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Bartmanhomer

2022-01-23, 01:02 AM

Ok, it's my turn to do this Random Banter Thread

Rules for Random Banter Thread

1. Spam. For RB, one-word posts are generally considered spam. Likewise, posts that are nothing but *actions like this* are also be considered spam. Remember that the quality of the post's content is much better than the speed of your response.

2. This isn't the Play by Post or Town forum, nor is it the Silly Message Board Games or Structured Games forum. Please avoid continuous roleplay or mock battles and fights such as the "competition for control of the universe".

3. If it's already a thread, don't bring it to RB. RB has such a huge range of subject matter even restricted to the little snippets that probably don't warrant their thread, it doesn't need legitimate thread topics cluttering it up as well. The exception to this is to bring something off-topic from one thread, but on-topic for RB and the subject doesn't warrant a thread of its own.

4. Don't advertise other threads in RB. Just because these new threads move at speeds more appropriate to a message board than an IM session doesn't mean you need to come over to RB and browbeat people into posting in your latest brainchild.

5. Please don't post single-line posts alerting us to your current status -- as in "I'm back." This is Random Banter, not "How to stalk Random GitP forum members."

6. Don't poke, kick or bump the thread. It will move at whatever pace it wants to. Also, please refrain from Captain Obvious comments akin to "My, the thread is fast today."

7. Random Banter can only be as good, or as entertaining, as you make it. Demands to be entertained will fall on deaf ears unless you can add something more meaningful to the conversation.

8. As this is a public forum, where the current topic is nicely recorded for you, and not a conversation where you could have missed the beginning, please refrain from asking something to the effect of "What's the topic?". Please take the time to read up a bit first.

9. Thread Creator must include the words "Random" and "Banter" as well as the thread #. Try to be concise as well.

10. Every post should contain two visible, legible complete sentences, Subject and Predicate. C'mon, make your old English teachers proud.

11. Remember, Random Banter is not your IM client. If you want to have a back and forth discussion with just one person, look in their contact information for IM details.

12. Whenever a new thread is created, all "first post", "first-page", and all posts of that nature will be deleted by the administrators. Please avoid doing this, as it is frustrating for them to deal with one-lined posts like this.

13. Double-posting is not your friend. We have edit buttons for a reason.

14. Once you have made a Random Banter thread, you must wait for 12 threads before making another one.

15. If you can avoid dibs calling on making the next thread, that will avoid people needing to wait if the thread hits 50 pages while the dibs-caller is asleep.

Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)
Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
var Lord_Magtok = Random(Banter*62) + Surrogate (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801)
Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Eldpollard's RB #77 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
Random Banter #79 In Loving Memory of Hexa_Regina (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40909)
Zeratul's random banter #80 of throwing puppies off bridges (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41778)
Vespe's Random Banter #81 of singing dolphins and mostly harmless planets. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43254)
CSK's Giant in the Playground Forums Addicted Anonymous, Random Banter #82 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44919)
Iames's Ramblingly Erratic Belldandy-Charged Random Banter #83 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47592)
Serpentine's Scintillating Sensually and Sinuously Seductive Stochastic Satire #84 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49048)
Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them... (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50658)
Moon Called's Random Banter #86 of Sexy Anime Boys and Fangirl Squeals (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51825)
Lilly's Lovely Random Banter #87 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52783)
FdL's Fuzzbox-Fueled Random Banter #88 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612)
SweetRein's Sugary Restrained Random Banter #89 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59668)
Midnight's Mutant Motorcycle Madness Random Banter #90 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62430)
Em's Extremely Extraordinarily Epic Random Banter #91 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65645)
Dragonrider's Random Banter in Conjunction with the Weighted Cube #92 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67629)
Bushranger's Bodaciously Buffed Random Banter-y Rooster #93 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69425)
Haruki's Historically Hilarious Honey-covered Random Banter #94 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71161)
North's Maple Syrup Flavored Non-Alliterative Random Banter #95 Eh? (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73464)
Wadledo's Weirdly Warbling Watercress Watching Washing Machine Only Random Banter #96 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75946)
SMEE's Random Banter #97 of gender bending and closet bursting (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78694)
Raiser's Rambunctiously Rambling Random Banter #98 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626)
Dr. Bath's Random Banter, dripping with daring deeds of dastardly deipnosophists #99 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84068)
VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84914)
Jack Squat's Justlessly Juxtaposed Random Banter #101 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87577)
Dallas-Dakota's Dundering Dandelion's Devilish Damsel's Distress Random Banter #102 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4790602#post4790602)
Destro Yersul's Dangerously Distracting and Doubtlessly Disturbing Random Banter #103 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4903962#post4903962)
Aziraphales Actually Alliterative and Awesomely Affluent Random Banter #104 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92718)
Cristo's Consistently Confusing and Constantly Casual Random Banter #105 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94491)
Dish's Delightfully Deranged and Deliciously Deliquent Random Banter # 106 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905)
Slayer's Seemingly Sweet and Socially Silly Random Banter # 107 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97703)
Zero's ambrosial and aberrantly adventitious, abstemiously erudite Random Banter #108 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99100)
Coplantor's Completely Creative Cautious and Contemplative Random Banter #109 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100414)
Rutskarn's Roly-Poly Rebellious and Rejected Random Banter #110 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101156)
TwoBitWriter's Tubular Tracts of Thought-Talking Random Banter #111 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5600540#post5600540)
Phase's Phully Phormed, Phalangeal, and Phantasmagorical Random Banter #112 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101988)
Wolfbane's Wonderfully Wacky and Wildly Wandom Random Banter #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102865)
The Kiwi's Kinkily Knotted and Kookily Kickass Random Banter #114 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103674)
Jude's Judgmental Jugular Jab and Jibber Jabbery Random Banter #115 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104480)
The Throne of Thufir's Thoroughly Theoretical and Therapeutic Random Banter #116 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105584)
Random Banter #117 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106698)
Dragonprime's Dynamically Dangerous Dextrous and Destructive Random Banter #118 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107882)
Farmer Felix's Fantastic FRandom FBanter #119 (may contain traces of fnuts) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109007)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part one) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110963&page=50)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part two) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113197)
Mrmud's Mixed-Up and Minimally Mechanized Random Banter #121 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114623)
Dogmantra's Dastardly, Despotic and Dangerous Random Banter #122 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116660)
Alteran's Amazingly Anachronistic, Altruistic, and Antagonistic Random Banter #123 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118380)
Admiral Euphoria's Random Banter Thread of Delusional Grandeur #124 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6614894)
Fred's Flying Fishy, Fighting, Fiery, Fantastic Face Off Random Banter #125 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121385)
Cyrano’s Non-Alliterative Inaugurational Random Banter #126 To Usher In The Future (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122977)
Thanatos's Tharmturges Present: Tropical, Tipsy, and Typically Random Banter #127
(https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123816)loopy's Legendary and Long-Awaited Lollipop Fuelled Random Banter #128 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124786)
Shadow's Shady Shop of Sharks, Shingles, Shammies, Shiny and Random Banter #129 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125667)
KataraAltinaII's Premature Not So Short & To-The-Point Random Banter #130 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126557)
Supagoof's Supa-Sensational Silly Symphonies Set Sizzingly On Fire Random Banter #131 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128570)
Pyrian's Pyrotechnic Pyre of Pyrrhic Pyros with Pyrotic Pythics Random Banter #132! (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130459)
Perenelle's Pleasantly Playful and Passionately Peculiar Random Banter #133 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131814)
Rpgsr4me's Ravenous, Roaring, Raging Rampage of Random Banter #134 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7373844#post7373844)
Il'deav Ilah'naie's Indiscreet Intimacies on Indigo Iceboats Random Banter #135 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134438)
Recaiden's Resplendent and Rotating Realistic Random Banter #136 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136879)
Jibar's Random Banter #137: Return of the Cat-muffin (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138879)
Edge's Effluence of Extravagant and Effulgent Random Banter #138 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7876065)
Zeb The Troll's Zecond Go At Ze Random Banter #139 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061505&postcount=1)
Curly's Rambunctious and Erudite Random Banter #140 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148462)
Deth Muncher's Destructive and Meandering Random Banter #141 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150904)
A Thread in Which Banter Most Random is Expulsed Into Existence, By Ravens_cry #142 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8722755)
Several Silly Sealions Stuffed Seaweed Southward Swiftly (Or, Random Banter #143) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159998)
The thread that changed name one last time, with style. (Random Banter #144) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161407)
Banjo’s Bodacious & Boosted Bumper Bulletproof Box of Banter Most Random #145 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162819)
Masa's Massively Masterful Message Medium - Random Banter #146 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164224)
KuReshtin's Vociferously Ruminating Harbinger of Random Banter - #147 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166664)
Archonic's Archaic Acronymical Antidisestablishmentarianism Random Banter - #148 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169890)
Skeppio's Splendidly Strange & Superbly Scintillating Random Banter - #149 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173056)
Teddy's Turbulent and Topicless Random Banter #150 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175338)
Fifty-Eyed Fred's Ferociously Fanatical and Fabulously Fascinating Random Banter #151 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178205)
Rae's Really Rascally and Ridiculously Rowdy Random Banter #152 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181296)
Haruki's Hot n' Holy Random Banter #153 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10176275#post10176275)
MoonCat's Magnificently Mythopoeic Random Banter #154 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187576)
Eadin's Exchange of Extraterrestrial Excuses AKA Random Banter #155 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190034)
Happy HalfTangible's Horrific Hail of Random Banter #156 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10629167#post10629167)
AtlanteanTroll's Atrocious and Terrific Arcade of Terror - RB #157 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196302)
LaLa’s Laughably Silly Random Banter Thread – RB #158 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198767)
Zaydos's Zany Zooetic Random Banter - RB #159 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200208)
Blue's Blessed and Blissful Random Banter - RB #160 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201653)
Absolmorph's Azoic Arete of Adventitious and Aimless Random Banter - RB 161 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202546)
Gwyn's Gloriously Green Garrumphing Garter of Garrulous Gabble! Random Banter #162 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203954)
Eruantion's Euphoric, Elephant-filled Elevated Epoch of Eurhythmic Random Banter #163 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205487)
ATW's Awesome Androgynous Avaricious Azure Ardent Adamant Alluvial Random Banter #164 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207269)
Cynical Avocado's Absolutely Admirable Accumulation of Random Bantering #165 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209860)
August's Pink Plushy and Phantasmagorically Random Banter Thread #166 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212011)
Heliomance's Everchanging Thread Title Random Banter #167 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213053)
Tragic_Comedian's Tremendously Tropical Random Banter #168 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215180)
Qwertystop's Quickly Quilted, Quip-filled Random Banter #169 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217326)
Thufir's Thupremely Thatithfying Thecond Random Banter With a Lithp #170 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219654)
Feytalist's Fantastically Freakish First Random Banter #171 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222713)
Dragonprime's Dashing Delight-fu Dazzling Dualistic Random Banter #172
Castaras' Random Banter #173: Bringing back your nostalgic Great Old Ones (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229164)
Pokemon-freak89's Random Banter number eleventy-twelve... uhh... I mean... number 174 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231235)
Dark Elf Bard's Random Banter #175:Playin' Underdark Jazz since the Drow went dark. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235950)
Mutant Sheep's Post Septaquintaquinquecentennial ApRiL fOoLs Random Banter: #176 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238117)
Elemental's Excitingly Excellent Random Banter: No.CLXXVII (177) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13163770)
Amiel's Appeasingly Appropriate Arbitrary Amusement (Random Banter): No.CLXXVIII #178 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245179)
"Your Angel of Banter Awaits." ThePhantasm Presents Random Banter #179 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13535351)
Serpentine's Secretly Sapphic Salacious Sacrarium of Random Banter #180 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253047)
Dimonite's Decidedly Draconic Devious Discussions: Random Banter #181 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254409)
Mercenary Pen's Meticulously Planned Machine of Prose Random Banter #182 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255754)
Mynxae's Maliciously Magnificent Random Banter #183 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257322)
Kneenibble's Knack for Knightly Knickers: a Knell for Random Banter #184 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258878)
Coid's Crowing Conundrum of a Canticle of Crookedly Random Banter #185 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260837)
Amidus Drexel's Alliterative and Awe-Accentuating Anvil of Random Banter CLXXXVI (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262894)
Absolmorph's Awkwardly Amorous Albeit Alliterative Advances of Random Banter #187 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265267)
Wombat's Whimsical Wonderland of Random Banter #188 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267137)
Death's Daunting but Daring Denouement of Random Banter #189 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270487)
Dragon Eggs in Lederhosen and Burning Drakes with Random Banter (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274807)
Devmaar's Notably Unalliterative Random Banter #191 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278435)
Cuthalion's Creatively Created Cranny for Random Banter #192 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280998)
TaiLiu's Tea-Filled Tome of Random Banter #193 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283292)
FinnLassie's Fantabulous Facade of Random Banter #194 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286018)
Taet's Acrostic: Everyone's Tuned into Random Banter #195 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289349)
Random Banter #196 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291872)
House of Much Random Banter and Haluesen's Various Wondrous Cookies #197 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294114)
Dallas-Dakota's Dastardly and Devious Dancing Debate of Random Banter #198 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298986)
Random Banter #Who really knows anymore? #Rawhide knows it's 199 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304868)
Forum Staff's Random Banter of Oh My Gosh You Guys Really Talked for 200 Threads??? (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=308593)
Skeppio's Superfluously Splendid Random Banter #201 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316312)
Teddy's Twofold Tempestuous and Tranquil Random Banter #202 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320281)
EmeraldRose's Extraordinarily Energetic Espresso-For-All Random Banter #203 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323996)
chaotic stupid presents the stupidly chaotic random banter #204 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328365)
Asta Kask presents the awesome alliterative random banter #205 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?334965-Asta-Kask-presents-the-awesome-alliterative-random-banter-205)
Mr.Silver has brought your fix: Random Banter #206 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?341962-Mr-Silver-has-brought-your-fix-Random-Banter-206&p=17303451#post17303451)
AtlanteanTroll's Additional Tirade Atrocious Threads Random Banter #207 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?352062-AtlanteanTroll-s-Additional-Tirade-Atrocious-Threads-Random-Banter-207)
KuReshtin's Kallously Konfusing Konsternations - Random Banter #208 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?362174-KuReshtin-s-Kallously-Konfusing-Konsternations-Random-Banter-208)
jhunter_d's Gelatinous Jamborie of a Random Banter #209 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?371296-jhunter_d-s-Gelatinous-Jamborie-of-a-Random-Banter-209)
Qwertystop's Unexpected To Everyone Or At Least To Him Random Banter #210 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?384570-Qwertystop-s-Unexpected-To-Everyone-Or-At-Least-To-Him-Random-Banter-210)
Peeble's Perfectly Pointless Popular Prattle #211 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?396954-Peebles-Perfectly-Pointless-Popular-Prattle-Random-Banter-211)
Durkoala's Desultorily Droll Drivel and Discourse (Random Banter Thread #212) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?413184-Durkoala-s-Desultorily-Droll-Drivel-and-Discourse-(Random-Banter-Thread-212))
Raziere's Rollicking Red Raging Rant (Random Banter Thread #213) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?436885-Raziere-s-Rollicking-Red-Raging-Rant-(Random-Banter-Thread-213))
Yung Crunk Presents B-Sides, Remixes and Outtakes: Random Banter, Vol. 214 (Random Banter Thread #214) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?473894-Yung-Crunk-Presents-B-Sides-Remixes-and-Outtakes-Random-Banter-Vol-214)
Aegis J Hyena's Super Hyena Fun Show: Random Banter Thread #215 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?489200-Aegis-J-Hyena-s-Super-Hyena-Fun-Show-Random-Banter-Thread-215)
WarKitty's Feline Frenzy Random Banter #216 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?508596-WarKitty-s-Feline-Frenzy-Random-Banter-216)
Dark Shadow's Surprisingly Well-Lit Random Banter #217 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?532106-Dark-Shadow-s-Surprisingly-Well-Lit-Random-Banter-217)
2D8HP's extended mea culpa and Random Banter #218 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?558709-2D8HP-s-extended-mea-culpa-and-Random-Banter-218)
Bartmanhomer's Ultimate Random Banter Thread #219 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?567958-Bartmanhomer-s-Ultimate-Random-Banter-Thread-219)
Peelee's Chicken Fried Random Banter Thread #220 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?576312-Peelee-s-Chicken-Fried-Random-Banter-Thread-220)
Roland's Merciful Modly Mash-up Random Banter Thread #221 (also containing fragments of Tvtyrant's Terribly Tyrannical Random Banter Thread #221 and Rockphed's Ridiculous (Sports Hating) Random Banter #221) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?582218-Roland-s-Merciful-Modly-Mash-up-Random-Banter-Thread-221&p=23741942#post23741942)
Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity Random Banter 222 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?590342-Not-So-Mith-d-Opportunity-Random-Banter-222)
SZbNAhL's Similarly Sibilant (if unpronouncable) Random Banter #223 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?595105-SZbNAhL-s-Similarly-Sibilant-(if-unpronouncable)-Random-Banter-223)
Thufir's Third Random Banter Thread #224 (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?600048-Thufir-s-Third-Random-Banter-224)
Mystic Muse's Magnificient Masquerade Random Banter Thread #225 (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?604650-Mystic-Muse-s-Magnificent-Masquerade-Random-Banter-225)
Fyraltari's Fiercely Friendly Random Banter Thread #226 (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?608805-Fyraltari-s-Fiercely-Friendly-Random-Banter-Thread-226)
Anonymouswizard's Random Banter #227 and Free Cup of Tea (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?612572-Anonymouswizard-s-Random-Banter-227-and-Free-Cup-of-Tea)
Sermil and the Banter of Randomness: Random Banter #228
Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Rantor #229 (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?620330-Rater-s-Ridiculously-Rambunctious-Random-Ranter-229)
Enderlord's Random Banter #230 (Friendly warning: Might teleport. Don't get wet.) (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?624272-Enderlord-s-Random-Banter-230-(Friendly-warning-Might-teleport-Don-t-get-wet-))
DataNinja's Scintillating Digital Random Banter #231 (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?626560-DataNinja-s-Scintillating-Digital-Random-Banter-231)
A Wild Lurker Appears! Hyoi's Random Banter #232
I Can't Believe It's Not An Index CCXXXIII - Jasdoif's Random Banter #233
Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234 (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?634154-Tarmor-s-Terribly-Tantalizing-Tarasque-Terrrifying-Random-Banter-234)
Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum, Form smells a Random Banter #235 (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?636657-Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum-Form-smells-a-Random-Banter-235)
Random MetaBanter – Random Banter no. 236 (now with Flowers!) (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?639320-Random-MetaBanter-%96-Random-Banter-no-236-(now-with-Flowers!)&p=25281209#post25281209)

HalfTangible

2022-01-23, 06:55 PM

And even that is just a 2eism that wasn't in the original edition, and won't be in any edition after, because everyone hated the idea of Snidely Whiplash Ebon Dragon.

