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Mystic Muse

2022-03-16, 10:48 AM

Rules for Random Banter

1. Spam. For RB, one-word posts are generally considered spam. Likewise, posts that are nothing but *actions like this* are also be considered spam. Remember that the quality of the post's content is much better than the speed of your response.

2. This isn't the Play by Post or Town forum, nor is it the Silly Message Board Games or Structured Games forum. Please avoid continuous roleplay or mock battles and fights such as the "competition for control of the universe".

3. If it's already a thread, don't bring it to RB. RB has such a huge range of subject matter even restricted to the little snippets that probably don't warrant their thread, it doesn't need legitimate thread topics cluttering it up as well. The exception to this is to bring something off-topic from one thread, but on-topic for RB and the subject doesn't warrant a thread of its own.

4. Don't advertise other threads in RB. Just because these new threads move at speeds more appropriate to a message board than an IM session doesn't mean you need to come over to RB and browbeat people into posting in your latest brainchild.

5. Please don't post single-line posts alerting us to your current status -- as in "I'm back." This is Random Banter, not "How to stalk Random GitP forum members."

6. Don't poke, kick or bump the thread. It will move at whatever pace it wants to. Also, please refrain from Captain Obvious comments akin to "My, the thread is fast today."

7. Random Banter can only be as good, or as entertaining, as you make it. Demands to be entertained will fall on deaf ears unless you can add something more meaningful to the conversation.

8. As this is a public forum, where the current topic is nicely recorded for you, and not a conversation where you could have missed the beginning, please refrain from asking something to the effect of "What's the topic?". Please take the time to read up a bit first.

9. Thread Creator must include the words "Random" and "Banter" as well as the thread #. Try to be concise as well.

10. Every post should contain two visible, legible complete sentences, Subject and Predicate. C'mon, make your old English teachers proud.

11. Remember, Random Banter is not your IM client. If you want to have a back and forth discussion with just one person, look in their contact information for IM details.

12. Whenever a new thread is created, all "first post", "first-page", and all posts of that nature will be deleted by the administrators. Please avoid doing this, as it is frustrating for them to deal with one-lined posts like this.

13. Double-posting is not your friend. We have edit buttons for a reason.

14. Once you have made a Random Banter thread, you must wait for 12 threads before making another one.

15. If you can avoid dibs calling on making the next thread, that will avoid people needing to wait if the thread hits 50 pages while the dibs-caller is asleep.

Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)
Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
var Lord_Magtok = Random(Banter*62) + Surrogate (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801)
Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Eldpollard's RB #77 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
Random Banter #79 In Loving Memory of Hexa_Regina (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40909)
Zeratul's random banter #80 of throwing puppies off bridges (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41778)
Vespe's Random Banter #81 of singing dolphins and mostly harmless planets. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43254)
CSK's Giant in the Playground Forums Addicted Anonymous, Random Banter #82 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44919)
Iames's Ramblingly Erratic Belldandy-Charged Random Banter #83 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47592)
Serpentine's Scintillating Sensually and Sinuously Seductive Stochastic Satire #84 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49048)
Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them... (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50658)
Moon Called's Random Banter #86 of Sexy Anime Boys and Fangirl Squeals (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51825)
Lilly's Lovely Random Banter #87 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52783)
FdL's Fuzzbox-Fueled Random Banter #88 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612)
SweetRein's Sugary Restrained Random Banter #89 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59668)
Midnight's Mutant Motorcycle Madness Random Banter #90 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62430)
Em's Extremely Extraordinarily Epic Random Banter #91 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65645)
Dragonrider's Random Banter in Conjunction with the Weighted Cube #92 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67629)
Bushranger's Bodaciously Buffed Random Banter-y Rooster #93 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69425)
Haruki's Historically Hilarious Honey-covered Random Banter #94 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71161)
North's Maple Syrup Flavored Non-Alliterative Random Banter #95 Eh? (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73464)
Wadledo's Weirdly Warbling Watercress Watching Washing Machine Only Random Banter #96 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75946)
SMEE's Random Banter #97 of gender bending and closet bursting (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78694)
Raiser's Rambunctiously Rambling Random Banter #98 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626)
Dr. Bath's Random Banter, dripping with daring deeds of dastardly deipnosophists #99 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84068)
VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84914)
Jack Squat's Justlessly Juxtaposed Random Banter #101 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87577)
Dallas-Dakota's Dundering Dandelion's Devilish Damsel's Distress Random Banter #102 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4790602#post4790602)
Destro Yersul's Dangerously Distracting and Doubtlessly Disturbing Random Banter #103 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4903962#post4903962)
Aziraphales Actually Alliterative and Awesomely Affluent Random Banter #104 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92718)
Cristo's Consistently Confusing and Constantly Casual Random Banter #105 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94491)
Dish's Delightfully Deranged and Deliciously Deliquent Random Banter # 106 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905)
Slayer's Seemingly Sweet and Socially Silly Random Banter # 107 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97703)
Zero's ambrosial and aberrantly adventitious, abstemiously erudite Random Banter #108 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99100)
Coplantor's Completely Creative Cautious and Contemplative Random Banter #109 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100414)
Rutskarn's Roly-Poly Rebellious and Rejected Random Banter #110 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101156)
TwoBitWriter's Tubular Tracts of Thought-Talking Random Banter #111 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5600540#post5600540)
Phase's Phully Phormed, Phalangeal, and Phantasmagorical Random Banter #112 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101988)
Wolfbane's Wonderfully Wacky and Wildly Wandom Random Banter #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102865)
The Kiwi's Kinkily Knotted and Kookily Kickass Random Banter #114 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103674)
Jude's Judgmental Jugular Jab and Jibber Jabbery Random Banter #115 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104480)
The Throne of Thufir's Thoroughly Theoretical and Therapeutic Random Banter #116 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105584)
Random Banter #117 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106698)
Dragonprime's Dynamically Dangerous Dextrous and Destructive Random Banter #118 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107882)
Farmer Felix's Fantastic FRandom FBanter #119 (may contain traces of fnuts) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109007)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part one) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110963&page=50)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part two) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113197)
Mrmud's Mixed-Up and Minimally Mechanized Random Banter #121 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114623)
Dogmantra's Dastardly, Despotic and Dangerous Random Banter #122 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116660)
Alteran's Amazingly Anachronistic, Altruistic, and Antagonistic Random Banter #123 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118380)
Admiral Euphoria's Random Banter Thread of Delusional Grandeur #124 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6614894)
Fred's Flying Fishy, Fighting, Fiery, Fantastic Face Off Random Banter #125 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121385)
Cyrano’s Non-Alliterative Inaugurational Random Banter #126 To Usher In The Future (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122977)
Thanatos's Tharmturges Present: Tropical, Tipsy, and Typically Random Banter #127
(https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123816)loopy's Legendary and Long-Awaited Lollipop Fuelled Random Banter #128 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124786)
Shadow's Shady Shop of Sharks, Shingles, Shammies, Shiny and Random Banter #129 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125667)
KataraAltinaII's Premature Not So Short & To-The-Point Random Banter #130 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126557)
Supagoof's Supa-Sensational Silly Symphonies Set Sizzingly On Fire Random Banter #131 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128570)
Pyrian's Pyrotechnic Pyre of Pyrrhic Pyros with Pyrotic Pythics Random Banter #132! (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130459)
Perenelle's Pleasantly Playful and Passionately Peculiar Random Banter #133 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131814)
Rpgsr4me's Ravenous, Roaring, Raging Rampage of Random Banter #134 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7373844#post7373844)
Il'deav Ilah'naie's Indiscreet Intimacies on Indigo Iceboats Random Banter #135 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134438)
Recaiden's Resplendent and Rotating Realistic Random Banter #136 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136879)
Jibar's Random Banter #137: Return of the Cat-muffin (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138879)
Edge's Effluence of Extravagant and Effulgent Random Banter #138 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7876065)
Zeb The Troll's Zecond Go At Ze Random Banter #139 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061505&postcount=1)
Curly's Rambunctious and Erudite Random Banter #140 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148462)
Deth Muncher's Destructive and Meandering Random Banter #141 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150904)
A Thread in Which Banter Most Random is Expulsed Into Existence, By Ravens_cry #142 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8722755)
Several Silly Sealions Stuffed Seaweed Southward Swiftly (Or, Random Banter #143) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159998)
The thread that changed name one last time, with style. (Random Banter #144) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161407)
Banjo’s Bodacious & Boosted Bumper Bulletproof Box of Banter Most Random #145 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162819)
Masa's Massively Masterful Message Medium - Random Banter #146 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164224)
KuReshtin's Vociferously Ruminating Harbinger of Random Banter - #147 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166664)
Archonic's Archaic Acronymical Antidisestablishmentarianism Random Banter - #148 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169890)
Skeppio's Splendidly Strange & Superbly Scintillating Random Banter - #149 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173056)
Teddy's Turbulent and Topicless Random Banter #150 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175338)
Fifty-Eyed Fred's Ferociously Fanatical and Fabulously Fascinating Random Banter #151 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178205)
Rae's Really Rascally and Ridiculously Rowdy Random Banter #152 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181296)
Haruki's Hot n' Holy Random Banter #153 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10176275#post10176275)
MoonCat's Magnificently Mythopoeic Random Banter #154 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187576)
Eadin's Exchange of Extraterrestrial Excuses AKA Random Banter #155 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190034)
Happy HalfTangible's Horrific Hail of Random Banter #156 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10629167#post10629167)
AtlanteanTroll's Atrocious and Terrific Arcade of Terror - RB #157 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196302)
LaLa’s Laughably Silly Random Banter Thread – RB #158 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198767)
Zaydos's Zany Zooetic Random Banter - RB #159 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200208)
Blue's Blessed and Blissful Random Banter - RB #160 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201653)
Absolmorph's Azoic Arete of Adventitious and Aimless Random Banter - RB 161 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202546)
Gwyn's Gloriously Green Garrumphing Garter of Garrulous Gabble! Random Banter #162 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203954)
Eruantion's Euphoric, Elephant-filled Elevated Epoch of Eurhythmic Random Banter #163 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205487)
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Rater202

2022-03-16, 11:00 AM

Random pop culture trivia: May Parker, Spider-Man's famed Aunt May, briefly worked as Howard the Duck's secretary.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-16, 11:01 AM

Random pop culture trivia: May Parker, Spider-Man's famed Aunt May, briefly worked as Howard the Duck's secretary.

Cool. I didn't know that. :smile:

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 11:08 AM

*Breaks staff*

The thread is dead! Long live the thread!

LaZodiac

2022-03-16, 11:17 AM

Random pop culture trivia: May Parker, Spider-Man's famed Aunt May, briefly worked as Howard the Duck's secretary.

Ah, that'd explain why she was able to deal with the Chameleon so effectively. She's dealt with ****ing weirdos before.

I think that by "spirit" you mean structure or shape? Because a ship doesn't have a "spirit".

Yeah what Keltest says below. I do not mean the structure or shape, because that is a material aspect. It is the spirit of the matter. The Argo will always be the Argo, even as they replace pieces of it over the years. Because it's The Argo.

I assume by spirit Zodi means something like "the significance we as people put to the idea of the thing rather than any intrinsic property of the physical materials."

Yeah, that.

Keltest

2022-03-16, 11:26 AM

Ahhh, new thread smell.

Anyway, im with Zodi. The building blocks of a thing aren't what makes it that thing.

Rater202

2022-03-16, 11:31 AM

Ah, that'd explain why she was able to deal with the Chameleon so effectively. She's dealt with ****ing weirdos before.

Actually, that happened before May worked for Howard.

When May doesn't have health issues, like she did in Peter's earlier years, she's just kind of a badass.

Tvtyrant

2022-03-16, 11:47 AM

Ahhh, new thread smell.

Anyway, im with Zodi. The building blocks of a thing aren't what makes it that thing.

In agreement here. Physically people aren't even objects, they are processes. Everything that makes something alive is a series of unbalanced chemical equations, including thinking.

If you change the process you change the person, which is why anti-depressants and dieting work. A chemical that changed all the processes that make a person would make a different person more then changing the parts (which are interchangeable at the molecular level.)

Rater202

2022-03-16, 12:05 PM

In agreement here. Physically people aren't even objects, they are processes. Everything that makes something alive is a series of unbalanced chemical equations, including thinking.

If you change the process you change the person, which is why anti-depressants and dieting work. A chemical that changed all the processes that make a person would make a different person more then changing the parts (which are interchangeable at the molecular level.)You're assuming that the Serum changes everything instead of just what needs to be repaired or altered. If it changed everything than everyone who ever got the serum would look and act exactly the same.

Keltest

2022-03-16, 12:10 PM

You're assuming that the Serum changes everything instead of just what needs to be repaired or altered. If it changed everything than everyone who ever got the serum would look and act exactly the same.

DNA isnt like legos either. You cant just magically take one bit out, put in the part you want, then have it come out how you intend. Its all one unit. You change the DNA, you change everything. Every cell, everything controlled by DNA.

Plenty of these changes wont be obvious, or indeed meaningful. But they will be there.

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 12:17 PM

Yeah what Keltest says below. I do not mean the structure or shape, because that is a material aspect. It is the spirit of the matter.
I don't understand what you mean by "spirit".

