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Particle_Man
2021-10-08, 11:55 AM
I have an idea of cleric 2/verrik racial class 1 (from monte cook’s arcana unearthed/evolved)/master of shrouds 10. That gets me to level 13 with only one caster level lost (and one level lost for the purpose of rebuking undead).

What should I do for the next seven levels? Go back to cleric?

thorr-kan
2021-10-08, 09:29 PM
Hexer?

That would require other shenanigans.

What version of Master of Shrouds are you using? There are...3?

Particle_Man
2021-10-09, 12:37 AM
Libris Mortis. There are two other versions? I wonder if I could take more than one of them?

Rebel7284
2021-10-09, 01:53 AM
Libris Mortis. There are two other versions? I wonder if I could take more than one of them?

Complete Divine
Defenders of Faith: A Guidebook to Clerics and Paladins

It looks like the Libris Mortis version is the most recent. Came out 5 months after Complete Divine.

Beni-Kujaku
2021-10-09, 03:53 AM
Well‚ the obvious answer to keep the same theme is bone knight. You continue advancing both rebuke and spellcasting (you lose one caster level) ‚ and you gain more control one your undead. Notably‚ you can gain direct control on the undead animated by a willing caster. In your case‚ you can take control of the spawns of the undead you summoned with Master of Shrouds before they disappear‚ which is great. Also all your undead gain turn resistance‚ and you gain some natural armor and eventually some undead traits like immunity to crits.

Paragon
2021-10-12, 11:13 AM
Well I went down this rabbit hole and this is my build (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Iug8sbFOMUFDD9hXEW6xTyBqprzzAqMYEanXMmWWjOk/edit?usp=sharing) that came out in case you're interested

Particle_Man
2021-10-12, 06:34 PM
Interesting but can you summon chaotic undead as a lawful cleric?

Paragon
2021-10-13, 08:17 AM
I can see a rule that would state that the Summon Monster spell would have the Alignment descriptor of the creature it is used to summon but I can't find this rule.
If it does then yes, otherwise it's free real estate

Particle_Man
2021-10-13, 12:39 PM
Summon Monster I had this rule in the srd, and the other Summon Monster spells piggyback on it, and the Master of Shrouds Summon Undead piggybacks on that. I was going for a true neutral cleric just to be on the safe side.

Paragon
2021-10-14, 02:34 AM
Thanks, I knew I read it somewhere.

But I think the loophole is that MoS gives you SLAs that work like the spells but I can find anything on SLAs having a descriptor like spells do so maybe there's an out here

EDIT: Scratch that. What I mentioned would mean that a Fireball SLA would not have the Fire descriptor or an Charm Person SLA would not be [mind-affecting] which would be absurd.

OTOH only the Shadow is Chaotic, Wraith and Spectres are Lawful :smallwink:

Silly Name
2021-10-14, 04:32 AM
A one-level dip in contemplative for the bonus domain and divine health may be worth it. Super easy requirements, you don't lose on anything, and if you don't particularly care about BaB and HP, you can progress it further.

Divine Disciple is another easy-entry PrC that's basically Cleric+. It doesn't particularly carry over your necromancer theme, but it may reveal itself to be useful.

If you are willing to make a Binder dip, Tenebrous Apostate is definitely on-theme!

liquidformat
2021-10-14, 08:23 AM
Libris Mortis. There are two other versions? I wonder if I could take more than one of them?

The CD version is garbage and can be completely ignored, the Defenders of Faith version is quite interesting it is full caster and gives access to the full cleric spell list, it was a first attempt at prcs improving caster levels so it is a bit screwy.

Divine Oracle is always a nice choice though in your case I would only take 6 levels of it, on the downside it doesn't progress turning...