AFAIK in all 3 editions the Dragon's Shadow/Ebon Dragon is an ******* >.> The end fiction of 1e's corebook has him kidnapping and brainwashing the Scarlet Empress, iirc

Rater202

2022-01-23, 10:26 PM

A link to the last thread. (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?639320-Random-MetaBanter-%96-Random-Banter-no-236-(now-with-Flowers!))Every couple of years I get touched with the idea of having the power to transform into a swarm of hundreds of black-furred kittens with red eyes and exist as a hivemind of kittens.

Peelee

2022-01-23, 10:43 PM

Amotis' Random Banter #1
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5
Jibar's Random Banter #6
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter

What's the point of this without links, and being woefully incomplete?

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-23, 10:49 PM

What's the point of this without links, and being woefully incomplete?

I thought that I did.

Peelee

2022-01-23, 11:13 PM

I thought that I did.

You did not.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-23, 11:17 PM

You did not.

Hold on I'm working at it now.

HalfTangible

2022-01-23, 11:34 PM

Hold on I'm working at it now.

Quote the post, enter the new thread, and paste. It's easier and faster than doing all the links one by one.

Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)
Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
var Lord_Magtok = Random(Banter*62) + Surrogate (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801)
Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Eldpollard's RB #77 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
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Lord Raziere

2022-01-23, 11:35 PM

AFAIK in all 3 editions the Dragon's Shadow/Ebon Dragon is an ******* >.> The end fiction of 1e's corebook has him kidnapping and brainwashing the Scarlet Empress, iirc

Yes but the point is that he is not puppy-kicking cartoon evil, but a dark alien entity who is dangerous to interact with like any other Yozi, just a different flavor of alien.

and the fate of the Scarlet Empress being anything other than "I don't know, its mysterious, and thus whatever you want for your game". is widely regarded by both devs and fandom as A Mistake. mostly because Scarlet Empress returning at all is The Elder Problem, Dragon-Blooded edition: things become more about her than the PCs. its for sure not canon in 3e and given the way I've seen people talk about it, many people would go back and get rid of the Scarlet Empress being kidnapped by the Ebon Dragon and the Return of the Scarlet Empress in 2e entirely if they were allowed.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-23, 11:46 PM

I did it. Thank you Half. :smile:

HalfTangible

2022-01-24, 12:02 AM

Yes but the point is that he is not puppy-kicking cartoon evil, but a dark alien entity who is dangerous to interact with like any other Yozi, just a different flavor of alien.

and the fate of the Scarlet Empress being anything other than "I don't know, its mysterious, and thus whatever you want for your game". is widely regarded by both devs and fandom as A Mistake. mostly because Scarlet Empress returning at all is The Elder Problem, Dragon-Blooded edition: things become more about her than the PCs. its for sure not canon in 3e and given the way I've seen people talk about it, many people would go back and get rid of the Scarlet Empress being kidnapped by the Ebon Dragon and the Return of the Scarlet Empress in 2e entirely if they were allowed.

Oh I agree on that front. The idea of the Empress returning is cool and I do like some of the things I've heard about that adventure (Sol dying gives every Solar a bunch of charms, a dot of essence, and an initmacy of vengeance against TED) but given that Return is widely regarded as one of the worst things Exalted has ever put out and it's 100% true that it took focus away from the players I'm glad to see it gone.

My point was that even in 1e TED was a huge *******; this isn't something that 2e pulled out of its ass.

Rater202

2022-01-24, 12:31 AM

Oh I agree on that front. The idea of the Empress returning is cool and I do like some of the things I've heard about that adventure (Sol dying gives every Solar a bunch of charms, a dot of essence, and an initmacy of vengeance against TED) but given that Return is widely regarded as one of the worst things Exalted has ever put out and it's 100% true that it took focus away from the players I'm glad to see it gone.

My point was that even in 1e TED was a huge *******; this isn't something that 2e pulled out of its ass.

Return gives rules for Elder Essence Infernal Charms.. Even though some of them are traps and it only gives the Ebon Dragon version, and the Broken Winged Crane Supplement despite being described as "Overflow Charms from MOEPI" seems to be building off of the concept of those Elder Essence charms..

And let's be honest, Broken Winged Crane is half the reason people like 2e Infernals, to the point that on the old white wolf forum people were asking for 3E devil tigers and the devs were like "yes they're cool but they promote some stuff that isn't so good in hindsight. We're spinning 'make your own custom thematic charm set' off to its own thing and dumping the transhumanism stuff back into the main charm tree" specifically stating that Spirit of the Living world would be a regular occult charm and suggests have been made of populating the world with gods that act as representatives of aspects of yourself to emulate a primordial's soul hierarchy(as opposed to literally having your own soul hierarchy)

...Which makes me wonder if 3e Infernals will have charms building off of it that allows the infernal to project their inner world into real space on a temperary basis? Current and former Onyx Path writers and developers are known to be fans of Fate/Stay Night.

...God damn it, now I'm trying to imagine a reality marble for my hypothetical devil princess.

HalfTangible

2022-01-24, 01:10 AM

I'm more interested in the angle that the Infernals inherited the legacy of the old solars. Not simply their powers or crimes or their arrogance, but in the sense that these guys were betrayed, thoroughly and utterly.

Consider the vision of gold. In it, the Sidereals tell the Solars that what they're doing is going to destroy all of Creation. The Solars realize the error of their ways and with the advice of the Sidereals tone down their behavior, resulting in an even more beautiful Creation. The downside is that this vision has a second possible outcome that basically amounts to "the Solars get worse and Creation gets wiped out".

This is a group of people who have not inherited a legacy of heroism like the Solars or as the destroyers of all like the Abyssals; they are the inheritors of the worst sins ever committed in Creation. These people were the worst tyrants, monsters, and extremists in existence... but they were not beyond redemption. They could've been saved, but the Sidereals chose not to take the risk that they would just go even more crazy and destroy Creation.

A heroic Infernal is presented with the choice that the old Deliberative never got to make (one that they might not have deserved to make, arguably, but still). The constant exercise of their power will lead to a Creation that burns down around them, same as a Solar, but with the Yozi's equally destructive power backing them up that destruction will be accelerated. But if they take a step back, only interfere when they're needed, Creation has time to recover between their massive bouts of horrid atrocities. There'd be a real struggle for an Infernal to hold themselves back... which may not make for the best TTRPG experience but it is at least something to think about.

Or you can go on a path of vengeance... which might be too similar to the Lunars, but it's worth looking at at least (In this case it's less about the Realm in particular, more about the con job the Sidereals have pulled). You learn about the vision of gold, but you're only told certain things about it. You learn that the Sidereals could potentially have saved Creation from the Deliberative that was, but saw a future where they were in control. Creation would be lesser, but it would be under their bootheel.

"So perhaps," the Yozis venture, "you might want to go after Heaven. Not just because the Sidereals are there of course, but because the Celestial Incarnae allowed you to be struck down... your decision, of course. Go out and right wrongs, and Hell, we'll even give you some extra power to do it and reshape the world in our- I mean, your image. Hm, you want to rescue puppies, you say? Here, have a demon that devours the flesh of pound owners and turns their souls into kibble. Kibble that turns those puppies into super-intelligent hellhounds that obey your every whim no matter how brutal. Win-win!"

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 01:14 AM

...God damn it, now I'm trying to imagine a reality marble for my hypothetical devil princess.

There is a charm for that in Exalted Essence: Devil Body Incarnation. One of the effects it has it allows you transform your surroundings into difficult terrain befitting your aesthetic in addition to transforming yourself and various other optional effects. its likely that a full 3e version would offer more extensive versions of this for more uses.

@ Halftangible: eh, kind of plausible, but the anti-authoritarian themes are mixed in heavily in Infernals in 3e. that and they've cut back on the more mythos reasoning of things and to focus more on present motivations rather long ago ancient grudges.

Rater202

2022-01-24, 01:38 AM

Still... The Yozis see their own condition as a great injustice they suffered her(and,given their alien nature, they're not... Quite wrong. They literally can't help but be what they were and are) and Infernal Exalted are chosen from those who suffered some terrible injustice or betrayal themselves.

It's entirely possible that the Yozis, at least those capable of anything resembling empathy, might have seen themselves in the Usurpation era Solars and that's an interesting parallel to make.

...I remember it being mentioned that one of the ideas floating around is that, instead of the Yozis only expecting that the neverborn/deathlords would get a couple of exaltations and that's why there's a hundred abyssal but only 50 infernals, that the Yozis only wanted 50 exaltations.

I speculated, based on the idea that the Infernals are there in part for the Yozis to live vicariously through and that the Yozis would encourage decadence and hedonism that they selected the fifty most decadent and hedonist solar's exaltations.

Now I'm wondering if they didn't select the exaltations of the 50 solars who were best in a position to make the choice, whose actions would have most contributed to which possible future would have come true had the Sids tried to be diplomatic with the solars.

Or maybe the 50 Solars who were most devastated, personally, by the betrayal.

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 01:47 AM

Rater202

2022-01-24, 02:39 AM

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 02:49 AM

Exalted has the sort of lore that by rights should be making me just shaking my head, like Kill Six Billion Demons, but it's juuust restrained enough that I'm totally fine with it. It's a very fine line between "high octane ridiculousness" and "so ridiculous that it just stops being interesting" and some series just, dance across that razor's edge. Maybe this is a personal failing of mine, but it's one that I cannot ever really get past.

I live for high octane ridiculousness. one needs to at times contrast it with slower more sedate moments for it to properly have weight and meaning, but its what I love.

@ Rater: ahahahahahahahaa.....

tell that to the Exalted fans who go read things like Debt: The First 5000 Years or talk extensively the sociology/anthropology of Blessed Isle and the various cultures of the Threshold. In my experience, the people who know about Exalted in general rpg community but aren't fans of it think its all Dawn Caste kung fu ridiculousness, but my experiences with the actual Exalted community that discusses Exalted as often as people discuss DnD on this forum, is much more all about the Eclipse Caste/Zenith side of things and taking the politics and cultures of Creation seriously. there are even people who houserule to get rid of oversized artifact weapons which is saddening to me.

Rater202

2022-01-24, 03:16 AM

I live for high octane ridiculousness. one needs to at times contrast it with slower more sedate moments for it to properly have weight and meaning, but its what I love.

@ Rater: ahahahahahahahaa.....

tell that to the Exalted fans who go read things like Debt: The First 5000 Years or talk extensively the sociology/anthropology of Blessed Isle and the various cultures of the Threshold. In my experience, the people who know about Exalted in general rpg community but aren't fans of it think its all Dawn Caste kung fu ridiculousness, but my experiences with the actual Exalted community that discusses Exalted as often as people discuss DnD on this forum, is much more all about the Eclipse Caste/Zenith side of things and taking the politics and cultures of Creation seriously. there are even people who house rule to get rid of oversized artifact weapons which is saddening to me.I didn't say it was all Dawn kung fu. I said that it was intentionally a little bit silly, in part due to the fact that it's drawing inspiration from genres and historical/mythological sources that are often rather over the top...

Granted: The Solar Kung Fu aspects are part of what attracted me to it.

On the other hand, I'm the kind of person who, if something like the "Scan your gunpla and pilot it in a full emersion VR MMO" thing from that one Gundam spinoff anime was real, would in complete seriousness show up with a show accurate Grand Master Gundam model if that was permitted and possible. I might have a different idea of how fun being overpowered combat monsters is compared to average.

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 03:26 AM

I didn't say it was all Dawn kung fu. I said that it was intentionally a little bit silly, in part due to the fact that it's drawing inspiration from genres and historical/mythological sources that are often rather over the top...

Granted: The Solar Kung Fu aspects are part of what attracted me to it.

On the other hand, I'm the kind of person who, if something like the "Scan your gunpla and pilot it in a full emersion VR MMO" thing from that one Gundam spinoff anime was real, would in complete seriousness show up with a show accurate Grand Master Gundam model if that was permitted and possible. I might have a different idea of how fun being overpowered combat monsters is compared to average.

Sorry, your kind of talking about something thats my equivalent to your knowledge of Marvel comics here, with maybe only things like Naruto or Pokemon surpassing Exalted in terms of my knowledge.

Rater202

2022-01-24, 03:30 AM

Sorry, your kind of talking about something thats my equivalent to your knowledge of Marvel comics here, with maybe only things like Naruto or Pokemon surpassing Exalted in terms of my knowledge.

Fair enough.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 05:06 AM

Just to check, Exalted is the one that's 40% western fantasy, 10% old World of Darkness, and 50% Shounen Fighting Anime?

BisectedBrioche

2022-01-24, 05:23 AM

Today marks my first week of streaming this year without Other M. Thank goodness. :smallbiggrin:

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 06:52 AM

Rater202

2022-01-24, 07:16 AM

So I recently started watching Red vs Blue... Little over a quarter way through season 3, and I gotta say, having a direct comparison for the first time... The Spartan models for the original Halo are a lot better than the ones in Halo 2.

That is all.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 07:55 AM

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 07:58 AM

The whole social media community is total crap. We can say certain things on the internet but we're not allowed to say swear words on the internet? Bull****! The reason why I'm saying this is because my childhood friend on Facebook made a post saying that he commented on Youtube about Full House that he say a few curse words then someone reply friend comment saying he was not allowed to say curse words on the video. I comment on my friend's Facebook because I agree with my friend. The social media community is crap. :mad:

It very much matters what part of the internet you're on. I can't say **** on this board, but there's other areas of the internet where I can.

There's a related issue that big sites are being forced into becoming child-safe at the risk of legislation. It's not something we can really talk about here, but it does lead to blanket measures such as banning of comments on kid-focused YouTube videos, and attempts to work around such measures.

Here though it's more likely just somebody having a different opinion. Some people are pro-swear words, others aren't, your friend likely just ran into somebody who didn't like them.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 08:01 AM

It very much matters what part of the internet you're on. I can't say **** on this board, but there's other areas of the internet where I can.

There's a related issue that big sites are being forced into becoming child-safe at the risk of legislation. It's not something we can really talk about here, but it does lead to blanket measures such as banning of comments on kid-focused YouTube videos, and attempts to work around such measures.

Here though it's more likely just somebody having a different opinion. Some people are pro-swear words, others aren't, your friend likely just ran into somebody who didn't like them.

Yeah Anon, I understand that. That person who doesn't like swear words must be a Karen.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 08:03 AM

Yeah Anon, I understand that. That person who doesn't like swear words must be a Karen.

Or they just don't like swear words, no need to make assumptions about them.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 08:04 AM

Or they just don't like swear words, no need to make assumptions about them.

Indeed. At the end of the day, cursing is impolite. Theres a time and a place for it, but casual online conversation with a stranger is generally not either of those.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 08:12 AM

Or they just don't like swear words, no need to make assumptions about them.

I wasn't making assumptions at all. Yes, I understand that swear words are impolite and I know that many people have different opinions of swear words. I'm pro-swear words and I have no problems when people cursed at all when I have a conversation with them. At the end of the day swear words exist.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 08:20 AM

I wasn't making assumptions at all. Yes, I understand that swear words are impolite and I know that many people have different opinions of swear words. I'm pro-swear words and I have no problems when people cursed at all when I have a conversation with them. At the end of the day swear words exist.