The Argo will always be the Argo, even as they replace pieces of it over the years. Because it's The Argo.
Yeah, because you're preserving the structure of the assemblage of things we call The Argo. Also, why are talking about Jason's ship, now?

I assume by spirit Zodi means something like "the significance we as people put to the idea of the thing rather than any intrinsic property of the physical materials."

So, identity by consensus, then? If so we could end up with situations where someone convinces a lot of people that this other ship over there is actually Theseus's ship, even though Theseus never set foot on it, and if enough people believes him, it'd become "Theseus's ship"? That seems wrong.

Keltest

2022-03-16, 12:26 PM

I mean, if their belief is based on the idea that it is a ship that Theseus used then sure, theyre "wrong", but if its identified as the Ship of Theseus by people, then thats what it is, even if the basis for that identification is wildly misunderstood.

What's in a name, etcetera etcetera. The idea of the ship as a singular unit doesnt have any basis in physics or chemistry or anything, its purely a construct of the human mind. If the ship gets some salt or bird poop on it, that salt or poop isnt part of the ship because we said it isnt, whereas the paint is part of the ship because we said it is.

If it sounds arbitrary, thats because it kind of is. It's based on what we want to think of it as, not some intrinsic property of it that will exist regardless of us.

Heck, heres another example: Sue the dinosaur. Her identity as "Sue" is not something she had while alive, it was given to her strictly by people. The living entity that was the dinosaur no longer exists. But we still call her Sue, because thats what we think of her as.

Rater202

2022-03-16, 12:30 PM

DNA isnt like legos either. You cant just magically take one bit out, put in the part you want, then have it come out how you intend. Its all one unit....you seem to have forgotten that we're talking about a work of comic book science that may in fact be literal magic.

The only effect the serum has on the mind, the memories, the emotions, the experiences, the decisions... The part of the person that is you is that it's running on better hardware. You think better, process information better, and form memories better going foreward but everything you were, psychologically and emotionally, before taking the serum is preserved. If anything, you'll be more yourself going forward because the improved software means that your mind won't degrade any further than it already has.

And thus. The processes related to thought, memory, emotion, and so on... are all either unchanged, or changed in ways that do not sacrifice the previous self.

Keltest

2022-03-16, 12:45 PM

Rater, I don't think you have a very firm grasp of the implications of upgrading a brain to run on "better hardware." Making somebody smarter, think faster, have better reflexes, these are all fundamental parts of your being and personality. You can't just "upgrade " someone with no changes like that.

Tvtyrant

2022-03-16, 12:45 PM

You're assuming that the Serum changes everything instead of just what needs to be repaired or altered. If it changed everything than everyone who ever got the serum would look and act exactly the same.

Not even remotely. When you go on a run your personality gets happier, stress effects you less. When you don't eat you get snappish and hangry. These things are true for every life form, but we don't pretend that the change in chemical function makes us all identical.

If you and I did steroids together we would have different outcomes, they would still be fundamentally altering who we are. As long as it leaves the memories alone there is going to be variation in the output because the experience is the only essential thing to a person.

Life is essentially inessential. The two most stable components are memory and DNA, both of which get modified, corrupted and lost over time.

DataNinja

2022-03-16, 12:49 PM

I don't know about any of you, but now I just want to play with some Lego. :smalltongue:

...I might still have a set hiding around here somewhere.

Keltest

2022-03-16, 12:53 PM

I don't know about any of you, but now I just want to play with some Lego. :smalltongue:

...I might still have a set hiding around here somewhere.

I have a collection of mini figure parts by my computer I build and change. Usually to be my latest d&d or WoW character.

Mystic Muse

2022-03-16, 12:53 PM

I don't know about any of you, but now I just want to play with some Lego. :smalltongue:

...I might still have a set hiding around here somewhere.

I have a super star destroyer that needs reconstructing if you have a weekend to burn.

Rater202

2022-03-16, 12:56 PM

The two most stable components are memory and DNA, both of which get modified, corrupted and lost over time.And memory, the part that's important to your fundamental identity, is permenantly preserved from the moment you take the serum going forward. Unless you suffer critical brain damage or someone deliberately tampers with your memory, you'll never forget anything ever again and any memories you from from getting the serum onward will be accurate. (memories you already have won't degrade any more than they already have.)

Were talking about something from a comic book. The comic book is pretty clear that Steve is fundamentally the same person with or without the Serum as is everyone who got the serum or a stable attempt at recreating the serum.

You can't argue with the source material and say that it's wrong.

DataNinja

2022-03-16, 12:59 PM

I have a super star destroyer that needs reconstructing if you have a weekend to burn.

Oof. My condolences. Lego is just never as fun to reconstruct as it is to build the first time.

LaZodiac

2022-03-16, 01:12 PM

I don't understand what you mean by "spirit".

Yeah, because you're preserving the structure of the assemblage of things we call The Argo. Also, why are talking about Jason's ship, now?

So, identity by consensus, then? If so we could end up with situations where someone convinces a lot of people that this other ship over there is actually Theseus's ship, even though Theseus never set foot on it, and if enough people believes him, it'd become "Theseus's ship"? That seems wrong.

In Japan there is the Kinkaku-Ji, the Temple of the Golden Pavilion. It has stood for centuries. It has also been burned down around two to three times. Even though it's been rebuilt, it is still the Kinkaku-Ji, because it is still the building.

I'll admit I searched for "what is the name of Theseus' ship" and got given the name Argo so that's my bad.

Identity by consensus is part of it, yeah. If you did do that, that'd be pretty manipulative... but then, look at all the people who claim to have the bones of such and such saint. This is something humanity does a lot, and it isn't necessarily wrong to do it. Charlatan's do it all the time, but so do people who are doing it for perfectly reasonable reasons (like with the Kinkaku-Ji).

So yeah, I think it's the intent of the people.

Peelee

2022-03-16, 01:27 PM

If you feel like doing it, go ahead.
I had the inclination but not the time. The tragedy of the commons work. Well, one of the tragedies, at least.

I have a super star destroyer that needs reconstructing if you have a weekend to burn.
SUPER STAR DESTROYER, YA SAY?

Oof. My condolences. Lego is just never as fun to reconstruct as it is to build the first time.
Smash completely and start from scratch?

Also, why are talking about Jason's ship, now?
Because Jason had the good grace to name his ship.

halfeye

2022-03-16, 01:28 PM

DNA isnt like legos either. You cant just magically take one bit out, put in the part you want, then have it come out how you intend. Its all one unit. You change the DNA, you change everything. Every cell, everything controlled by DNA.

It's worse than that, you have to make the same changes to the DNA in every cell. It's all spaghetti coded too, which makes it horrible to work out what effect any one change has.

Form

2022-03-16, 01:32 PM

It's worse than that, you have to make the same changes to the DNA in every cell. It's all spaghetti coded too, which makes it horrible to work out what effect any one change has.

*groan* As a software developer I know what this is like.

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 01:47 PM

In Japan there is the Kinkaku-Ji, the Temple of the Golden Pavilion. It has stood for centuries. It has also been burned down around two to three times. Even though it's been rebuilt, it is still the Kinkaku-Ji, because it is still the building.
And do you think that the fact they rebuilt it exactly like it was is not the important part?
I'm still not clear what you mean by the thing's spirit.

Is it a religion thing?

I'll admit I searched for "what is the name of Theseus' ship" and got given the name Argo so that's my bad.

Identity by consensus is part of it, yeah. If you did do that, that'd be pretty manipulative... but then, look at all the people who claim to have the bones of such and such saint. This is something humanity does a lot, and it isn't necessarily wrong to do it.
Except that if someone in 2, 000 gets my femur and claims it was Albert Einstein's, no matter how many people believe it and call it "Einstein's femur", that bone was never inside Einstein's body, which is what these people are saying by calling it that. There are just a lot of people who are wrong. And if it is possible for the consensus to be wrong about the identity of a thing, then identity is not decided by consensus.

Because Jason had the good grace to name his ship.
Technically, the shipwright, Argo, named it.

Real creative fella, that Argo.

Murk

2022-03-16, 01:48 PM

When you go on a run your personality gets happier, stress effects you less.

I'm so jealous of people who feel better after (or during) a run, rather than worse.

Tvtyrant

2022-03-16, 01:51 PM

I'm so jealous of people who feel better after (or during) a run, rather than worse.

It takes a while. I usually find it takes three weeks before I start getting a real high off any form of exercise, and if you go without for a month you lose it. Dieting is the same thing, I have to be devote for no gain for a month before it becomes easier and enjoyable.

And then I get hit by a car again.

Form

2022-03-16, 02:03 PM

And do you think that the fact they rebuilt it exactly like it was is not the important part?
I'm still not clear what you mean by the thing's spirit.

Is it a religion thing?

I'm not familiar with this particular building, but I'm guessing it represent a Thing. The building is not the Thing, but just represents the Thing. A Thing being an important concept, collection of culture/religious values, an ideal or something else that's important but is not a physical object itself. That the rebuilt Kinkaku-Ji looks exactly the same as the old one and is presumably built in the exact same place helps connect the new Kinkaku-Ji to what the old Kinkaku-Ji represents, but is not necessary. In principle, you could build an entirely different structure in a completely different place and have that be the Kinkaku-Ji just as long as it represents the same Thing. The meaning people assign to the Kinkaku-Ji makes it the Kinkaku-Ji, not the physical structure.

But building in the same place and in the same shape helps a lot to make that connection.

That's my take on it, anyway.

Peelee

2022-03-16, 02:04 PM

Technically, the shipwright, Argo, named it.

Real creative fella, that Argo.

Because Jason had the good sense to get a named ship. :smalltongue:

Rater202

2022-03-16, 02:10 PM

For what it's worth, whenever I do any kind of exercise that's more than a few minutes of light cardio I feel like crap. If I feel good it's because I'm happy that I was physically able to do something so physically intense or because I think/hope it's worth it.

A nice brisk walk feels good, but anything more than that...

...I miss being able to walk on a treadmill at moderate speed for half an hour and then hurt less than when I started.

tyckspoon

2022-03-16, 02:14 PM

Because Jason had the good sense to get a named ship. :smalltongue:

Of course he did, you wouldn't take a non-name-level ship on high level adventures! It wouldn't have enough HD to survive in higher encounter level oceans.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-16, 02:15 PM

I have a very serious question to ask:

Do you think it fair to accuse a celebrity of the crimes that person allegedly committed which happened years ago and come forward to make a documentary to expose the celebrity when that celebrity has been deceased more than a decade ago? I just want to hear your opinion.

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 02:23 PM

Tvtyrant

2022-03-16, 02:23 PM

Keltest

2022-03-16, 02:25 PM

Except that if someone in 2, 000 gets my femur and claims it was Albert Einstein's, no matter how many people believe it and call it "Einstein's femur", that bone was never inside Einstein's body, which is what these people are saying by calling it that. There are just a lot of people who are wrong. And if it is possible for the consensus to be wrong about the identity of a thing, then identity is not decided by consensus.

Sure, but they'll be able to identify it as a specific femur that people know and collectively recognize by that name. The reasoning for naming it that specific name are immaterial.

2D8HP

2022-03-16, 02:25 PM

Last week television cameras were trained on someone saying “The people of San Francisco deserve…” and in the background was a drip from a leak from the ceiling to the floor of a courtroom entrance way. Because of how much water needed to be shut off to so many areas of the building we just set up tarps and buckets above the ceiling and I had to come in Saturday to replace the pipe.

Still sore.

Monday on leaving my wife at dark o’clock in the morning she (very briefly) kissed me on the lips for the first time in about 19 years, I then went to the hospital to visit my beloved roommate and watched her walk (with a walker) for the first time since the large tumor in her torso was removed days earlier. She cried while walking (happy tears she said).

While I was at the hospital she fell asleep for about five minutes and snored a bit, then she woke and told me that she dreamt of walking to her dog (which now lives with her ex-boyfriend of many years) that I was holding.

“It was so vivid” she said of her dream.

Today she’ll be transferred from the hospital where she had the surgery to a new one with a rehabilitation clinic where they’ll work on her too numb knee for a couple of weeks until she may walk up the stairs to our home.

I’ll be leaving work early and delivering some medicine that’s in our refrigerator to her today.

Even though I saw her only a couple of days ago I miss her, but I also fear seeing her as it’s saddening to see her suffer.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-16, 02:29 PM

I mean, if you've got evidence to back your claims up, yes.

Would it be fair if they weren't a celebrity? I don't buy the argument that morality changes based on fame.

I've been having strong opinions about a celebrity who's no longer alive. The celebrity is Michael Jackson. There was this documentary called (Leaving Neverland) where these victims accuse Michael of being a C.P. My problem about this whole situation is that they should have come forward years ago when Michael was alive and he's been dead for more than a decade now.

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 02:29 PM

Sure, but they'll be able to identify it as a specific femur that people know and collectively recognize by that name. The reasoning for naming it that specific name are immaterial.
And if the femur is lost and then someone shows up with another femur and everybody believes that it is indeed Einstein's femur (which, may I remind you, it's not, it's mine), then that bone suddenly becomes the one that was in the museum two months prior?

Rater202

2022-03-16, 02:32 PM

2D8, would it be rude if I said that your life from what you've shared sounds like a Telenovela or maybe a tragic romance novel?

