trick for Int to attack

[Elves]

Kung Fu Genius feat lets you "use your Intelligence modifier rather than Wisdom modifier for all monk special abilities that normally rely on Wisdom." If that includes the DC of your Stunning Fist attacks -- which it should, because the feat is an [ex] special ability granted by the monk class -- it would also apply to other monk bonus feats. The martial monk ACF lets you pick Intuitive Attack as a monk bonus feat, which then becomes Int to attack instead of Wis to attack. Seems useful for many builds that would be taking Kung Fu Genius.

[Rebel7284]

Intuitive Attack is a feat, not a Monk class feature. Not sure why this would work.

[Troacctid]

Also, Kung Fu Genius doesn't affect your Stunning Fist DCs, unless you're playing under 3.0 rules for some reason.

[Zarvistic]

Also, Kung Fu Genius doesn't affect your Stunning Fist DCs, unless you're playing under 3.0 rules for some reason.
It's a monk special ability tho, why not?

[Troacctid]

It's a monk special ability tho, why not?
No, it's a feat, not a monk ability. Any class can get it. Monks just have more daily uses.

[Zarvistic]

No, it's a feat, not a monk ability. Any class can get it. Monks just have more daily uses.
Oh that's right, stunning fist feels so monk to me, I totally forgot it's actually a feat.

[Elves]

Also, Kung Fu Genius doesn't affect your Stunning Fist DCs, unless you're playing under 3.0 rules for some reason.
The similar feat Carmendine Monk affects Stunning Fist, and the feat is gained as a monk special ability. It's not explicit, but there's a strong case for it.

[Troacctid]

The similar feat Carmendine Monk affects Stunning Fist, and the feat is gained as a monk special ability. It's not explicit, but there's a strong case for it.
Carmendine Monk doesn't affect monk class features. It specifically affects three things: monk AC bonus, quivering palm, and stunning fist. Two of them are monk abilities, and the other is a feat that anyone can take. If you have other monk abilities that use Wisdom (such as soulwarp strike), they still use Wisdom. If you have Stunning Fist as a normal feat rather than a monk bonus feat, it still uses Intelligence. That's how Carmendine Monk works. Kung Fu Genius works differently.

[Elves]

Per the FAQ, feats are [Ex], so they are special abilities. Is a special ability granted by the monk class a monk special ability? Yes.

In fact, that's necessarily the definition of "monk special ability", because if you took any monk feature and copypasted it into a different class, it would cease to be a monk ability. Thus, nothing about these abilities is inherently a monk ability: their "monkness" is in being granted by the monk class, nothing more.

With that established, there's no grounds to claim they are monk abilities but a bonus feat granted by the class is not.

[sreservoir]

And the feat granted by heroics cast by a 4th-level warlock taking 10 on the UMD check is a warlock special ability, no doubt, by virtue of that action depending on a warlock class feature in the "Special" column...

[ShurikVch]

Note: effect of Control Body (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/controlBody.htm) gives you Int to both attack and damage...

[Elves]

And the feat granted by heroics cast by a 4th-level warlock taking 10 on the UMD check is a warlock special ability, no doubt, by virtue of that action depending on a warlock class feature in the "Special" column...
No, because it's not granted by the warlock class, only accessed through a warlock ability, and spells from spell items aren't special abilities (SLA or Su).


Note: effect of Control Body (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/controlBody.htm) gives you Int to both attack and damage...
But requires concentration by the caster + precludes AoOs. IIRC there are ways to have your psicrystal cast it on you. and with psionics-magic transparency I guess sonorous hum works. I'm not well versed in psionics.

[Metastachydium]

(How about Master with the sage primary focus? It has a knack which is literally about adding INT (instead of STR/DEX) to all attack rolls.)

[Elves]

(How about Master with the sage primary focus? It has a knack which is literally about adding INT (instead of STR/DEX) to all attack rolls.)
I didn't know about that, but looks like it also has restrictions: can't be done on 1st round of combat and costs a move action for each enemy you apply it to.