Except you did. You called them a Karen, which has a bunch of negative connotations.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 08:21 AM

Except you did. You called them a Karen, which has a bunch of negative connotations.

Yeah, I did call them a Karen. I'll admit to that.

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 08:31 AM

It probably helps that Exalted is upfront with the fact that it's ridiculous. Part of the reason it's so over the top is becuase it doesn't take itself seriously.

It's also partly becuase it's trying to emulate a mixture of High Fantasy, a mixture of the narrative feel of several different sets of religion and mythology, wuxia, shonen anime, cosmic horror, and elements of the Punk meta-genre with anything to do with Alchemicles being cyberpunk outright(albeit more with Orwellian states that omnipresent megacorps)

Crazy is to be expected. There are certainly dramatic moments, but there's a martial art where if you're good at it you can assassinate someone by hiding in his teacup and jumping out and punching him so hard he turns into a flock of seagulls and scatters. If you take it too seriously you're doing it wrong.

While that's true, I feel like there is something about Exalted that somehow "works" better than K6BD for me.

I live for high octane ridiculousness. one needs to at times contrast it with slower more sedate moments for it to properly have weight and meaning, but its what I love.

@ Rater: ahahahahahahahaa.....

tell that to the Exalted fans who go read things like Debt: The First 5000 Years or talk extensively the sociology/anthropology of Blessed Isle and the various cultures of the Threshold. In my experience, the people who know about Exalted in general rpg community but aren't fans of it think its all Dawn Caste kung fu ridiculousness, but my experiences with the actual Exalted community that discusses Exalted as often as people discuss DnD on this forum, is much more all about the Eclipse Caste/Zenith side of things and taking the politics and cultures of Creation seriously. there are even people who houserule to get rid of oversized artifact weapons which is saddening to me.

Yeah, and the thing is I love crazy stuff happening too! I'm a huge fan of Undead Unluck and that series is ****ing bonkers and has the pacing of a bullet train. But it does have those slower moments to make things work, and a lot of heart. Exalted, being a TTRPG setting, doesn't really have any of that beyond just the implicit mechanical chunks that break up the ridiculous, unless you're actually playing it.

Incidentally I follow a pretty funny guy who has been recording his Exalted Essence (and the system Essence grew out of) game, if you want a recommendation. It's the only reason Exalted is anything in my brain other than "that silly dice game HT plays".

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 08:35 AM

Just to check, Exalted is the one that's 40% western fantasy, 10% old World of Darkness, and 50% Shounen Fighting Anime?

If by these percentages you mean:
inspired by Night's Master, Hawkmoon, Imajica, The Black Company, A Song of Ice and Fire, The complete Pegana, Conan the Cimmerian, The Illiad, Journey to the West, Book of Judges, Inuyasha, Claymore, Ninja Scroll, Howl's Moving Castle, the Bride with White Hair, Rome (2005), dynasty warriors, Final Fantasy 7, and Dissidia Final Fantasy, then yes.

because those are suggested specific resources to look for inspiration in the 3rd edition corebook. to say "western fantasy" isn't quite specific enough because it conjures images of tolkienesque worlds of dwarves and elves and hobbits which Exalted is not. to say old world of darkness is slightly true but the connection is thrown out long ago by now, and shounen fighting anime....only if you count Inuyasha and Claymore. Ninja Scroll is something darker than both, and dynasty warriors and FF are videogames. the big three and Dragonball aren't even on there. though I have seen the devs say the 3rd edition artifact weapons are inspired by zanpakuto from Bleach in passing.

@ Zodi: please do recommend it, I love exalted, but finding a game for it online is like hunting for El Dorado.

Rater202

2022-01-24, 08:55 AM

to say old world of darkness is slightly true but the connection is thrown out long ago by now

I mean, one of the devs wanted to bring it back for a sourcebook.

Then when he got let go he wrote it out as an unofficial supplement. It's very good.

First book covered the core five Exalts, how they've changed by the modern-day in a creation that is less than it once was, how the first generations fo exalts are getting, and how various supernatural creatures see the Exalted.

Second Book, the companion, has Infernals and alchemical, extra charms, and so on.

Third book, the revised edition, has all the material of the first two books tweaked with playtest feedback, optional rules, a conversion for Dark Ages games, even more charms, and rules for Liminels, Dragon Kings, and nothing else.

He's also working on an "Exalted in the Chronicles of Darkness" supplement with the caveat that the Exalted are being reimagined to fit the Chronicles world since it doesn't have the thematic ties between Exalted and the Classic World of Darkness.

Also, different logic: In Exalted vs the World of Darkness the exalts, while not lessened per say, can't access their full power becuase there isn't enough ambient essence in the world, they have to make do with only what their exaltations generate and what they can pull in from places of power(And in the case of Abyssal,s what they can rip out of someone's throat.) What we've been told of the Chronicles version is that the Exalts are Ancient and Powerful and you have to be careful not to warp or damage the shallow reality that is around you.

(Honestly, I'm very much looking forward to it. Especially since Exalted Fair Folk are closer to the True Fae in Changeling The Lost than they are to how faires were depicted in Changeling the Dreaming and I'd be interested in seeing that interaction...)

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 08:55 AM

I drink three cups of hot coffee before work today. I'm going to drink water. :smile:

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 09:00 AM

@ Zodi: please do recommend it, I love exalted, but finding a game for it online is like hunting for El Dorado.

Here you gooo~ (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMthTW4vRq8ZlMnlRXpCT-NYGF8e2OXB6)

The videos he does are also just, really good in general. I think you'd enjoy. But linking the Exalted stuff specifically.

Peelee

2022-01-24, 09:04 AM

The whole social media community is total crap. We can say certain things on the internet but we're not allowed to say swear words on the internet?
You do realize you can't swear on this site, right? There's a filter which specifically obscures profanity.

Yeah Anon, I understand that. That person who doesn't like swear words must be a Karen.
I've noticed that when people don't like what you say, you just cry out "I have the right to say it", but when you don't like what other people say, you make fun of them and insult them. In either case, you competely shut down any discussion.

Just a thing I've noticed.

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 09:14 AM

I mean, one of the devs wanted to bring it back for a sourcebook.

Then when he got let go he wrote it out as an unofficial supplement. It's very good.

First book covered the core five Exalts, how they've changed by the modern-day in a creation that is less than it once was, how the first generations fo exalts are getting, and how various supernatural creatures see the Exalted.

Second Book, the companion, has Infernals and alchemical, extra charms, and so on.

Third book, the revised edition, has all the material of the first two books tweaked with playtest feedback, optional rules, a conversion for Dark Ages games, even more charms, and rules for Liminels, Dragon Kings, and nothing else.

He's also working on an "Exalted in the Chronicles of Darkness" supplement with the caveat that the Exalted are being reimagined to fit the Chronicles world since it doesn't have the thematic ties between Exalted and the Classic World of Darkness.

Also, different logic: In Exalted vs the World of Darkness the exalts, while not lessened per say, can't access their full power becuase there isn't enough ambient essence in the world, they have to make do with only what their exaltations generate and what they can pull in from places of power(And in the case of Abyssal,s what they can rip out of someone's throat.) What we've been told of the Chronicles version is that the Exalts are Ancient and Powerful and you have to be careful not to warp or damage the shallow reality that is around you.

(Honestly, I'm very much looking forward to it. Especially since Exalted Fair Folk are closer to the True Fae in Changeling The Lost than they are to how faires were depicted in Changeling the Dreaming and I'd be interested in seeing that interaction...)

oh yeah I know about that guy and exalted Vs. Wod. I remember when I told him that he had no right to determine what I found fun once back when 3e first came out and everyone was arguing over the 3e crafting- or maybe it jsut 3e changes in general-- and I was on the anti side who wanted my magitech back. felt good, when people backed me on that. I was more foolish then.

still like Exalted Vs. WoD though, if only for the solar killing a bunch of vampires with a horse mask and mall katana and it being an option where the usual message of "be responsible with your power" is turned on its head as the Exalted are in a situation where they have to go whole-hog with their abilities to prevent the apocalypse as pretty much one of its lasts hopes (with maybe the Mages of Ascension helping). though I'd personally use MnM QDe to run that now, and I have trouble coming up with Exalted characters for a modern setting for some reason.

there is a CoD version in the works? and its just.....bringing back the normal message? eh. probably not my thing. I lost interest in CoD around the time they started announcing a 2nd edition of NwoD. the latest books I have for that is Demon the Descent stuff.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 09:18 AM

You do realize you can't swear on this site, right? There's a filter which specifically obscures profanity.

Yes, I know that. It's part of the forum rules.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 09:31 AM

Yes, I know that. It's part of the forum rules.

You also do this, where when someone points out a hypocrisy, you specifically avoid addressing it, either by not responding it, or never doing anything to get better about it.

Like criticizing your 'friend' for grammar issues.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 09:33 AM

lost interest in CoD around the time they started announcing a 2nd edition of NwoD. the latest books I have for that is Demon the Descent stuff.

Meanwhile I really like the CofD2e stuff. They've got rid of some of the worst rules aspects and added in the Conditions and Beats mechanics to help guide play, and thrown the attempts at competitive balance between lines out the window. This has resulted in most supernaturals getting a decent buff, especially Vampires and Changelings.

Plus the setting changes are mostly great, to me it feels a lot more focused. Although yes, aside from Changeling oWoD still probably has the better lore and I do own V5 (although I'm missing the Lasombra and whatever they've called the Clan of Death writeups).

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 09:35 AM

Meanwhile I really like the CofD2e stuff. They've got rid of some of the worst rules aspects and added in the Conditions and Beats mechanics to help guide play, and thrown the attempts at competitive balance between lines out the window. This has resulted in most supernaturals getting a decent buff, especially Vampires and Changelings.

Plus the setting changes are mostly great, to me it feels a lot more focused. Although yes, aside from Changeling oWoD still probably has the better lore and I do own V5 (although I'm missing the Lasombra and whatever they've called the Clan of Death writeups).

Yeah thats why I dropped off, they made it an actual horror game now, and I don't do horror. I do action.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 09:37 AM

You also do this, where when someone points out a hypocrisy, you specifically avoid addressing it, either by not responding it, or never doing anything to get better about it.

Like criticizing your 'friend' for grammar issues.

I don't care about that anymore. I move on with that.

Rater202

2022-01-24, 09:42 AM

oh yeah I know about that guy and exalted Vs. Wod. I remember when I told him that he had no right to determine what I found fun once back when 3e first came out and everyone was arguing over the 3e crafting- or maybe it jsut 3e changes in general-- and I was on the anti side who wanted my magitech back. felt good, when people backed me on that. I was more foolish then.

still like Exalted Vs. WoD though, if only for the solar killing a bunch of vampires with a horse mask and mall katana and it being an option where the usual message of "be responsible with your power" is turned on its head as the Exalted are in a situation where they have to go whole-hog with their abilities to prevent the apocalypse as pretty much one of its lasts hopes (with maybe the Mages of Ascension helping). though I'd personally use MnM QDe to run that now, and I have trouble coming up with Exalted characters for a modern setting for some reason.

there is a CoD version in the works? and its just.....bringing back the normal message? eh. probably not my thing. I lost interest in CoD around the time they started announcing a 2nd edition of NwoD. the latest books I have for that is Demon the Descent stuff.Less the origal message and more... Literal. Li, actual rules for accidentally disrupting and changing reality when overusing your powers in an area becuase the world is less than it used to be and it can't without your full power.

Also, apparently, the Dragonblooded are considered to be a Conspiracy of Hunters, in universe.

Yeah, gonna be honest I haven't gotten any official CoD books in... A while. Still wanna do Princess one day but that's a fan game. Doesn't mean I'm not excited, if only becuase it'll probably be a good read.

Anyway, my current favorite part of what's already released are the rules for Liminels. Broken pseudo-zombies who don't know how to people, whose bodies feel wrong,

I was reading the write-up and the idea of a Stringy-Haired Ghost Girl in a white dress crawling out of a cauldron full of vampire blood and rendered down body parts and the first words out of her mouth are "father, why?"

...And then the Hedge Wizard who conjured her into existence(or so he thinks) is just... a sociopathic wizard version of Professor Utoniom. the Liminal is played straight as a tortured existence who isn't quite alive and feels compelled to destroy or banish the unquiet dead while trying to cope with memories that aren't hers and a body that doesn't feel right...

And then there's her "Dad" who is just.. Exactly professor Utonium except for the killing people for raw materials and the dabbling in forbidden magic.

Something about the sheer contrast, the... Bathos appeals to me. The sheer bathos of the young woman's tortured existence being contrasted against her father coming up from the basement laboratory, wiping the blood on his hands off on his lab coat, and then sitting down and trying to be an intellectual and a fifties sitcom-style doting father to her but never answering 'why he made her' appeals to me. She's played straight, he's played for black comedy and absurdity.

I don't know why. Something might be wrong with me.

Peelee

2022-01-24, 09:42 AM

I don't care about that anymore. I move on with that.

That's exactly the point MM was making. You have bad grammar and spelling mistakes, and we offer help or advice if you ask for it or mention it. Someone else has bad grammar ant sorting mistakes and you many fun of them and call them a crybaby when they don't like being made fun of. And when someone points this out to you, you brush it off so that you don't need to think about your own behavior.

And then you complain about "drama" that constantly happens with you in other online communities.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 09:47 AM

That's exactly the point MM was making. You have bad grammar and spelling mistakes, and we offer help or advice if you ask for it or mention it. Someone else has bad grammar ant sorting mistakes and you many fun of them and call them a crybaby when they don't like being made fun of. And when someone points this out to you, you brush it off so that you don't need to think about your own behavior.

And then you complain about "drama" that constantly happens with you in other online communities.

Ok, you made a point here.

HalfTangible

2022-01-24, 09:52 AM

While that's true, I feel like there is something about Exalted that somehow "works" better than K6BD for me.

Yeah, and the thing is I love crazy stuff happening too! I'm a huge fan of Undead Unluck and that series is ****ing bonkers and has the pacing of a bullet train. But it does have those slower moments to make things work, and a lot of heart. Exalted, being a TTRPG setting, doesn't really have any of that beyond just the implicit mechanical chunks that break up the ridiculous, unless you're actually playing it.

Incidentally I follow a pretty funny guy who has been recording his Exalted Essence (and the system Essence grew out of) game, if you want a recommendation. It's the only reason Exalted is anything in my brain other than "that silly dice game HT plays".

I've tried to get into K6BD. Never really liked it.

Exalted starts out silly-lookin and goofy as all hell but the more you dig into it the more you come across things that range from interesting, to morally gray, to genuinely disturbing. My favorite Exalted game actually took place before the fall of Thorns, and we as players were trying to deal with massive political instability, a rising death cult, the loss of Immaculate faith, and a domestic economy that was too small for the city. The only fights that game had were regimented duels and one fight with a random Greenmaw.

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 09:55 AM

...And then the Hedge Wizard who conjured her into existence(or so he thinks) is just... a sociopathic wizard version of Professor Utoniom. the Liminal is played straight as a tortured existence who isn't quite alive and feels compelled to destroy or banish the unquiet dead while trying to cope with memories that aren't hers and a body that doesn't feel right...

And then there's her "Dad" who is just.. Exactly professor Utonium except for the killing people for raw materials and the dabbling in forbidden magic.

Something about the sheer contrast, the... Bathos appeals to me. The sheer bathos of the young woman's tortured existence being contrasted against her father coming up from the basement laboratory, wiping the blood on his hands off on his lab coat, and then sitting down and trying to be an intellectual and a fifties sitcom-style doting father to her but never answering 'why he made her' appeals to me. She's played straight, he's played for black comedy and absurdity.

I don't know why. Something might be wrong with me.

comedy is a thing that breaks social rules and taboos. as is horror. don't worry about it. its why one of the oldest jokes is "The Aristocrats".

and yeah, sounds like a possible Liminal Exalted relationship as well. the one time I managed to get into Exalted game, the Twilight Sorceress I was playing was searching for her demon mother who wove her out of flesh because her human mother had died. my character was prepared for the demon mother to be the usual example of a Neomah but got a doting mother who baked cookies instead, more genuine than your example though (the Twilight Sorceress was basically just an Exalted prototype of Kimiko, for your information, wanted to become the greatest sorcerer in all of Creation, game didn't last very long)

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 09:59 AM

Ok, you made a point here.

He did make a point, yes.

But are you going to take it to heart? Is there going to be self reflection and change, or is this just one more in a series of continuing to just brush criticism off?

I've tried to get into K6BD. Never really liked it.

Exalted starts out silly-lookin and goofy as all hell but the more you dig into it the more you come across things that range from interesting, to morally gray, to genuinely disturbing. My favorite Exalted game actually took place before the fall of Thorns, and we as players were trying to deal with massive political instability, a rising death cult, the loss of Immaculate faith, and a domestic economy that was too small for the city. The only fights that game had were regimented duels and one fight with a random Greenmaw.