Keltest

2022-03-16, 02:42 PM

And if the femur is lost and then someone shows up with another femur and everybody believes that it is indeed Einstein's femur (which, may I remind you, it's not, it's mine), then that bone suddenly becomes the one that was in the museum two months prior?

We generally have a pretty good way to tell them apart, so I'd like to think they apply some rigor to the process.

But sure, if they decide to do that. We do it with buildings all the time. Paintings and art too.

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 02:54 PM

We generally have a pretty good way to tell them apart, so I'd like to think they apply some rigor to the process.

But sure, if they decide to do that. We do it with buildings all the time. Paintings and art too.

This is boderline solipsistic. People thinking that an object is the same than another object does not make it so. Objects have an objective reality.

If these people, believing the femur to be Einstein extracted his genetic material from it (dunno if you can do that with 2, 000 year old bones, if not assume future-science) to get some idea of what Albert Einstein was likew they'd be wrong. Because Albert Einstein was a person with an objective existence that doesn't care what the people of two thousand years later think.

LaZodiac

2022-03-16, 03:41 PM

And do you think that the fact they rebuilt it exactly like it was is not the important part?
I'm still not clear what you mean by the thing's spirit.

Is it a religion thing?

Except that if someone in 2, 000 gets my femur and claims it was Albert Einstein's, no matter how many people believe it and call it "Einstein's femur", that bone was never inside Einstein's body, which is what these people are saying by calling it that. There are just a lot of people who are wrong. And if it is possible for the consensus to be wrong about the identity of a thing, then identity is not decided by consensus.

I'll trust you're not just being obtuse, and try my best to explain what I mean. Because firstly, it wasn't built exactly the same, and even if it was, would it be "correct" to say it is the same building, even though all the material components were destroyed by fire? By your understanding, it would not.

But okay, lets explain this. Think of something that means something. The Statue of Liberty, for example. That construct is symbolic of certain ideals and beliefs. If it were to be destroyed and rebuilt, or repaired over time due to weathering and stuff, would it no longer be the Statue of Liberty? Of course it would, because it still stands for those things! The material form of it has changed, but the feelings it evokes and the symbolism it imparts are the same. It is still the same thing as it always was.

While this is true, it ultimately has nothing to do with this discussion? No one could argue, for example, that a model of the Statue of Liberty is the true statue. Just as someone who made a random boat and called it Theseus's' Ship would just be a model. Sure, people can convince people that it is, and maybe within the general human consciousness it IS, but ultimately it will never be that, because it didn't do the things Theseus's Ship did.

Rater202

2022-03-16, 03:48 PM

Pop culture trivia: Camelot as depicted in Monty Python and the Holy Grail was in fact, not, "only a model."

...I watched that movie for the first time blind in middle school. I know the knights who say ni and I know the just a flesh wound bit but otherwise hadn't a clue what was what.

(A lot of jokes I'd seen made more sense after watching it.)

Originally the ending pissed me off but it grew on me as I got older.

Mystic Muse

2022-03-16, 03:49 PM

I've been having strong opinions about a celebrity who's no longer alive. The celebrity is Michael Jackson. There was this documentary called (Leaving Neverland) where these victims accuse Michael of being a C.P. My problem about this whole situation is that they should have come forward years ago when Michael was alive and he's been dead for more than a decade now.

Have you ever been abused by someone, and did you speak out against them when they were alive? And were they anywhere near as famous as Michael Jackson?

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 03:54 PM

I'll trust you're not just being obtuse, and try my best to explain what I mean. Because firstly, it wasn't built exactly the same, and even if it was, would it be "correct" to say it is the same building, even though all the material components were destroyed by fire? By your understanding, it would not.
Yes, it would. The material does not matter. The structure does. If a building is destroyed and you reuse the blueprints to make the same building you have not built another building, you have rebuilt it.

But okay, lets explain this. Think of something that means something. The Statue of Liberty, for example. That construct is symbolic of certain ideals and beliefs. If it were to be destroyed and rebuilt, or repaired over time due to weathering and stuff, would it no longer be the Statue of Liberty? Of course it would, because it still stands for those things! The material form of it has changed, but the feelings it evokes and the symbolism it imparts are the same. It is still the same thing as it always was.
But what about objects that have no meaning? The table next to me stands for nothing, no one has any attachment to it, if it's damaged in some way, I'll get another one and forget about it. But it still exists. Existence cannot rest on a thing having a special significance for people because things exist even if no one is aware of them. Pluto is the same thing now than it was before it was discovered.

While this is true, it ultimately has nothing to do with this discussion? No one could argue, for example, that a model of the Statue of Liberty is the true statue. Just as someone who made a random boat and called it Theseus's' Ship would just be a model. Sure, people can convince people that it is, and maybe within the general human consciousness it IS, but ultimately it will never be that, because it didn't do the things Theseus's Ship did.

So you agree that the meaning it holds for people is irrelevant then? If there were indeed a ship that Theseus owned, then no other ship is Theseus's ship even if people then start associating some other boat with Theseus's deeds.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-16, 04:14 PM

Have you ever been abused by someone, and did you speak out against them when they were alive? And were they anywhere near as famous as Michael Jackson?

No, I haven't. The problem I have is the timing plus that Michael Is deceased that he can't defend himself due to these accusations.

Fyraltari

2022-03-16, 04:18 PM

No, I haven't. The problem I have is the timing plus that Michael Is deceased that he can't defend himself due to these accusations.

Can't really be hurt by them either.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-16, 04:20 PM

Can't really be hurt by them either.

What do you mean by that? :confused:

Beeftank

2022-03-16, 04:25 PM

Dude is dead.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-16, 04:30 PM

Dude is dead.

That's what I'm saying.

Keltest

2022-03-16, 04:33 PM

That's what I'm saying.

The idea is that because he's dead, he can't be hurt by the accusations.

Personally, I think even if you aren't hurting the accused, there are plenty of other people you'll hurt in the process, so you better be darned certain of your evidence.

LaZodiac

2022-03-16, 04:46 PM

Yes, it would. The material does not matter. The structure does. If a building is destroyed and you reuse the blueprints to make the same building you have not built another building, you have rebuilt it.

But what about objects that have no meaning? The table next to me stands for nothing, no one has any attachment to it, if it's damaged in some way, I'll get another one and forget about it. But it still exists. Existence cannot rest on a thing having a special significance for people because things exist even if no one is aware of them. Pluto is the same thing now than it was before it was discovered.

So you agree that the meaning it holds for people is irrelevant then? If there were indeed a ship that Theseus owned, then no other ship is Theseus's ship even if people then start associating some other boat with Theseus's deeds.

I don't believe they used the same blueprints for it.

I mean, that's your thoughts on the table. I care about my dead couch because it's my first couch ever, so it has meaning to me. People can easily find meaning in everything. If I had the couch repaired, it'd be the same old couch though, just repaired. Ultimately however they both are "my couch" and not the same couch. Which is an interesting thought thinking on it.

Not even remotely. The meaning people hold for it still matters.

Peelee

2022-03-16, 06:09 PM

No, I haven't. The problem I have is the timing plus that Michael Is deceased that he can't defend himself due to these accusations.

That's a good reason for him to not be tried by the courts. That's not a good reason against public opinion.

TaiLiu

2022-03-16, 06:22 PM

This is boderline solipsistic. People thinking that an object is the same than another object does not make it so. Objects have an objective reality.

If these people, believing the femur to be Einstein extracted his genetic material from it (dunno if you can do that with 2,000 year old bones, if not assume future-science) to get some idea of what Albert Einstein was likew they'd be wrong. Because Albert Einstein was a person with an objective existence that doesn't care what the people of two thousand years later think.

Yes, it would. The material does not matter. The structure does. If a building is destroyed and you reuse the blueprints to make the same building you have not built another building, you have rebuilt it.
I wonder if there's a tension here. If Einstein's femur has the same structure as another femur, whatever structure means for you, then would that other femur also be Einstein's femur? If not: why is the history of the femur so crucial to its ontology while the history of the building isn't?

2D8HP

2022-03-16, 08:22 PM

2D8, would it be rude if I said that your life from what you've shared sounds like a Telenovela or maybe a tragic romance novel?

Parts of it sure, though when my MGB caught fire it was rather more cinematic!

My beloved roomie has called herself “your tragic heroine roommate”, and she’s not wrong.

She just called in tears while I was driving to the clinic she’s trapped at until the 30th, complaining about the food!

A small thing, but after what she’s been through already it’s insult to injury!

She’s charming, honest and kind, but also possibly cursed.

“The luckiest unlucky person”.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-17, 08:42 AM

To be honest, every post 2D8HP makes makes me more convinced life is a romance novel.

I'm hoping the kind where the heroine gets the dashing guy, not the 'Twilight but with cancer' kind aimed at teenage girls.

Peelee

2022-03-17, 09:37 AM

To be honest, every post 2D8HP makes makes me more convinced life is a romance novel.

I'm hoping the kind where the heroine gets the dashing guy

Sorry, I'm already taken. :smallamused:

Keltest

2022-03-17, 09:42 AM

Sorry, I'm already taken. :smallamused:

I'm pretty sure dragons qualify as Majestic, not Dashing.

Peelee

2022-03-17, 09:44 AM

I'm pretty sure dragons qualify as Majestic, not Dashing.

There's a myriad of adjectives that work.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-17, 10:50 AM

Sorry, I'm already taken. :smallamused:

Darn, guess it's three partners for me :smalltongue:

Rater202

2022-03-17, 11:16 AM

Manga Shoggoth

2022-03-17, 04:28 PM

I'm pretty sure dragons qualify as Majestic, not Dashing.

I'm not sure describing a dragon as "Rather Dashing (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/PeasantsQuest)" is really a good idea...

Peelee

2022-03-17, 04:33 PM

I'm not sure describing a dragon as "Rather Dashing (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/PeasantsQuest)" is really a good idea...

Of course not. Rather Dashing throws baby, dragons would never do such a thing.

I am incredibly dashing. :smallamused:

tyckspoon

2022-03-17, 04:44 PM

Chicken cooked in taco seasoning served with penne? My mom was on the phone with a relative yesterday who mentioned having eaten it the other day.

Mom seemed to think it'd be gross but my stepfather thinks it sounds good and... Honestly, my thoughts are that it might go well with some kind of cheese sauce to bind it together. Maybe a mild cheddar sauce, like you'd use for broccoli or tortilla chips.

Suppose it might be a problem for somebody with a very strong attachment to a seasoning style + how it's normally presented, but I'd expect such a person to be a 'picky eater' at best and possibly have an outright eating disorder if they can't eat taco-seasoned items on anything other than a taco shell. Otherwise it's just.. taco seasoned chicken served with a grain product, which is exactly what taco seasoned chicken served with tortillas is? Texture of the meal obviously would be somewhat different, but making a pasta dish from something like chicken - salsa - penne - taco seasonings isn't any weirder than chicken - tomato sauce - penne - italian seasonings.

gooddragon1

2022-03-17, 07:28 PM

So there's the free-electron laser. But no expensive-electron laser?

2D8HP

2022-03-17, 11:18 PM

To be honest, every post 2D8HP makes makes me more convinced life is a romance novel.

At times (though usually the characters are younger and wealthier in most novels), sometimes it’s a comedy or adventure instead (especially when one owns old British motor vehicles!).

I'm hoping the kind where the heroine gets the dashing guy, not the 'Twilight but with cancer' kind aimed at teenage girls.

Me too @Anymouswizard, me too.

And for what it’s worth once (before I gained my weight back) my roomie did say that I “looked dashing” (though I’m sure not as much as Peelee!).

Visited my beloved roommate at a new hospital that she was moved to yesterday, she can move her ankle now so hopefully she may walk again sooner rather than later (that her knee has been numb and she can’t stand or walk for days after her torso tumor surgery is yet another prank played by fate).

I miss her already, it’s been a surprise to find myself smitten like a youngster again in my 50’s, but it’s much the same as then, both good and bad.

Saw “Licorice Pizza” with her weeks ago, which means that I’ve seen three new movies this last year (the others were “Cruella” and “The French Dispatch”) which is more than I’ve seen in over a decade, all were really good!

Went to my neighborhood bar and just had soda (without whiskey) in my month-plus-some-more-days pledge to abstain from alcohol (which I do every year around this time, and also so my roommate has at least one sober friend who may drive at a moments notice), obviously avoiding the bar would help with that, but I went to tell an old friend of my roomie’s how she’s doing and to speak to a (very regal and striking) older women (yes, even older than me!), who works as a medical advocate, seemed to go well.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-18, 04:02 AM

To be honest, I'm not surprised. From what it sounds like you spent the last two decades not in love, I'm not surprised you didn't expect to feel it.

*begins chanting kids her at 2D8HP*

Rater202

2022-03-18, 06:01 AM

So a little while ago I mentioned that I saw a trailer for Turning Red, the Pixar movie about the girl who turns into a Red Panda and I wasn't sure what the conflict was? Because Fluffy?

Well, it's out now.Turns out that the conflict has surprisingly little to do with the Panda. It's got more to do with setting boundaries with a non-malicious but highly Toxic parent who just wants what's best for you and treats you with affection even as they make unreasonable demands of you and ignore your choices.

Almost everyone likes the Panda after the initial shock, mostly because fluffy...

