View Full Version : Swarms and reach of 0
AttilatheYeon
2021-04-19, 01:03 AM
So there are a lot of monsters with a reach of zero especially swarms. When a swarm occupies your space to attack you does it get an OA if you leave it's space?
Segev
2021-04-19, 01:13 AM
Yes. You left its reach.
Avonar
2021-04-19, 01:40 AM
Yes they would. I do sometimes tend to rule that you can't move away from certain swarms without a disengage action, since how do you run away from spiders crawling on your legs?
AttilatheYeon
2021-04-19, 03:52 AM
Yes. You left its reach.
Yes they would. I do sometimes tend to rule that you can't move away from certain swarms without a disengage action, since how do you run away from spiders crawling on your legs?
Thanks guys, I wanted to make sure.
Hytheter
2021-04-19, 04:40 AM
Yes they would. I do sometimes tend to rule that you can't move away from certain swarms without a disengage action, since how do you run away from spiders crawling on your legs?
I guess you'd be running from the swarm as a whole, and the spiders that remain stuck on your legs are just not enough to meaningfully harm you.
Unoriginal
2021-04-19, 04:46 AM
A swarm with a Sentinel type effect would be pretty scary.
Now I'm imagining PCs being attacked by a swarm of animated toy soldiers.
Imbalance
2021-04-19, 07:43 AM
Yes they would. I do sometimes tend to rule that you can't move away from certain swarms without a disengage action, since how do you run away from spiders crawling on your legs?
I like this. I would allow them to move, but have the swarm "hitch a ride" on the moving character unless they spend their action to "getitoff!getitoff!getitoff!!!" I think some of them are like that, RAW? I'm recalling Despotellis from HeroClix, might be infecting my memory for D&D monsters.
Segev
2021-04-19, 08:37 AM
Yes they would. I do sometimes tend to rule that you can't move away from certain swarms without a disengage action, since how do you run away from spiders crawling on your legs?
I like this. I would allow them to move, but have the swarm "hitch a ride" on the moving character unless they spend their action to "getitoff!getitoff!getitoff!!!" I think some of them are like that, RAW? I'm recalling Despotellis from HeroClix, might be infecting my memory for D&D monsters.
If it weren't for the fact that the rules as written model it poorly for this circumstance, I'd run this using the DMG's "climbing on a larger creature" rules. Or maybe grappling rules, just with the swarm compelling the target to grapple them.
Maybe the swarm can use Dexterity in place of Strength for this.
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