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Larbek24
2021-06-01, 03:03 PM
I'm searching for every way that changes or increases a classes/characters BAB. I don't care if it is an item, a spell, a feat or a class variant.

The things I found are:

Tenser's Transformation (Spell/PHB): Increases BAB to good.
Divine Power (Spell/PHB): Increases BAB to good.

Battle Sorcerer (Class Variant/UA): Increases Sorceror BAB to medium.
Cloistered Cleric (Class Variant/UA): Decreases Cleric BAB to bad.

Elven Blood, Fire Elf (Feat/AEG Feats (3rd Party)): Increases BAB by 1.

Do you know more things?

Particle_Man
2021-06-01, 03:47 PM
The skillful weapon enhancement changes BAB to at least medium BAB for that weapon.

Maat Mons
2021-06-01, 05:15 PM
And the Skillful enhancement can also be placed on a Necklace of Natural Weapons. Useful on Tashalatora Psions.

Thurbane
2021-06-01, 05:21 PM
For characters/creatures with racial hit dice, some templates change the BAB for your RHD: https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?574893-3-5-Templates-That-Boost-BAB

Zarvistic
2021-06-01, 09:17 PM
Frenzied hunt feat - make bab good.
Divine fury feat - add cha bonus to bab.

Both from dragon magazine.

Arael666
2021-06-01, 09:38 PM
And the Skillful enhancement can also be placed on a Necklace of Natural Weapons. Useful on Tashalatora Psions.

Don't monks and pw's already have madium bab?

Anthrowhale
2021-06-01, 09:47 PM
The spell Investiture of the Pit Fiend also sets BAB=character level.

Particle_Man
2021-06-01, 11:33 PM
Don't monks and pw's already have madium bab?

Yes. Psions have poor BAB.

Remuko
2021-06-01, 11:45 PM
Don't monks and pw's already have madium bab?

they said psion not psychic warrior which doesnt have medium :)

Aharon
2021-06-02, 12:40 AM
Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Focus add +1 to BAB each, Weapon Mastery from PHBII adds another +2 to a weapon group.

Gruftzwerg
2021-06-02, 01:47 AM
Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Focus add +1 to BAB each, Weapon Mastery from PHBII adds another +2 to a weapon group.

Weapon Focus doesn't target your BAB (Base Attack Bonus: determines possible iterative attacks in a full attack), it targets your Attack Bonus (AB):

You gain a +1 bonus on all attack rolls you make using the selected weapon.

Attack Rolls != Base Attack Bonus

Two different terms/stats.

Thurbane
2021-06-02, 02:03 AM
Frenzied hunt feat - make bab good.
Divine fury feat - add cha bonus to bab.

Wow, that's a great pickup! How have I not heard of these before? :smallsmile:


Both from dragon magazine.

...oh.:smallfrown:

Out of interest, do you know which issues?

Gruftzwerg
2021-06-02, 02:13 AM
Wow, that's a great pickup! How have I not heard of these before? :smallsmile:



...oh.:smallfrown:

Out of interest, do you know which issues?

Frenzied Hunt feat #342
Divine Fury feat #305

Darg
2021-06-02, 10:51 AM
Soulbow PRC increases BAB which makes it technically possible to get 5 attacks from BAB if you have a source of BAB increase like transformation or divine power.

Particle_Man
2021-06-02, 07:09 PM
Soulbow PRC increases BAB which makes it technically possible to get 5 attacks from BAB if you have a source of BAB increase like transformation or divine power.

Wait, what? How?

Khatoblepas
2021-06-02, 07:41 PM
Wait, what? How?


Your mind arrows improve as you gain higher levels. At 3rd level, a mind arrow gains a +1 enhancement bonus on attack rolls and damage rolls, and at 7th level the bonus improves to +2. These enhancement bonuses stack with previous enhancement bonuses gained earlier for your soulknife class levels. Likewise, these enhancement bonuses also improve your soulknife base attack bonus

It's pretty wild, that's the first enhancement bonus to BAB I've ever seen.