...And I'm not sure if the Panda is a metaphor for puberty or not. Growing up and moving into that stage of life is a definite theme in the movie, and the protagonist transforming for the first time and her initial feelings regarding it are initially mistaken by two separate characters, for... Well, the metaphor used in the movie is "the red peony blooming," but after the initial transformation, it seems to be more a representation of bottled-up feelings and who you are under your inhibitions and the masks you wear around other people.

Unrelated, apparently several characters were meant to be explicitly queer but Disney made them tone it down. Not cool, Disney

Form

2022-03-18, 07:58 AM

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-18, 08:13 AM

I really want to convince one of the companies with a Wuxia game to release a limited bamboo edition. Because a) it would be classy, and b) I wants it.

LaZodiac

2022-03-18, 09:21 AM

Rater202

2022-03-18, 05:03 PM

I genuinely love cranberries but I very rarely get to eat them.

Should probably do something about that.

DavidSh

2022-03-18, 07:20 PM

I really want to convince one of the companies with a Wuxia game to release a limited bamboo edition. Because a) it would be classy, and b) I wants it.

Could you elaborate by what you mean by a "bamboo edition"? And are you talking about a board game, a video game, or some other kind of game?

I genuinely love cranberries but I very rarely get to eat them.

Should probably do something about that.

And here I ask if you mean eating raw cranberries, or cranberries stewed with sugar?

Rater202

2022-03-18, 07:28 PM

I'm using "cranberries" as a general term. Cranberry sauce, cranberry juice, dried cranberries, other dried fruits that have been infused with cranberry juice.

I've never actually eaten raw cranberry straight. Might be too sour, I don't know, but so far I've liked literally every cranberry-derived thing I've eaten.

Form

2022-03-19, 02:31 AM

*groan* Nothing like stress suddenly induced by administration and paperwork that I just discovered I need to do to issue a correction on taxes I filed. A small one, but it still needs to be done. And of course when I really want to print something right now my printer acts up and insists on ink cartridge replacement even though it doesn't even need that one! Just print in black and white, you don't need fancy cyan for this form!

Ugh, fine, whatever. It can wait a few days as I wait for the cartridge to arrive. I really wanted to print out the form and send it right away to fix this asap. I know that's just the stress talking and not actual necessity, but now I'm going to worry about this until it's done. Goddamnit.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-19, 04:34 AM

Could you elaborate by what you mean by a "bamboo edition"? And are you talking about a board game, a video game, or some other kind of game?

To answer in order: printed on bamboo, a tabletop RPG.

Fyraltari

2022-03-20, 09:51 AM

That moment when after a 14km jog you realize that you won't get any water until you're back to your flat on the sixth floor (seventh if you count ground level).

Aaargh.

LaZodiac

2022-03-20, 02:15 PM

Peelee

2022-03-20, 02:31 PM

Rater202

2022-03-20, 03:02 PM

HUZZAH!

Slay the fatted calf and tap the finest kegs of mead, an author has gotten well-deserved publicity!

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-20, 03:36 PM

Oh hey, the article about me on Cabin Radio got posted! It's too much for me to look at myself so please enjoy. (https://cabinradio.ca/88230/news/arts/yellowknife-woman-publishes-first-fantasy-novel/)

Wooooooo!

Which reminds me, once I get lenses I'll need to finish it. Reading is just so hard at the moment though.

LaZodiac

2022-03-20, 03:47 PM

Wooooooo!

Which reminds me, once I get lenses I'll need to finish it. Reading is just so hard at the moment though.

Oh yeah definitely don't like, strain yourself just to read my chickenscratches.

Slay the fatted calf and tap the finest kegs of mead, an author has gotten well-deserved publicity!

We feast!

HUZZAH! Congrats!

Thanks!

Fyraltari

2022-03-20, 04:31 PM

Heyo, congrats!

2D8HP

2022-03-20, 06:01 PM

Form

2022-03-21, 06:02 AM

Oh hey, the article about me on Cabin Radio got posted! It's too much for me to look at myself so please enjoy. (https://cabinradio.ca/88230/news/arts/yellowknife-woman-publishes-first-fantasy-novel/)

Excellent! Be sure to read it later to revel in your glory. :smallwink:

And now, let the extra book sales roll in.

Rater202

2022-03-21, 07:11 AM

Form

2022-03-21, 11:37 AM

If I were ever to write a story about a barbarian hero, I'd have them carry a bludgeon made of olive wood to symbolize that they have no quarrel with anyone but will beat the crap out of anyone who picks a fight with them.

Like some kind of wholesome Conan the Barbarian who solves problems by talking to people instead of inflicting violence on them. That could work, depending on the execution of the concept.

Fyraltari

2022-03-21, 11:54 AM

Like some kind of wholesome Conan the Barbarian who solves problems by talking to people instead of inflicting violence on them. That could work, depending on the execution of the concept.

Well, Conan the Cimmerian generally doesn't start fights.

Metastachydium

2022-03-21, 03:33 PM

Oh hey, the article about me on Cabin Radio got posted! It's too much for me to look at myself so please enjoy. (https://cabinradio.ca/88230/news/arts/yellowknife-woman-publishes-first-fantasy-novel/)

[Kneels before Zod. (Figuratively speaking.)] Well done! (I also checked that Amazon thing; you've got some shining reviews.)

.

[Meanwhile.] Hey, Bookmark! Turns out, you don't need symbiotes! Just invoke Gauss's operator, find a way to block Hilbert's arrow (https://xkcd.com/2595/) and call it a day!

LaZodiac

2022-03-21, 03:42 PM

Excellent! Be sure to read it later to revel in your glory. :smallwink:

And now, let the extra book sales roll in.

I can't it's too awkward for me aaaa thank you though!

That’s wonderful!

All congratulations to you!

Thank you!

Heyo, congrats!

Thanks!!

[Kneels before Zod. (Figuratively speaking.)] Well done! (I also checked that Amazon thing; you've got some shining reviews.)

[Meanwhile.] Hey, Bookmark! Turns out, you don't need symbiotes! Just invoke Gauss's operator, find a way to block Hilbert's arrow (https://xkcd.com/2595/) and call it a day!

Flowers can bow, if they can't kneel. And I do! Everyone who buys my book should leave a good review if they liked it so I can get more popular! And the one guy who left a negative review (you know who you are you still owe me 50 dollars) can go stuck a lemon!

Peelee

2022-03-21, 03:43 PM

[Meanwhile.] Hey, Bookmark! Turns out, you don't need symbiotes! Just invoke Gauss's operator, find a way to block Hilbert's arrow (https://xkcd.com/2595/) and call it a day!

Ya know, that's the second best simple explanation in a webcomic for explaining transformations that I've seen! I wonder if others will get on that train.

Rater202

2022-03-21, 04:21 PM

[Meanwhile.] Hey, Bookmark! Turns out, you don't need symbiotes! Just invoke Gauss's operator, find a way to block Hilbert's arrow (https://xkcd.com/2595/) and call it a day!

But if I become, or permenantly bond with, a symbiote powerful enough to be considered a symbiote dragon no arrow will be able to permanently kill me and with repeated controlled exposure I shall become immune to any special properties Hilbert's arrow might possess.

Not quite sure how to find a way around the vulnerability to light-aligned cosmic power though but realistically how often am I gonna encounter that?

Peelee

2022-03-21, 05:03 PM

But if I become, or permenantly bond with, a symbiote powerful enough to be considered a symbiote dragon no arrow will be able to permanently kill me and with repeated controlled exposure I shall become immune to any special properties Hilbert's arrow might possess.

Until Hilbert's arrow gets its own powerful enough symbiote.:smalltongue:

Rater202

2022-03-21, 05:09 PM

Until Hilbert's arrow gets its own powerful enough symbiote.:smalltongue:

An arrow bonded to a symbiote does nothing until someone fires it.

...Also, if I've developed resistance from controlled exposure adding a symbiote doesn't change that.

Edit: Also, you'd be surprised what the Arms Race Gap regarding Symbiote Powers is like. Generally speaking, if another symbiote is stronger than you you're not gonna be able to surpass them without outside help and even then...

Like, Venom's been powered up several times, sometimes at the same time as Carnage, but is always just weak enough against Carnage that he can't be defeated without multiple people teaming up and/or using specialized weapons.

Carnage has likewise been powered up all to hell, and yet is no match for Toxin... How has never been powered up and has only had three hosts. (Symbiotes get more powerful every time they change hosts.)

If I get the head start the arrow would never be able to catch up.

Peelee

2022-03-21, 08:04 PM

An arrow bonded to a symbiote does nothing until someone fires it.

A powerful enough symbiote can, why not.

Rater202

2022-03-21, 08:12 PM

A powerful enough symbiote can, why not.

Most symbiotes prefer to use themselves as weapons. Or, baring that, a host with natural weapons or martial arts training.

A symbiote would only shoot an arrow made of itself.

Most symbiotes also won't take a host that can't move on it's own.

Also the arms race gap I've mentioned.

Tvtyrant

2022-03-21, 09:02 PM

An arrow bonded to a symbiote does nothing until someone fires it.

...Also, if I've developed resistance from controlled exposure adding a symbiote doesn't change that.

Edit: Also, you'd be surprised what the Arms Race Gap regarding Symbiote Powers is like. Generally speaking, if another symbiote is stronger than you you're not gonna be able to surpass them without outside help and even then...

Like, Venom's been powered up several times, sometimes at the same time as Carnage, but is always just weak enough against Carnage that he can't be defeated without multiple people teaming up and/or using specialized weapons.

Carnage has likewise been powered up all to hell, and yet is no match for Toxin... How has never been powered up and has only had three hosts. (Symbiotes get more powerful every time they change hosts.)

If I get the head start the arrow would never be able to catch up.

That's why we make the arrow an animated sentient arrow.

Or we just tie a bell to the arrow.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-21, 09:03 PM

Most symbiotes prefer to use themselves as weapons. Or, baring that, a host with natural weapons or martial arts training.

I'm like 80% sure an arrow has natural weapons.

So clearly the solution is to attach motorised wheels to the arrow. Then we've pretty much filled all your criteria.

I mean, if you got to that point and somebody really wanted to kill you, they'd better be a Strategist potentially with the World Breaker's Hand. They're pretty much all able to turn your symbiote off for long enough to matter, the latter to just remove it from existence with a wave of their hand.

And that's after the Strategists were deported from being universally Imperator-level. The issue with a fictional arms race is that eventually somebody can find a way around it, and 'sent straight to nonexistence' is one of the few things hard to build an immunity to.

Of course then the Strategist dies of having a bookshelf fall on them. But they'll be back in a bit.

BisectedBrioche

2022-03-22, 07:50 AM

V0.7 of my Lara Croft cosplay's complete! (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1505963496730734596) ...it's super weird seeing myself as a brunette (brown contacts I can get past because I'm the only one of my siblings without them, but the hair just feels so...different).

Oh hey, the article about me on Cabin Radio got posted! It's too much for me to look at myself so please enjoy. (https://cabinradio.ca/88230/news/arts/yellowknife-woman-publishes-first-fantasy-novel/)

That's so cool! Congratulations! :smallbiggrin:

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 08:44 AM

Peelee

2022-03-22, 08:48 AM

Looking good!

It is weird that all your siblings have brown contacts, do they do a lot of acting or something? :smalltongue:,

Where do you think BB got hers from?

Rater202

2022-03-22, 10:29 AM

I mean, if you got to that point and somebody really wanted to kill you, they'd better be a Strategist potentially with the World Breaker's Hand. They're pretty much all able to turn your symbiote off for long enough to matter, the latter to just remove it from existence with a wave of their hand.

And that's after the Strategists were deported from being universally Imperator-level. The issue with a fictional arms race is that eventually somebody can find a way around it, and 'sent straight to nonexistence' is one of the few things hard to build an immunity to.

Of course then the Strategist dies of having a bookshelf fall on them. But they'll be back in a bit.

I mean, you can protect from being reality warped out of existence by 1: Having some vital piece of Cosmic something-something within you* or 2: Being a reality warper yourself.

Assuming that I go with the "reasonable" version of becoming a dragon, which is to say my "starting" condition is that I'm bonded to a weapon V bio-suit,, something cloned from The Grendel, a symbiote dragon that attacked Earth back in... Well, people confused it for Grendel coming back for another round and when Thor showed up to fight it they thought he was Beowulf.

Apparently in the Marvel Universe the story of Beowulf as we know it is the result of the real Beowulf fighting Grendel and Grendel's mother being combined and conflated with Thor fighting The Grendel and its "sister", who is unnamed but in the modern any answers to the Alias "Big Mother."

Anyway, that gets the job started and, as a bonus, weapon V bio-suits are engineered to be either mindless, fully subservient to their hosts, or both, and are infected with a targeted psychic virus hat does some kind of psychic surgery that partially severs them from the symbiote hivemind. IT's still part of the Hivemind and gains all the benefits(and can be sensed by other symbiotes) but can't be controlled or influenced by other members of the hive mind.

...But... While Weapon v symbiotes are a lot stronger than symbiotes that aren't derived from a symbiote Dragon(the orignal Sym-Soldiers could completly ignore being sprayed with napalm and weapon v suits are meant to be stronger) they're not dragons themselves.

In Absolute Carnage, when the Carnage symbiote was revived as "Dark Carnage" by merging it with the remains of the Grendel, Cletus was able to turn it back into a Symbiote Dragon, and make it much stronger, by devouring symbiote Codices and other Symbiotes... But Carnage consumed thousands of codices and dozens of symbiotes to get to that point.