It is a series that aggressively wears what it is on its sleeve (originally created as a memey, forum born comic in the Homestuck fandom) and it is so built upon "Nihilism is good actually" that I just cannot so much as bare to think about it.

With RWBY, it's a brain worm that is amusing to talk about. Something bad that is enjoybly bad, for the most part. Hunter x Hunter and Jujutsu Kaisen are series that are annoyingly bad, where I cannot stand them and feel like I should be able to enjoy them, but cannot. Kill 6 Billion Demons is the infuriatingly bad, where its entire ethos is antithesis to my own beliefs, where almost every aspect of it is frustrating because I SHOuLD be able to like this, but it's outright refuses me. It strikes at me and says no, go away, the only character you like is named coca cola and she's been fridged now **** off.

Peelee

2022-01-24, 10:00 AM

its why one of the oldest jokes is "The Aristocrats".

No way is that joke older than a hundred years or so.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 10:04 AM

He did make a point, yes.

But are you going to take it to heart? Is there going to be self-reflection and change, or is this just one more in a series of continuing to just brush criticism off?

Yes. I'm going to take self-reflection and change. I'll admit I'm lazy and being a jerk to a lot of people. But that is not who I am. I'm a nice person in real life.

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 10:08 AM

I never really got into K6BD either, despite the Exalted fandom loving it. it seems to be more inspirational for its baroque eastern mythos inspired stuff than anything else. never could figure out what the plot was or what people were talking about half the time, and I don't remember much of it.

@ Peelee: a century is pretty old for a joke. most jokes don't live to see past a decade.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 10:10 AM

Yeah thats why I dropped off, they made it an actual horror game now, and I don't do horror. I do action.

Meanwhile I've found that I love horror aesthetics and themes, but hate the fore that people tend to insist on shoving in alongside it. One of my favourite games is Unknown Armies for the horror coming as much from the sacrifice of principles as anything else. Action in and of itself is boring.

But then again my favourite comic is Girl Genius because it balances the horrific parts of the worldbuilding with humour, and has great drama and action to go along with it. It does at points get across how terrifying the Jaegers must be to fight, or just how bad the Spark actually is for the world

Keltest

2022-01-24, 10:13 AM

Yes. I'm going to take self-reflection and change. I'll admit I'm lazy and being a jerk to a lot of people. But that is not who I am. I'm a nice person in real life.

The internet is real life too, you know. Every person on the other end of a computer screen is a real person. If you wouldnt say something to somebody's face, why would you do it online? I'll freely admit to being a rude person at times, but i try to avoid that kind of behavior, especially online because i can actually take the time to stop and think about what im about to say rather than having to maintain the flow of real conversation.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 10:19 AM

Yes. I'm going to take self-reflection and change. I'll admit I'm lazy and being a jerk to a lot of people. But that is not who I am. I'm a nice person in real life.

If you're being lazy and a jerk to a lot of people, that is in fact who you are.

You are what you repeatedly choose. If you are constantly choosing to be lazy and a jerk, that is who you've decided to be. You don't get to do that and claim you're not lazy and you're nice.

Peelee

2022-01-24, 10:21 AM

But that is not who I am.

I have seen many, many people make this claim. Always after showing people exactly who they are.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 10:25 AM

The internet is real life too, you know. Every person on the other end of a computer screen is a real person. If you wouldn't say something to somebody's face, why would you do it online? I'll freely admit to being a rude person at times, but i try to avoid that kind of behavior, especially online because i can take the time to stop and think about what I'm about to say rather than having to maintain the flow of real conversation.

I agree. You're right. Sometimes I have a strong opinion about certain issues and topics I do get overly aggressive and continue to defend every last breath and still stand by what I said. But I try to be open-minded about some issues. Sure I can be rude and obnoxious on this forum and I can be a pain of a butt to most members and moderators in this forum. But I do try to listen but I will sometimes be a bit hard-headed and something a bit arrogant like 'oh boy their opinions don't matter, I shouldn't listen what a bunch of people said so I'm going to do my thing.' This isn't an excuse for my past actions. I'll admit, I do get into conflicts with so many members with my other threads in this forum. But I do see everyone was trying to help me so I can get better. I love this forum so much and I don't have any problems with no one at all. :smile:

Rater202

2022-01-24, 10:26 AM

So I just looked it up, apparently, the oldest joke that we know of dates back to Sumeria, circa 1900 BCE.

It translates into something like this.

"What is something that has never happened since time immemorial?"

"A woman has never not farted while sitting on her husband's lap."

...So it's an awful marriage joke... and a fart joke, rolled into one.

The oldest joke known to man is something you might see in an episode of South Park.. Humor has... Basically stayed more or less unchanged in 4000 years. Things come and go but...

Which I think is the greatest joke of all. I can't stop laughing at the idea that... Is this a form of irony or a form of bathos?

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 10:29 AM

If you're being lazy and a jerk to a lot of people, that is in fact who you are.

You are what you repeatedly choose. If you are constantly choosing to be lazy and a jerk, that is who you've decided to be. You don't get to do that and claim you're not lazy and you're nice.

I have seen many, many people make this claim. Always after showing people exactly who they are.

Both of you are right but I'm not against anyone in this forum at all. If I did, then I would have left this forum a long time ago.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 10:32 AM

I agree. You're right. Sometimes I have a strong opinion about certain issues and topics I do get overly aggressive and continue to defend every last breath and still stand by what I said. But I try to be open-minded about some issues. Sure I can be rude and obnoxious on this forum and I can be a pain of a butt to most members and moderators in this forum. But I do try to listen but I will sometimes be a bit hard-headed and something a bit arrogant like 'oh boy their opinions don't matter, I shouldn't listen what a bunch of people said so I'm going to do my thing.' This isn't an excuse for my past actions. I'll admit, I do get into conflicts with so many members with my other threads in this forum. But I do see everyone was trying to help me so I can get better. I love this forum so much and I don't have any problems with no one at all. :smile:
Its nice that you appreciate us, but I for one find it rather off putting when you describe a situation like the facebook one from the other day and then act offended when people tell you that you were in the wrong, or when you just give a flat acknowledgement that people have said something and not act on it. It gives the impression that you just ignore everything that makes you uncomfortable. Even defending your behavior would be better, since at least then we know your honest thoughts even if we disagree with them.

So I just looked it up, apparently, the oldest joke that we know of dates back to Sumeria, circa 1900 BCE.

It translates into something like this.

"What is something that has never happened since time immemorial?"

"A woman has never not farted while sitting on her husband's lap."

...So it's an awful marriage joke... and a fart joke, rolled into one.

The oldest joke known to man is something you might see in an episode of South Park.. Humor has... Basically stayed more or less unchanged in 4000 years. Things come and go but...

Which I think is the greatest joke of all. I can't stop laughing at the idea that... Is this a form of irony or a form of bathos?

It just means that whenever you make a fart joke, no matter how many people groan or how many people throw things at you, its still one of the greatest schools of joke of all time.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 10:55 AM

Its nice that you appreciate us, but I for one find it rather off putting when you describe a situation like the facebook one from the other day and then act offended when people tell you that you were in the wrong, or when you just give a flat acknowledgement that people have said something and not act on it. It gives the impression that you just ignore everything that makes you uncomfortable. Even defending your behavior would be better, since at least then we know your honest thoughts even if we disagree with them.

Yes, I know. I was very close-minded which isn't anything new for me in this forum.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 11:32 AM

Both of you are right but I'm not against anyone in this forum at all. If I did, then I would have left this forum a long time ago.

Bartmanhomer, I'm not particularly concerned about your opinion of me.

What I and others are concerned about is that you seem to take pride in what is basically bullying other people. Sometimes for flaws you yourself have. You constantly come here to complain about people in other communities, and I wouldn't be surprised if you complained about us to those communities.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 11:41 AM

Bartmanhomer, I'm not particularly concerned about your opinion of me.

What I and others are concerned about is that you seem to take pride in what is bullying other people. Sometimes for flaws you have. You constantly come here to complain about people in other communities, and I wouldn't be surprised if you complained about us to those communities.

First of all, I'm no bully. I don't like bullies period and second I never complained about this forum in the other communities that I go to and I like said in my previous post if I did have an issue with this forum I wouldn't be here at all.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 11:42 AM

First of all, I'm no bully. I don't like bullies period and second I never complained about this forum in the other communities that I go to and I like said in my previous post if I did have an issue with this forum I wouldn't be here at all.

You say you arent a bully, but you regularly post here talking about how you just bullied some person and think its funny.

That sounds like a bully to me.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 11:44 AM

You say you arent a bully, but you regularly post here talking about how you just bullied some person and think its funny.

That sounds like a bully to me.

Please provide actual proof, evidence, or receipts that I mention I bullied someone.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 11:51 AM

Please provide actual proof, evidence, or receipts that I mention I bullied someone.

Gladly.

Ok, one of my Facebook friends blocks me at Facebook because I was laughing that she misspell the word ethics. I don't know why she made a big freaking deal about it. It was a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously. :mad:

The big deal is that you were making fun of her over something trivial. That was hurtful, you didnt have to do it.

Why? Because she was so hyper-sensitive over a damn spelling. Whatever! She should have a more tougher skin. **** her crybaby feelings. :mad:

Right here.

DataNinja

2022-01-24, 11:52 AM

Please provide actual proof, evidence, or receipts that I mention I bullied someone.

You may not have used the term bullied, but you say you make fun of people for X or Y reason all the time. That's how this conversation came up in the first place!

You're attempting to make people feel bad for things they've done, and you've been proud of doing it. That's not a healthy way to approach other people. That's just being a jerk.

Peelee

2022-01-24, 11:52 AM

Please provide actual proof, evidence, or receipts that I mention I bullied someone.
Bullying:
Ok, one of my Facebook friends blocks me at Facebook because I was laughing that she misspell the word ethics. I don't know why she made a big freaking deal about it. It was a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously. :mad:
Continuing to bully:

Why? Because she was so hyper-sensitive over a damn spelling. Whatever! She should have a more tougher skin. **** her crybaby feelings. :mad:
Being pleased with yourself over bullying:

I don't have a problem with that at all. :smile:

I still stand by what I said and I don't feel any sympathy at all.
Suddenly trying to claim the exact opposite of what you have been saying before:

But that is not who I am. I'm a nice person in real life.

The next time you make a simple spelling mistake, if someone makes fun of you, and then calls you a crybaby, would you call that person "a nice person"? Because I wouldn't.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 11:52 AM

Beat me to it. And then before that, you were bragging about beating a novice chess player and made fun of them for not playing particularly well.

These are not nice things to be doing.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 11:53 AM

Ok, I did mention that.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 11:58 AM

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:00 PM

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 12:02 PM

There's an old saying that, if everyone around you smells like dog poop, maybe they aren't the ones who stepped in something.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:03 PM

There's an old saying that, if everyone around you smells like dog poop, maybe they aren't the ones who stepped in something.

What does that mean?

Keltest

2022-01-24, 12:05 PM

What does that mean?

Literally, the implication is that if you're smelling dog poop everywhere you go, its probably because you're the source, IE you stepped in dog poop. Applied to this situation, it means you should give serious thought to the idea that you are the source of the drama, not the other communities.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:06 PM

Literally, the implication is that if you're smelling dog poop everywhere you go, its probably because you're the source, IE you stepped in dog poop. Applied to this situation, it means you should give serious thought to the idea that you are the source of the drama, not the other communities.

Ok, you're right about that.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 12:07 PM

Ok, you're right about that.

And yet you dont seem to be willing to adjust your behavior, even though it leads to outcomes you dont like, you claim to feel bad about it, and it matched behavior that you claim that you personally dislike.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 12:08 PM

Frankly, the fact that you do this sort of thing is almost certainly directly connected to the "drama" that you claim to hate and want to avoid so much. Certainly we arent sitting still when we hear about it, and many other communities are not as polite as this one is.

Yeah, generally the best way to find the creator of the drama is to look at who's involved in a lot of it.

Now granted, it's possible that such a person is legitimately just reacting to something someone else did. But even then most of the time their decision to react is what caused the drama.

Although the biggest incident of drama I was involved with at work almost dragged on because I admitted fault. But that was a strange situation that brought up other grievances.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:10 PM

And yet you dont seem to be willing to adjust your behavior, even though it leads to outcomes you dont like, you claim to feel bad about it, and it matched behavior that you claim that you personally dislike.

And I'm going to change.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 12:13 PM

And I'm going to change.

Why should I believe you this time?

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:15 PM

Why should I believe you this time?

You don't have to believe me.

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 12:18 PM

Fun fact for all of you fine folk; the densest star known to man is so dense that a sugar cube worth of its material would weight 100 million tons. And that's pretty god damn dense, if I do say so myself.

In happier knews; someone asked me (with regards to some writing I did) if I was pulling words from a wiki, or if I was "just that poetic". Suffice to say I'm feeling great today.

Keltest

2022-01-24, 12:18 PM

You don't have to believe me.

And you dont have to change, either. But if you dont, i rather suspect you will eventually encounter a problem that you cant just ignore until it goes away. This community for example is unlikely to tolerate stories of bullying indefinitely.

DataNinja

2022-01-24, 12:19 PM

You don't have to believe me.

We don't, but, frankly, if you're not actually going to improve, we'd all be better both agreeing to that fact. Because it is exhausting trying to help you when you don't seem to want to be helped. So if you're not going to accept help, then it'll just save everyone's time to have that be open.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:23 PM

And you dont have to change, either. But if you dont, i rather suspect you will eventually encounter a problem that you cant just ignore until it goes away. This community for example is unlikely to tolerate stories of bullying indefinitely.

I'm going to change. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to. I never once have any problems at all with this forum and everybody's advice is very good. :smile:

Peelee

2022-01-24, 12:26 PM

Fun fact for all of you fine folk; the densest star known to man is so dense that a sugar cube worth of its material would weight 100 million tons. And that's pretty god damn dense, if I do say so myself.

In happier knews; someone asked me (with regards to some writing I did) if I was pulling words from a wiki, or if I was "just that poetic". Suffice to say I'm feeling great today.

I tried talking to that star but I just couldn't get through to it.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:28 PM

Fun fact for all of you fine folk; the densest star known to man is so dense that a sugar cube worth of its material would weight 100 million tons. And that's pretty god damn dense, if I do say so myself.

In happier knews; someone asked me (with regards to some writing I did) if I was pulling words from a wiki, or if I was "just that poetic". Suffice to say I'm feeling great today.

That's wonderful Zodi. :smile:

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 12:34 PM

Fun fact for all of you fine folk; the densest star known to man is so dense that a sugar cube worth of its material would weight 100 million tons. And that's pretty god damn dense, if I do say so myself.

Which part of the star? Are we talking core or atmosphere?

I'm going to change. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to. I never once have any problems at all with this forum and everybody's advice is very good. :smile:

The thing is, we don't believe you're going to change, and that means we're going to stop offering advice. Which is in some ways a best case scenario, we could start ignoring these stories entirely or going so far as to actively stop ourselves from seeing your posts.

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 12:35 PM

I tried talking to that star but I just couldn't get through to it.

God I know right. Some celestial bodies.

I also recently clipped the nail on my right pointer finger a little too close so it's been hurting for a bit... though it's finally back to normal so that's good!

Peelee

2022-01-24, 12:36 PM

Which part of the star? Are we talking core or atmosphere?

I'd guess a neutron star, so the neutral part.

DataNinja

2022-01-24, 12:38 PM

I'd guess a neutron star, so the neutral part.

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were they just born with a heart full of neutrality?

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:40 PM

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were they just born with a heart full of neutrality?

True Neutral right here. :biggrin:

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 12:47 PM

True Neutral right here. :biggrin:

Despite the fact that alignments aren't applicable to real life, from the stories I've heard I doubt that

HalfTangible

2022-01-24, 12:48 PM

If by these percentages you mean:
inspired by Night's Master, Hawkmoon, Imajica, The Black Company, A Song of Ice and Fire, The complete Pegana, Conan the Cimmerian, The Illiad, Journey to the West, Book of Judges, Inuyasha, Claymore, Ninja Scroll, Howl's Moving Castle, the Bride with White Hair, Rome (2005), dynasty warriors, Final Fantasy 7, and Dissidia Final Fantasy, then yes.

because those are suggested specific resources to look for inspiration in the 3rd edition corebook. to say "western fantasy" isn't quite specific enough because it conjures images of tolkienesque worlds of dwarves and elves and hobbits which Exalted is not. to say old world of darkness is slightly true but the connection is thrown out long ago by now, and shounen fighting anime....only if you count Inuyasha and Claymore. Ninja Scroll is something darker than both, and dynasty warriors and FF are videogames. the big three and Dragonball aren't even on there. though I have seen the devs say the 3rd edition artifact weapons are inspired by zanpakuto from Bleach in passing.

@ Zodi: please do recommend it, I love exalted, but finding a game for it online is like hunting for El Dorado.There's an Exalted Discord that regularly hosts games I could point you to, if you like.

"only if you count Inuyasha and Claymore"

... why? Shounen battle anime/manga fits perfectly with (certain) aspects of Exalted combat. Pretty sure Solars have a charm that is just a DBZ ki blast.

