Can you wear a magic shirt and a magic pair of shorts if both are different types of

[eyebreaker7]

Or would they be considered as ONE "suit" of "armor"?

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Technically he looks like he's wearing a loin cloth or something similar but I'd like to change it to shorts/swim shorts.

Msybe one take up the armor slot and the other be something else separate? Like wearing a chain shirt for armor but your lower body is still covered by something?

[Maat Mons]

A magic shirt more typically occupies the Torso body slot than the Body body slot. Magic shorts should probably occupy the Waist body slot, but none have ever been printed, to my knowledge.

[aglondier]

A magic shirt more typically occupies the Torso body slot than the Body body slot. Magic shorts should probably occupy the Waist body slot, but none have ever been printed, to my knowledge.

With the number of electronic rpgs that feature a "pants" slot in the inventory, I don't think it would be a hard call to houserule a pants magic item slot. Opens up options for loincloths, bikinis, trousers, chaps, posing pouches, codpieces, etc...

[ShurikVch]

FWIW, Oriental Adventures have magical hakama ("knee-length trousers"), which occupy the cloak body slot

[Vizzerdrix]

FWIW, Oriental Adventures have magical hakama ("knee-length trousers"), which occupy the cloak body slot

They mention them taking up the same space as a cloak, cape,mantle, haori, or happi. However a search of my pdf shows no magic pants have been printed.


On a side note, I always thought that this little quirk would be a fun adventure. A wizard finds ancient writings about/ discovers an ancient pair/ creates the first pair of magic pants and thus the magic item slot for them as well. Why was this magical knowledge hidden away? What will kingdoms do to get that extra edge? Who locked the ability to enchant pants away in the first place and what else are they hiding? Denim or khakis?! :smallyuk:

[ShurikVch]

They mention them taking up the same space as a cloak, cape,mantle, haori, or happi. However a search of my pdf shows no magic pants have been printed.
They intended to cosmetically convert items to more "oriental" look:

For example, lyres and harps are common musical instruments in the lands of the Player's Handbook, but in an Oriental Adventures campaign one is more likely to discover a koto of building or a samisen of charming. Likewise, a magic cloak likely takes the form of a kimono or jacket, boots become sandals, bags become boxes, and so on. These changes in the form of an item do not affect its function in any way.
Thus, Cloak of Charisma (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#cloakofCharisma) becomes Hakama of Charisma
(Yellow pants! "Ku" twice!)


On a side note, I always thought that this little quirk would be a fun adventure. A wizard finds ancient writings about/ discovers an ancient pair/ creates the first pair of magic pants and thus the magic item slot for them as well. Why was this magical knowledge hidden away? What will kingdoms do to get that extra edge? Who locked the ability to enchant pants away in the first place and what else are they hiding? Denim or khakis?! :smallyuk:
Well, in the Monday Begins on Saturday (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Begins_on_Saturday), one of wizards invented the Trousers of Invisibility.
Unfortunately for him, they malfunctioned: became invisible, but not imparted invisibility on the wearer... :smallbiggrin:

[loky1109]

(Yellow pants! "Ku" twice!)
Kin-Tza-Tza was translated into English?

[Ruethgar]

The BoEF puts pants as the body slot. If you go piecemeal from PF, it can sort of count as one of the three body slots you get from doing that. IIRC, only the best enchantment applies though I could be wrong. Still, combine it with 3.5 mundane enhancements for +3 AC is nice for making very expensive armor based on looks. Strapped up all in leather with a +5 AC before magic is nice, but expensive.

[ShurikVch]

Kin-Tza-Tza was translated into English?
Few results with English subtitles are on the very first page of Google video search

P.S. Привет Москве из Тулы! :smallwink:

[KillianHawkeye]

Long have I dismayed at the lack of magic pants in D&D.

[Maat Mons]

Maybe D&D is modeled on one of the periods in history when nobody wore pants?

Now that I think about it though, are there any magic socks, stockings, leggings, togas, kilts, skirts, or dresses?

[SangoProduction]

I mean, depending on how large the shorts are, they may take the ring slots.

[rel]

The rules don't really give guidance due to a lack of magical pants.
A separate pants slot makes sense but so does combining both into a body slot.

I've ruled magic pants as slotless in the past but a pants slot is cleaner since you don't have to rule on the practicalities of layering.

[Thurbane]

To quote a wise man :smalltongue:


Just to digress a bit further, I think there's three options for magical pants:


- Have them as a slot-less item;
- Have them use the same slot as waist (same as belts etc.);
- Create a new magic item slot.

I use option 1 (or sometimes 2) in the games I run.

Also, Fighting Trousers are a thing in my games: https://forums.giantitp.com/showsinglepost.php?p=21129936&postcount=12


Maybe D&D is modeled on one of the periods in history when nobody wore pants?

I thought this too, but pants definitely exist in 3E. In Arms & Equipment Guide p.29, table 2-2 has pricing for mundane pants/breeches of various materials.

In RoD, the Sharakim are noted to favour "finely made shirts and pants"

Heck, even in the PHB, both the artisans outfit and cold weather outfit both mention pants.

[HouseRules]

In Ancient/Classical Greek and Romans era, wearing short leather skirts was the norm.