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MarkVIIIMarc
2021-07-19, 05:00 PM
Hello,

This one seems a bit rough for magic items. I'm just wondering if that's the intent though. It doesn't SAY the damage excludes magic items.

Eject Slime (Recharge 5–6). Juiblex spews out a corrosive slime, targeting one creature that it can see within 60 feet of it. The target must make a DC 21 Dexterity saving throw. On a failure, the target takes 55 (10d10) acid damage. Unless the target avoids taking any of this damage, any metal armor worn by the target takes a permanent −1 penalty to the AC it offers, and any metal weapon it is carrying or wearing takes a permanent −1 penalty to damage rolls. The penalty worsens each time a target is subjected to this effect. If the penalty on an object drops to −5, the object is destroyed.

Abracadangit
2021-07-19, 05:11 PM
The one thing that makes me think this is designed to work on magic items as well is the wording from the Black Pudding's "Corrosive Form" ability:

"A creature that touches the pudding or hits it with a melee attack while within 5 feet of it takes 4 (1d8) acid damage. Any nonmagical weapon made of metal or wood that hits the pudding corrodes. After dealing damage, the weapon takes a permanent and cumulative -1 penalty to damage rolls. If its penalty drops to -5, the weapon is destroyed. Nonmagical ammunition made of metal or wood that hits the pudding is destroyed after dealing damage. The pudding can eat through 2-inch-thick, nonmagical wood or metal in 1 round."

Seeing as how the Black Pudding specifically calls out magical vs. nonmagical weapons, and Juiblex doesn't have that verbiage, it seems safe to assume that the ability would work on magical gear as well. Up to DM ruling, as usual.

quindraco
2021-07-19, 05:24 PM
Hello,

This one seems a bit rough for magic items. I'm just wondering if that's the intent though. It doesn't SAY the damage excludes magic items.

Eject Slime (Recharge 5–6). Juiblex spews out a corrosive slime, targeting one creature that it can see within 60 feet of it. The target must make a DC 21 Dexterity saving throw. On a failure, the target takes 55 (10d10) acid damage. Unless the target avoids taking any of this damage, any metal armor worn by the target takes a permanent −1 penalty to the AC it offers, and any metal weapon it is carrying or wearing takes a permanent −1 penalty to damage rolls. The penalty worsens each time a target is subjected to this effect. If the penalty on an object drops to −5, the object is destroyed.

Studded Leather doesn't violate the Druidic religion, so it usually doesn't count as metal for metal-targeting effects, like Heat Metal. I would apply the same logic here.

Lord Vukodlak
2021-07-19, 07:08 PM
The one thing that makes me think this is designed to work on magic items as well is the wording from the Black Pudding's "Corrosive Form" ability:

"A creature that touches the pudding or hits it with a melee attack while within 5 feet of it takes 4 (1d8) acid damage. Any nonmagical weapon made of metal or wood that hits the pudding corrodes. After dealing damage, the weapon takes a permanent and cumulative -1 penalty to damage rolls. If its penalty drops to -5, the weapon is destroyed. Nonmagical ammunition made of metal or wood that hits the pudding is destroyed after dealing damage. The pudding can eat through 2-inch-thick, nonmagical wood or metal in 1 round."

Seeing as how the Black Pudding specifically calls out magical vs. nonmagical weapons, and Juiblex doesn't have that verbiage, it seems safe to assume that the ability would work on magical gear as well. Up to DM ruling, as usual.

One is also CR4 monster and you may encounter several in a single battle the other is CR 23 Demon Lord of all slimes.

Unoriginal
2021-07-19, 07:25 PM
Yeah, if you're fighting Juiblex and got the time to prepare, removing your magic items with metal parts and and looking for ways to make mundane weapons count as magical is the way to go.

Because as the saying goes: nothing can stop the smooze.

Chronos
2021-07-20, 07:37 AM
Yeah, if we're talking about Jubilex itself, here, and we're asking what its limitations are, it's probably safe to say "it's not".

JonBeowulf
2021-07-20, 08:30 AM
One is also CR4 monster and you may encounter several in a single battle the other is CR 23 Demon Lord of all slimes.

Yeah, this. You're talking about freakin' Juiblex here! Running in there with your studded leather, wooden shield, and quarterstaff will allow you to ignore the equipment damage, but you're not going to live long enough to celebrate.

Addaran
2021-07-20, 02:10 PM
Yeah, this. You're talking about freakin' Juiblex here! Running in there with your studded leather, wooden shield, and quarterstaff will allow you to ignore the equipment damage, but you're not going to live long enough to celebrate.

Unless it's a party of Shillelagh wielding paladins! 😎

KorvinStarmast
2021-07-20, 03:10 PM
Unless it's a party of Shillelagh wielding paladins! 😎 Ding Ding Ding:smallsmile:

JonBeowulf
2021-07-20, 03:16 PM
Unless it's a party of Shillelagh wielding paladins! 😎

I was thinking about a group of rogues just laughing it off ("DC21 DEX save? No problem.") but a bunch of paladins with magic sticks is a far funnier image.