It is a series that aggressively wears what it is on its sleeve (originally created as a memey, forum born comic in the Homestuck fandom) and it is so built upon "Nihilism is good actually" that I just cannot so much as bare to think about it.

With RWBY, it's a brain worm that is amusing to talk about. Something bad that is enjoybly bad, for the most part. Hunter x Hunter and Jujutsu Kaisen are series that are annoyingly bad, where I cannot stand them and feel like I should be able to enjoy them, but cannot. Kill 6 Billion Demons is the infuriatingly bad, where its entire ethos is antithesis to my own beliefs, where almost every aspect of it is frustrating because I SHOuLD be able to like this, but it's outright refuses me. It strikes at me and says no, go away, the only character you like is named coca cola and she's been fridged now **** off.

I never really got into K6BD either, despite the Exalted fandom loving it. it seems to be more inspirational for its baroque eastern mythos inspired stuff than anything else. never could figure out what the plot was or what people were talking about half the time, and I don't remember much of it.

I tried to read the comic multiple times and I know nothing about its world or characters that actually seems interesting.

Look bitch (the MC of the comic, not either of you) I get it. You just want to get laid. Nothing wrong with that (beyond the extramarital sex in my Christian minecraft server). But if you're clearly not interested in this other world you're in why should I be? Why should I read past the point where you appear to be back in your house? Why should I care if your boyfriend is missing when all I know about him is you were banging? (And maybe I was just misreading but it seemed like you were very uncomfortable with the sex anyway)

Also the art is ugly. Incredibly, immensely, "you've got to be doing this on purpose", Bob from Canada ugly.

The only thing I like about it is that it held a contest wherein the fans submitted fancomics of their OCs fighting each other in a tournament, and the winner was determined by a vote of the other people reading the comics. That was very cool and I wish more webcomics did that.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:49 PM

Despite the fact that alignments aren't applicable to real life, from the stories I've heard I doubt that

I know that alignment isn't real but I do love alignments. :biggrin:

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 12:52 PM

I'm going to change. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to. I never once have any problems at all with this forum and everybody's advice is very good. :smile:

Okay, let me ask you directly.

What are you going to do differently?

And again, be honest. If you're not going to change, just let us know and we'll stop giving you feedback.

True Neutral right here. :biggrin:

In the past week you've claimed to be Chaotic Good, Toxic Evil, and now True Neutral.

Yeah, alignments are definitely BS.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 12:55 PM

Okay, let me ask you directly.

What are you going to do differently?

And again, be honest. If you're not going to change, just let us know and we'll stop giving you feedback.

In the past week you've claimed to be Chaotic Good, Toxic Evil, and now True Neutral.

Yeah, alignments are definitely BS.
Well listening to everyone's advice for once. Two don't be nasty and mean to people. Be very supportive and not be a total jerk to them. :smile:

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 12:55 PM

There's an Exalted Discord that regularly hosts games I could point you to, if you like.

"only if you count Inuyasha and Claymore"

... why? Shounen battle anime/manga fits perfectly with (certain) aspects of Exalted combat. Pretty sure Solars have a charm that is just a DBZ ki blast.

I tried to read the comic multiple times and I know nothing about its world or characters that actually seems interesting.

Look bitch (the MC of the comic, not either of you) I get it. You just want to get laid. Nothing wrong with that (beyond the extramarital sex in my Christian minecraft server). But if you're clearly not interested in this other world you're in why should I be? Why should I read past the point where you appear to be back in your house? Why should I care if your boyfriend is missing when all I know about him is you were banging? (And maybe I was just misreading but it seemed like you were very uncomfortable with the sex anyway)

Also the art is ugly. Incredibly, immensely, "you've got to be doing this on purpose", Bob from Canada ugly.

The only thing I like about it is that it held a contest wherein the fans submitted fancomics of their OCs fighting each other in a tournament, and the winner was determined by a vote of the other people reading the comics. That was very cool and I wish more webcomics did that.

They never actually did it, it was going to be her first goaround but instead she gets an adorable gremlin imp girlfriend*... and never once stops hating basically every aspect of what is going on. Also god yeah I get some people are into it but the art is just... it doesn't, for me.

The Tournament of Power was kinda neat, though it doesn't affect anything at all in the comic and is just a fan thing that is non canon and without any purpose beyond inspiring others to write (Good) within this setting where nothing matters and life is pointless and joy is dead (bad).

*the relationship is rushed to the point where I, noted girl-kiss liker, do not care about it. It's gazey and kinda gross and completely unfulfilling on every single metric one could get a romantic relationship. And also she's dead now.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 12:55 PM

My current alignment is horizontal :smallbiggrin:

Form

2022-01-24, 12:56 PM

I tried to read the comic multiple times and I know nothing about its world or characters that actually seems interesting.

Look bitch (the MC of the comic, not either of you) I get it. You just want to get laid. Nothing wrong with that (beyond the extramarital sex in my Christian minecraft server). But if you're clearly not interested in this other world you're in why should I be? Why should I read past the point where you appear to be back in your house? Why should I care if your boyfriend is missing when all I know about him is you were banging? (And maybe I was just misreading but it seemed like you were very uncomfortable with the sex anyway)

Also the art is ugly. Incredibly, immensely, "you've got to be doing this on purpose", Bob from Canada ugly.

The only thing I like about it is that it held a contest wherein the fans submitted fancomics of their OCs fighting each other in a tournament, and the winner was determined by a vote of the other people reading the comics. That was very cool and I wish more webcomics did that.

Huh. I rather appreciate K6BD and its artwork and find myself routinely impressed with the level of detail. There's also the little lore blurbs the author tends to place beneath comic pages that I like. But it's not everyone's jam, that's clear.

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were they just born with a heart full of neutrality?

I have no strong feelings one way or the other!

Rater202

2022-01-24, 12:58 PM

Changing my answer.

My alignment is "seven wolverines in a trenchcoat. None of them know what body part they're supposed to be pretending to be or have any idea what the plan is, two of them hate each other, a third ran out of ****s to give years ago, one is afraid of everything, one of them might actually be a raccoon, and the remaining two are just trying to figure out what the hell is going on. It's impossible to tell them apart. Also, they all think the trenchcoat sucks and want a new one but none of them can agree on what improvements the new trenchcoat should have."

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 01:03 PM

Huh. I rather appreciate K6BD and its artwork and find myself routinely impressed with the level of detail. There's also the little lore blurbs the author tends to place beneath comic pages that I like. But it's not everyone's jam, that's clear.

I have no strong feelings one way or the other!

It's one of those things where it just feels too cluttered, or just too... sound and fury, signifying nothing? Tons upon tons of little details in the art, but how many of them matter? Is making each massive spread a where's waldo or interesting details actually useful for more than just set dressing- is this a case where less might be more?

That grousing aside, while the art is from a technical standpoint really strong, it just isn't a sort of art style I enjoy much. Or, at least, not much Abaddon draws fits my tastes.

My alignment is bisexual, and wibbly-wobbly ace-ish maybe?? Who knows.

Lord Raziere

2022-01-24, 01:23 PM

Form

2022-01-24, 01:28 PM

It's one of those things where it just feels too cluttered, or just too... sound and fury, signifying nothing? Tons upon tons of little details in the art, but how many of them matter? Is making each massive spread a where's waldo or interesting details actually useful for more than just set dressing- is this a case where less might be more?

From what I recall most the time the details in the background or a character's attire don't really have any relevance to the plot, but it does make the world depicted in K6BD feel more vibrant and alive to me. Backgrounds aren't bland and boring as if there's only an irrelevant void outside of the protagonists; there's an actual world there instead. I can really appreciate all the little details because of that.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 01:30 PM

Well listening to everyone's advice for once. Two don't be nasty and mean to people. Be very supportive and not be a total jerk to them. :smile:

The fact you seem to think this is so easy makes me alarmed you haven't done this the last 6 times we told you this was a problem.

And you ignoring us each time we have is why some here don't believe you have any intention of changing.

Tvtyrant

2022-01-24, 01:32 PM

I like the art for K6BD a lot, and the story is ok. I dislike every single character personally, which made me drop the series after a while. When the nicest person is an evil dragon your story has problems.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 01:37 PM

The fact you seem to think this is so easy makes me alarmed you haven't done this the last 6 times we told you this was a problem.

And you ignoring us each time we have is why some here don't believe you have any intention of changing.

As I said several times before don't believe my words then.

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 01:41 PM

From what I recall most the time the details in the background or a character's attire don't really have any relevance to the plot, but it does make the world depicted in K6BD feel more vibrant and alive to me. Backgrounds aren't bland and boring as if there's only an irrelevant void outside of the protagonists; there's an actual world there instead. I can really appreciate all the little details because of that.

Entirely fair. I find it a bit much, and of course also dislike No Backgrounds-itus. I want that comfortable middle ground.

I like the art for K6BD a lot, and the story is ok. I dislike every single character personally, which made me drop the series after a while. When the nicest person is an evil dragon your story has problems.

Yeah that's part of my issue with the story. Agonizing all encompassing nihilism, following a bunch of *******s who don't want to be here and aren't going to be allowed any level of levity or joy. Cio is my favorite because she's aggressively a type of character I do just, inherently enjoy.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-24, 01:58 PM

As I said several times before don't believe my words then.

This has been brought up several times before as mentioned, you called yourself toxic evil, you named the thread 'Evil', you have not once shown remorse for the latest things we've pointed out (instead just admitting that you did that), and you have not apparently made any effort to make up for your actions, or at least have not mentioned any intention of doing so.

Give us literally one reason to think you're actually going to change this time aside from just saying you will. Give us some reason to believe your contrition is genuine this time.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 02:02 PM

This has been brought up several times before as mentioned, you called yourself toxic evil, you named the thread 'Evil', you have not once shown remorse for the latest things we've pointed out (instead just admitting that you did that), and you have not apparently made any effort to make up for your actions, or at least have not mentioned any intention of doing so.

Give us literally one reason to think you're actually going to change this time aside from just saying you will. Give us some reason to believe your contrition is genuine this time.
I'm not going to continue having this conversation anymore. If you don't believe me, then stop helping me then and I'm not going to continue to repeat myself. :annoyed:

Fyraltari

2022-01-24, 02:07 PM

So how many demons is the protagonist of Kill Six Billion Demons up to, by now? A million? Ten million? A billion and a half?

LaZodiac

2022-01-24, 02:12 PM

So how many demons is the protagonist of Kill Six Billion Demons up to, by now? A million? Ten million? A billion and a half?

Zero, unless you count her bedding one as killing.

All jokes aside (though it's true she hasn't killed any demons) Allison is one of if not the worst protagonists I've ever experienced. She is completely without agency, every time she tries to act it is basically ignored or makes things worse, and the context of the series the only thing she SHOULD do is just let it all happen and don't try anymore. Philosophically she could become Kill 6 Billion Demons and maybe Do Something, but that'd just be completely buying into the nihilistic bull**** of the villains.... effectively meaning nothing has changed and its all been meaningless in every way that it could matter. If she DOES NOT become Kill 6 Billion Demons, and instead causes great change via peaceful methods, actually succeeds in breaking the cycle of violence, actually succeeds in throwing off the wheel of life...

the fanbase would ****ing revolt because the inherent violence and nihilism of the bad guys, and the world, is what people like about the setting. In order for Allison to become the hero she's supposed to be and make the world better, she has to either become as worse as her enemies, solving nothing, or make the series end in a way that alienates almost the entire fanbase because it's not violent and bloody enough.

Form

2022-01-24, 02:14 PM

So how many demons is the protagonist of Kill Six Billion Demons up to, by now? A million? Ten million? A billion and a half?

Erhm...... I think she's still at zero?

...

Kind of wish I could earn fancy titles like that for myself, though, but just killing the one demon is beyond my powers. Maybe I should go for something easier. Writes one billion lines of code. Enriches corporate masters by one million dollars. Takes out the trash*.

*Like the actual trash. It's not like some Dirty Harry one-liner.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 02:32 PM

I'm happy is Monday and I did so much work at my job today. :smile:

Fyraltari

2022-01-24, 02:38 PM

Zero, unless you count her bedding one as killing.

Erhm...... I think she's still at zero?

https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x0/2/9/dde3bd6098af5ec4d00551368fec6962024249db076d1cc42c ed2ce77ed4cb/dis1.gif?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fr%2 Fdis1.gif&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=1

This is false advertising!

HalfTangible

2022-01-24, 04:01 PM

They never actually did it, it was going to be her first goaround but instead she gets an adorable gremlin imp girlfriend*... and never once stops hating basically every aspect of what is going on. Also god yeah I get some people are into it but the art is just... it doesn't, for me.

The Tournament of Power was kinda neat, though it doesn't affect anything at all in the comic and is just a fan thing that is non canon and without any purpose beyond inspiring others to write (Good) within this setting where nothing matters and life is pointless and joy is dead (bad).

*the relationship is rushed to the point where I, noted girl-kiss liker, do not care about it. It's gazey and kinda gross and completely unfulfilling on every single metric one could get a romantic relationship. And also she's dead now.Weren't they just about to do the deed when suddenly cavalry charge?

I completely forgot about the little imp. IIRC she was okay.

But yeah. If this girl, who is supposed to be the main character and audience surrogate, is so utterly uninterested in this world she's now in... why should we be?

Huh. I rather appreciate K6BD and its artwork and find myself routinely impressed with the level of detail. There's also the little lore blurbs the author tends to place beneath comic pages that I like. But it's not everyone's jam, that's clear.

I can understand that. Old 40k art is supremely detailed and I appreciate the skill it took to create but so much of it looks like it's got the plague laced into the page.

Astrella

2022-01-24, 04:17 PM

I'm happy is Monday and I did so much work at my job today. :smile:

Nice. :) I had a fairly productive day today as well.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 04:18 PM

Nice. :) I had a fairly productive day today as well.

Cool. What did you do today? :smile:

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-24, 05:40 PM

I can understand that. Old 40k art is supremely detailed and I appreciate the skill it took to create but so much of it looks like it's got the plague laced into the page.

Oh yeah, too many details is bad. It's kind of why I like Girl Genius, it can be detailed with many great things in the background but it's never too detailed.

HalfTangible

2022-01-24, 06:00 PM

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 06:11 PM

HalfTangible

2022-01-24, 06:14 PM

Oh yeah, too many details is bad. It's kind of why I like Girl Genius, it can be detailed with many great things in the background but it's never too detailed.

Well, it's less that, and more that early 40k art was deliberately disgusting and horrifying to look at. This is a demon (https://loginportal.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Warhammer_28df5f_5847907.jpg), so yeah, it's supposed to look ugly, but they also draw a lot of humans like this. This is supposed to be Magnus the Red (https://i.redd.it/i3z9mj86ae971.jpg), a friggen Primarch, before he falls to Chaos and turns into a demon. And here's Leman Russ (https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/SGM-Daly91/Warhammer%2040K/PrimarchLemanRuss-GreatCrusade.jpg), loyalist primarch.

And yeah, that's a major point of 40k, humanity has fallen so far there's not even hope for recovery at this point, but it's still unpleasant to look at, even if there's a good reason for it. Some of it (https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette4.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fwar hammer40k%2Fimages%2F0%2F06%2FCodex_Angels_of_Deat h_Cover2.jpg%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D2012031605 0655&f=1&nofb=1) works really well and I like it (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/dc/08/d9dc08fddfb00be7b3ddd2782dbccad2.jpg), and the newer stuff (https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/ROP-throne-horz.jpg) can be downright amazing, but others... yurgh.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-24, 10:06 PM

Anyway. I'm at home relaxing in bed at the moment, watching CSI: The Original Series. :smile:

Form

2022-01-25, 03:03 AM

Oh yeah, too many details is bad. It's kind of why I like Girl Genius, it can be detailed with many great things in the background but it's never too detailed.

I used to read Girl Genius, because its premise of a bunch of mad scientist running amok all over Europe is cool, but at some point I lost interest. There's a lot going on in that comic and I'd kind of wish the author would focus a bit more on resolving already running plotlines before adding yet even more new stuff. At some point it started feeling too chaotic plot wise for my taste.

Went to look at apartments today.

Place 1 was right across from work, I could just walk there every day if I wanted. And since I work there, I get to waive 175 in admin fees. So that's awesome.

Place 2 had nicer, larger apartments with better layouts, but was further away (albeit not far, like 10 minutes tops) and had a significantly higher price tag.

Got a third and fourth place to look at tomorrow. One of them was the place I first looked at when I was looking into places to move to in NC. The other is right next to Place 1. So that's a thing.

If the travel difference is only 10 minutes and both places are really close to work I'd probably favor place 2 if I'd be able to afford it as long as I wouldn't have to start worrying about my financial security. Good luck with checking out places 3 and 4!

Rater202

2022-01-25, 04:46 AM

The main furnace suddenly went out. It is nine degrees outside.

(-12.7778 celsius)

Luckily we have electric heaters, but...

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 05:06 AM

The main furnace suddenly went out. It is nine degrees outside.

