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Biggus
2022-06-23, 01:16 PM
The roper has SR 30, which is 18 higher than its CR of 12. Other than the Mercane in the ELH, this is the highest SR relative to CR I know of. Is there a higher one in a non-epic product?

Edit: for clarity, I'm not looking for combos that can grant high SR, just creatures which come with SR as standard.

Doctor Despair
2022-06-23, 01:21 PM
Golems have SR NI

Anthrowhale
2022-06-23, 03:49 PM
A Bariaur Forsaker 1 (you can enter at level 1 with 2 flaws) would have an SR of 22 and a CR of 1.

Biggus
2022-06-23, 04:06 PM
Golems have SR NI

I had a feeling this would be one of the first answers, I was not disappointed :smalltongue:


A Bariaur Forsaker 1 (you can enter at level 1 with 2 flaws) would have an SR of 22 and a CR of 1.

Thank you, but this wasn't intended as a "how high can you get SR?" question, just a "does anything come with higher relative SR out of the box?" one.

ciopo
2022-06-23, 05:08 PM
Xill are CR 6 with SR 21
Erynies are CR 8 SR 20
Juggernaut are CR 11 SR 36
Rhakasha are CR 10 SR 27

ViperMagnum357
2022-06-23, 07:25 PM
The highest non-infinite Spell Resistance definitely belongs to anything with the epic version of the Pseudonatural Creature template: scaling SR equal to Hit Dice x5. Hard to beat that after a few HD; stick it on anything with inflated RHD for the CR, and there you go. Also, a shout out to Monster of Legend from the MM2; which can pick an ability that is basically infinite Spell Turning, which is effectively infinite SR like a golem, except it reflects back on the caster.

Thurbane
2022-06-23, 08:57 PM
Looking at CR 2 or less:

Pseudodragon - SR 19, CR 1
Iron Cobra - SR 19, CR 2

Biggus
2022-06-23, 10:52 PM
There are quite a few at CR+15 to CR+17, but CR+18 or higher seems to be rare.



Juggernaut are CR 11 SR 36


Good grief! I think we have a winner. Another one to add to the MM2's "surely this must be a misprint?" list...

ShurikVch
2022-06-24, 11:56 AM
Aoa, Droplet (Fiend Folio): CR 3, SR 22 (Reflective Spell Resistance!); 22-3=19
Maulgoth (Fiend Folio): CR 17, SR 37; 37-17=20
Radiant Dragon, Great Wyrm (Draconomicon): CR 23, SR 42; 42-23=19
Spellgaunt (Monster Manual II): CR 12, SR 35; 35-12=23
Steel Dragon, Old (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 12, SR 30; 30-12=18
Steel Dragon, Very Old (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 13, SR 32; 32-13=19
Steel Dragon, Ancient (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 15, SR 34; 34-15=19
Steel Dragon, Wyrm (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 16, SR 36; 36-16=20
Steel Dragon, Great Wyrm (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 18, SR 38; 38-18=20

Biggus
2022-06-24, 12:12 PM
Aoa, Droplet (Fiend Folio): CR 3, SR 22 (Reflective Spell Resistance!); 22-3=19
Maulgoth (Fiend Folio): CR 17, SR 37; 37-17=20
Radiant Dragon, Great Wyrm (Draconomicon): CR 23, SR 42; 42-23=19
Spellgaunt (Monster Manual II): CR 12, SR 35; 35-12=23
Steel Dragon, Old (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 12, SR 30; 30-12=18
Steel Dragon, Very Old (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 13, SR 32; 32-13=19
Steel Dragon, Ancient (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 15, SR 34; 34-15=19
Steel Dragon, Wyrm (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 16, SR 36; 36-16=20
Steel Dragon, Great Wyrm (Dragons of Faerūn): CR 18, SR 38; 38-18=20

Ooh, thank you. It seems +20 is the limit unless you're in MM2...

ShurikVch
2022-06-24, 08:33 PM
If templates are acceptable, then highest non-Epic examples is, probably Spellwarped Colossal Monstrous Crab (Stormwrack) CR 15, SR 59; 59-15=44
Also, Shadow Simulacrum halves creature's CR (and HD); Petitioners are all CR 1 (and HD 2 or less), but may keep their original SR (if Ex, and not depends on HD number)

If non-associated classes for NPC are in use - then, say, Mind Flayer Barbarian 8 would have CR 12 and SR 33; 33-12=21

Biggus
2022-06-24, 11:52 PM
If templates are acceptable, then highest non-Epic examples is, probably Spellwarped Colossal Monstrous Crab (Stormwrack) CR 15, SR 59; 59-15=44
Also, Shadow Simulacrum halves creature's CR (and HD); Petitioners are all CR 1 (and HD 2 or less), but may keep their original SR (if Ex, and not depends on HD number)

If non-associated classes for NPC are in use - then, say, Mind Flayer Barbarian 8 would have CR 12 and SR 33; 33-12=21

Thank you, but I'm just looking for comes-as-standard SR, not combos that can boost it.