Is there any benefit to putting multiple powers into a psicrown?

[Segev]

When you create a staff, you get a discount for second and more spells it can cast. The rules for creating a psicrown ( https://www.d20pfsrd.com/alternative-rule-systems/psionics-unleashed/equipment/psionic-items/creating-psionic-items/), on the other hand, seem to suggest that you pay for every power in the psicrown individually, at the same cost. But because the psicrown only has on pool of power points, you would get far more power points for your buck if you made separate psicrowns. And the rules are clear about changing form factors, so you could have psistaves if you preferred. But even if you were stuck with them occupying your head slot, it isn't like it takes more than an action to switch them around.

Is there a solid reason to stack multiple powers in a psicrown rather than making individual ones for each power, thus getting a full power point pool for each Power?

[Troacctid]

Powers after the first are cheaper.

[Segev]

Powers after the first are cheaper.

Can you explain that to me in psicrowns, please? They do not use the same formula as staves.

[Troacctid]

Yes they do.


To create a psicrown, a character needs a supply of materials, the most obvious being a circlet, crown, or the pieces of the crown to be assembled. The cost of the materials is subsumed in the cost of creating the psicrown—375 gp × the level of the highest-level power × the level of the manifester, + 75% of the value of the next highest-level power (281.25 gp × the level of the power × the level of the manifester), + one-half of the value of any other powers (187.5 gp × the level of the power × the level of the manifester). Psicrowns are always created with full power points.

Alternatively, if you want to have a higher manifester level in the psicrown, you must pay for the psicrown as if the highest-level power is one level higher for each additional two manifester levels you want

[Segev]

Yes they do.

Is that the 3.5 SRD? I did link the Pathfinder one, but...eh, maybe it's better to just use the 3.5 staff-like rules. The Pathfinder ones, if I read them right, mean it's better to just make one-power-per-psicrown to maximize pp. :smallannoyed:

[Shpadoinkle]

Is there a solid reason to stack multiple powers in a psicrown rather than making individual ones for each power, thus getting a full power point pool for each Power?

Opportunity cost. You have to be wearing a psicrown to use it. So, at minimum, you're looking at two move actions to take off the first psicrown and put on the second. That can be costly in combat.

[Ramza00]

Opportunity cost. You have to be wearing a psicrown to use it. So, at minimum, you're looking at two move actions to take off the first psicrown and put on the second. That can be costly in combat.

This may be a homebrew / 3.5 question not a pure RAW Psionics Unleashed / Ultimate Psionics question.

But since Psicrowns use craft staff as the item creation feat is there any reason why you can't just make a psionic staff instead which uses your weapon / grasped hand slot instead of your head / crown slot?

Or is that Homebrew and not officially supported by the rules except in specific magic items that are not generalized / custom?

[Tzardok]

Psicrowns use the Craft Psicrown feat, not the Craft Magic Staff feat.

Of course, you could make a psi-"crown" that is shaped and used like a staff, but it would incur the "unusual body slot" penalty and be 50% more expensive in the creation.

[Ramza00]

Psicrowns use the Craft Psicrown feat, not the Craft Magic Staff feat.

Of course, you could make a psi-"crown" that is shaped and used like a staff, but it would incur the "unusual body slot" penalty and be 50% more expensive in the creation.

Not in Pathfinder / Dreamscarred Press

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/alternative-rule-systems/psionics-unleashed/equipment/psionic-items/creating-psionic-items/