(-12.7778 celsius)

Luckily we have electric heaters, but...

Let us know if you die, Rater.

More seriously, my sympathies, hope your heaters are powerful enough to heat up the room without costing too much.

BisectedBrioche

2022-01-25, 05:50 AM

The main furnace suddenly went out. It is nine degrees outside.

(-12.7778 celsius)

Luckily we have electric heaters, but...

Ironically, that's not cool!

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 05:51 AM

Ironically, that's not cool!
Indeed, it's pretty cold.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-25, 05:56 AM

I used to read Girl Genius, because its premise of a bunch of mad scientist running amok all over Europe is cool, but at some point I lost interest. There's a lot going on in that comic and I'd kind of wish the author would focus a bit more on resolving already running plotlines before adding yet even more new stuff. At some point it started feeling too chaotic plot wise for my taste.

Eh, it's no more complicated than your standard 3000 page science fiction/fantasy trilogy. Plus it's likely all beginning to wind down.

It might also be easier to read everything together after it's finished. Some stories are better that way.

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 10:18 AM

*looks outside at the -40 C hellscape I walk through to work each day*

Yeah that's pretty cold Rater. Good luck!

HalfTangible

2022-01-25, 11:10 AM

Went to look at apartments today.

Place 1 was right across from work, I could just walk there every day if I wanted. And since I work there, I get to waive 175 in admin fees. So that's awesome.

Place 2 had nicer, larger apartments with better layouts, but was further away (albeit not far, like 10 minutes tops) and had a significantly higher price tag.

Got a third and fourth place to look at tomorrow. One of them was the place I first looked at when I was looking into places to move to in NC. The other is right next to Place 1. So that's a thing.

Place 3 was the original place I was looking at. I think I would've been fine enough with it if I had just gone straight in without thinking further about it; it's right on the road that goes to work, it's close to shopping areas, apartments are nice, etc... but place 1 and 2 are both better options.

*looks outside at the -40 C hellscape I walk through to work each day*

Yeah that's pretty cold Rater. Good luck!

Why do people live there?!

Peelee

2022-01-25, 11:22 AM

Place 3 was the original place I was looking at. I think I would've been fine enough with it if I had just gone straight in without thinking further about it; it's right on the road that goes to work, it's close to shopping areas, apartments are nice, etc... but place 1 and 2 are both better options.
Place 1 sounds ideal. You know, for a fact, you will be making the commute to work and back (presumably) five times a week. Making that as little an annoyance as possible really adds up.

Why do people live there?!

If you call that living.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 11:23 AM

I hate being patient. Patience isn't my strong suit.

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 11:38 AM

I hate being patient. Patience isn't my strong suit.

We noticed.

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 11:42 AM

Place 3 was the original place I was looking at. I think I would've been fine enough with it if I had just gone straight in without thinking further about it; it's right on the road that goes to work, it's close to shopping areas, apartments are nice, etc... but place 1 and 2 are both better options.

Why do people live there?!

It's not that cold all the time! Just most of the time!

Place 1 sounds ideal. You know, for a fact, you will be making the commute to work and back (presumably) five times a week. Making that as little an annoyance as possible really adds up.

If you call that living.

Haha, yeah. Yeah...

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 11:46 AM

*looks outside at the -40 C hellscape I walk through to work each day*
https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/b/3/e6005c44e43c3d70e353263045c4b1e35e47a76be9dc5970e0 9853bacd479e/when-you-live-somewhere-where-the-air-hurts-your-face-13380407.png?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpics.onsizzle.com%2Fw hen-you-live-somewhere-where-the-air-hurts-your-face-13380407.png&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0

Why do people live there?!

Humans are space orcs?

Peelee

2022-01-25, 11:47 AM

It's not that cold all the time! Just most of the time!

It is currently 13º C here, which I would describe as absolutely freezing.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 11:50 AM

We noticed.

Well, I'm glad that you noticed. Every time I have to wait outside for the movie theater to be open. I get frustrated. My mind tells me: "Open the door already so I can watch the movie." It's so frustrating. :annoyed:

Form

2022-01-25, 11:51 AM

It is currently 13º C here, which I would describe as absolutely freezing.

Just stay inside, surrounded by the comfortable glow of the tv, the computer and books.

Keltest

2022-01-25, 11:51 AM

It is currently 13º C here, which I would describe as absolutely freezing.

Oh please, i bet your hair doesnt even collect ice if you go outside.

Rater202

2022-01-25, 11:58 AM

Humans are space orcs?

Can I trade my space orcness for space dragoness?https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/5/5b/Knull_%28Earth-616%29%2C_All-Black_%28Symbiote%29_%28Earth-616%29%2C_and_Symbiote_Dragons_%28Earth-616%29_from_Silver_Surfer_Black_Vol_1_2_001.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/958?cb=20191122074306

Image from Marvel Database wiki.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 12:06 PM

Well, I'm glad that you noticed. Every time I have to wait outside for the movie theater to be open. I get frustrated. My mind tells me: "Open the door already so I can watch the movie." It's so frustrating. :annoyed:
Maybe you should consider that you're not the only person in the world and that other people are doing things in junction with you, and you might be more understanding and have more patience.

Just stay inside, surrounded by the comfortable glow of the tv, the computer and books.
Capital idea!

Oh please, i bet your hair doesnt even collect ice if you go outside.
https://c.tenor.com/aGjB0c7wgOYAAAAC/jaws-dolly.gif

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 12:11 PM

Maybe you should consider that you're not the only person in the world and that other people are doing things in junction with you, and you might be more understanding and have more patience.

Capital idea!

https://c.tenor.com/aGjB0c7wgOYAAAAC/jaws-dolly.gif

I know that. I'm the type of person who's energetic at a fast pace. If I want something done, I'll do it very quickly.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 12:16 PM

I know that. I'm the type of person who's energetic at a fast pace. If I want something done, I'll do it very quickly.

I don't think you do know that. Of the three sentences you wrote there, two of them espouse a remarkably egocentric view in context of the conversation. You're ignoring that other people are different from you and you expect them to match you. You get annoyed when you don't. You're clearly not taking other people into consideration for anything other than what they are (or are not) doing for you.

They have stuff to do. Your movie is going to start at a set time regardless. The doors opening a couple minutes earlier isn't going to make the movie start any faster, and there's a reason those doors are closed (and that reason is the other people are doing things that need to be done before the doors open).

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 12:19 PM

I don't think you do know that. Of the three sentences you wrote there, two of them espouse a remarkably egocentric view in context of the conversation. You're ignoring that other people are different from you and you expect them to match you. You get annoyed when you don't. You're clearly not taking other people into consideration for anything other than what they are (or are not) doing for you.

They have stuff to do. Your movie is going to start at a set time regardless. The doors opening a couple minutes earlier isn't going to make the movie start any faster, and there's a reason those doors are closed (and that reason is the other people are doing things that need to be done before the doors open).

So what are you saying then? :confused:

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 12:27 PM

So what are you saying then? :confused:

That your frustration might lessen if you take the time to reflect as to why the movies isn't starting right now. Trying to think about things from other people's perspective might help you build your patience.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 12:27 PM

So what are you saying then? :confused:

Maybe you should consider that you're not the only person in the world and that other people are doing things in junction with you, and you might be more understanding and have more patience.

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 12:32 PM

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-25, 12:44 PM

I don't think you do know that. Of the three sentences you wrote there, two of them espouse a remarkably egocentric view in context of the conversation. You're ignoring that other people are different from you and you expect them to match you.

Peelee's entire post nails it on the head, but I want to focus in on these sentences.

Bartmanhomer, none of what Peelee says is new. I can think of at least one moment where you've wished for somebody else's good thing to be undone because it inconveniences you, and you've shown a consistent tendency to brush off or ignore attempts to help you improve. That fact that people are willing to outright state they don't trust you should be shocking, as is the fact that people are becoming less willing to give advice. Thankfully people here are being polite about it, there are many places that would be less tolerant.

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 02:13 PM

https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/b/3/e6005c44e43c3d70e353263045c4b1e35e47a76be9dc5970e0 9853bacd479e/when-you-live-somewhere-where-the-air-hurts-your-face-13380407.png?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpics.onsizzle.com%2Fw hen-you-live-somewhere-where-the-air-hurts-your-face-13380407.png&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0

Humans are space orcs?

One of my favorite aspects of living in the north is the weather phenomena known as Ice Crystals. Where it gets so cold the water molecules in the air freeze and it starts getting a little foggy... from all the ice floating in the air. It's like breathing knives. It's like walking through sharp, as a concept. The weather is cold rocks. It's amazing.

It is currently 13º C here, which I would describe as absolutely freezing.

That sounds like lovely, pleasant spring weather and I'm not kidding. And like someone else said; at this temperature you're not even at risk of your eyelashes sticking together due to the frost. How can that ever be considered freezing! It's not even below zero yet!

Form

2022-01-25, 02:19 PM

One of my favorite aspects of living in the north is the weather phenomena known as Ice Crystals. Where it gets so cold the water molecules in the air freeze and it starts getting a little foggy... from all the ice floating in the air. It's like breathing knives. It's like walking through sharp, as a concept. The weather is cold rocks. It's amazing.

You sell it so well. Already planning my next vacation there. :smalltongue:

Rater202

2022-01-25, 02:32 PM

So what I'm reading is that you live in northern Canada because Canadians get stronger every time somethings hurts them but doesn't kill them?

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 02:39 PM

You sell it so well. Already planning my next vacation there. :smalltongue:

To be fair it is quite beautiful. We had a power outage last night and the city looked like this! (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338468208631611393/935371366151118918/20220124_201116.jpg)

So what I'm reading is that you live in northern Canada because Canadians get stronger every time somethings hurts them but doesn't kill them?

Eh, more or less accurate.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 02:47 PM

And like someone else said; at this temperature you're not even at risk of your eyelashes sticking together due to the frost.

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Anonymouswizard

2022-01-25, 02:50 PM

I don't know what you are all doing, living in places that are either too hot or too cold. It's a lovely five degrees here most days, six if it rains.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-25, 02:51 PM

I don't know what you are all doing, living in places that are either too hot or too cold. It's a lovely five degrees here most days, six if it rains.

Can I move there please?

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 02:54 PM

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Aren't dragons supposed to live up in the mountains where it's always snowy?

I don't know what you are all doing, living in places that are either too hot or too cold. It's a lovely five degrees here most days, six if it rains.
So, six every day?

Peelee

2022-01-25, 02:56 PM

Aren't dragons supposed to live up in the mountains where it's always snowy?
Much in the same way that all French grocery bags have one baguette sticking out the top at all times.

So, six every day?
Dangit, I was gonna say that!

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 02:57 PM

Aren't dragons supposed to live up in the mountains where it's always snowy?

So, six every day?

Well there are white dragons who live in cold and snowy places.

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 02:59 PM

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And don't forget the looming specter of frostbite! Where it's so cold it burns your skin! And if you get frostbite bad enough you get frostburn, which is permanent patches of discolouration in your skin from where the ice literally just... scarred you, by being too cold. Like if you leave meat in the freezer for too long.

And yes I am just kinda ignoring the ridiculous fact that it can get so cold that it hurts like fire hurts. Welcome to the ice desert; we have cold fire and hot drinks.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-25, 03:00 PM

So, six every day?

Please, this isn't Wales, the aerage temperature is 5.5.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 03:02 PM

I want a blizzard. :smile:

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 03:05 PM

Much in the same way that all French grocery bags have one baguette sticking out the top at all times.
So, yes, then?

I want a blizzard. :smile:
So did Microsoft.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-25, 03:06 PM

I would like a large cotton candy blizzard.

In my hands.

Right now. :smalltongue:

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 03:06 PM

So, yes, then?

So did Microsoft.

I didn't mean the company Blizzard and I can tell that you were joking. I mean a huge snowy beautiful blizzard.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-25, 03:09 PM

I just want a glorified milkshake of my favorite ice cream flavor (cotton candy.)

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 03:14 PM

I would like a large cotton candy blizzard.

In my hands.

Right now. :smalltongue:

I just want a glorified milkshake of my favorite ice cream flavor (cotton candy.)

There's a store up here that has ice cream I'll get some for you love!

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-25, 03:16 PM

There's a store up here that has ice cream I'll get some for you love!

Surely up there all cream is ice cream? :smallwink:

Form

2022-01-25, 03:21 PM

Surely up there all cream is ice cream? :smallwink:

Cream implies a certain softness of texture. In the North there is only Sharp Death.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 03:25 PM

I just want a glorified milkshake of my favorite ice cream flavor (cotton candy.)

Have you set up defenses to protect your yard from invading boys?

So, yes, then?
My ancestral home is the Alps. Is that better?

DataNinja

2022-01-25, 03:28 PM

It's times like these that make me glad that I don't live anywhere else in Canada. I'd die. I don't have that self-heating Canadian blood. :smalltongue:

Keltest

2022-01-25, 03:38 PM

I'm not in Canada, but I do make maple syrup. Is that close enough?

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 03:42 PM

My ancestral home is the Alps. Is that better?

Ahem...
"My ancestors smile upon me, Imperial, can you say the same?"

Mystic Muse

2022-01-25, 03:45 PM

Have you set up defenses to protect your yard from invading boys?

Who says I don't want to bring all the boys to the yard?

Peelee

2022-01-25, 04:02 PM

Ahem...
"My ancestors smile upon me, Imperial, can you say the same?"
Never player an Elder Scrolls game.

Who says I don't want to bring all the boys to the yard?
Have you dampened your defenses so as to allow boys entry into the yard unharmed?

DataNinja

2022-01-25, 04:05 PM

Who says I don't want to bring all the boys to the yard?

Oh, you don't want girl visitors. I see how it is. I guess I'll make sure to never visit if I'm in the area. :smallwink:

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 04:20 PM

Never player an Elder Scrolls game.

But you still got the reference, n'wah.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 04:21 PM

But you still got the reference, n'wah.

Well, technically, google got the reference.:smallamused:

Mystic Muse

2022-01-25, 04:54 PM

Have you dampened your defenses so as to allow boys entry into the yard unharmed?

Yes.

Oh, you don't want girl visitors. I see how it is. I guess I'll make sure to never visit if I'm in the area. :smallwink:

I hope you're never in the area, just because it's not a great area.

Fyraltari

2022-01-25, 05:10 PM

Well, technically, google got the reference.:smallamused:

Well, the knowledge you gain there will serve you a lifetime. Several, if you're talented.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 06:05 PM

I hope you're never in the area, just because it's not a great area.
That's a shame. I live in a great area but I also hope none of y'all are ever in the area because that'd be, like, really creepy.

Well, the knowledge you gain there will serve you a lifetime. Several, if you're talented.
I forgot the line already.

DataNinja

2022-01-25, 06:23 PM

I hope you're never in the area, just because it's not a great area.

...okay, fair. I don't actually know any of y'all's areas, because, A) internet, and B) as Peelee said, that'd be creepy.

Look, the joke sounded better in my head when it didn't need to be elaborated on, okay? :smalltongue:

Lord Raziere

2022-01-25, 08:58 PM

It's times like these that make me glad that I don't live anywhere else in Canada. I'd die. I don't have that self-heating Canadian blood. :smalltongue:

Its time like these I'm glad I live somewhere pleasant and temperate in the US. I've been to desert places on vacation, aside from the cool red sandstone rock formations they suck. instead of sharp biting air, its muggy heated air that feels thick enough to swim through.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 09:04 PM

Its time like these I'm glad I live somewhere pleasant and temperate in the US. I've been to desert places on vacation, aside from the cool red sandstone rock formations they suck. instead of sharp biting air, its muggy heated air that feels thick enough to swim through.

Deserts? Muggy? Last time I was in Arizona it felt like I was in an oven. The air was so dry, I thought my lungs were burning. It was hard to breathe. Give me humidity or give me death, I say!

Lord Raziere

2022-01-25, 09:10 PM

Deserts? Muggy? Last time I was in Arizona it felt like I was in an oven. The air was so dry, I thought my lungs were burning. It was hard to breathe. Give me humidity or give me death, I say!

Oh Right, I might be mixing it up with those time(s) I went to Florida distant in my memory, yeah the air was dry. still felt thick when I passed my hand through it. I just don't like that much heat in general.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-25, 09:37 PM

I drink three cups of hot coffee and I'm hyper. I'm drinking water to cool myself down.

Rater202

2022-01-25, 09:40 PM

Ahem...
"My ancestors smile upon me, Imperial, can you say the same?"

I'm neurodivergent—and therefore almost certainly would have been killed as a changeling as a child a few centuries ago in most of the cultures I'm descended from. I'm also quite rebellious by nature, am often described as "lazy" for not doing things I was never asked to do or never agreed to do or getting tired or sleeping, and I have to say, if your sole argument for being treated like an authority is "respect your elders, you ungrateful brat" when you don't respect others or... do anything to be grateful form, other than maybe the bare minimum expected of you, that you don't deserve respect or deference. (beyond basic stuff like "treating you like a human being.")

So I'm gonna say 'no.' My ancestors are not smiling at me. At least, statistically not most of them.

