Infinite penalty to everything

[Beni-Kujaku]

If you follow the Ritual of Crucimigration as a Dvati, each of the twin sees the other die and never return to life, but gets immunity to ability damage. This means the skill check, attack roll and saving throw continue to accumulate. Is there something you can do with -inf to skill checks, attack rolls and saving throws. Can you transfer these penalties somehow, or is there some check that you can fail so hard that it does something good?

Alternatively, how would you play a character with no way to make skill, attacks or saving throws? Caster seems obvious, but do you have something original in mind?

[Doctor Despair]

Is there something you can do with -inf to skill checks, attack rolls and saving throws. Can you transfer these penalties somehow, or is there some check that you can fail so hard that it does something good?


Use Silver Tongue (OA) to modify the diplomacy skill.


Benefit: You can use the Diplomacy skill (trained or untrained) to produce the following effects:

Change an NPC's attitude toward a person other than yourself. The DC is the same as if you were changing the character's attitude toward you.

Your check is abysmally low, so with a rushed diplomacy check, you can force your enemies to dislike each other by 1 step per round, eventually making them outright hostile to one another.

Technically, since you're Dvati, you can reduce their attitude towards their ally by two steps each round, so you can make a guard that's indifferent to a second guard decide to attack the guard. No mind-affecting tag; you're just that convincing.

[Jay R]

The penalties only apply to "the surviving twin". There is no surviving twin, and therefore no penalty.