There are definitely enough codices to go around following King in Black... But they're mostly in New York City, London, Hong Kong, Wakanda, and Krakoa, the main points where Knull's invasion forces were strongest. New York City's out because the marvel Us has severely cracked down on aliens and has given the Alchemex Copreration carte blanch to attack and detain anyone associated with symbiotes for experiments. If I can get to Doctor Steve first and convince him to help me I might be able to use Alchemex resources but otherwise...

London and Hong Kong, meanwhile, have much more regulated Supers with state-sponsored and mystically guided teams. Combine that with my American accent and inability to speak any form of Chinese and I'd stick out like a sore thumb. Also, as far as I know, no supers got infected in Hong Kong and only the one super got infected in London and she's a minor powered nobody.

Wakanda... Yeah, I'd get caught at the border and get my ass whooped.

So that leaves Krakoa... There are two ways I could get in... 1: Swim-up Dead Mutant's Cove, the one area o the island where they can't set up ocean security because the waves are too choppy and hope my symbiote can protect me from being crushed, drowned, or smashed against razor-sharp rocks... But someone already did that so they're gonna be wise to that trick

2: Join ORCHIS, an Anti-Mutant organization secretly run by Sapient Sentinels who think that sentinels are oppressed because Mutants won't let the sentinels kill them and because humans destroy sentinels every time the Sentinels become self-aware and decide to enslave humans. They think They're the Geth but really they're just Skynet. They're based in a space station orbiting the sun that was originally built by Tny Stark but they stole it using legal Loopholes.

ORCHIS has a few things that makes it viable 1: There is, or at least once, a Krakoan gate on the station. It's not known if ORCHIS destroyed it after discovering it. 2: They have multiple copies of the bodies of various members of X-Force. X-Force keeps attacking the station, being killed by Nimrod, and then respawning on Krakoa and trying again. 3: Abigail Brand, a hybrid of alien and mutant and head of SWORD, has betrayed both her fellow mutants and common sense by joining ORCHIS in secret. She has a plan for making the "Earthers" a major player in the Galactic Scene, but it's very convoluted, involves screwing over Krakoa, and she's a dumbass if she thinks that ORCHIS won't kill her the second she's not useful to them considering that she's 50% Homo s superior and ORCHIS is devoted to 100% extermination of all traces of Homo s superior.

(She claims to dislike Krakoa because they only know her as Brand, a reference to her mutant power... Except that' the name she gave them.)

And Brand has a Codex. she was possessed by a Symbiote when the Symbiote Imperium attacked the SWORd station in Spider-Man and the X-Men #4

If I can get to the ORCHIs station, I could have my symbiote nibble on some of the X-Force corpses in the morgue or afterward, my Symbiote would have Mutant DNA, so I should register as being accompanied by a mutant and thus be able to walk through the gates. Once I get what I need, I steal anything of value I can get away with from the ORCHIS Base and then screw off.

(The Station is Stark Tech. They might have some Extremis hidden away somewhere. Extremis does fun things with Living Abyss.)

Once on the Island... The entire Island and therefore everyone on it who eat the native produce is infected with multiple codices and also a benign version of the Transmode virus. Just living on the island and eating the fruits and vegetables grown on the island should eventually build my symbiote up to dragon power while giving it a lo to adapt to... And some of the Codices infecting Krakoa the Island originally came from Cyclops and Jean Grey, whose powers and genetics combine to create time travelers and reality warpers. (And whose symbiotes were modified to adapt and evolve much faster, which... Yeah, really useful to have. Might make the full power up from absorbing their codices permanent and accelerate my evolution in general)

It'd basically just be a waiting game until my symbiote had evolved enough that I could psychokinetically extract codices from people without hurting them and then start harvesting codices from people.

Of course, I'd have to avoid telepaths... And Gwenpool, like the plauge. Symbiote hosts are resistant to mid-reading, but there are a disproportionately high number of omega-level telepaths. And Gwenpool might recognize me as another dimensional traveler with meta knowledge.

But, if it worked, I'd be bonded to a symbiote dragon with reality-warping capabilities from the aggregate of millions of mutant powers.

*Brandy Selbie, current host of the Star Brand, was utterly unaffected by the reality-warping of the Pandemonium Cube... And kept everything she gained from her time in the altered reality(going from being a baby to... I wanna say a six-year-old? She's young enough that she completly forgot that she sensed the Eternals sneaking into Avengers Mountain when Sprite read her mind and used an illusion to turn into her 'magical sleep friend.' She also in the other timeline was raised by Rocket Raccoon and Groot, and so is ridiculously sarcastic, violent, and foul-mouthed for someone her age.)

Peelee

2022-03-22, 10:38 AM

Assuming that I go with the "reasonable" version of becoming a dragon

I think this may mean something different to you than it does to others. Definitely to me.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 10:49 AM

I think this may mean something different to you than it does to others. Definitely to me.

"Reasonable" as in I don't have everything I need from the beginning and have to put actual effort into it.

You'll note that I have it in quotation makes. That was for a reason.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 10:59 AM

I mean, you can protect from being reality warped out of existence by 1: Having some vital piece of Cosmic something-something within you* or 2: Being a reality warper yourself.

Yeah, that kind of does nothing. Nobles kind of avoid being WBHed out of existence by not only being one cosmic rung below Strategists, but because the Strategists find it much more useful to destroy the concept rather than the person embodying it. You just don't have that protection.

As for the latter, WBH solves a lot of issues. When it comes to destruction an Excrusian just reality warps better than you. Their biggest issue is if they don't have WBH, but honestly by the time your symbiote cones back online they might not even be in Creation anymore.

*stuff*

Cool, but Strategists don't really care about that. All they need is time to use their destruction abilities, which isn't long at all. You're just gaining more worldly power, while they're operating on a divine level.

Could you take one down? Probably. But we're kind of at the point where the powers are meaningfully different enough that it kind of becomes who moves first, and honestly the Strategist has a much more foolproof way of coming back. They die regularly, even the literally immortal ones.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 11:07 AM

while they're operating on a divine level.

Oh, in that case, I'm overthinking it.

Symbiotes were originally created by Knull to kill gods, or anything that is fundamentally similar to a god, and steal their power.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 11:15 AM

Oh, in that case, I'm overthinking it.

Symbiotes were originally created by Knull to kill gods, or anything that is fundamentally similar to a god, and steal their power.

Oh don't worry. Strategists aren't gods, they kill those fairly regularly. They're the nobility of the Void that existed before Creation, and they want the part that Cneph stole back. Being a god kind of relies on being part of Creation, which they never have been (even if they have powers that interact with it).

So you can try, but all you'll end up with is a very pissed off Ninuan who's just had to come back from death six times since your last encounter, and urgh she's already had to pay her bills and have a shower today so can you just please piss off into nonexistence.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 11:19 AM

They're the nobility of the Void that existed before Creation

And Symbiotes are the Void that existed before Creation. Pieces of primordial emptiness and darkness brought to live by an eldritch being older than the universe because he's pissed off by the existence of planets and stars and blamed the Celestials for it.

So we're looking at a situation where the symbiote is weaker but also has a much heavier conceptual weight.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 11:27 AM

And Symbiotes are the Void that existed before Creation. Pieces of primordial emptiness and darkness brought to live by an eldritch being older than the universe because he's pissed off by the existence of planets and stars and blamed the Celestials for it.

So we're looking at a situation where the symbiote is weaker but also has a much heavier conceptual weight.

All that means is that it's Arcana! You've just made the Strategist's job easier, their power of Lore is about about using and binding Not-thhings.

Keltest

2022-03-22, 11:28 AM

So who else feels like theyre watching a game of Calvinball right now?

Peelee

2022-03-22, 11:31 AM

So who else feels like theyre watching a game of Calvinball right now?

It's certainly a heck of a thing to witness!:smallbiggrin:

Fyraltari

2022-03-22, 11:40 AM

So, this is what I sound like like when I talk about Doctor Who.

Good to know.

Peelee

2022-03-22, 11:43 AM

So, this is what I sound like like when I talk about Doctor Who.

Good to know.

The show itself tends to be a bit simpler (https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/just-watch). :smalltongue:

Form

2022-03-22, 11:52 AM

So who else feels like theyre watching a game of Calvinball right now?

I'll say, anyone up for a game of Mornington Crescent?

Please say no, please say no, please say no

DataNinja

2022-03-22, 11:53 AM

So who else feels like theyre watching a game of Calvinball right now?

No, no, Calvinball I can understand. :smallamused:

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 11:59 AM

So, this is what I sound like like when I talk about Doctor Who.

Good to know.

Nah, that's generally understandable.

More like when you're talking about Faction Paradox.

I'll say, anyone up for a game of Mornington Crescent?

I'll start.

Archway.

Form

2022-03-22, 12:03 PM

V0.7 of my Lara Croft cosplay's complete! (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1505963496730734596) ...it's super weird seeing myself as a brunette (brown contacts I can get past because I'm the only one of my siblings without them, but the hair just feels so...different).

Complete with a pair of Desert Eagles and holsters even, judging from the background. Shoulder holsters I'm guessing, so they're visible during streaming? I'm curious what v1.0 will look like.

Archway.

An aggressive opening, I see. It would leave you vulnerable to the Camden Town block, but I'm not going to attempt that as it'd be risky to me too. I'll start at Borough.

Fyraltari

2022-03-22, 12:05 PM

Nah, that's generally understandable.

More like when you're talking about Faction Paradox.

Oh White Guardian, no!

Rater202

2022-03-22, 12:08 PM

So who else feels like they're watching a game of Calvinball right now?

No. Calvin Ball is making up the rules as you go along.

This is two people trying to reconcile established rules from two completly different settings to decide who wins even though it really doesn't matter and the two people have their own biases.

So, basically, you're watching Death Battle.

Peelee

2022-03-22, 12:08 PM

Complete with a pair of Desert Eagles and holsters even, judging from the background. Shoulder holsters I'm guessing, so they're visible during streaming? I'm curious what v1.0 will look like.

Lara Croft has dual Desert Eagles? Geez, that may be the most unrealistic thing about her.

Mystic Muse

2022-03-22, 12:10 PM

So, basically, you're watching Death Battle.

Alright, who wins, Broly or Darkseid?

Keltest

2022-03-22, 12:11 PM

No. Calvin Ball is making up the rules as you go along.

As opposed to comic books, who are well known for having a single explicit ruleset laid out right at the beginning that never changes or gets expanded upon.

Form

2022-03-22, 12:11 PM

Lara Croft has dual Desert Eagles? Geez, that may be the most unrealistic thing about her.

I think so? I remember from one of the films at least. My understanding is that they're rather heavy guns and they tend to stand out, so their image stuck with me.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 12:14 PM

Alright, who wins, Broly or Darkseid?
Which Broly?

As opposed to comic books, who are well known for having a single explicit ruleset laid out right at the beginning that never changes or gets expanded upon.

I am quoting the rules as currently established rather than making up my own.

Not sure on AnonWiz though. I honestly don't even know what setting they're citing.

Mystic Muse

2022-03-22, 12:20 PM

Which Broly?

From the recent Dragonball Super movie, not any of the original non-canon ones.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 12:25 PM

So, basically, you're watching Death Battle.

Only when we start measuring durability in megatons.

And I'm not sure if for Strategists it comes out as less than one or N/A.

Peelee

2022-03-22, 12:25 PM

I think so? I remember from one of the films at least. My understanding is that they're rather heavy guns and they tend to stand out, so their image stuck with me.

Desert Eagle is a hand cannon. It has the largest caliber ammo of almost any handgun, it's big, bulky, heavy, costly, ammo is costly, and has crazy recoil (from what I've seen. Never fired one). Like, "hand cannon" is incredibly accurate for it. Most of the time you only want one pistol, you use both hands with it. Dual wielding looks cool but is much less practical. Dual wielding Desert Eagles.... Well, if you hit what you want to with the first shot, it's going to be gone, so you won't have to worry about how insane the second shot will be (we daren't even try to think of a third!)

Definitely great guns for visuals, though. Standing out is one thing they do in spades. :smallwink:

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 12:36 PM

Yeah, Lara's standard pistols are in the .45 or 9mm sort of range, the kind of pistol professionals use in two hands but not ridiculously big (in the point of view of somebody who does not know guns). In Angel of Darkness the dual pistols are actually missable (you've got to pick one up in, IIRC, an area under a time limit), and in that case she uses all her guns two handed.

You know, despite all it's faults, AoD probably had the best platforming in the series. It lost the grid of 1-5, but the restricted moveset and limited grip just added to the challenge.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 12:57 PM

From the recent Dragonball Super movie, not any of the original non-canon ones.

So, Darkseid's thing is that every Darkseid is an incarnation of the same multiverse scale entity, a sort of living Cosmic Principal. Regardless of the origin of any given version of Darkseid, they are all ultimately embodiments of the concept of Tyranny.

So whether we're talking an Avatar or the complete conceptual entity is important.

When it comes to an Avatar, he's got a lot of cool magic powers, but the greatest feat of pure destruction he demonstrates is using his Omega beams to severely damage but not Bust a version of Earth.