Maat Mons
2021-06-02, 07:48 PM
A Kensai can use Instill to increase someone else's base attack bonus at the expense of his own.

Bard's Inspire Greatness increases your number of hit dice. This doesn't alter your base attack bonus on its own, but if you use Divine Power or similar to set your base attack bonus to your hit dice...

War Chanter's Inspire Legion ability allows every party member to use the base attack of whoever has the highest one.

Particle_Man
2021-06-02, 08:50 PM
It's pretty wild, that's the first enhancement bonus to BAB I've ever seen.

So is the bonus added twice (once to BAB, once as an enhancement bonus to the mind weapon)?

Darg
2021-06-02, 10:22 PM
So is the bonus added twice (once to BAB, once as an enhancement bonus to the mind weapon)?


Your mind arrows improve as you gain higher levels. At 3rd level, a mind arrow gains a +1 enhancement bonus on attack rolls and damage rolls, and at 7th level the bonus improves to +2. These enhancement bonuses stack with previous enhancement bonuses gained earlier for your soulknife class levels. Likewise, these enhancement bonuses also improve your soulknife base attack bonus. If your return to your soulknife class progression, these mind arrow enhancement bonuses on attack and damage are cumulative bonuses on top of any new enhancement bonuses gained, and they benefit both your mind blade and mind arrows.

Yes, it is. It is a weapon enhancement bonus and an enhancement bonus directly to the soulknife's BAB. So each +1 is worth +2 AB.

MaxiDuRaritry
2021-06-02, 10:46 PM
How about gaining levels? Because that typically improves your BAB. And multiclassing BAB is improved by utilizing the fractional BAB variant (which should be standard, not a variant).

Anything that gives you HD, even if it's not gaining enough XP to gain a level, like lycanthropy, the curse of lycanthropy spell (which grants temporary, dispellable lycanthropy), the druid's awaken spell (including on critters that have changed creature type to plant or animal through various effects), and the bard's inspire greatness ability. Note that multiple types of lycanthropy can be gained by a single character, since nothing prevents it, and you still qualify for the lycanthrope template even after you've already gotten it once. Just choose a different type of animal.

You can manipulate your own XP totals permanently upwards if you combine one of the above means of gaining HD with permanent negative levels and either a thought bottle or a casting of restoration.

Rebel7284
2021-06-03, 12:13 AM
You can manipulate your own XP totals permanently upwards if you combine one of the above means of gaining HD with permanent negative levels and either a thought bottle or a casting of restoration.

This is REAL poorly defined and DM dependent, so check with your game's DM :)

As for methods of gaining BAB, I think all the common methods have been covered except for changing shape into something that can gain HD such as Barghest.

Gruftzwerg
2021-06-04, 12:19 PM
It's pretty wild, that's the first enhancement bonus to BAB I've ever seen.

It was changed in the (officially unreleased) errata (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dbmkg8efcbn4eak/AABVNzqrUl0ayi9QiyJTdbsLa/Nijineko_Archive/Complete_Psionic_Errata?dl=0&preview=Complete_Psionic_Errata_BRC0705.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1):

p. 36, Soulbow, 2nd column, Mind Arrow, 6th paragraph:Fix: delete sentence “Likewise, these enhancement bonuses also improve your base soulknife attack bonus.”

MaxiDuRaritry
2021-06-04, 12:36 PM
Along with the barghest's ability to eat things for HD, Heroes of Horror has dusk giants, which have the following:


Cannibalize (Ex): Dusk giants gain power -- Strength, Constitution, even size and mystical abilities -- by consuming other creatures. For every 5 Hit Dice of sentient (Intelligence 3+) living creatures or every 20 Hit Dice of nonsentient living creatures that a dusk giant consumes, it gains 1 Hit Die.

There's also using the fusion power to merge with something with a higher BAB.