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 10:11 PM

I'm neurodivergent—and therefore almost certainly would have been killed as a changeling as a child a few centuries ago in most of the cultures I'm descended from. I'm also quite rebellious by nature, am often described as "lazy" for not doing things I was never asked to do or never agreed to do or getting tired or sleeping, and I have to say, if your sole argument for being treated like an authority is "respect your elders, you ungrateful brat" when you don't respect others or... do anything to be grateful form, other than maybe the bare minimum expected of you, that you don't deserve respect or deference. (beyond basic stuff like "treating you like a human being.")

So I'm gonna say 'no.' My ancestors are not smiling at me. At least, statistically not most of them.

Ah, but on the other hand; consider how easily and how well you eat in comparison. Your ancestors are looking at you casually eating a hamburger and it is blowing their ****ing mind.

Lord Raziere

2022-01-25, 10:22 PM

I'm neurodivergent—and therefore almost certainly would have been killed as a changeling as a child a few centuries ago in most of the cultures I'm descended from. I'm also quite rebellious by nature, am often described as "lazy" for not doing things I was never asked to do or never agreed to do or getting tired or sleeping, and I have to say, if your sole argument for being treated like an authority is "respect your elders, you ungrateful brat" when you don't respect others or... do anything to be grateful form, other than maybe the bare minimum expected of you, that you don't deserve respect or deference. (beyond basic stuff like "treating you like a human being.")

So I'm gonna say 'no.' My ancestors are not smiling at me. At least, statistically not most of them.

This, and I'm a redhead! some places wouldn't need my neurodivergent behavior to hate or kill me. add in my transgender and lesbian stuff and I think that eliminates any possible ancestors that could smile upon me.

@ Zodi: true! though that doesn't necessarily mean they'd be happy about it. I can imagine some of them being jealous of me living a more comfortable life than any of their kings. I know human nature, there is statistically some ancestors who'd be hyper "back in my day" about it on a level today's old people could never hope to reach.

2D8HP

2022-01-25, 10:27 PM

Except for how much of my income goes towards rent I absolutely LOVE where I live (both homes on either side of the bridge) with the edge going to the home closer to the Pacific, but the one closer to the bay is nice.

As for everyone here living near here: I’d be delighted and would buy a round of beverages for all y’all.

I have no idea if I count as “neurotypical”, but I did recently take a personality assessment test, it said that I was:
1) more compassionate than most
2) less polite than most
3) far lazier than most
4) less orderly than most
5) moderately enthusiastic
6) almost dead average in assertiveness
7) extremely neurotic compared to most
8) more open to experience than most
9) a lower interest in abstract ideas than most
10) far more volatile than most

The test (which I paid money for) promised that it would “suggest careers”, but it really didn’t.

HalfTangible

2022-01-25, 10:35 PM

Okay, so... it's gonna come down to one of two places (1 and 4), both of which are within walking distance of work. Just need to see the prices on Place 1 tomorrow.

Rater202

2022-01-25, 10:39 PM

Ah, but on the other hand; consider how easily and how well you eat in comparison. Your ancestors are looking at you casually eating a hamburger and it is blowing their ****ing mind.Considering how "back in my day when had to bah blah blah and we liked it, you spoiled kid" is an almost universal, statistically many of my ancestors are thinking that I don't deserve it because I haven't earned it.

...Although now I can't help but think of an Issue of Savage Avengers.

For context: After getting the rights for Conan the Barbarian comics back, Marvel(who has a history of publishing Conan comics, and stuff from the Hyborean age is consistently relevant in the modern-day in more magical books) celebrated by having Conan appear in the time-traveling adventure Avengers: No Way Home, the epilog of which revealed that Conan had been accidentally stranded in the modern day in the Savage Lands.

Savage Avengers depicts Conan exploring the modern world and teaming up with various anti-heroes and mystical characters to deal with Kulan Gath, an immortal, time-traveling sorcerer from Conan's time who is... Basically the biggest threat there is to the Earth at this point due to his ability to gain knowledge and mystical power by eating people.

One issue has Conan, somewhere in Mexico, in broad daylight, dispatching a monster born from a homeless person being forcibly merged with an avatar of Shuma-Gorath that was released into the streets for... Reasons?

A woman who had been doing her grocery shopping dropped her bags and ran when the monster appeared, and after killing it Conan calls out to her... And then when she doesn't come back he just grabs a jar of peanut butter out of the bag and starts eating it straight out of the jar while the narration describes how the common food of the modern age would be the envy of kings in his time.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 10:55 PM

Except for how much of my income goes towards rent I absolutely LOVE where I live (both homes on either side of the bridge) with the edge going to the home closer to the Pacific, but the one closer to the bay is nice.
I recommend no longer paying rent/mortgage. It's such a nice feeling to not having that too worry about and feel content that the bank don't own nothin' of yours.

Considering how "back in my day when had to bah blah blah and we liked it, you spoiled kid" is an almost universal, statistically many of my ancestors are thinking that I don't deserve it because I haven't earned it.

About as universal as "I want a better life for my kids/the next generation". Turns out some people are selfish and some aren't. Statistically, it's probably a wash.

Rater202

2022-01-25, 11:07 PM

About as universal as "I want a better life for my kids/the next generation". Turns out some people are selfish and some aren't. Statistically, it's probably a wash.

Probably, but it's my nature to be cynical... Or maybe my nurture. sometimes it can be hard to tell what's an inherent trait and what's a learned behavior.

Also, there's a distinct possibility that in at last some cases those people are one and the same: I mean, the reason why quality of life steadily improves with each generation is becuase enough members of the previous generation did their job and yet a loud minority of the previous generations seem... Not happy that they did their job.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people worked their assess off to provide better for their children or grandchildren... Only to become resentful later on for one reason or another.

LaZodiac

2022-01-25, 11:23 PM

This, and I'm a redhead! some places wouldn't need my neurodivergent behavior to hate or kill me. add in my transgender and lesbian stuff and I think that eliminates any possible ancestors that could smile upon me.

@ Zodi: true! though that doesn't necessarily mean they'd be happy about it. I can imagine some of them being jealous of me living a more comfortable life than any of their kings. I know human nature, there is statistically some ancestors who'd be hyper "back in my day" about it on a level today's old people could never hope to reach.

Considering how "back in my day when had to bah blah blah and we liked it, you spoiled kid" is an almost universal, statistically many of my ancestors are thinking that I don't deserve it because I haven't earned it.

...Although now I can't help but think of an Issue of Savage Avengers.

For context: After getting the rights for Conan the Barbarian comics back, Marvel(who has a history of publishing Conan comics, and stuff from the Hyborean age is consistently relevant in the modern-day in more magical books) celebrated by having Conan appear in the time-traveling adventure Avengers: No Way Home, the epilog of which revealed that Conan had been accidentally stranded in the modern day in the Savage Lands.

Savage Avengers depicts Conan exploring the modern world and teaming up with various anti-heroes and mystical characters to deal with Kulan Gath, an immortal, time-traveling sorcerer from Conan's time who is... Basically the biggest threat there is to the Earth at this point due to his ability to gain knowledge and mystical power by eating people.

One issue has Conan, somewhere in Mexico, in broad daylight, dispatching a monster born from a homeless person being forcibly merged with an avatar of Shuma-Gorath that was released into the streets for... Reasons?

A woman who had been doing her grocery shopping dropped her bags and ran when the monster appeared, and after killing it Conan calls out to her... And then when she doesn't come back he just grabs a jar of peanut butter out of the bag and starts eating it straight out of the jar while the narration describes how the common food of the modern age would be the envy of kings in his time.

I choose to believe death humbles you such that you realize we're all just humans in the end and we deserve every good thing that happens to us, so long as we don't actively hurt each other.

Or, if you still act like that even after the great equalization of your existence with everyone else, you just get erased.

Peelee

2022-01-25, 11:33 PM

HalfTangible

2022-01-25, 11:43 PM

They say greatness is planting a tree whose shade you will never sit in.

I doubt your ancestors are like that crotchety old man who thinks you're a terrible person because you got annoyed your Uber is taking too long. Especially when you get further back and find people who went without food more often than not, or lived through the plague, or were witness to the Winged Hussars' cavalry charge or whatever.

They'll probably also be a lot more tolerant than they were in life, given the very high likelihood that they're now related to people they once hated.

Lord Raziere

2022-01-25, 11:53 PM

Mystic Muse

2022-01-26, 12:07 AM

I recommend no longer paying rent/mortgage. It's such a nice feeling to not having that too worry about and feel content that the bank don't own nothin' of yours.

I plan on doing this once further in my career and have determined where I want to settle down long-term. Not forever necessarily, but long enough that investing in a house is worth it.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 12:42 AM

I wonder if this planet going to discover an actual UFO this year? That would be neat. :smile:

Astrella

2022-01-26, 12:57 AM

Cool. What did you do today? :smile:

Made a lot of progress on some medical forms I've been coding at my job and managed to clean up some other open issues I still had lying around.

DataNinja

2022-01-26, 12:58 AM

I wonder if this planet going to discover an actual UFO this year? That would be neat. :smile:

UFOs are discovered all the time. Anytime there's an object in the sky that you don't know what it is, it's a UFO. :smalltongue:

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 01:00 AM

Made a lot of progress on some medical forms I've been coding at my job and managed to clean up some other open issues I still had lying around.That's good. Do you enjoy your job? :smile:

UFOs are discovered all the time. Anytime there's an object in the sky that you don't know what it is, it's a UFO. :smalltongue:

I must have missed it.

Rater202

2022-01-26, 02:04 AM

I choose to believe death humbles you such that you realize we're all just humans in the end and we deserve every good thing that happens to us, so long as we don't actively hurt each other.

Or, if you still act like that even after the great equalization of your existence with everyone else, you just get erased.

I respect that option but I think at this point we're maybe getting a bit too close to a serious discussion of topics best left unspoken in this venue. Might be best to change the subject.So a little bit ago I mentioned that I'm a bit obsessed, lately, with the idea of making my own Ahms, and more recently that my brain, without consulting me, had decided that trying to figure out the optimal order to absorb a bunch of clones and embodiments of pure Id?

Yeah.

So this is Ahms.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/3/38/Amuzu.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/959?cb=20190222205826
Ahms is referred to at various points as an "artificial life form with an AI," an android, and a cyborg. It is unknown if its makeup is entirely mechanical in this form orif it includes organic matter, but it is known that it's capable of biological reproduction from the second form onward and that it is composed of both technology and dark magic.

Ahms was created by Sealas, big bad of the video game Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission, to compensate for his own lack of raw power. In its base form, Ahms is a living weapon of MAss destruction rather than a fighter. It shoot and thing go boom.

However, it's also able to upgrade itself based on observations of other entities in combat—increase it's raw power by analyzing the power of others, adapt to better avoid attacks by watching people fight, and increase the power and precision of it's energy blast by absorbing how others use energy.

It can also just flat out absorb people in order to gain their power and techniques... But the way it absorbs people is interesting.

When it absorbs its creator Sealas, they essentially fuse. The resulting creature looks like a fusion of Sealas's body and the form that Ahms was in at the time, slightly Ahms dominant, and after a brief moment of mindlessness Sealas's personality asserts itself s the dominant factor of th collective with Ahms merely contributing knowledge and power.

With every else though, it absorbs two individuals, then forcible fuses them before consuming them entirely, adding their skills and powers to itself(but without absorbing their personality traits) in a process that seems to be fatal to victims. Ahms then transforms into a state that appears as a combination of it's base form and the last to beings that it fused with, with each form being progressively more humanoidhttps://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/c/c3/2nd_Ahms.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/426?cb=20200628121900
After absorbing a version of Cell and a Version of Frieza.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/2/2c/3rd_Ahms.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/426?cb=20200628121916
After absorbing a version of Goku Black and a Version of Hit.

form completions's sake, here is Sealas.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/9/90/Sealas_render.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20201106144133

And their fused form

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/2/25/Fused_Sealas_render.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/763?cb=20200628122420

No, if I could make my own Ahms... I could just fuse with it, but based on the final result of Ahms fusion with Sealas seems to indicate that the form Ahms is in has a factor of the final fused form and I don't want to be a big chonky floaty ball. So, Ahms needs to absorb at least four individuals to ensure that my form fused with it is properly humanoid.

Since this is simply a fantasy that will never actually happen, I decided that the most ethical means of doing this would be approaching the timeline that the third arc of FighterZ's story mode takes place in.

FighterZ's story mode has the plot point of a number of mass clones of both heroes and enemies(who were revived with the dragon balls to take samples) wandering the world. The clones have neither intellect nor emotion and outside of battle they either stand around without emotion or shamble about like zombies but in combat they snap into perfect imitations of the fighters who they were clone from at the time the samples were taken(with the implication being that the samples were all taken very recently.) They are instinctively able to replicate even the most advanced techniques and powers, and while Frieza and Cell claim that their clones are inferior several other fighters note that their ki feels identical, their skills are perfectly matched, and their power levels are dead even with Goku and Tien, in particular, relishing the chance to fight their exact equal.

The exception are the Majin Buu clones, which all take the form of Kid Buu rather than Fat Buu, retain the original's personality(though, as the orignal was effectively mindless...) and while they retain Buu's ability to absorb other entities they just seem to break those entities down for raw power rather than replicating their powers and techniques. They're also more passive than the orignal Buu, mostly just wandering around and picking fights rather than blowing up the entire earth becuase it was there.

Since the clones are mindless, absorbing them is like eating a carrot in terms of ethics of consumption. (In fact, the clones were originally cultivated to sate Android 21's boundless hunger and compulsion to consume powerful people without hurting anyone before they were let loose, so they could be argued to literally be a form of produce.)

It'd be easy to just grab any four clones... But 17 discrete individuals were cloned, and in the third timeline, Android 21 expels the malevolent alter she develops as a result of her hunger and compulsions into an "Evil 21" which being literally an embodiment of pure evil and hunger needs to be destroyed regardless of her sentience for the good of the world.

So that's 18 individuals that be ethically consumed, for a total of 9 posisble transformations of increasingly humanoid nature before the final fusion

And I'm a bit of a completionist and often tempted by the appeal of power.

And, since the process of absorption treats each pair of absorbees like a fusion, the issue of compatibility comes into play: All fusions are more powerful than their components would be added together, but the compatibility of the two fusion components affects how much. To the point that, in the Tournament of power when it became clear that Patora fusion was tournament legal and Team Universe 7 was considering it, it was determined that the best bet would be Androids 17 and 18, twin siblings with similar body types, personalities, and fighting styles, over the much more powerful fighters who were also on the team.

So while it would be very tempting to pair people up two by two from strongest to weakest, or go by established fusions(particularly since Goku and Vegeta Fusions are consistently depicted as just completely overpowering even the strongest of unfused fighters whenever they show up) but... Obviously, things like personality and emotional relationships don't come into play with mindless clones, but would the biological relationship between Goku and Gohan and the influence that Goku had on Gohan's fighting style... Or hell, even the fact that Krillin or Yamcha have highly similar fighting styles due to training under most of the same mentors, make them better Fusion partners for a Goku clone than a Vegeta Clone, even though the Vegeta clones are far more powerful?

Or would Gohan be better off with a Trunks clone? The Trunks clones are based on Future Trunks, so their fighting styles are going to be similar due to future Trunks primarily being trained by his Timeline's Gohan, who despite differing circumstances uses mostly the same techniques as his main timeline counterpart. Furthermore, while not related by blood, they're both first-generation Saiyan human hybrids so their physiology is going to be more similar to each others than to their respective fathers or any of the earthlings.

It's not straightforward to figure out and my brain doesn't seem to understand that this is literally impossible to answer. Or that in practice it'd probably just be grabbing them in whatever order they're found in.

(I know for sure that the Majin Buu clone and Evil 21 are to be paired up and absorbed last. The reason 21 has an uncontrollable hunger and the reason why the Buu clones are flawed but more docile copies is the same: Doctor Gero understood Ki as a science but was ignorant of its spiritual and mystical aspects, so his genetic science just isn't able to cope with the biology of a Majin, who are basically living Chaos Magic. Since their flaws have the same origin but function in opposite ways, as if they each only have a portion of Magiin physiology, I figure combining the clone Buu with Evil 21 should negate the instability causing the uncontrollable hunger.

halfeye

2022-01-26, 04:24 AM

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 07:31 AM

Today I'm going to do the coffee challenge to see how much coffee I drink without getting hyper. :smile:

Keltest

2022-01-26, 10:40 AM

Today I'm going to do the coffee challenge to see how much coffee I drink without getting hyper. :smile:

Im going to guess 1.7 cups.

Also, genuinely keep track of your caffeine intake. Too much can make you sick or even send you to the hospital.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-26, 10:46 AM

Rater202

2022-01-26, 10:48 AM

You ever have one of those moments of "wait, why did they do that" when watching a movie? Or thinking about a movie?

In Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday(Spoilers, there were two more Fridays and then a reboot) after a joint effort by the FBI and the Military seemingly kill Jason in the prolog, they just... Hand his chunks off to an ordinary ME in some podunk down for an official autopsy before declaring him dead.