Broly in the new movie is more than a match for Goku and Vegeta in their God Forms—forms that, in the anime when Goku first achieved it, he and Beerus's battle when Beerus was matching Gokus power almost shook the universe apart—even before becoming a Super Saiyan.

It's also noted that his power level keeps rising as a fight goes on and he does at points demonstrate the green aura that was signature of the "legendary" form popularized by his original self and made canon by Kale and so can presumably be assumed to have tha form as well. The legendary form seems to be roughly equivocal to the ultra bulky form that Trunks tried to use against Cell, but with no drawbacks. It also doesn't consume stamina like the regular super Saiyan form does, and in fact, seems to replenish the user's ki and stamina at a rapid rate over time.

When Broly hit his quote-on-quote peak of power in the Movie, his Super Saiyan form, combined with his berserker state that draws out the power of the Ozaru but focuses it, and the legendary power... We're talking at least a 1000X multiplier over his base form, which was already a potential universe buster.

He'd swat one of Darkseid's avatars like a fly.

If we're talking the "True" Darkseid however, that's a lot harder to answer. You can't normally punch a concept.

When Broly and Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta were fighting, they seemed to temporarily tear a hole in the fabric of space-time. And this wasn't just a visual effect because Gogeta reacted to it.

So I'm gonna say that at full power, Broly could fight True Darkseid... But it wouldn't be easy.

Broly's main advantage, in that case, would be that Darkseid is a sadist. Extending from his nature as an incarnation of Tyranny, he doesn't just want to defeat his opponents. Given the choice, he wants to dominate them. Break them. Let them beg for the death that will never come.

Between Broly's tendency to rage, his possibly mutated an enhanced Saiyan power, the stamina replenishing aspects of the legendary power, and his tendency to keep getting stronger over time(which might e a mutated form of Saiyan power) that's just going to make Broly stronger and put more fight in him. There's a distinct possibility that eventually, Broly's power will reach a point where his potential reality-warping raw might can hurt or even kill True Darkseid.

A possibility. Not a certainty. If True Darkseid caches on that his playing like Broly as if a cat with a cornered mouse is just making Broly stronger and that Broly will eventually be powerful enough to pose a legitimate threat he might just finish Broly off before he can get to that level.

It really comes down to how bad Darkseid's ego is.

TaiLiu

2022-03-22, 01:16 PM

Fyraltari

2022-03-22, 01:26 PM

So, Darkseid's thing is that every Darkseid is an incarnation of the same multiverse scale entity, a sort of living Cosmic Principal. Regardless of the origin of any given version of Darkseid, they are all ultimately embodiments of the concept of Tyranny.

So, is Darkseid an avatar of Molag Bal, or is Molag Bal an avatar of Darkseid?

Rater202

2022-03-22, 01:31 PM

So, is Darkseid an avatar of Molag Bal, or is Molag Bal an avatar of Darkseid?

Molag Bl is the embodiment of corruption, not Tyranny.

A different form of dominance.

Darkseid will torture you, beat you, or show you an equation that proves mathematically that life is pointless to break your spirit.

Molag Bal will torture you, beat you, or rape you until you either di, swear subservience to him, compromise your deeply held beliefs and morals, or magically transform into some kind of monster.

...Or all of the above.

Fyraltari

2022-03-22, 01:36 PM

Molag Bl is the embodiment of corruption, not Tyranny.

A different form of dominance.

Darkseid will torture you, beat you, or show you an equation that proves mathematically that life is pointless to break your spirit.

Molag Bal will torture you, beat you, or rape you until you either di, swear subservience to him, compromise your deeply held beliefs and morals, or magically transform into some kind of monster.

...Or all of the above.

Molag Bal's sphere encompasses both corruption and domination. He's basically the embodiment of power abuse. If that's not tyranny I don't know what is.

Edit: also with MB, the torture doesn't stop if you die. Dude's invented necromancy, y'know.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 01:39 PM

Molag Bal's sphere encompasses both corruption and domination. He's basically the embodiment of power abuse. If that's not tyranny I don't know what is.

Edit: also with MB, the torture doesn't stop if you die. Dude's invented necromancy, y'know.

Okay, this is one of those times where there's a nuance that I can perceive but don't have the words to explain right.

Fyraltari

2022-03-22, 01:45 PM

Okay, this is one of those times where there's a nuance that I can perceive but don't have the words to explain right.

I mean, I don't know much about Darkseid, but they legitimely come off as two set of writers trying to express the same concept in their respective media/genres.

BisectedBrioche

2022-03-22, 02:02 PM

Looking good!

It is weird that all your siblings have brown contacts, do they do a lot of acting or something? :smalltongue:,

Ha ha ha.

Complete with a pair of Desert Eagles and holsters even, judging from the background. Shoulder holsters I'm guessing, so they're visible during streaming? I'm curious what v1.0 will look like.

Lara Croft has dual Desert Eagles? Geez, that may be the most unrealistic thing about her.

I think so? I remember from one of the films at least. My understanding is that they're rather heavy guns and they tend to stand out, so their image stuck with me.

Desert Eagle is a hand cannon. It has the largest caliber ammo of almost any handgun, it's big, bulky, heavy, costly, ammo is costly, and has crazy recoil (from what I've seen. Never fired one). Like, "hand cannon" is incredibly accurate for it. Most of the time you only want one pistol, you use both hands with it. Dual wielding looks cool but is much less practical. Dual wielding Desert Eagles.... Well, if you hit what you want to with the first shot, it's going to be gone, so you won't have to worry about how insane the second shot will be (we daren't even try to think of a third!)

Definitely great guns for visuals, though. Standing out is one thing they do in spades. :smallwink:

Yeah, Lara's standard pistols are in the .45 or 9mm sort of range, the kind of pistol professionals use in two hands but not ridiculously big (in the point of view of somebody who does not know guns). In Angel of Darkness the dual pistols are actually missable (you've got to pick one up in, IIRC, an area under a time limit), and in that case she uses all her guns two handed.

You know, despite all it's faults, AoD probably had the best platforming in the series. It lost the grid of 1-5, but the restricted moveset and limited grip just added to the challenge.

I'm going off the Tomb Raider: Anniversary version (basically a 7th gen remake of the original game). In that game she uses Colt Mark IV 1911 chambered for .357 ammo. I just spray painted a couple of black toys I found on Amazon, because it's not like I'll be able to walk around with them anyway.

I don't think she's ever used Desert Eagles (although she does use twin Uzis in several games, if unrealistic dual wielding's your thing).

Basically the other .3 that'll lead to v1 is finishing off her belt (I've got all the pieces made and shorts/boots ready; it's just a matter of riveting everything together). Everything after that is just refining the wig, and sorting out a backpack (which I completely forgot about).

And maybe Lucozade for a very British reference.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 02:10 PM

I'm going off the Tomb Raider: Anniversary version (basically a 7th gen remake of the original game). In that game she uses Colt Mark IV 1911 chambered for .357 ammo. I just spray painted a couple of black toys I found on Amazon, because it's not like I'll be able to walk around with them anyway.

I don't think she's ever used Desert Eagles (although she does use twin Uzis in several games, if unrealistic dual wielding's your thing).

Basically the other .3 that'll lead to v1 is finishing off her belt (I've got all the pieces made and shorts/boots ready; it's just a matter of riveting everything together). Everything after that is just refining the wig, and sorting out a backpack (which I completely forgot about).

And maybe Lucozade for a very British reference.

I think she gets a Desert Eagle in AoD, relatively early on as well. Doesn't dual wield them, but I believe it is an option.

Looking forward to seeing 1.0!

factotum

2022-03-22, 02:18 PM

Actually, she gets to wield a single Desert Eagle (dual wielding definitely NOT an option) in Tomb Raider 3. I think the weapon also appeared in Chronicles. Oh, and while the gun *can* be chambered for the .50 Action Express, there are also smaller variants that take .44 or .357 Magnum instead, so it isn't necessarily the biggest calibre handgun around. Especially when monsters like this one exist:

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/577-caliber-tranter-revolver/

Metastachydium

2022-03-22, 02:24 PM

With regard to the Gauss Dragon vs. Symbiotes vs. Whatever Else AW Is Talking About thing, I'd like to quickly point out that Hilbert's arrow deals abstract and ideative damage brought forth by the power of ALGEBRA. (Which, admittedly, may be its chief weakness: algebra makes actual sense, so Marvel "science" might be immune to it.)

Desert Eagle is a hand cannon. It has the largest caliber ammo of almost any handgun,

Emphasis on almost. Even if we discount blatantly ridiculous stuff like the Pfeifer Zeliska or that weird "handgun" for .50 BMG rounds, we still have the RSh-12 with its 12.7×55 mm rounds which it shares with a battle rifle.

Definitely great guns for visuals, though. Standing out is one thing they do in spades. :smallwink:

Meh, I prefer the AMT Automag V or the Taurus M500 for stupid showboating. They use the same/comparable rounds, while being somehow even more impractical than the DE with lower capacity but longer barrels.

BisectedBrioche

2022-03-22, 02:25 PM

I double checked; she does get unnamed .50 calibre twin pistols in the first game and the remake. Just to be extra shooty.

Peelee

2022-03-22, 03:22 PM

Emphasis on almost. Even if we discount blatantly ridiculous stuff like the Pfeifer Zeliska or that weird "handgun" for .50 BMG rounds, we still have the RSh-12 with its 12.7×55 mm rounds which it shares with a battle rifle.
Yeah, I didn't want to commit to an absolute on that. I knew it was up there, though.

Meh, I prefer the AMT Automag V or the Taurus M500 for stupid showboating. They use the same/comparable rounds, while being somehow even more impractical than the DE with lower capacity but longer barrels.
I'm cheating here, but I prefer a modified Beretta 93R. Maybe rename it something like "Auto 9" or something. :smallamused:

LaZodiac

2022-03-22, 03:47 PM

Congrats, LaZodiac! That's amazing. :smallsmile:

Thank you!

V0.7 of my Lara Croft cosplay's complete! (https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/status/1505963496730734596) ...it's super weird seeing myself as a brunette (brown contacts I can get past because I'm the only one of my siblings without them, but the hair just feels so...different).

That's so cool! Congratulations! :smallbiggrin:

Thank you too! Also goodness that's a good cosplay. You've always kinda been transition goals, so I'm very jealous you can pull that look off.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 03:57 PM

https://i.redd.it/3r0wv7bppro81.jpgThis is a very difficult choice to make.

Beeftank

2022-03-22, 04:21 PM

Probably rapid regen. I’m pretty happy with how my body is, minus my eyesight, so any insurance against future catastrophic injuries might be a good bet.

Peelee

2022-03-22, 04:26 PM

Rapid regen, no contest. If that was unavailable, maybe better eyes. Mine are pretty dang good but I like the idea of getting rid of colorblindness and night vision.

BisectedBrioche

2022-03-22, 04:30 PM

Ears and tail. More specifically squirrel, because it would be like being able to summon a pillow at will.

Peelee

2022-03-22, 04:32 PM

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-22, 04:34 PM

1) better eyes, if it would also cure my abnormalities. You don't realise just how necessary sight is until you're struggling to read*. If it's just adding on top of what I have, no thank you.
2) sex switching. Change my genitals to match the gender I am, hell yes. Hopefully it also allows mixing features, because sometimes you're in-between (assuming, for the purposes of this discussion, that you are me).
3) assuming better eyes doesn't help and sex switching isn't on the table, rapid regen is a distant third.

* No offence to the blind, but I think they'll agree on just how sight-oriented the world is

Rater202

2022-03-22, 04:37 PM

Peelee

2022-03-22, 04:42 PM

Be safe, friend.

Thanks! It's just watches so far, no warnings, so I'm still feeling pretty good about the drive home soon.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 04:47 PM

Peelee

2022-03-22, 04:54 PM

In unrelated news, my mother cooked up white rice in a chicken broth and then mixed it with some garlic, some black pepper, and a can of cream of mushroom soup.

It is the most delicious rice I have ever eaten.

Never tried that with the cream of mushroom soup. Sounds delightful!

Beeftank

2022-03-22, 04:59 PM

In unrelated news, my mother cooked up white rice in a chicken broth and then mixed it with some garlic, some black pepper, and a can of cream of mushroom soup.

It is the most delicious rice I have ever eaten.

Garlic truly is the king of seasonings. Pretty much anything good I cook starts with using a bunch of garlic.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 05:02 PM

Garlic truly is the king of seasonings. Pretty much anything good I cook starts with using a bunch of garlic.

I mean, you can't put garlic in a cake.

Keltest

2022-03-22, 05:28 PM

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/276129895_340070764813666_349659746553925216_n.jpg ?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=N1YxC-ycBX4AX9eWFUF&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=00_AT9YRoZe0uCXbk9Gt7TOz1CP8F0QCK9dE-l96wL-aiD4qQ&oe=623FFC0D

Now see, it perplexes you why we live in the snow and cold, but it perplexes me why you would want to live anywhere the weather tries to actively demolish civilization like that.

HalfTangible

2022-03-22, 05:31 PM

Peelee

2022-03-22, 06:04 PM

Now see, it perplexes you why we live in the snow and cold, but it perplexes me why you would want to live anywhere the weather tries to actively demolish civilization like that.

