in a ravine. Even a non-lame tiger would have been moderately easy to corner and trample in those circumstances.


You can have a look here:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Felines

Yup. Shere Khan's entry is elsewhere though: under Character Adaptations:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/CharacterAdaptations

Shere Khan, God of Being Stronger in Adaptations
Alignment: Neutral Evil bordering on Chaotic Evil (a dark shade of Lawful Neutral as a businessman)

Given the whole "breaking the Jungle Law by hunting Man regularly" thing, NE works well - he's good at political manipulation, but not necessarily in a very "Lawful" way.

The 1994 movie version is probably the most "Lawful" - painted as an enforcer of the "Jungle Law" rather than a chronic breaker of it.

ShurikVch
2021-04-07, 06:06 PM
Disney has much to offer.

...

Disney has some other movies like The Aristocats and the Cat from Outerspace, but I’ll leave those two atrocities and their characters to you.
If we looking at Disney, then Aladdin have Mirage (https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Mirage_(Aladdin)) and Chaos (https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos)

Some non-Disney examples:
Dark Kat (https://swatkats.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Kat) (SWAT Kats)
Demon Cat (https://adventuretime.fandom.com/wiki/Demon_Cat) (Adventure Time)
Evil the Cat (https://earthwormjim.fandom.com/wiki/Evil_the_Cat) (Earthworm Jim)
General Cat (https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.ru.5eaaf621-606e336d-62fb8fb3-74722d776562/https/sova.fandom.com/ru/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB_%D0%9A% D0%BE%D1%82#.D0.92.D0.BD.D0.B5.D1.88.D0.BD.D0.B8.D 0.B9_.D0.B2.D0.B8.D0.B4) (Suspicious Owl)
The Great Black Cat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fyunot4qVY) (Big Secret for a Small Company) - god of black cats, black (cat) magic, feline superiority ("There is no stronger beast than cat!"), and subjugation of dogs and horses
Indrix XIII (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kABR0IZZls) (Fantadroms) - god of rescues, space travels, and friendship
Sonya the First (Romka, Fomka, and Artos) - owner of magical island, and master of monstrous Klyk-Klyk-Grumbumbes. In the adaptation (1 (https://disk.yandex.ru/i/V_YbhwZm6OnXxQ), 2 (https://disk.yandex.ru/i/H36WjQO2biJjVQ), 3 (https://disk.yandex.ru/i/iAPLxv8j5MVMCw)), never was mentioned by the name - just "the Cat"; we know the name only from the original book

Telonius
2021-04-07, 11:41 PM
I believe the standard feline opinion is that cats don't have gods, they are gods.

Internet-derived deities

Ceiling Cat: Lawful Good. Domain: Light, Healing, Law, Good.
Basement Cat: Lawful Evil. Domain: Darkness, Destruction, Law, Evil.
Invisible Bike Cat: True Neutral. Domains: Travel, Protection, Strength, Balance.
Cheezburger Cat: True Netural. Domains: Feast, Luck
Grumpy Cat: Neutral Grumpy. Domains: Knowledge, Endurance, Passion

Batcathat
2021-04-08, 02:06 AM
I believe the standard feline opinion is that cats don't have gods, they are gods.

Indeed. I think this Terry Pratchett quote sums it up nicely: “In ancient times cats were worshipped as gods; they have not forgotten this.” :smallamused:

Lin
2021-04-08, 04:09 AM
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MR_Anderson
2021-04-08, 02:10 PM
When I saw the title, I thought this would be about...


I lived in Japan for 8 years, and I am quite familiar with what you mentioned, and thought about sharing them.

However, I specifically did not bring them up because discussion about Real World Religious things has absolutely no leeway to be discussed here.

DwarvenWarCorgi
2021-04-08, 11:52 PM
In The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath, Lovecraft writes of intelligent felines jumping to hidden cities on the moon. Don't remember any specific names though..

Surprised no ones mentioned Goose (https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Goose)

Bohandas
2021-04-09, 02:35 AM
The deception comes more so from the actual writings of Kipling and not so much the Disney movie. Shere Khan in the books does more political maneuvering than Scar ever does, while in the movie he is simply a single force of destructive evil, in the books Khan has much more depth to his character, and is even lame, giving more reason why a boy could defeat a grown tiger.

In the book, Khan basically plots with the young wolves to overthrow their leader Akela so Khan can complete his hunt that he previously failed in catching Mowgli as an infant, because the baby had been saved and now raised by Raksha and Rama under Akela’s protection as the Wolfpack leader. Shere Khan is successful in his plot to overthrow Akela

Even Disney eventually depicts him as scheming and manipulative as well. The anthropomorphic version of him in Tale Spin is an amoral business slimeball.

ShurikVch
2021-04-15, 01:31 PM
Tezcatlipoca (Dragon #352): his sacred animal is jaguar, and he take that form sometimes

Nergal (https://oots.fandom.com/wiki/Nergal) - leonine head and tail

Tiger (https://oots.fandom.com/wiki/Tiger)

Gripe-men-all, Archduke of the Furred Law-cats. (Gargantua and Pantagruel)