Not a special Federal Level examiner. And there's no FBI, military, or other government oversite of the examination. Or guards.

Which is... Terribly irresponsible. By tis point in time(we're nine movies into the franchise) it seems to be common knowledge that Jason is a tough son of a bitch with supernatural ability to regenerate his body, is possibly come kind of undead creature, and even when confirmed dead is about to revive himself.

And like, the FBI reacted accordingly. After confirming that Jason was back at his old stomping grounds they had an FBI agent disguised as a promiscuous teenager do the stupid promiscuous teenager thing at the camp and then run him into a trap where a two or three dozen soldiers sourounded him from all sides and riddled his body with gunfire from high caliber pistols, at least two M16s, and at least one combat shotgun. And then blew his ass up with an airstrike.

There is no overkill when it comes to Jason, and these people understood this.

And then... They dropped the ball. I don't think anyone could have predicted that Jason's disembodied heart to start beating which hypnotized the ME into eating it allowing Jason to take over the ME's body*, but with Jason's regenerative and self ressurection abilities it was incredibly stupid to not treat his remains with extreme care until they were confirmed to be absolutely certain of their total destruction. Honestly, since the ME seemed to just be confirming that Jason was dead rather than identifying his remains or studying them scientifically(and like, if they wanted to study his remains scientifically, maybe figure out how his ability to regenerate and reanimate works like they said they did in the next movie, you'd think he'd have been taken to a federal facility and not seemingly the closest ME office to the camp) so the autopsy seems unnecessary. Just... Cremate his ass and be done with it.

Or better yet, soak his chunks in 95.5% pure alcohol, then pack his chunks into a wooden crate full of thermite, poor the alcohol he was soaking in on top, seal the crate, place the crate into an industrial blast furnace, cover the crate in gasoline, then seal the furnace and turn it up to full blast and just... Leave it running at full capacity till either it runs out of fuel or breaks. Take no chances. There is no such thing as overkill here.

And yes, I know that if they did the smart thing then there woulnd't be a movie. That doesn't mean that their dropping the ball doesn't bug me.

*Well, I mean, this was the movie where it was established that Freddy and Jason existed in the same world, and I don't see Springwood getting away with the cover-ups they were doing without federal support, so it's certainly posisble that the Federal Government acknowledges the existence of ghosts, but still.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 10:51 AM

Im going to guess 1.7 cups.

Also, genuinely keep track of your caffeine intake. Too much can make you sick or even send you to the hospital.

I drink 3 cups of hot coffee today and yes, I'm aware of drinking too much coffee will make me sick or even send me to the hospital.

Peelee

2022-01-26, 10:54 AM

Im going to guess 1.7 cups.

Also, genuinely keep track of your caffeine intake. Too much can make you sick or even send you to the hospital.

Also, caffeine may be a legal substance, but substance dependencies are bad legal or not.

When I was doing the screening process for the federal agent job, they asked multiple questions about caffeine intake, both in the psychological testing and medical testing phases.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-26, 10:59 AM

I drink 3 cups of hot coffee today and yes, I'm aware of drinking too much coffee will make me sick or even send me to the hospital.

How frequently do you drink 3 cups of coffee in a day? Daily? Every other day? Weekly?

When I was doing the screening process for the federal agent job, they asked multiple questions about caffeine intake, both in the psychological testing and medical testing phases.
Makes sense for a lot of different reasons.

Form

2022-01-26, 11:01 AM

Probably, but it's my nature to be cynical... Or maybe my nurture. sometimes it can be hard to tell what's an inherent trait and what's a learned behavior.

Also, there's a distinct possibility that in at last some cases those people are one and the same: I mean, the reason why quality of life steadily improves with each generation is becuase enough members of the previous generation did their job and yet a loud minority of the previous generations seem... Not happy that they did their job.

Yeah, that's... not really true these days. I shouldn't get into the politics of it all though, so I won't. Let's just say this assertion is disputed.

UFOs are discovered all the time. Anytime there's an object in the sky that you don't know what it is, it's a UFO. :smalltongue:

See also UWPs (Unidentified Walking Person) and USPs (Unidentified Sleeping Person), though the latter is something you generally won't observe unless people around you take public naps. Or you routinely find yourself in the bedrooms of strangers at night...

Also, caffeine may be a legal substance, but substance dependencies are bad legal or not.

This reminds of that one scene in Stargate Universe. Dr. Rush has this caffeine addiction and when they all get stuck on that ship he can't get his coffee anymore, so he gets more and more cranky until he completely loses it and goes on an epic rant. That was a fine rant. I wish I could find a clip of it.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 11:08 AM

How frequently do you drink 3 cups of coffee in a day? Daily? Every other day? Weekly?

It varies depending on my mood and how much coffee I drink daily. I drink about 1-4 cups of coffee. :smile:

Peelee

2022-01-26, 11:10 AM

USPs (Unidentified Sleeping Person)

Apropos of nothing, but one of the best decisions I ever made was to get a UPS and hook my modem and router up to it. Gets used maybe once or twice a year, if that, but man does it ever save aggravation when it goes into effect.

DataNinja

2022-01-26, 11:21 AM

See also UWPs (Unidentified Walking Person) and USPs (Unidentified Sleeping Person), though the latter is something you generally won't observe unless people around you take public naps. Or you routinely find yourself in the bedrooms of strangers at night...
See also also UHF. Not because it has any relevance to this conversation, but because it's funny. :smalltongue:

Mystic Muse

2022-01-26, 11:22 AM

It varies depending on my mood and how much coffee I drink daily. I drink about 1-4 cups of coffee. :smile:

Try to cut that down to no more than 1-2 a day. 4 is the absolute upper limit of what an adult can healthily have, and pushing that limit is bad.

Talk to your doctor/dietician for more details if you don't believe me.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-26, 11:23 AM

I'm still trying to wean myself off caffeine addiction. Dropped myself down to only a couple of coffees a day, but I occasionally have run-in with teapots.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 11:23 AM

Try to cut that down to no more than 1-2 a day. 4 is the absolute upper limit of what an adult can healthily have, and pushing that limit is bad.

Talk to your doctor/dietician for more details if you don't believe me.

I believe you. :wink:

Peelee

2022-01-26, 11:28 AM

See also also UHF. Not because it has any relevance to this conversation, but because it's funny. :smalltongue:
UHF is a masterpiece and I will fight anyone who disagrees.

Talk to your doctor/dietician for more details if you don't believe me.
I always forget which one is legit between dietician and nutritionist, so every time I hear one of them I always google to check.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-26, 11:37 AM

UHF is a masterpiece and I will fight anyone who disagrees. I'll join you.

I always forget which one is legit between dietician and nutritionist, so every time I hear one of them I always google to check.

Yeah, Dietician is the one that sounds fake to me, but is thd legally protected title.

I can tell you to eat a diet consisting entirely of fertilizer and pesticide and call myself a nutritionist.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 11:37 AM

Speaking of coffee one of my YouTube subscribers who happen to be a very good supporter told me that he drinks 12 cups of coffee and it doesn't affect him at all. :eek:

Keltest

2022-01-26, 11:39 AM

Speaking of coffee one of my YouTube subscribers who happen to be a very good supporter told me that he drinks 12 cups of coffee and it doesn't affect him at all. :eek:

He either drinks decaffeinated coffee or he's lying then. Or he has a really, really poor scope of how often a normal person has to visit the hospital.

Form

2022-01-26, 11:48 AM

I'm still trying to wean myself off caffeine addiction. Dropped myself down to only a couple of coffees a day, but I occasionally have run-in with teapots.

Have you considered getting marooned on an intergalactic spaceship with no coffee in sight? It's a great* way to go cold turkey!

*By great I mean horrible.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 11:53 AM

He either drinks decaffeinated coffee or he's lying then. Or he has a really, really poor scope of how often a normal person has to visit the hospital.

Yes, he must be. There's no way in the world that he drinks that many cups of caffeinated coffee. Let alone 12.

LaZodiac

2022-01-26, 12:04 PM

Yes, he must be. There's no way in the world that he drinks that many cups of caffeinated coffee. Let alone 12.

"no way he drinks that many, let alone 12" is not grammatically correct. Both statements are the same thing. What you'd be looking for is "there's no way he drinks 5, let alone 12". That is the proper way this would be structured as a sentence.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-26, 12:08 PM

Have you considered getting marooned on an intergalactic spaceship with no coffee in sight? It's a great* way to go cold turkey!

*By great I mean horrible.

Sadly i booked with BBC studios, they're still having trouble differentiating it from interplanetary.

Bartmanhomer

2022-01-26, 12:08 PM

"no way he drinks that many, let alone 12" is not grammatically correct. Both statements are the same thing. What you'd be looking for is "there's no way he drinks 5, let alone 12". That is the proper way this would be structured as a sentence.

Ok. My bad then. Thank you for correcting my sentence. :smile:

Peelee

2022-01-26, 12:19 PM

Sadly i booked with BBC studios, they're still having trouble differentiating it from interplanetary.

Intergalactic? Planetary. Planetary, intergalactic.

Metastachydium

2022-01-26, 02:08 PM

I can tell you to eat a diet consisting entirely of fertilizer and pesticide

Hey, that doesn't sound half bad!

Lacco

2022-01-26, 02:23 PM

He either drinks decaffeinated coffee or he's lying then. Or he has a really, really poor scope of how often a normal person has to visit the hospital.

"Cups of coffee" is not an exact measure.

And my parents still do like 8 per day - and that's while retired. Don't ask how many did they drink when they were working (and still smoking).

The difference is, that we are not talking "8 strong cups of double espresso", more like "semi-turkish" where you pour hot water into a cup with a teaspoon of finely ground coffee.

Mystic Muse

2022-01-26, 02:30 PM

Hey, that doesn't sound half bad!

An equivaleng in your case would be salt and vinegar. :smalltongue:

Tvtyrant

2022-01-26, 02:36 PM

He either drinks decaffeinated coffee or he's lying then. Or he has a really, really poor scope of how often a normal person has to visit the hospital.

I drink that much coffee. I think you are underestimating how much drug resistance you can work your way up to, it's just a matter of needing a little more for the same effect every day.

Metastachydium

2022-01-26, 03:08 PM

An equivaleng in your case would be salt and vinegar. :smalltongue:

Note to self: steer clear of nutritionists. Some of them might be Evil.

Peelee

2022-01-27, 01:24 AM

Dunno how many of y'all play, but I damn near fell out of my chair when the second word got colored in.

Wordle 222 3/6

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LaZodiac

2022-01-27, 01:27 AM

Dunno how many of y'all play, but I damn near fell out of my chair when the second word got colored in.

Wordle 222 3/6

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Wordle is incredible and I've only lost twice so far but each time I did lose it felt devastating.

Peelee

2022-01-27, 01:40 AM

Haven't lost yet, but only been playing for two weeks so that's not much of an accomplishment.

LaZodiac

2022-01-27, 01:57 AM

My current score is 20/22, highest streak being 12. I've got one guess of 2, four of 3, five of 4, three of 5, and seven of 6.

I like to think this is decent. Wordle is super fun and non competitive though so it's fine.

Rater202

2022-01-27, 02:15 AM

...I have no idea what any of you are talking about.

Is this what it's like when I talk about my stuff? Is this what it's like on the outside?

So, what does an umbrella become when there's too many holes in it for it to keep you dry in the rain?

Not joking. That question got brought up in last month's issue of Venom and I've been thinking about it ever since.

Fyraltari

2022-01-27, 02:19 AM

So, what does an umbrella become when there's too many holes in it for it to keep you dry in the rain?

Worthless. No, seriously, there aren't any name for a dull knife,.a broken chair or a car that won't start. It's just a broken [X].

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-27, 03:09 AM

...I have no idea what any of you are talking about.

Is this what it's like when I talk about my stuff? Is this what it's like on the outside?

Wordle is, as it turns out, Wordstermind.

Got today's, but it did take all six guesses to work it out. So I'm 1/1 so far.

So, what does an umbrella become when there's too many holes in it for it to keep you dry in the rain?

Not joking. That question got brought up in last month's issue of Venom and I've been thinking about it ever since.

Improper. If that's your only umbrella it would be better to get wet than suffer the indignity.

DataNinja

2022-01-27, 03:13 AM

...I have no idea what any of you are talking about.

Is this what it's like when I talk about my stuff? Is this what it's like on the outside?

Genuinely? Yes. Your stuff is so dense and relies on so many references and specific details, it's as indecipherable to someone who doesn't already know what's going on as that wordle stuff is to you.

Rater202

2022-01-27, 03:36 AM

Genuinely? Yes. Your stuff is so dense and relies on so many references and specific details, it's as indecipherable to someone who doesn't already know what's going on as that wordle stuff is to you.
And yet...

Worthless. No, seriously, there aren't any name for a dull knife,.a broken chair or a car that won't start. It's just a broken [X].

Improper. If that's your only umbrella it would be better to get wet than suffer the indignity.

If I don't provide references and specific details, it leads to misunderstandings.

I apologize, but this is more of a philosophical question than a practical one. I have a recurring problem where I either give too much context or not enough. Still... I don't know how to fix that beyond trial and error. Sorry.

The context used an umbrella as a metaphor: Once something has been altered to the point where it no longer meets the basic definition of itself, it stops being that thing and starts being something else.

And my weird-ass brain decided that the question of "So... When an umbrella stops being an umbrella, what is it."

Fyraltari

2022-01-27, 03:40 AM

The context used an umbrella as a metaphor: Once something has been altered to the point where it no longer meets the basic definition of itself, it stops being that thing and starts being something else.

And my weird-ass brain decided that the question of "So... When an umbrella stops being an umbrella, what is it."

Metal sticks articulated together with fabric stretches between them, that is torn or bent.

There's no name for that, because nobody cares about such an object.

Edit: To be clear, the object "this umbrella" belongs to the obtological category "umbrella" which itself belongs inside "tool" which itself belongs inside "things". By being broken, the object leaves the first two categories to end up in the category "broken umbrella" within "things".

Form

2022-01-27, 04:07 AM

Dunno how many of y'all play, but I damn near fell out of my chair when the second word got colored in.

Wordle 222 3/6

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Oh no, the Wordle. It's here too! Seems like this has infested much of the internet now.

Weary and mound seem like good standard start guesses every time. Ten different letters, eight of which are vowels, that can be checked right away. Am I supposed to play Wordle in hard mode or normal mode?

...I have no idea what any of you are talking about.

Is this what it's like when I talk about my stuff? Is this what it's like on the outside?

Weeeeeeeellllll, a little, yes, only now imagine there's also a lengthy paragraph or two about Wordle tactics too. I'm not saying that's bad, because this is the random banter thread after all and you're clearly not the only one who's into all the DC/Marvel superhero/comics stuff, but for those not familiar with those materials (such as yours truly) those posts tend to be difficult to follow.

Anonymouswizard

2022-01-27, 04:29 AM

If I don't provide references and specific details, it leads to misunderstandings.

I apologize, but this is more of a philosophical question than a practical one. I have a recurring problem where I either give too much context or not enough. Still... I don't know how to fix that beyond trial and error. Sorry.

The context used an umbrella as a metaphor: Once something has been altered to the point where it no longer meets the basic definition of itself, it stops being that thing and starts being something else.

And my weird-ass brain decided that the question of "So... When an umbrella stops being an umbrella, what is it."

The term is 'broken umbrella', or from another perspective 'rubbish', 'scrap', or 'reusable materisls'. Nothing big or fancy, either it still falls under the first category, or it falls into the other where the term depends on your intent.

But that had already been covered, so I thought I'd take it in another direction. Plus I'd rather not have to suffer another three pages of dense Marvel discussion for a little while.

DataNinja

2022-01-27, 04:34 AM

If I don't provide references and specific details, it leads to misunderstandings.
Yes, and that's the conundrum that you have. You're referencing a body of work that is so convoluted and labyrinthine that the amount of detail needed to understand goes beyond what a casual observer is going to be willing to digest.

Like, being honest, whenever I see one of those posts? I basically go "ah, a big list of names that I have neither context for nor interest in, and details that require ever increasing explanations to give context for." It's just not something that I can really stick in my head in one sitting.

Asking genuinely: How long did it take you to gather all of that Marvel information? Because... that's a representation of the time needed to really understand all of what you're talking about, there's just so much information.

Like, I could go on for aaaaaages about the Halo universe (as Zodi can well attest), but unless you were also invested or had a lot of time put in, I guarantee that no matter how simply I put it, putting enough information in to provide context to what I want to rant about will make most peoples' eyes just glaaaaaze over.

So, being frank, it's not likely to be something you're ever going to be able to get anyone interested in at all unless they're already invested in Marvel to some degree.

Metastachydium

2022-01-27, 04:43 AM

there aren't any name for a dull knife

Au contraire! If it is dull by design, chances are high it will be called a table knife, butter knife or something to that effect.

or a car that won't start

Huh. In my mother tongue, there is a word for those. It'd translate to something like carwreck (but that one's got a different meaning in English).