Meh. At least we'll die warm.
Unlike Keltest, who gets both the cold and the civilization demolishing. https://data.ydr.com/tornado-archive/

Keltest

2022-03-22, 06:35 PM

Unlike Keltest, who gets both the cold and the civilization demolishing. https://data.ydr.com/tornado-archive/

I actually live in that big empty spot in the middle. Right on the edge, but still in it.

Rater202

2022-03-22, 08:37 PM

I once slept through a tornado that came right by where we lived.

Metastachydium

2022-03-23, 10:26 AM

I mean, you can't put garlic in a cake.

That seems more like a limitation of your imagination than anything else, Bookmark. (https://www.food.com/recipe/pineapple-garlic-upside-down-cake-99091)

Peelee

2022-03-23, 10:29 AM

I once slept through a tornado that came right by where we lived.

My wife claims I would be able to do that. Once while on an air mattress in the living room, I slept through a storm powerful enough to blast our French doors open. Woke up everyone else in the house in their bedrooms behind closed doors. Me just a few feet away? Like a baby.

Anyway, didn't have to test that last night. All quiet on the southern front.

That seems more like a limitation of your imagination than anything else, Bookmark. (https://www.food.com/recipe/pineapple-garlic-upside-down-cake-99091)

That's the exact cake I wanted to mention!

halfeye

2022-03-23, 10:51 AM

That seems more like a limitation of your imagination than anything else, Bookmark. (https://www.food.com/recipe/pineapple-garlic-upside-down-cake-99091)
A cake recipe that uses premixed cake mix? That aint a recipe. Using canned pineapple for anything when real pineapple is currently reasonably priced is also ridiculous, and garlic should be crushed to let the flavour out, not sliced. Not that I cook nowadays.

Rater202

2022-03-23, 10:56 AM

Regarding the dragon plan from yesterday... Something that slipped my mind is that there are several facilities in New York City, in-universe, that store, preserve, replicate, and study various "super diseases" for various purposes. It's not really clear if this is a CDC thing, a separate government thing, or a private thing... But in the Last Remains storyline, it was trivially easy for Sin-Eater to find one, break into it, and steal a sample of Spider-Flu.

It'd probably be easy enough, even laying low, to find one that has a sample of Mothervine, an engineered virus that, essentially, turns baseline humans into mutants.

Granted, it doesn't have any of the safety features that natural mutants possess so for every good power you get a whole lot of Morlock-tier or worse mutations, but a symbiote is able to cure or suppress most diseases so I could have the symbiote I'd have in this scenario suppress the effects of the virus and turn myself into an asymptomatic carrier(essentially a latent mutant) while the symbiote itself gets the full effect with its natural adaptive abilities stabilizing the mutation it develops.

Much less convoluted than what I said yesterday. At least until getting to the later stages.

Peelee

2022-03-23, 10:57 AM

A cake recipe that uses premixed cake mix? That aint a recipe. Using canned pineapple for anything when real pineapple is currently reasonably priced is also ridiculous, and garlic should be crushed to let the flavour out, not sliced. Not that I cook nowadays.

Frankly, if one does not mill their own flour and dares to purchase pre-processed bagged flour, I don't even consider it food.

Metastachydium

2022-03-23, 11:08 AM

Frankly, if one does not mill their own flour

with a millstone one carved with one's own hands and from wild emmer wheat gathered from the wilderness

I don't even consider it food.

Peelee

2022-03-23, 11:24 AM

with a millstone one carved with one's own hands and from wild emmer wheat gathered from the wilderness

A millstone? Why, we just pass the grain around in my family, taking turns milling with our fingers and nothing else! Water and wheat, that is how you make flour. None of this "stone" business to be brought into it!

Rater202

2022-03-23, 11:31 AM

A millstone? Why, we just pass the grain around in my family, taking turns milling with our fingers and nothing else! Water and wheat, that is how you make flour. None of this "stone" business to be brought into it!

Pbst. Real men eat wild grass raw and unprocessed.

HalfTangible

2022-03-23, 12:25 PM

Pbst. Real men eat wild grass raw and unprocessed.

You eat? pfft... wimp.

DavidSh

2022-03-23, 12:34 PM

You eat? pfft... wimp.

I thought that was the flower's line. Although there some carnivorous plants.

Rater202

2022-03-23, 12:37 PM

Although there some carnivorous plants.

"Feed me!"

("Does it have to be human?")

"FEED ME!"

("Does it have to be mine?")

Metastachydium

2022-03-24, 10:26 AM

I thought that was the flower's line. Although there some carnivorous plants.

Oh, we do eat! Most non-parasitic planties are technically omnivorous insofar as we do not care much where those minerals come from. After all, those tasty nutrients have to go somewhere once the worms are done eating everyone, am I right?

LaZodiac

2022-03-24, 10:32 AM

"Feed me!"

("Does it have to be human?")

"FEED ME!"

("Does it have to be mine?")

Aah, that reminds me I need to watch Little Shop of Horrors again. What a lovely musical.

Related: I listened to Hadestown and it ****ing ruled I loved it a lot. God. What a good musical too.

Rater202

2022-03-24, 11:43 AM

Mixed some leftover beef carne guisada with cheddar cheese and ate it on snack crackers. Pretty good.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-24, 06:09 PM

I might be getting to run a game soon! Likely not until the end of the university year, but soon!

The only question is do I prep something weird like Unknown Armies, or really weird like Glitch/Nobilis.

Rater202

2022-03-24, 08:25 PM

I realize that I find that power-sets/origins that involve some sort of dark primal power and/or the invocation of emotion and instinct and removed inhibition to be the most appealing.

Lord Raziere

2022-03-24, 09:18 PM

I've found I tend towards wanting to work with powers with certain things or themes like: darkness, time, blood, necromancy, ice, void, gravity, space, and such while struggling to come up with characters that I'd want to play using them.

like its so frustrating that light and such gets such well-established heroic archetypes that you can just slot into something but trying to do the same for a darkness powers person is a struggle.

Rater202

2022-03-25, 10:07 AM

According to a bathroom scale that we're, we're most definitely replacing, I've lost 80-90 pounds in the last twoish years.

...This is despite the fact that I'm still eating more or less the same foods and, despite my best efforts, probably getting less exercise than I was before the pandemic. Also all my clothes fit the same.

Hence why we need to replace the scale. Either it's broken or it just doens't go up to my actual weight.

(It's an old analog one with the spinny thingy.)

Keltest

2022-03-25, 10:16 AM

Rater202

2022-03-25, 01:32 PM

Mystic Muse

2022-03-25, 01:34 PM

French toast is actually named after a guy named 'French', just like how Hawaiian Pizza was actually created in Canada.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-25, 01:51 PM

...Is french toast actually french? Is bread that's pan-fried after being dredged in egg and a milk a thing that gets cooked and eaten in france?

I remember asking my first girlfriend what the French called the dish, if it was like the English term for English Muffins ('American Thingy').

But yeah, whether these names are actually accurate is pretty much random. English mustard is English, French mustard is not French.

LaZodiac

2022-03-25, 01:58 PM

I remember asking my first girlfriend what the French called the dish, if it was like the English term for English Muffins ('American Thingy').

But yeah, whether these names are actually accurate is pretty much random. English mustard is English, French mustard is not French.

The answer by the way is golden bread (pan dore) and things along those lines, since it originates in their country as a sort of quick and dirty ration for knights and such way back when.

Peelee

2022-03-25, 02:08 PM

French toast is actually named after a guy named 'French', just like how Hawaiian Pizza was actually created in Canada.

And German chocolate cake was named after Samuel German.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-25, 02:17 PM

And German chocolate cake was named after Samuel German.

I'm fairly certain the only true German chocolate cake is black forest gateau.

Fyraltari

2022-03-25, 03:10 PM

Brunchish type dealy. French toast prepared using presliced white bread and a standard egg and milk dredge that had been punched up with a little bit of pumpkin spice* with a Cara Cara orange as an appetizer.

The first few bites, when the juice of the orange was still resting on my pallet, were most delicious but afterward the pumpkin spice's presence ranged from mild to nonexistent, leaving a typical french toast experience.

also, the bred kind of fell apart in the cooking.

Still, ultimately a pleasing meal.

*Well, advertised as pumpkin spice. Contained cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, and allspice but lacked cloves.

...Is french toast actually french? Is bread that's pan-fried after being dredged in egg and a milk a thing that gets cooked and eaten in france?

Back when I spent a couple weeks in Ireland, they salwartly refused to believe me when I told them that we did not call French toast "toast" and that what we called "toast" was the exact same thing they call toast.

French toast is called pain perdu (literally "lost bread", but more accurately "wasted bread") because it's normally cooked with bread that has gone stale and dry and can't be used for anything else*. Let it get damp in a mix of milk, egg and sugar and fry it on a pan and you've got a perfectly serviceable dessert! It's the one nice thing about two people both buying a baguette coming back from work because they thought the other wasn't going to.

*Except as a blunt weapon.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-25, 03:20 PM

Back when I spent a couple weeks in Ireland, they salwartly refused to believe me when I told them that we did not call French toast "toast" and that what we called "toast" was the exact same thing they call toast.

French toast is called pain perdu (literally "lost bread", but more accurately "wasted bread") because it's normally cooked with bread that has gone stale and dry and can't be used for anything else*. Let it get damp in a mix of milk, egg and sugar and fry it on a pan and you've got a perfectly serviceable dessert! It's the one nice thing about two people both buying a baguette coming back from work because they thought the other wasn't going to.

*Except as a blunt weapon.

Now I wish there was a Discworld novel that featured dwarf toast.

Fyraltari

2022-03-25, 03:34 PM

The answer by the way is golden bread (pan dore) and things along those lines, since it originates in their country as a sort of quick and dirty ration for knights and such way back when.

It seems that the Québecois do indeed call it pain doré.

Well, what to expect from people who call a portable a cellulaire, hé?

Peelee

2022-03-25, 03:45 PM

LaZodiac

2022-03-25, 04:00 PM

It seems that the Québecois do indeed call it pain doré.

Well, what to expect from people who call a portable a cellulaire, hé?

That's what it's called in Canada, yeah. Other french places call it Lost Bread and such. I sorta implied that.

Fyraltari

2022-03-25, 04:02 PM

Knowing the Irish, I'm like 90% sure they were ****ing with you. "Taking the piss" I think they say.

Ah, but you see, they were American-Irish.

Very American Irish. Surprised-I-preferred-to-drink-water-rather-than-soda-at-lunch American Irish.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-25, 04:13 PM

Ah, but you see, they were American-Irish.

Very American Irish. Surprised-I-preferred-to-drink-water-rather-than-soda-at-lunch American Irish.

Ah, there's your problem. They're not Irish, they're clearly not drinking enough. Because clearly the Irish drink more than anybody but the English.

Rater202

2022-03-25, 04:13 PM

Ah, but you see, they were American-Irish.

Very American Irish. Surprised-I-preferred-to-drink-water-rather-than-soda-at-lunch American Irish.

On that topic, I've been trying to cut back on soda. Last week or so I've only had two cans of cola a day. Caught myself reaching for one and having to tell myself that I don't need it a couple times but otherwise it seems to be going well.

I mostly drink that zero sugar stuff that ain't got no calories so this isn't a weight thing, I'm just at the point where I'm a little concerned about how much caffeine is in my system at any given time.

Fyraltari

2022-03-25, 04:54 PM

That's what it's called in Canada, yeah. Other french places call it Lost Bread and such. I sorta implied that.
No? Anonymouswizard said they recalled asking their girlfriend what the French called it and you said the answer was pain doré, but that's not what the french call it, that's what the French-speaking Canadians call it.

LaZodiac

2022-03-25, 05:07 PM

No? Anonymouswizard said they recalled asking their girlfriend what the French called it and you said the answer was pain doré, but that's not what the french call it, that's what the French-speaking Canadians call it.

the "things along those lines" comment was my brief attempt at making it clear I'm referring to lost bread and the like as well. Sorry I'm too stupid.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-25, 05:29 PM

To be fair the only difference between the French and Canadians is that one is unflinchingly snooty and the other eternally polite :smalltongue:

Oh, and I guess it's a longer journey if I decide I want to flirt with ola Canadian. French beaches are just so much closer.

Rater202

2022-03-25, 05:34 PM

Random thought that popped into my head just now.

A soup. Start with chopped bacon and a pad of butter. When bacon is fried to a crisp, add sliced mushrooms and partially roasted diced potatoes. Once that's settled, add chicken broth, heavy cream, and kosher salt. Once boiling melt in a mixture of sharp cheddar and Colby jack cheese, then top with black pepper and white pepper to taste.

Sound edible?

Metastachydium

2022-03-25, 06:15 PM

According to a bathroom scale that we're, we're most definitely replacing, I've lost 80-90 pounds in the last twoish years.

Ouch. (I'd have to lose most of my body to do that.)

To be fair the only difference between the French and Canadians is that one is unflinchingly snooty and the other eternally polite

I like to think that unlike most Canadians, most of the French do speak French, so there's another item on the list.

Beeftank

2022-03-25, 08:40 PM

Except Quebec, which is full of a bunch of fake Frenchmen insecure about how not French they are who overcompensate as a result.

halfeye

2022-03-25, 08:46 PM

French toast is actually named after a guy named 'French', just like how Hawaiian Pizza was actually created in Canada.

ffrench by chance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ffrench

Rater202

2022-03-26, 03:19 PM

I used to grow pumpkins.

When I was a little kid, one year we just dumped the guts from jack-o-lantern carving behind the bushes in the front yard as fertilizer and unbeknownst to us there was still a seed in there. It took root and then every year on clockwork we'd have a pumpkin vine snaking up next to the front stoop.

I was just a kid and didn't really know much about agriculture, so most of what I did was sit next to the vine, check on it, and sometimes talk to it because that was around the time I heard the "plants react to sounds" things and obviously, these weren't ideal circumstances for growing pumpkins so while the pumpkins never really got that big. Mabe the size of a baseball, except kind of flat.

Since they wouldn't get too big before winter hit, we'd bring them in around Thanksgiving time and use them as decorations or centerpieces.

I don't know why I'm sharing this now. Just, something reminded me of the old house and I got to thinking of my pumpkin vine.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-27, 06:59 PM

Hey everyone. I'm watching the Oscars (AKA the Academy Awards) right now at the moment. :smile:

Peelee

2022-03-27, 07:06 PM

right now at the moment. :smile:

As opposed to five hours ago at the moment?

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-27, 07:11 PM

As opposed to five hours ago at the moment?

Do you mean the Red Carpet? :smile:

Rater202

2022-03-27, 07:11 PM

Today is my mother's birthday. My aunt got her a giant electric skillet. Good quality one, too. The kind where you can do all kinds of things with it.

Since Easter is coming up and my mom tends to do all the cooking during the holidays, she immediately asked "is this a hint?"

So apparently we're doing a big old thing of scalloped potatoes from scratch on Easter Sunday.

In all seriousness though, my mom loves these kinds of countertop kitchen appliances and uses them all the time so.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-27, 07:12 PM

Today is my mother's birthday. My aunt got her a giant electric skillet. Good quality one, too. The kind where you can do all kinds of things with it.

Since Easter is coming up and my mom tends to do all the cooking during the holidays, she immediately asked "is this a hint?"

So apparently we're doing a big old thing of scalloped potatoes from scratch on Easter Sunday.

In all seriousness though, my om loves these kinds of countertop kitchen appliances and sues them all the time so.

Happy Birthday to your mother. :smile:

Peelee

2022-03-27, 07:24 PM

Do you mean the Red Carpet? :smile:

No, I mean, "right now at the moment" is redundant. "Right now" means "at the moment". It's like saying "you wrote the same things twice two times".

Today is my mother's birthday. My aunt got her a giant electric skillet. Good quality one, too. The kind where you can do all kinds of things with it.

Since Easter is coming up and my mom tends to do all the cooking during the holidays, she immediately asked "is this a hint?"

So apparently we're doing a big old thing of scalloped potatoes from scratch on Easter Sunday.

In all seriousness though, my mom loves these kinds of countertop kitchen appliances and uses them all the time so.

Sounds like a pretty neat gift. Also, anything that grays more scalloped potatoes is great.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-27, 07:25 PM

No, I mean, "right now at the moment" is redundant. "Right now" means "at the moment". It's like saying "you wrote the same things twice two times".

Oh ok. My bad.

Rater202

2022-03-27, 10:51 PM

My mom also got a brand new scale. Electronic talking scale.

...Turns out the old, possibly broken one was off by about twelve pounds.

So I somehow managed to lose a significant amount of weight without noticing over the course of two years and I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Metastachydium

2022-03-28, 08:40 AM

I don't know why I'm sharing this now. Just, something reminded me of the old house and I got to thinking of my pumpkin vine.

You've also just earned some brownie points from me, if that helps.

"you wrote the same things twice two times".

What's wrong with pointing out that someone committed two instances of writing the same things twice?

LaZodiac

2022-03-28, 08:45 AM

You've also just earned some brownie points from me, if that helps.

What's wrong with pointing out that someone committed two instances of writing the same things twice?

Because an ongoing struggle is that Bartmanhomer wants us to help him with his ability to write since he is, in his words, bad at it and needs help. So we are helping as much as one can, squeezing this stone for as much juice as we can.

Peelee

2022-03-28, 08:52 AM

What's wrong with pointing out that someone committed two instances of writing the same things twice?

Yeah, I knew it could easily come off that way, but I didn't feel like trying to come up with a better version.

Also, I slept wrong. My whole body aches and it hurts to look around. Driving in to work this morning was not fun.

Metastachydium

2022-03-28, 10:27 AM

Yeah, I knew it could easily come off that way, but I didn't feel like trying to come up with a better version.

Well, don't be a pedant if you can't handle the pedantry!

Also, I slept wrong. My whole body aches and it hurts to look around. Driving in to work this morning was not fun.

My sympathies! Pain is pain!

Peelee

2022-03-28, 10:29 AM

Well, don't be a pedant if you can't handle the pedantry!

I can, though. I think I handled it quite well, in fact.

factotum

2022-03-28, 11:00 AM

Form

2022-03-28, 11:04 AM

Because an ongoing struggle is that Bartmanhomer wants us to help him with his ability to write since he is, in his words, bad at it and needs help. So we are helping as much as one can, squeezing this stone for as much juice as we can.

I think he'd best be served by language courses, be it online or offline, and simply trying to communicate instead trying to be a better writer right off the bat. The occasional correction in this thread won't amount to much, nor would I expect it to. Learning a new language is difficult!

Peelee

2022-03-28, 11:17 AM

I think he'd best be served by language courses, be it online or offline, and simply trying to communicate instead trying to be a better writer right off the bat. The occasional correction in this thread won't amount to much, nor would I expect it to. Learning a new language is difficult!

I could be mistaken but I believe English is his native tongue.

Form

2022-03-28, 11:32 AM

I could be mistaken but I believe English is his native tongue.

Oh. Well, I guess that's egg on my face then. I was laboring under a different impression.

halfeye

2022-03-28, 11:38 AM

Manga Shoggoth

2022-03-28, 11:48 AM

factotum

2022-03-28, 12:55 PM

I did consider plasma donation roughly when I got my gold badge, but had to give up on the donations after starting on some incompatable medication. Your description makes it sound like I made the right decision...

This wasn't a plasma donation, it's for a treatment for my cancer. Pretty sure a plasma donation only takes an hour or two, although the noisy machine and having needles in both arms is probably the same!

Tvtyrant

2022-03-28, 01:00 PM

This wasn't a plasma donation, it's for a treatment for my cancer. Pretty sure a plasma donation only takes an hour or two, although the noisy machine and having needles in both arms is probably the same!

I'm so sorry, that sounds grueling.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-28, 02:10 PM

So anyway, many people told me that Will Smith punched Chris Rock at the Oscars because Chris disrespected Will's wife last night. I didn't see that part because they edited it out. But I will say that it was very wrong for Chris to disrespect Will's wife like that. :eek: :mad:

Peelee

2022-03-28, 02:15 PM

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-28, 02:29 PM

Jeez that sounds rough. For nearly six hours, you'd assume they'd have a better waste system in place and maybe a meal service, at least.

If it was NHS then he's lucky they could afford the bottle.

Peelee

2022-03-28, 02:40 PM

If it was NHS then he's lucky they could afford the bottle.

If it was the US he'd get the same cardboard bottle but it would cost $4,500.

Manga Shoggoth

2022-03-28, 02:43 PM

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-28, 02:50 PM

Fyraltari

2022-03-28, 03:13 PM

I just spent five and a half hours in an uncomfortable hospital chair with a very noisy machine taking blood from one arm, removing the white cells from it, and then pumping the remnants back into the other arm. Had to go to the toilet three times into a cardboard bottle because I couldn't be detached from the machine while it was running. So, not been the most pleasant of days...

This wasn't a plasma donation, it's for a treatment for my cancer. Pretty sure a plasma donation only takes an hour or two, although the noisy machine and having needles in both arms is probably the same!
Seeing this kind of things always make me think of how inconsequential my personal problems actually are and how lucky I've been so far.
I can't imagine what I would do or feel in your shoes.
You're a brave man, factotum, and I wish you the best.

So anyway, many people told me that Will Smith punched Chris Rock at the Oscars because Chris disrespected Will's wife last night. I didn't see that part because they edited it out. But I will say that it was very wrong for Chris to disrespect Will's wife like that. :eek: :mad:

And everybody who isn't Will Smith, Will Smith's wife or Chris Rock should care because ?

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-28, 03:30 PM

If it was the US he'd get the same cardboard bottle but it would cost $4,500.

Yeah, at least he's saved a few Bob.

And everybody who isn't Will Smith, Will Smith's wife or Chris Rock should care because ?

I ask the radio that question every day.

Fyraltari

2022-03-28, 03:41 PM

I ask the radio that question every day.

The Smiths and Chris Rock are on your radio a lot.

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-28, 03:42 PM

And everybody who isn't Will Smith, Will Smith's wife or Chris Rock should care because ?

I was just making a conversation.

Peelee

2022-03-28, 04:03 PM

And everybody who isn't Will Smith, Will Smith's wife or Chris Rock should care because ?
Because they are millionaires at their annual golden statue giveaway. What else are the people living paycheck to paycheck supposed to care about?

The Smiths and Chris Rock are on your radio a lot.
Especially for someone who doesn't want them on it.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-28, 04:10 PM

The Smiths and Chris Rock are on your radio a lot.

Not personally, but every day there's a famouspersonyoudon'tcareaboutbutwe'regoingtotaljab outthemanyway. Sometimes more than one!

Although I suppose Will Smith could be be on there a lot, I keep hearing rap but as I'm only interested in music I don't check who's making the noise.

Fyraltari

2022-03-28, 04:19 PM

Because they are millionaires at their annual golden statue giveaway. What else are the people living paycheck to paycheck supposed to care about?
Say what you want about bread and circuses, but at least there was bread.

Not personally, but every day there's a famouspersonyoudon'tcareaboutbutwe'regoingtotaljab outthemanyway. Sometimes more than one!

Although I suppose Will Smith could be be on there a lot, I keep hearing rap but as I'm only interested in music I don't check who's making the noise.

Will Will Smith smith Will Smith's smith's will?

2D8HP

2022-03-28, 07:54 PM

Bartmanhomer

2022-03-28, 08:05 PM

factotum

2022-03-29, 12:50 AM

Also her giant tumor in her torso was cancer free!

She still has lymph node cancer but things are looking good

Good news, let's hope it continues to improve!

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-29, 06:43 AM

My beloved roommate can walk without a walker again(admittedly using a leg brace now, but still)!

Also her giant tumor in her torso was cancer free!

She still has lymph node cancer but things are looking good and she’s now due to come home from the hospital next week!

In other news I took the 17 year old to his semester tests in another city (a fifty minute drive), so he’s almost done with high school.

That's amazing! I'm hopeful that in a few years this thread will be celebrating two cancer survivings!

Also forgive my ignorance, but what are semester tests? I'm presuming this is something to do do with the US not having as many standardised country-wide tests as the UK (where you have your Year 2 SATs, Year 6 SATs, Year 9 SATs, GCSEs, and finally AS and A2s).

Peelee

2022-03-29, 06:47 AM

That's amazing! I'm hopeful that in a few years this thread will be celebrating two cancer survivings!

Also forgive my ignorance, but what are semester tests? I'm presuming this is something to do do with the US not having as many standardised country-wide tests as the UK (where you have your Year 2 SATs, Year 6 SATs, Year 9 SATs, GCSEs, and finally AS and A2s).

US does have national standardized tests (SAT and ACT, at least), and if never heard of semester tests. Another word for midterms maybe? But I don't know why thatd be in a different site.

Fyraltari

2022-03-29, 07:06 AM

Manga Shoggoth

2022-03-29, 09:45 AM

Keltest

2022-03-29, 10:40 AM

Woo, got myself a new PC! Put it together, got internet, and didnt break anything!

Peelee

2022-03-29, 11:00 AM

Woo, got myself a new PC! Put it together, got internet, and didnt break anything!

Woot! Everything but the internet sounds awesome. I've heard some bad things about that net though.

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-29, 11:13 AM

Woot! Everything but the internet sounds awesome. I've heard some bad things about that net though.

It's not the internet that's the issue, it's the people that use it.

I recommend staying away from forums, just in case.

Keltest

2022-03-29, 11:15 AM

It's not the internet that's the issue, it's the people that use it.

I recommend staying away from forums, just in case.

Ive heard D&D forums are just the worst. Especially threads dedicated to randomness and/or banter.

Peelee

2022-03-29, 11:18 AM

It's not the internet that's the issue, it's the people that use it.

I recommend staying away from forums, just in case.

I don't mean the world wide web, I mean the internet.

HalfTangible

2022-03-29, 11:25 AM

Woo, got myself a new PC! Put it together, got internet, and didnt break anything!

Nice. I still have the first PC i put together; it runs better than you'd think from that description.

Peelee

2022-03-29, 11:29 AM

Nice. I still have the first PC i put together; it runs better than you'd think from that description.

Well, that description could put it anywhere from yesterday to the 90s or earlier, depending on your expertise. :smalltongue:

Anonymouswizard

2022-03-29, 11:35 AM

I don't mean the world wide web, I mean the internet.

So did I, I've got nothing against the giant spiders.

Form

2022-03-29, 12:47 PM

It's not the internet that's the issue, it's the people that use it.

I recommend staying away from forums, just in case.

Especially ones with a corrupting influence like this one, lest you become a complete nerd like the rest of us. :smallwink: