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Anonymouswizard
2022-09-04, 09:40 AM
Welcome, one and all, to the latest incarnation of the random banter thread. Please wait onee moment while I shamelessly copy and past the work of the previous thread opener.

Rules for Random Banter

1. Spam. For RB, one-word posts are generally considered spam. Likewise, posts that are nothing but *actions like this* are also be considered spam. Remember that the quality of the post's content is much better than the speed of your response.

2. This isn't the Play by Post or Town forum, nor is it the Silly Message Board Games or Structured Games forum. Please avoid continuous roleplay or mock battles and fights such as the "competition for control of the universe".

3. If it's already a thread, don't bring it to RB. RB has such a huge range of subject matter even restricted to the little snippets that probably don't warrant their thread, it doesn't need legitimate thread topics cluttering it up as well. The exception to this is to bring something off-topic from one thread, but on-topic for RB and the subject doesn't warrant a thread of its own.

4. Don't advertise other threads in RB. Just because these new threads move at speeds more appropriate to a message board than an IM session doesn't mean you need to come over to RB and browbeat people into posting in your latest brainchild.

5. Please don't post single-line posts alerting us to your current status -- as in "I'm back." This is Random Banter, not "How to stalk Random GitP forum members."

6. Don't poke, kick or bump the thread. It will move at whatever pace it wants to. Also, please refrain from Captain Obvious comments akin to "My, the thread is fast today."

7. Random Banter can only be as good, or as entertaining, as you make it. Demands to be entertained will fall on deaf ears unless you can add something more meaningful to the conversation.

8. As this is a public forum, where the current topic is nicely recorded for you, and not a conversation where you could have missed the beginning, please refrain from asking something to the effect of "What's the topic?". Please take the time to read up a bit first.

9. Thread Creator must include the words "Random" and "Banter" as well as the thread #. Try to be concise as well.

10. Every post should contain two visible, legible complete sentences, Subject and Predicate. C'mon, make your old English teachers proud.

11. Remember, Random Banter is not your IM client. If you want to have a back and forth discussion with just one person, look in their contact information for IM details.

12. Whenever a new thread is created, all "first post", "first-page", and all posts of that nature will be deleted by the administrators. Please avoid doing this, as it is frustrating for them to deal with one-lined posts like this.

13. Double-posting is not your friend. We have edit buttons for a reason.

14. Once you have made a Random Banter thread, you must wait for 12 threads before making another one.

15. If you can avoid dibs calling on making the next thread, that will avoid people needing to wait if the thread hits 50 pages while the dibs-caller is asleep.


Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)
Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
var Lord_Magtok = Random(Banter*62) + Surrogate (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801)
Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Eldpollard's RB #77 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
Random Banter #79 In Loving Memory of Hexa_Regina (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40909)
Zeratul's random banter #80 of throwing puppies off bridges (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41778)
Vespe's Random Banter #81 of singing dolphins and mostly harmless planets. (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43254)
CSK's Giant in the Playground Forums Addicted Anonymous, Random Banter #82 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44919)
Iames's Ramblingly Erratic Belldandy-Charged Random Banter #83 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47592)
Serpentine's Scintillating Sensually and Sinuously Seductive Stochastic Satire #84 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49048)
Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them... (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50658)
Moon Called's Random Banter #86 of Sexy Anime Boys and Fangirl Squeals (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51825)
Lilly's Lovely Random Banter #87 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52783)
FdL's Fuzzbox-Fueled Random Banter #88 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612)
SweetRein's Sugary Restrained Random Banter #89 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59668)
Midnight's Mutant Motorcycle Madness Random Banter #90 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62430)
Em's Extremely Extraordinarily Epic Random Banter #91 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65645)
Dragonrider's Random Banter in Conjunction with the Weighted Cube #92 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67629)
Bushranger's Bodaciously Buffed Random Banter-y Rooster #93 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69425)
Haruki's Historically Hilarious Honey-covered Random Banter #94 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71161)
North's Maple Syrup Flavored Non-Alliterative Random Banter #95 Eh? (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73464)
Wadledo's Weirdly Warbling Watercress Watching Washing Machine Only Random Banter #96 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75946)
SMEE's Random Banter #97 of gender bending and closet bursting (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78694)
Raiser's Rambunctiously Rambling Random Banter #98 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626)
Dr. Bath's Random Banter, dripping with daring deeds of dastardly deipnosophists #99 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84068)
VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84914)
Jack Squat's Justlessly Juxtaposed Random Banter #101 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87577)
Dallas-Dakota's Dundering Dandelion's Devilish Damsel's Distress Random Banter #102 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4790602#post4790602)
Destro Yersul's Dangerously Distracting and Doubtlessly Disturbing Random Banter #103 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4903962#post4903962)
Aziraphales Actually Alliterative and Awesomely Affluent Random Banter #104 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92718)
Cristo's Consistently Confusing and Constantly Casual Random Banter #105 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94491)
Dish's Delightfully Deranged and Deliciously Deliquent Random Banter # 106 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905)
Slayer's Seemingly Sweet and Socially Silly Random Banter # 107 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97703)
Zero's ambrosial and aberrantly adventitious, abstemiously erudite Random Banter #108 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99100)
Coplantor's Completely Creative Cautious and Contemplative Random Banter #109 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100414)
Rutskarn's Roly-Poly Rebellious and Rejected Random Banter #110 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101156)
TwoBitWriter's Tubular Tracts of Thought-Talking Random Banter #111 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5600540#post5600540)
Phase's Phully Phormed, Phalangeal, and Phantasmagorical Random Banter #112 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101988)
Wolfbane's Wonderfully Wacky and Wildly Wandom Random Banter #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102865)
The Kiwi's Kinkily Knotted and Kookily Kickass Random Banter #114 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103674)
Jude's Judgmental Jugular Jab and Jibber Jabbery Random Banter #115 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104480)
The Throne of Thufir's Thoroughly Theoretical and Therapeutic Random Banter #116 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105584)
Random Banter #117 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106698)
Dragonprime's Dynamically Dangerous Dextrous and Destructive Random Banter #118 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107882)
Farmer Felix's Fantastic FRandom FBanter #119 (may contain traces of fnuts) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109007)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part one) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110963&page=50)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part two) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113197)
Mrmud's Mixed-Up and Minimally Mechanized Random Banter #121 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114623)
Dogmantra's Dastardly, Despotic and Dangerous Random Banter #122 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116660)
Alteran's Amazingly Anachronistic, Altruistic, and Antagonistic Random Banter #123 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118380)
Admiral Euphoria's Random Banter Thread of Delusional Grandeur #124 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6614894)
Fred's Flying Fishy, Fighting, Fiery, Fantastic Face Off Random Banter #125 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121385)
Cyrano’s Non-Alliterative Inaugurational Random Banter #126 To Usher In The Future (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122977)
Thanatos's Tharmturges Present: Tropical, Tipsy, and Typically Random Banter #127
(https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123816)loopy's Legendary and Long-Awaited Lollipop Fuelled Random Banter #128 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124786)
Shadow's Shady Shop of Sharks, Shingles, Shammies, Shiny and Random Banter #129 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125667)
KataraAltinaII's Premature Not So Short & To-The-Point Random Banter #130 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126557)
Supagoof's Supa-Sensational Silly Symphonies Set Sizzingly On Fire Random Banter #131 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128570)
Pyrian's Pyrotechnic Pyre of Pyrrhic Pyros with Pyrotic Pythics Random Banter #132! (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130459)
Perenelle's Pleasantly Playful and Passionately Peculiar Random Banter #133 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131814)
Rpgsr4me's Ravenous, Roaring, Raging Rampage of Random Banter #134 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7373844#post7373844)
Il'deav Ilah'naie's Indiscreet Intimacies on Indigo Iceboats Random Banter #135 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134438)
Recaiden's Resplendent and Rotating Realistic Random Banter #136 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136879)
Jibar's Random Banter #137: Return of the Cat-muffin (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138879)
Edge's Effluence of Extravagant and Effulgent Random Banter #138 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7876065)
Zeb The Troll's Zecond Go At Ze Random Banter #139 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061505&postcount=1)
Curly's Rambunctious and Erudite Random Banter #140 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148462)
Deth Muncher's Destructive and Meandering Random Banter #141 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150904)
A Thread in Which Banter Most Random is Expulsed Into Existence, By Ravens_cry #142 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8722755)
Several Silly Sealions Stuffed Seaweed Southward Swiftly (Or, Random Banter #143) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159998)
The thread that changed name one last time, with style. (Random Banter #144) (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161407)
Banjo’s Bodacious & Boosted Bumper Bulletproof Box of Banter Most Random #145 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162819)
Masa's Massively Masterful Message Medium - Random Banter #146 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164224)
KuReshtin's Vociferously Ruminating Harbinger of Random Banter - #147 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166664)
Archonic's Archaic Acronymical Antidisestablishmentarianism Random Banter - #148 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169890)
Skeppio's Splendidly Strange & Superbly Scintillating Random Banter - #149 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173056)
Teddy's Turbulent and Topicless Random Banter #150 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175338)
Fifty-Eyed Fred's Ferociously Fanatical and Fabulously Fascinating Random Banter #151 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178205)
Rae's Really Rascally and Ridiculously Rowdy Random Banter #152 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181296)
Haruki's Hot n' Holy Random Banter #153 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10176275#post10176275)
MoonCat's Magnificently Mythopoeic Random Banter #154 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187576)
Eadin's Exchange of Extraterrestrial Excuses AKA Random Banter #155 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190034)
Happy HalfTangible's Horrific Hail of Random Banter #156 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10629167#post10629167)
AtlanteanTroll's Atrocious and Terrific Arcade of Terror - RB #157 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196302)
LaLa’s Laughably Silly Random Banter Thread – RB #158 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198767)
Zaydos's Zany Zooetic Random Banter - RB #159 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200208)
Blue's Blessed and Blissful Random Banter - RB #160 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201653)
Absolmorph's Azoic Arete of Adventitious and Aimless Random Banter - RB 161 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202546)
Gwyn's Gloriously Green Garrumphing Garter of Garrulous Gabble! Random Banter #162 (https://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203954)
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You may now return to your regular discussions of wizards, computer games, and whatnot.

Rater202
2022-09-04, 09:55 AM
We picked up some "grilled cheese and tomato soup" flavored cheese curls and...

It's more like garden vegetable flavor if you get my drift.

Jasdoif
2022-09-04, 11:30 AM
So it turns out the achievement for completing Bioshock on the highest difficulty without ever dying reviving at the Vita-Chamber is named "I Chose the Impossible". I can't decide if that's clever or trite.It's Bioshock the answer is yes, full-chested and with pride.I just noticed that the Vita-Chamber independent version of the achievement is "A Man Chooses". So with the progression from "A Man Chooses" to "I Chose the Impossible", I think you're right....

Peelee
2022-09-04, 12:07 PM
I just noticed that the Vita-Chamber independent version of the achievement is "A Man Chooses". So with the progression from "A Man Chooses" to "I Chose the Impossible", I think you're right....

It's also directly lifted from Andrew Ryan's speech in the intro.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-04, 01:42 PM
It's also directly lifted from Andrew Ryan's speech in the intro.

That's an interesting name there. I'm sure it says nothing about his philosophical views.


Meanwhile I had a hankering for Cyberpunk, so I've been playing the Shadowrun games, mostly Hong Kong. Certainly better cyberpunk than that game that came out two years ago, I just sometimes wish that character creation had an NB option.

Still doesn't mean that I'm not going to be hitting up Dead Man's Switch with a lady PC. I'm planning to play a massive troll, while coincidentally making her a 2.5m horned wall of muscle.

LaZodiac
2022-09-04, 02:02 PM
That's an interesting name there. I'm sure it says nothing about his philosophical views.


Meanwhile I had a hankering for Cyberpunk, so I've been playing the Shadowrun games, mostly Hong Kong. Certainly better cyberpunk than that game that came out two years ago, I just sometimes wish that character creation had an NB option.

Still doesn't mean that I'm not going to be hitting up Dead Man's Switch with a lady PC. I'm planning to play a massive troll, while coincidentally making her a 2.5m horned wall of muscle.

Bioshock's writing is many things. Subtle is not one of them.

I will say that of the Cyberpunk games, Dead Man's Switch is the most basic, so should be done first... but all of them are quite good. Still need to play Hong Kong myself, but Dragonfall was one of the best games I've ever played.

Also hey look at this; I've done a rough draft of my novel's world map! Take a look at it please! (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016052755938422794/unknown.png)

2D8HP
2022-09-04, 02:43 PM
Me, my beloved roommate, and a friend of hers all saw Three Thousand Years of Longing together of Friday, I very much recommend it, a fine fantasy film, the closest I can think that’s been like it was Stardust, but 1940’s Thief of Bagdad and 1958’s 7th Voyage of Sinbad come closer.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-04, 03:15 PM
Bioshock's writing is many things. Subtle is not one of them.

I will say that of the Cyberpunk games, Dead Man's Switch is the most basic, so should be done first... but all of them are quite good. Still need to play Hong Kong myself, but Dragonfall was one of the best games I've ever played.

Also hey look at this; I've done a rough draft of my novel's world map! Take a look at it please! (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016052755938422794/unknown.png)

Yeah, I know. About as much subtlety as a scalpel gaffer taped to an ICBM in that game.

I'm a bit lucky in that I played a bit of DMS before, so I know what to expect. But I'm telling myself that if I can get through this I can play Dragonfall again. I'd say that Hong Kong is better than Dragonfall, but it's a lot more reading and two team members are pretty bad at their job (Duncan doesn't have any cyber to give him bonuses, whereas Is0bel's deck is always subpar for that point in the game).

Cool map! I think, I personally have little interest in them.


Me, my beloved roommate, and a friend of hers all saw Three Thousand Years of Longing together of Friday, I very much recommend it, a fine fantasy film, the closest I can think that’s been like it was Stardust, but 1940’s Thief of Bagdad and 1958’s 7th Voyage of Sinbad come closer.

2D8HP has two girlfriends!

Glad your roommate is doing well, I hope she wore a dress.

I'm always up for some pulpy fantasy, maybe I'll see if my girlfriend's interested.

2D8HP
2022-09-04, 04:14 PM
[…]Glad your roommate is doing well, I hope she wore a dress.


Thanks @Anonymouswizard!

She did indeed wear a dress, both for the movie and for the Latin-themed rooftop lunch/dinner we had before.

She’s using a cane now (so we got to use elevators instead of stairs), but she graduated from using a walker, so progress!


I'm always up for some pulpy fantasy, maybe I'll see if my girlfriend's interested.


Conan it wasn’t, more fair-tale/Arabian nights (with Ottoman history thrown in), I still recommend it!

As far as a recent “date movie” for that I recommend seeing Licorice Pizza and Mrs. Harris Goes To Paris more 😊.

Still a beautiful film though.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-04, 05:46 PM
Thanks @Anonymouswizard!

She did indeed wear a dress, both for the movie and for the Latin-themed rooftop lunch/dinner we had before.

She’s using a cane now (so we got to use elevators instead of stairs), but she graduated from using a walker, so progress!

I'm glad she's doing well. If she's going to be on a cane for a while you two should totally go cane shopping together and get her a cool one!


Conan it wasn’t, more fair-tale/Arabian nights (with Ottoman history thrown in), I still recommend it!

As far as a recent “date movie” for that I recommend seeing Licorice Pizza and Mrs. Harris Goes To Paris more 😊.

Still a beautiful film though.

I mean, by fairy tale do we more more cautionary tale or folklore? Because folklore stories are cool!

And sure that depends on what my girlfriends are into? :smallwink: I mean for one of them I'm pretty sure I could gmconvince her to watch anything with detective, LGBT, or occult themes (as long as it's not a horror movie). None of us are really romance fans, when picking out a game for another member of the quad I thought it would be safe to go for something nice and girly, which meant it had to be Doom.

2D8HP
2022-09-04, 06:51 PM
I'm glad she's doing well. If she's going to be on a cane for a while you two should totally go cane shopping together and get her a cool one!


Thanks!


I mean, by fairy tale do we more more cautionary tale or folklore? Because folklore stories are cool!


Both (with a slight helping of science-fantasy ala the old Unknown magazine stories), but I’d say more towards the folklore end.


And sure that depends on what my girlfriends are into? :smallwink: I mean for one of them I'm pretty sure I could gmconvince her to watch anything with detective, LGBT, or occult themes (as long as it's not a horror movie). None of us are really romance fans, when picking out a game for another member of the quad I thought it would be safe to go for something nice and girly, which meant it had to be Doom.


Good point, all ladies and all gents don’t share the same tastes, my legal wife has no interest in seeing Mrs Harris, which my roommate loved and I loved.

LaZodiac
2022-09-04, 09:07 PM
Yeah, I know. About as much subtlety as a scalpel gaffer taped to an ICBM in that game.

I'm a bit lucky in that I played a bit of DMS before, so I know what to expect. But I'm telling myself that if I can get through this I can play Dragonfall again. I'd say that Hong Kong is better than Dragonfall, but it's a lot more reading and two team members are pretty bad at their job (Duncan doesn't have any cyber to give him bonuses, whereas Is0bel's deck is always subpar for that point in the game).

Cool map! I think, I personally have little interest in them.

As subtle as lesbians censored as cousins without any of the kissing removed.

I doubt ISObel is any worse at her job than Blitz.

Entirely fair! Glad you enjoyed looking at it briefly at least!

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-04, 09:48 PM
As subtle as lesbians censored as cousins without any of the kissing removed.

Totes cousins! I mean dating cousins is to me a bit icky, but there's many places where it's the norm and in the short term isn't that problematic for genetic diversity.

Lesbian cousins!

In terms of media with lesbians in it, I've started a new comic which features many of the wlw persuasion! Sadly though it's confirmed that Lucifer does not possess the power of clairlechage.


I doubt ISObel is any worse at her job than Blitz.

Blitz IIRC at least begins with a mid-tier deck and can either can be given a Farlight or has it in his upgrades.

Is0bel is using a starter deck until like the penultimate mission.

Sidenote: Dead Man's Switch locks stat boosting cyberware behind a relatively late mission. I'm nearing the endgame and I've only just got a cyberarm. (Alternatively it gives you a third AP way before the mid point.)


Entirely fair! Glad you enjoyed looking at it briefly at least!

Everybody should try something new occasionally. For me today it was looking at maps.

TaiLiu
2022-09-04, 10:59 PM
Okay, I was trying to avoid a huge detailed explanation but...
Thanks for writing it up! It probably took a while. That explanation makes sense.


Does "Thac0" rhyme with "Jack-O"

More along the lines of 'taco', possibly.
Yeah, I've always pronounced it "taco," but I've never played any edition before 3.5e, so I'm probably wrong.


McWane Science Center downtown has their third floor done up as a dragon-themed exhibit. It's pretty aweome, I gotta say.
Oh, cool! Komodo dragon or fantasy dragon?


Take a look at it please! (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016052755938422794/unknown.png)
Cool! The rivers (are they rivers?) are interesting. I'm guessing they're artificial, since natural rivers rarely split and instead tend to merge.

Keltest
2022-09-04, 11:01 PM
Cool! The rivers (are they rivers?) are interesting. I'm guessing they're artificial, since natural rivers rarely split and instead tend to merge.

I assume the intent is a river delta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_delta). Without a scale its a little harder to tell.

TaiLiu
2022-09-04, 11:02 PM
I assume the intent is a river delta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_delta). Without a scale its a little harder to tell.
Oh, maybe you're right!

LaZodiac
2022-09-05, 12:09 AM
Cool! The rivers (are they rivers?) are interesting. I'm guessing they're artificial, since natural rivers rarely split and instead tend to merge.

that is actually a network of rivers caused by a man-made water distributary system! Originally the river would just go long the merry path it had, but they set up a system that sends it all out into the plains!

Also there are more rivers than just those, I just haven't put them on the map because I'm not 100% perfect at that sorta thing (gonna trust the artist who will do the proper map for that one).

Bartmanhomer
2022-09-05, 02:14 AM
Hey everyone. Happy Labor Day. I have a four-day weekend and I'm going back to work this Wednesday. :smile:

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-05, 05:30 AM
Hey everyone. Happy Labor Day. I have a four-day weekend and I'm going back to work this Wednesday. :smile:

Ha, weekends are a myth!

Rater202
2022-09-05, 05:33 AM
Ha, weekends are a myth!

No no no, you're thinking of pants.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-05, 07:15 AM
No no no, you're thinking of pants.

Sadly my research has indicated that while only superheroes wear them over their trousers, most people do wear them.

Rater202
2022-09-05, 08:40 AM
Sadly my research has indicated that while only superheroes wear them over their trousers, most people do wear them.

You should know by now, my friend, that as a treacherous colonial that when I say "pants" I mean what you refer to as "trousers."

Which, of course, an an illusion perpetuated by the pantsinati to imprison our legs so that the discomfort distracts us from their allies, the flatians, evil plot to convince the world that the earth is a pancake.

...This is a joke.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-05, 09:31 AM
You should know by now, my friend, that as a treacherous colonial that when I say "pants" I mean what you refer to as "trousers."

Which, of course, an an illusion perpetuated by the pantsinati to imprison our legs so that the discomfort distracts us from their allies, the flatians, evil plot to convince the world that the earth is a pancake.

Please if we had that much power we'd have suppressed all knowledge of skirts a hundred years ago.


...This is a joke.

Uh, can you do me a favour? If you see any entrousered kill squads can you ask them to turn their radios on for me

DataNinja
2022-09-05, 11:52 AM
Please if we had that much power we'd have suppressed all knowledge of skirts a hundred years ago.
You will pry my skirts away from my cold, dead hands. Pants are so frustratingly confining, especially jeans. :smallyuk:

Bartmanhomer
2022-09-05, 12:07 PM
Ha, weekends are a myth!

You're thinking of mythical Pokemon. :smile:

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-05, 12:15 PM
You will pry my skirts away from my cold, dead hands. Pants are so frustratingly confining, especially jeans. :smallyuk:

I hear many girls claim that, but they still wear trousers.


You're thinking of mythical Pokemon. :smile:

No. You see mythical Pokémon have a rather fundamental issue, in that there is verifiable confirmation of their existence.

And I'm getting an urge to play Mystery Dungeon again.

Bartmanhomer
2022-09-05, 12:18 PM
No. You see mythical Pokémon have a rather fundamental issue, in that there is verifiable confirmation of their existence.

And I'm getting an urge to play Mystery Dungeon again.

Good point. Anyway, I'm going to meditate at home today and relax. :smile:

Fyraltari
2022-09-05, 01:50 PM
Please if we had that much power we'd have suppressed all knowledge of skirts a hundred years ago.
You are despicable.

I hear many girls claim that, but they still wear trousers.

It's not about wearing a skirt or not, it's about the freedom to do so.

DataNinja
2022-09-05, 02:23 PM
I hear many girls claim that, but they still wear trousers.
Ever since I've gotten a job that's not involved being in a food-related area, I have worn no "trousers." Skirts and dresses only. I have a pair or two of jeans in my closet for emergencies, I guess, but they've remained unworn since I tried them on in the store ages ago.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-05, 03:07 PM
Ever since I've gotten a job that's not involved being in a food-related area, I have worn no "trousers." Skirts and dresses only. I have a pair or two of jeans in my closet for emergencies, I guess, but they've remained unworn since I tried them on in the store ages ago.

Yeah, I'm just taking a joke too far.

I really need to get myself some skirts/dresses. As well as lose some weight and maybe talk to my doctor about Oestrogen.

LaZodiac
2022-09-05, 04:27 PM
You will pry my skirts away from my cold, dead hands. Pants are so frustratingly confining, especially jeans. :smallyuk:

Same. Hate jeans. Also I found a wonderfully cute miniskirt at Walmart yesterday and... it was too small for me v_v


Ever since I've gotten a job that's not involved being in a food-related area, I have worn no "trousers." Skirts and dresses only. I have a pair or two of jeans in my closet for emergencies, I guess, but they've remained unworn since I tried them on in the store ages ago.

This is why I hate winter. The bepantsed season.

DataNinja
2022-09-05, 04:50 PM
Same. Hate jeans. Also I found a wonderfully cute miniskirt at Walmart yesterday and... it was too small for me v_v
Ah, that sucks. Clothes sizing is the devil.

This is why I hate winter. The bepantsed season.
I'm fortunate that things are mild enough here that I can just get away with leggings to keep me warm. Rather than having to resort to Pants.

LaZodiac
2022-09-05, 07:32 PM
Well, I got rejected from the 99 Fleeting Fantasy short story collection. Didn't expect to make it in anyway so whatever.

On the plus side I finished up the map for my novels, which I'd like you all to look at with your eyes thank you VuV (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016456752398598176/unknown.png)

Rater202
2022-09-05, 08:01 PM
Well, I got rejected from the 99 Fleeting Fantasy short story collection. Didn't expect to make it in anyway so whatever.

On the plus side I finished up the map for my novels, which I'd like you all to look at with your eyes thank you VuV (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016456752398598176/unknown.png)

It looks good, zodi.

Fyraltari
2022-09-06, 04:47 AM
Well, I got rejected from the 99 Fleeting Fantasy short story collection. Didn't expect to make it in anyway so whatever.

On the plus side I finished up the map for my novels, which I'd like you all to look at with your eyes thank you VuV (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016456752398598176/unknown.png)

You should add a scale so the size of everything is clearer.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 08:01 AM
You should add a scale so the size of everything is clearer.

This is good advice. It's a Pangaea continent but I think it's about as big as like, all of North America maybe? It's also definitely not to scale, since I'm not a good artist in any stretch.

Rater202
2022-09-06, 08:16 AM
This is good advice. It's a Pangaea continent but I think it's about as big as like, all of North America maybe? It's also definitely not to scale, since I'm not a good artist in any stretch.

So it's the only continent, but it's not a "big" continent?

If the planet is the same size, that would make this planet a Water World...

...Interesting.

Keltest
2022-09-06, 08:19 AM
This is good advice. It's a Pangaea continent but I think it's about as big as like, all of North America maybe? It's also definitely not to scale, since I'm not a good artist in any stretch.

Oof. Continent sized maps are the worst, particularly including things like cities and other man-made stuff. I never know how much detail to go into.

Jasdoif
2022-09-06, 09:58 AM
On the plus side I finished up the map for my novels, which I'd like you all to look at with your eyes thank you VuV (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016456752398598176/unknown.png)Three hours until my eye surgery, so I guess this is the time o_o


So...orange lines are like the major routes (I want to say lightning rail but I'm sure that's the wrong setting), yellow lines are less-major but still well-established roads? And the path from (capital settlement?) Nishikai-to to (major settlement) Chimizu-fu can't/doesn't sustain the major route across the distributary plain for technical/historical/political reasons, so travelers have to offload onto more conventional roads for that leg of their journey? And capitals(?) Eastown and Zarrhdad are off the major routes...I'm wildly guessing Zarrhdad (and Fi-alzilal) for political reasons, Eastown because the lack of major settlements between it and Coeurgant/Sablepoint makes it technically infeasible to sustain the infrastructure required to attach it to that transit network (which may or may not coincidence with political reasons)?


Reverse engineering cartography is fun, but a map legend would be helpful for a larger audience.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-06, 10:06 AM
Star Wars thought: the fact that Like wasn't given a new name by Owen and Beru probably doesn't actually matter.

First off, we have no idea how common Skywalker is, but it's probably no Featherstonehaugh. It's likely a lot of spacers adopted it at some point, and thus probably a good number of families with multiple branches baring the name.

But even if it is relatively rare and Luke went to the Imperial Academy to become a pilot it probably doesn't matter. Less than 1% of the Imperial command structure knows that Vader's birth name was Skywalker, and likely even fewer know he might have kids (Anakin and Padme's relationship was not public knowledge). Would you file a report to your superior saying you e probably found the second cousin of the Emperor's personal enforcer? It's a potential issue if he ever achieved command of a vessel, particularly a Star Destroyer, because it makes meeting Vader in person more likely but 1) Vader likely doesn't meet even the captain of every SSD, 2) it's unlikely Luke wants such a command anyway, and 3) Vader has always sucked at subtle uses of the Force.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 10:07 AM
So it's the only continent, but it's not a "big" continent?

If the planet is the same size, that would make this planet a Water World...

...Interesting.

I'm bad at scale so I don't know what is a feasable size for a pangaea. I know like, from example it'd be as big as all of our continents together, but I can't measure five feet let alone however many kilometers that is.


Oof. Continent sized maps are the worst, particularly including things like cities and other man-made stuff. I never know how much detail to go into.

It's super tricky! The addition of roads and rails made it feel a lot more lived/real/full, which helped!


Three hours until my eye surgery, so I guess this is the time o_o


So...orange lines are like the major routes (I want to say lightning rail but I'm sure that's the wrong setting), yellow lines are less-major but still well-established roads? And the path from (capital settlement?) Nishikai-to to (major settlement) Chimizu-fu can't/doesn't sustain the major route across the distributary plain for technical/historical/political reasons, so travelers have to offload onto more conventional roads for that leg of their journey? And capitals(?) Eastown and Zarrhdad are off the major routes...I'm wildly guessing Zarrhdad (and Fi-alzilal) for political reasons, Eastown because the lack of major settlements between it and Coeurgant/Sablepoint makes it technically infeasible to sustain the infrastructure required to attach it to that transit network (which may or may not coincidence with political reasons)?


Reverse engineering cartography is fun, but a map legend would be helpful for a larger audience.

There'll be a legend, and it'll be a lot easier to parse when it isn't my chicken scratches.

Orange is rail ways, yellow/off-yellow are roads (the brighter yellow is indicative of a specific named highway). You're basically not wrong with regards to capitals, though there's this underlining "I haven't put every single city and town on the map since that'd be absurd, so there are some other places here as well that just go unnamed" For example, there's a place where a bunch of roads and the rail-line meet up in Kaiga, that'd definitely be a city within that particular nest of distributaries, I just didn't want to think of a name for it at the moment. And yes, all the cities with star markers are capitals, yeah.

Also a thing that isn't quite clear from my own map: Trestaria is a desert area. Rocky plains, some India style jungles, and ye ole sand-dunes.

Peelee
2022-09-06, 10:42 AM
Star Wars thought: the fact that Like wasn't given a new name by Owen and Beru probably doesn't actually matter.

First off, we have no idea how common Skywalker is, but it's probably no Featherstonehaugh. It's likely a lot of spacers adopted it at some point, and thus probably a good number of families with multiple branches baring the name.

But even if it is relatively rare and Luke went to the Imperial Academy to become a pilot it probably doesn't matter. Less than 1% of the Imperial command structure knows that Vader's birth name was Skywalker, and likely even fewer know he might have kids (Anakin and Padme's relationship was not public knowledge). Would you file a report to your superior saying you e probably found the second cousin of the Emperor's personal enforcer? It's a potential issue if he ever achieved command of a vessel, particularly a Star Destroyer, because it makes meeting Vader in person more likely but 1) Vader likely doesn't meet even the captain of every SSD, 2) it's unlikely Luke wants such a command anyway, and 3) Vader has always sucked at subtle uses of the Force.

Disregarding that it would have been trivial for the Emperor to put in flags in case any Skywalkers registered for the Academy, Vader didn't know and wasn't looking for any kids. There's not really any issue with him finding out if Luke hadn't run off with the Rebellion.

That said, the sequels and prequels did strain credulity on the things that happened, mostly because of small-universe-syndrome. It sucks but it happens a lot, waddaya gonna do.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 10:56 AM
Honestly?

Make "Skywalker" a bastard name, like Snow or Stone.

It'd make so much more sense, and it'd even make one of the (many) dumb things in the final New Trilogy series actually make sense and have like, a good vibe to it. It's not a name related to a dynasty, it's a name that means "you are of no name". That'd be rad!

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-06, 11:11 AM
Honestly?

Make "Skywalker" a bastard name, like Snow or Stone.

It'd make so much more sense, and it'd even make one of the (many) dumb things in the final New Trilogy series actually make sense and have like, a good vibe to it. It's not a name related to a dynasty, it's a name that means "you are of no name". That'd be rad!

For better or worse Star Wars is tied up in dynasties and Chosen Ones. But the thing is, you don't need it to be a bastard name for such a change to work, you just need it to be a common one.

It is entirely feasible that Skywalker is the local version of Smith. Considering that Qui-Gon and Padme doesn't remark on a slave having it it's probably not unusual.maybe there's a few hundred Skywalkers in the city. Rey also probably isn't uncommon, , it might be equivalent to me claiming to be Claire Smith. A name that, if a random person gave you you'd probably just shrug off.

Of course to make that work the writers would have to REUSE NAMES, which doesn't seem to be something Star Wars authors like.

Form
2022-09-06, 11:11 AM
On the plus side I finished up the map for my novels, which I'd like you all to look at with your eyes thank you VuV (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016456752398598176/unknown.png)

You might want to pick slightly darker colors for Felisia, Dulace and Trestaria and some of the settlement names are difficult to read because of their background. Bright colors on white backgrounds tend not to be very easy on the eyes.

Now, time for wild geo-political speculation!


Gaka no Shinden, Gottes Anteil and Spiritus Finalis are conspicuously situated apart from each other and at the corners of a triangle covering the continent. Their names suggest they may have religious significance. Also, what's up with Spiritus Finalis? Is that an impact crater or did they carefully carve out a bay around it?
Kaiga, Felisia and Exova are more integrated with each other then with Dulace and Trestaria. Neither Dulace nor Trestaria have an internal rail network, so I suspect these nations are less well developed than the others.
Felisia is landlocked, so they probably don't have a navy. Exova probably only has a small one as Rosenstadt is the only major settlement near the coast and the rest is walled off by either mountains for forest.
I'm not seeing any major port cities anywhere? Dulace and Trestaria have plenty of coast, though if those nations are less well developed than I guess I shouldn't expect them to have major port trade/industry hubs. However, I would expect Kaiga to have a major port? Kaige has those islands, that peninsula and a big river delta, so I'd expect them to have the largest navy.
City names in Dulace are somewhat similar to those in Felisia, possibly suggesting some common history. Breakaway province? Felisian Protectorate?
Fi-alzilal is close to the end of a mountain road between Exova and Trestaria. If there were a major conflict between Felisia on the one side and Trestaria and Exova on the other, I'd expect Felisia to try to take that settlement to split the Exova-Trestaria supply lines and armies. But Trestaria is probably not a major threat if it's underdeveloped.
Invading Kaiga by sea would be a nightmare. You'd be stuck between those islands and that peninsula and you'd have the river delta to contend with. Unless you'd want to make a play for their capital, then striking across the sea from the south may very well be viable and be a better choice than going by land through the peninsula. Except that none of the other factions probably have a navy large enough to do that.
Crossroads is vulnerable to Felisia with that forest separating if from the rest of Dulace.

Peelee
2022-09-06, 11:22 AM
For better or worse Star Wars is tied up in dynasties and Chosen Ones. But the thing is, you don't need it to be a bastard name for such a change to work, you just need it to be a common one.

It is entirely feasible that Skywalker is the local version of Smith. Considering that Qui-Gon and Padme doesn't remark on a slave having it it's probably not unusual.maybe there's a few hundred Skywalkers in the city. Rey also probably isn't uncommon, , it might be equivalent to me claiming to be Claire Smith. A name that, if a random person gave you you'd probably just shrug off.

Of course to make that work the writers would have to REUSE NAMES, which doesn't seem to be something Star Wars authors like.

Given that the Republic/Empire spans most of the galaxy, with millions of alien beings and countless humans across countless worlds, I wouldn't imagine any name would be "uncommon".

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 11:23 AM
For better or worse Star Wars is tied up in dynasties and Chosen Ones. But the thing is, you don't need it to be a bastard name for such a change to work, you just need it to be a common one.

It is entirely feasible that Skywalker is the local version of Smith. Considering that Qui-Gon and Padme doesn't remark on a slave having it it's probably not unusual.maybe there's a few hundred Skywalkers in the city. Rey also probably isn't uncommon, , it might be equivalent to me claiming to be Claire Smith. A name that, if a random person gave you you'd probably just shrug off.

Of course to make that work the writers would have to REUSE NAMES, which doesn't seem to be something Star Wars authors like.

Entirely fair points, all told!


You might want to pick slightly darker colors for Felisia, Dulace and Trestaria and some of the settlement names are difficult to read because of their background. Bright colors on white backgrounds tend not to be very easy on the eyes.

Now, time for wild geo-political speculation!


Gaka no Shinden, Gottes Anteil and Spiritus Finalis are conspicuously situated apart from each other and at the corners of a triangle covering the continent. Their names suggest they may have religious significance. Also, what's up with Spiritus Finalis? Is that an impact crater or did they carefully carve out a bay around it?
Kaiga, Felisia and Exova are more integrated with each other then with Dulace and Trestaria. Neither Dulace nor Trestaria have an internal rail network, so I suspect these nations are less well developed than the others.
Felisia is landlocked, so they probably don't have a navy. Exova probably only has a small one as Rosenstadt is the only major settlement near the coast and the rest is walled off by either mountains for forest.
I'm not seeing any major port cities anywhere? Dulace and Trestaria have plenty of coast, though if those nations are less well developed than I guess I shouldn't expect them to have major port trade/industry hubs. However, I would expect Kaiga to have a major port? Kaige has those islands, that peninsula and a big river delta, so I'd expect them to have the largest navy.
City names in Dulace are somewhat similar to those in Felisia, possibly suggesting some common history. Breakaway province? Felisian Protectorate?
Fi-alzilal is close to the end of a mountain road between Exova and Trestaria. If there were a major conflict between Felisia on the one side and Trestaria and Exova on the other, I'd expect Felisia to try to take that settlement to split the Exova-Trestaria supply lines and armies. But Trestaria is probably not a major threat if it's underdeveloped.
Invading Kaiga by sea would be a nightmare. You'd be stuck between those islands and that peninsula and you'd have the river delta to contend with. Unless you'd want to make a play for their capital, then striking across the sea from the south may very well be viable and be a better choice than going by land through the peninsula. Except that none of the other factions probably have a navy large enough to do that.
Crossroads is vulnerable to Felisia with that forest separating if from the rest of Dulace.


Yeah I did try to get darker colours, but I also didn't want to repeat colours because I'm a huge nerd about it. The professionally drawn one will be better on that front too.

Ooh, geo-guessing! That's fun. Lets see...


I hadn't actually noticed the triangle connection, neat! They are religious sites, and yup, it's a crater, though no one knows what caused it.
Correct to a degree! Dulace is very northern, Canada-esque, it's where the hardest winters are, so tough on trains. Trestaria is as said a deserty area, another place that isn't super conducive to trains. Trestaria however is a very good vacation spot, and flights to the various resorts it would have on the coast that I just didn't personally mark down would be common.
It's not entirely necessary to have a navy in this setting given just the one big continent, but those are entirely fair and correct reads- and Rosenstadt is a port city, I just wasn't sure how close to draw it to the border to denote that. As the Mineral Sea somewhat implies, there's large mineral deposits in the sea that can get dredged up, so most mining is done off shore.
The capital of Kaiga is a port, it's even got a big bay named after it. There's also likely other port cities than what I've written out myself. Also technically not a series of islands but a distributary system of rivers- though yeah, Kaiga does have the best, or at least most prolific, navy.
Correct that they're connected! Without dipping too deep into spoilers and deep history, Dulace used to be called Pagos, was conquered by ancient Felisia and renamed Du Glace, and once they liberated themselves time name drift had stuck.
Yeah, most wars in this setting have been land wars.
This is true, and Crossroads historically has swapped who actually owns it quite a bit. Back in the day it used to be a trading center- people would cross the straight by boat to get around Dividing Peak and skirt across the Felisian border to get to Trestaria and the like. Eventually it became a permanent settlement.


Also; most of the geopolitical stuff is in the past- one hundred years before Rei's book starts, there was a massive Founding War that ended up unifying every country under Felisia, turned into provinces of the Felisian Hub.

Fyraltari
2022-09-06, 11:30 AM
I have long thought that if I ever write a SW fanfic, the main character's last name will be Skywalker and they'll always clarify "no relation" upon meeting someone.

Rater202
2022-09-06, 11:33 AM
Did anyone else grow up with reruns of Wacky Races? If so, how old were you when you realized that **** Dastardly would have won every single race if it wasn't for his compulsion to cheat?

Peelee
2022-09-06, 11:38 AM
Also, for what it's worth, names like "Skywalker" and "Darklighter" belong to Tatooine natives - no other character has a name following that convention, and in the Legends books it was explicitly called that out as a Tatooine convention.

Form
2022-09-06, 11:46 AM
Also; most of the geopolitical stuff is in the past- one hundred years before Rei's book starts, there was a massive Founding War that ended up unifying every country under Felisia, turned into provinces of the Felisian Hub.

It's a good thing you said that, because I'd just started drawing up war plans for the various nations to deal with the others.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-06, 11:48 AM
Given that the Republic/Empire spans most of the galaxy, with millions of alien beings and countless humans across countless worlds, I wouldn't imagine any name would be "uncommon".

True, but common for the planet/area still matters, John Lu will stand out more in the uK than John Davies.


I have long thought that if I ever write a SW fanfic, the main character's last name will be Skywalker and they'll always clarify "no relation" upon meeting someone.

Honestly I'd be tempted set such a story before the PT and imply there's another famous Skywalker running about.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 11:50 AM
It's a good thing you said that, because I'd just started drawing up war plans for the various nations to deal with the others.

If you're serious do share it with me that's cool as hell. I've thought a lot about how this world changes and shifts from the dawn of life to medieval ages to modern day so suffice to say I care a somewhat larger than normal amount about things like that.

Peelee
2022-09-06, 11:55 AM
True, but common for the planet/area still matters, John Lu will stand out more in the uK than John Davies.

Sure, but you're not going to really react much to "John Lu" other than maybe checking the spelling, if you need. The Jedi's lack of reaction doesn't really say much.

Form
2022-09-06, 01:33 PM
If you're serious do share it with me that's cool as hell. I've thought a lot about how this world changes and shifts from the dawn of life to medieval ages to modern day so suffice to say I care a somewhat larger than normal amount about things like that.

**** yeah, now I've got an excuse.

Dulace vs. Felisia:

As Dulace I'd not seriously try to hold Crossroads. Maybe leave a hold out garrison there to fight a delaying action, but otherwise Felisia can have it. Maybe I'd even go scorched earth on it. The forest will be good for partisan activity, but with no major roads going through it supplying a conventional army will be difficult. Maybe they'll try to push along the road towards Wolvesknoll, but that'll be difficult for them. I'll need to march from Laketown/Easttown to Coeurgant first. It's closest and it's an infrastructure hub. If Felisia actually pushed towards Wolvesknoll from Crossroads, I'll need to move west to sever the connection from Center City first. Without supplies their offensive near Wolvesknoll will fail. If they haven't pushed towards Wolvesknoll, I can take Sablepoint first. I do not want to march on Center City until my flanks are secure.

As Felisia I'd want to take Crossroads or at least bottle it up whilst messing with the supply line from Wolvesknoll. Then I'd just go straight for Eastown. If I can take Eastown and Laketown, I'll have effectively cut Dulace in half. Pushing towards Wolvesknoll from Crossroads probably isn't worth it.

Trestaria vs Felisia:

As Trestaria I'll have to take Sablepoint. I mean, it's right at the front and a major infrastructure hub. Then take Coeurgant and then I can threaten Center City. I'd try to get Dulace on board as well, see if they're still sore about Felisia conquering them back in the day. Even if they only help with resupply, then that'd already be pretty good.

As Felisia I'd take Fi-alzilal first. Not because it's closest, but because I can sever their supply line to Exova that way. There'll be no goods going in or out through that mountain pass anymore. Resupply by sea would still be an issue, but the coast is far way. After that I'd move gradually eastwards, pushing along towards Markaz-amn. At the same time I'd try to push towards Saihsar along the road. After that I'd probably take Inebu-hedj and save the capital for last.

Exova vs. Felisia

As Exova I wouldn't go to Sablepoint. It's too far, there's only that 1 railway to it and my line of advance would be threatened from Center City and Claiforet. Belvegarden needs to fall first. It's a major infrastructure hub, I need to go through it to grab New Newhaven and I can't really go through the forest to Claiforet with a vulnerable flank. Depending on conditions on the ground I'd either take New Newhaven (railway) first or Claiforet (surprise through the forest maybe? Big maybe, though.). If either Claiforet or New Newhaven falls, the other city will be vulnerable. After that the road is open to Center City.

As Felisia I'd to for Grenzeburg first to secure my front and establish another supply line from Sablepoint via rail. After that probably Rosenstadt as it's a major port city. Taking Rotenheim would probably be easier than Mondburg as I can strike from Rosenstadt and Belvegarden now. Besides, Mondburg doesn't really matter anymore once I can cut off the roads to Drachfestung. Now Drachfestung I'd leave alone. I do not relish the thought of moving troops through the mountains to a major enemy stronghold across no doubt prepared positions. I'll just camp at the base of the mountain. Without supplies they'll starve eventually. If I feel really balsy and confident about my military strength w.r.t. Trestaria, I might even take Fi-alzilal to cut off that supply line to Exova IF it's an important one. It'd be easier than taking Mondburg or taking the other side of the mountain without a road leading there from a Felisian city.

Kaiga vs. Felisia

As Kaiga I have a problem because my navy is not useful now. Erhm, wait for Felisia to advance and grind them down on familiar territory? I'd expect my land forces to be weaker than theirs because I need to spend resources on a navy and they don't. Unless my defense budget is seriously bloated? I'm not really worried about my capital. It's far away and I can resupply by sea. Blow the railway between Chimizu-fu and Belvegarden to stall their advance. They'll have to take Chimizu-fu, so I intend to make that very painful for them. I do not expect much of Chimizu-fu to be left after that, but, erh, c'est la guerre.

As Felisia I need to take Chimizu-fu as quickly as possible. I'm not going to bother with their capital for a long time, so go on the defensive around Belvegarden. After Chimizu-fu I need to take The Kumo-no-sui so I can then move into the river delta. I'm assuming this is a major economic and industrial area for Kaiga (if it's not, then that would change things). I'd rather not try to have a go at their capital if I can instead just take out the rest of their industry.

General side notes:

Any force marching on the Kaigan capital is going to have a rough time. It's a peninsula, so it's approach could be a bit of a bottleneck and those forests right in front of the capital don't help either. Kaiga can probably resupply their capital with their navy and none of the other powers could likely do much about it. I would try to blow the railway to Nishikai-to, if I have air power and/or long range artillery. Kaiga will not want to let an enemy force approach close enough for that to happen. Loss of the bridge wouldn't mean fall of the city (because Kaiga can resupply by ship), but if anyone wants to throttle that city then that bridge has to go.

The islands are a non-factor. All the action happens on the continent. Unless maybe there's something really special about the islands. However, an exception would be a conflict between Kaiga and Trestaria (I'm assuming the map wraps around, i.e. it's the entire world and it's round like a real one). Then those islands could be important as air bases and/or naval bases.

Mining rights in the Mineral Sea might be a flashpoint for a war. I can see this causing some friction between the various nations.

With Trestaria being a desert, fresh water sources will be extra important in that theatre of war.

Nations might attack a neutral nation if they feel they can claim important infrastructure that way and are confident in their ability to fend off another belligerent. For example, Belvegarden would be useful to both Kaiga and Exova because of the railway if they're fighting each other, even though Felisia might be neutral.

Things can change greatly depending on the relative strengths of the nations evolved and their political objectives. But the above would be my amateur guess as to what regions are important.



... I had fun writing this out.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 01:43 PM
**** yeah, now I've got an excuse.

Dulace vs. Felisia:

As Dulace I'd not seriously try to hold Crossroads. Maybe leave a hold out garrison there to fight a delaying action, but otherwise Felisia can have it. Maybe I'd even go scorched earth on it. The forest will be good for partisan activity, but with no major roads going through it supplying a conventional army will be difficult. Maybe they'll try to push along the road towards Wolvesknoll, but that'll be difficult for them. I'll need to march from Laketown/Easttown to Coeurgant first. It's closest and it's an infrastructure hub. If Felisia actually pushed towards Wolvesknoll from Crossroads, I'll need to move west to sever the connection from Center City first. Without supplies their offensive near Wolvesknoll will fail. If they haven't pushed towards Wolvesknoll, I can take Sablepoint first. I do not want to march on Center City until my flanks are secure.

As Felisia I'd want to take Crossroads or at least bottle it up whilst messing with the supply line from Wolvesknoll. Then I'd just go straight for Eastown. If I can take Eastown and Laketown, I'll have effectively cut Dulace in half. Pushing towards Wolvesknoll from Crossroads probably isn't worth it.

Trestaria vs Felisia:

As Trestaria I'll have to take Sablepoint. I mean, it's right at the front and a major infrastructure hub. Then take Coeurgant and then I can threaten Center City. I'd try to get Dulace on board as well, see if they're still sore about Felisia conquering them back in the day. Even if they only help with resupply, then that'd already be pretty good.

As Felisia I'd take Fi-alzilal first. Not because it's closest, but because I can sever their supply line to Exova that way. There'll be no goods going in or out through that mountain pass anymore. Resupply by sea would still be an issue, but the coast is far way. After that I'd move gradually eastwards, pushing along towards Markaz-amn. At the same time I'd try to push towards Saihsar along the road. After that I'd probably take Inebu-hedj and save the capital for last.

Exova vs. Felisia

As Exova I wouldn't go to Sablepoint. It's too far, there's only that 1 railway to it and my line of advance would be threatened from Center City and Claiforet. Belvegarden needs to fall first. It's a major infrastructure hub, I need to go through it to grab New Newhaven and I can't really go through the forest to Claiforet with a vulnerable flank. Depending on conditions on the ground I'd either take New Newhaven (railway) first or Claiforet (suprise through the forest maybe? Big maybe, though.). If either Claiforet or New Newhaven falls, the other city will be vulnerable. After that the road is open to Center City.

As Felisia I'd to for Grenzeburg first to secure my front and establish another supply line from Sablepoint via rail. After that probably Rosenstadt as it's a major port city. Taking Rotenheim would probably be easier than Mondburg as I can strike from Rosenstadt and Belvegarden now. Besides, Mondburg doesn't really matter anymore once I can cut off the roads to Drachfestung. Now Drachfestung I'd leave alone. I do not relish the though of moving troops through the mountains to a major enemy stronghold across no doubt prepared positions. I'll just camp at the base of the mountain. Without supplies they'll starve eventually. If I feel really balsy and confident about my military strength w.r.t. Trestaria, I might even take Fi-alzilal to cut off that supply line to Exova IF it's an important one. It'd be easier than taking Mondburg or taking the other side of the mountain without a road leading their from a Felisian city.

Kaiga vs. Felisia

As Kaiga I have a problem because my navy is not useful now. Erhm, wait for Felisia to advance and grind them down on familiar territory? I'd expect my land forces to be weaker than theirs because I need to spend resources on a navy and they don't. Unless my defense budget is seriously bloated? I'm not really worried about my capital. It's far away and I can resupply by sea. Blow the railway between Chimizu-fu and Belvegarden to stall their advance. They'll have to take Chimizu-fu, so I intend to make that very painful for them. I do not expect much of Chimizu-fu to be left after that, but, erh, c'est la guerre.

As Felisia I need to take Chimizu-fu as quickly as possible. I'm not going to bother with their capital for a long time, so go on the defensive around Belvegarden. After Chimizu-fu I need to take The Kumo-no-sui so I can then move into the river delta. I'm assuming this is a major economic and industrial area for Kaiga (if it's not, then that would change things). I'd rather not try to have a go at their capital if I can instead just take out the rest of their industry.

General side notes:

Any force marching on the Kaigan capital is going to have a rough time. It's a peninsula, so it's approach could be a bit of a bottleneck and those forest right in front of the capital don't help either. Kaiga can probably resupply their capital with their navy and none of the other powers could likely do much about it. I would try to blow the railway to Nishikai-to, if I have air power and/or long range artillery. Kaiga will not want to let an enemy force approach close enough for that to happen. Loss of the bridge wouldn't mean fall of the city (because Kaiga can resupply by ship), but if anyone wants to throttle that city then that bridge has to go.

The islands are a non-factor. All the action happens on the continent. Unless maybe there's something really special about the islands. However, an exception would be a conflict between Kaiga and Trestaria (I'm assuming the map wraps around, i.e. it's the entire world and it's round like a real one). Then those islands could be important as air bases and/or naval bases.

Mining rights in the Mineral Sea might be a flashpoint for a war. I can see this causing some friction between the various nations.

With Trestaria being a desert, fresh water sources will be extra important in that theatre of war.

Nations might strike attack a neutral nation if they feel they can claim important infrastructure that way and are confident in their ability to fend off another belligerent. For example, Belvegarden would be useful to both Kaiga and Exova because of the railway if they're fighting each other, even though Felisia might be neutral.

Things can change greatly depending on the relative strengths of the nations evolved and their political objectives. But the above would be my amateur guess as to what regions are important.



... I had fun writing this out.

Oooohohoho. This was really fun to read, thank you- and even without full knowledge of the world, you've got a good grasp of what some of the dynamics are. I like to think that means I at least conveyed something across in my little scribble of a map. Thank you :smalltongue:

Once the prettification of the novel is done (soon!) I have a feeling you'll enjoy the book itself!

Metastachydium
2022-09-06, 01:47 PM
If you're serious do share it with me that's cool as hell. I've thought a lot about how this world changes and shifts from the dawn of life to medieval ages to modern day so suffice to say I care a somewhat larger than normal amount about things like that.

Funny. "Crazy war fanfictions" was also my first idea when I saw a couple of details on the map. I'm personally surprised to learn the Felisians ended up on top; Exova seems to be in a better position to pull that in an all-out Battle Royale. Those fellers have it all: a capital with a very defensible position, mountains securing their eastern flank, a well-developed transportation network, access to a mineral-rich seabed and (for the first act of the WARfare!Verse, my personal favourite:) the capital of Kaiga within their reach. It's far away from other Kaiga urban centers, better connected by roads to the Exovan heartland (allowing for the supply lines to be easily cut (it's one coastal road and a bridge or tunnel they may as well demolish)) and basically begging for an amphibious assault that would wreck Kaiga morale and secure Exova's western flank.

Anyhow, speaking of names: Kaiga is trisyllabical, right? Also, what's the matter with Exova and Trestaria? Their toponyms have clear themes to them, which the country names very much don't fit. Meanwhile, Felisia and Dulace both seem to have more than one naming theme going simultaneously (Anglo/French and Anglo/Grecian, respectively). What's that about? (And the rectangles? Military installations? Who administers the Holy Mountains? Why are there just three for five polities/provinces?)

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 02:08 PM
Funny. "Crazy war fanfictions" was also my first idea when I saw a couple of details on the map. I'm personally surprised to learn the Felisians ended up on top; Exova seems to be in a better position to pull that in an all-out Battle Royale. Those fellers have it all: a capital with a very defensible position, mountains securing their eastern flank, a well-developed transportation network, access to a mineral-rich seabed and (for the first act of the WARfare!Verse, my personal favourite:) the capital of Kaiga within their reach. It's far away from other Kaiga urban centers, better connected by roads to the Exovan heartland (allowing for the supply lines to be easily cut (it's one coastal road and a bridge or tunnel they may as well demolish)) and basically begging for an amphibious assault that would wreck Kaiga morale and secure Exova's western flank.

Anyhow, speaking of names: Kaiga is trisyllabical, right? Also, what's the matter with Exova and Trestaria? Their toponyms have clear themes to them, which the country names very much don't fit. Meanwhile, Felisia and Dulace both seem to have more than one naming theme going simultaneously (Anglo/French and Anglo/Grecian, respectively). What's that about? (And the rectangles? Military installations? Who administers the Holy Mountains? Why are there just three for five polities/provinces?)

I think something that might have been missed is that this is the most modern moment for this world map. The trains were not cross country a hundred years ago when the Founding War happened, which was fought with effectively WW1 tech... except for Felisia, which was working on early WW2 era stuff. There's a reason the megacorporation that started as a weapons manufacturer is in modern day spoken of in Felisia with the same reverence as the Queen of England is in Canada :smalltongue:.

Kai-gah. Two syllables. I believe that is the pronunciation anyway.

And interesting questions; historically Exova used to be a loose coalition of barony's called Setra- but due to Felisian expansion banded together under a more tightly nit coalition republic. This initiative was spearheaded by the Exovan family house, whose name has... unknown in modern era routes (spoilers it is demons), but the name was applied to the country and it stuck. The idea is that each region of what is modern day Exova would have been a whole bunch of names and territories, constantly in-fighting, and each named after the baron of that territory.

Trestaria, likewise, originally didn't have that name- in the olden days it was called the Tresian Dunes by Felisia, and the actual Tresian people called the three regions Trestaria was made up from by different, appropriate names for the cultures (Trestaria is basically divided between India, the Arab Kingdoms, and Persia culturally). Further another, a merchantile nation started to grow itself from ex-pat Felisians, who called the place Trestaria, based on the Tresian Dune name, and eventually unified everyone under them.

Dulace is, as said above, formerly Pagos (which DOES fit the naming scheme of being Grecian). Felisian conquered it, language drift happened, etc etc.. Felisia was changed by this as well, and eventually adopted the modern form of English as its language, thus the mix of Felisian (French) and Dulacean (English) names.

The squares are land marks. Center City is home to the ONY Tower, which is the seat of power of the aforementioned big megacorp. The one in Kaiga is the massive distributary system that has made that segment of Kaiga into a spider-web of rivers. The one in Dulace is a Stonehenge like structure- a chunk of exposed permafrost that resembles a ruined city. There's only three because... I couldn't think of any more, eheheh.

The holy sites (the big bay that is the Spiritus Finalis, the crater in the Setran Shield that is Gotts Anteil, and the shrine on top of Mt Shizukesa, are all caretaked by the appropriate religious groups, with support from the local government. There's only three because there's functionally only three religions, though they're of course divided into minute sects and stuff. You'd probably like the Silver Choir, one of their religious holidays has shades and inspiration from Arbour Day.

Rater202
2022-09-06, 05:54 PM
There are multible episodes of the Simpsons that have a plot pooint of Lisa feeling neglected in favor of Bart of Maggie. Quality of these episodes ceries, as is how "reasonble" whatever it is that spakred these feelings... But I have trouble talking them seriously.

I remember Lisa's Sax. I remember the entire family and Bart's Psychologist neglecting Bart's crippling depression in favor of praising Lisa and nurturing her apparent gifts.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 05:59 PM
There are multible episodes of the Simpsons that have a plot pooint of Lisa feeling neglected in favor of Bart of Maggie. Quality of these episodes ceries, as is how "reasonble" whatever it is that spakred these feelings... But I have trouble talking them seriously.

I remember Lisa's Sax. I remember the entire family and Bart's Psychologist neglecting Bart's crippling depression in favor of praising Lisa and nurturing her apparent gifts.

The same could be said in reverse if you care more about the other character.

It's safe to say, I feel, that as bad as the Simpsons are as a family, the neglect is not focused on one character, just... occasionally, and more noticeably if you care.

Lord Raziere
2022-09-06, 06:33 PM
dammit I had great analysis/thoughts for Zodi's map but I lost it when i accidentally clicked off. UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGh :smallfurious:

try to remake it/cliff notes:
-culture ideas of sci-fi pulp different due to not having other continents and thus tropes like explorers and such not come up
-water city science fiction and alt universe fiction with more continents might be popular
-any nation would be devastated by a hurricane coming by
-people might have myths about islands and the only continent being there, think islands are broken off from bad things being done in olden times.
-sizes of former nations ridiculous, all of them bigger than texas, other size comparisons like uuuuuuh Dulace being the distance from washington to minnesota of the Kaiga delta river area being about the size of california

grumble grumble, this is nowhere near as detailed as what I wanted to post, but now I'm frustrated.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 07:44 PM
dammit I had great analysis/thoughts for Zodi's map but I lost it when i accidentally clicked off. UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGh :smallfurious:

try to remake it/cliff notes:
-culture ideas of sci-fi pulp different due to not having other continents and thus tropes like explorers and such not come up
-water city science fiction and alt universe fiction with more continents might be popular
-any nation would be devastated by a hurricane coming by
-people might have myths about islands and the only continent being there, think islands are broken off from bad things being done in olden times.
-sizes of former nations ridiculous, all of them bigger than texas, other size comparisons like uuuuuuh Dulace being the distance from washington to minnesota of the Kaiga delta river area being about the size of california

grumble grumble, this is nowhere near as detailed as what I wanted to post, but now I'm frustrated.

The forum tends to save stuff like this. Do you think it might have been saved? That's a shame v_v. That being said, I've responses!

I've definitely though about all of these! Like, a lot!

- Yup! Explorers as we know them aren't really a thing within this series. More a focus on people hunting down specific things that are known but rare, not "going to find new things".
- Adding to that (and this is something that'll get brought up in the books later); despite the modern day stuff having electric cars and stuff being a more common and reasonable thing, they haven't ever gone to space- the only stuff in the sky are stars, the sun, and the moon. There's WAY more undersea adventure stories.
- I'm actually not sure any places in this country would have hurricanes or tornados as common, but that's a good point.
- Yeah! I imagine some people might look at something like, the Spiritus Finalis and think of that sorta thing.
- I'm bad at sizes so that only slightly makes sense to me but sure!

Lord Raziere
2022-09-06, 08:16 PM
The forum tends to save stuff like this. Do you think it might have been saved? That's a shame v_v. That being said, I've responses!

I've definitely though about all of these! Like, a lot!

- Yup! Explorers as we know them aren't really a thing within this series. More a focus on people hunting down specific things that are known but rare, not "going to find new things".
- Adding to that (and this is something that'll get brought up in the books later); despite the modern day stuff having electric cars and stuff being a more common and reasonable thing, they haven't ever gone to space- the only stuff in the sky are stars, the sun, and the moon. There's WAY more undersea adventure stories.
- I'm actually not sure any places in this country would have hurricanes or tornados as common, but that's a good point.
- Yeah! I imagine some people might look at something like, the Spiritus Finalis and think of that sorta thing.
- I'm bad at sizes so that only slightly makes sense to me but sure!

well, it remembered some previous stupider post that wasn't important, unfortunately so....sigh....

okay to expand more as I try to remember:
-pirate fiction is probably not a thing, because no caribbean, no golden age of piracy, questionable if things like Star Trek or Indiana Jones are things, questionable if stuff set in space uses the naval space ship trope as much, like a lot of our military sci-fi uses naval metaphors and organization for what space fleets would be like and in this world navies wouldn't be as big so, its questionable if writers would use the same trope in your world. cowboys probably don't exist as a trope because no wild west. knights, samurai, probably still a thing though
-hard sci-fi probably has more naval battles and water cities and submarine stuff
-look, just do what I do: google a picture of the US, put this map and that map into the same digital art tool, then draw outlines of US States and the borders of the former nations over them, then overlay them on top of one another and you get a better idea of how large these things are. you might have to refit some of the borders for one map or another due to distortion though.
-the very face of social media is probably different, because colonialism didn't happen. (no wait social media might not exist, if no one has gone to space, then no one has launched satellites)
-oh right, their history is probably shorter than ours, because they wouldn't spend so much time trying to expand or settle new places, a lot of early human history is just humans spreading out, and a lot of human wars are fought to expand an empires borders to get resources. so they'd probably realize they can't expand anymore earlier and start inwardly working on other things earlier, because at some point they can't just settle or conquer some other place to solve their problems.

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 08:42 PM
well, it remembered some previous stupider post that wasn't important, unfortunately so....sigh....

okay to expand more as I try to remember:
-pirate fiction is probably not a thing, because no caribbean, no golden age of piracy, questionable if things like Star Trek or Indiana Jones are things, questionable if stuff set in space uses the naval space ship trope as much, like a lot of our military sci-fi uses naval metaphors and organization for what space fleets would be like and in this world navies wouldn't be as big so, its questionable if writers would use the same trope in your world. cowboys probably don't exist as a trope because no wild west. knights, samurai, probably still a thing though
-hard sci-fi probably has more naval battles and water cities and submarine stuff
-look, just do what I do: google a picture of the US, put this map and that map into the same digital art tool, then draw outlines of US States and the borders of the former nations over them, then overlay them on top of one another and you get a better idea of how large these things are. you might have to refit some of the borders for one map or another due to distortion though.
-the very face of social media is probably different, because colonialism didn't happen. (no wait social media might not exist, if no one has gone to space, then no one has launched satellites)
-oh right, their history is probably shorter than ours, because they wouldn't spend so much time trying to expand or settle new places, a lot of early human history is just humans spreading out, and a lot of human wars are fought to expand an empires borders to get resources. so they'd probably realize they can't expand anymore earlier and start inwardly working on other things earlier, because at some point they can't just settle or conquer some other place to solve their problems.

- I do think pirates exist- while there may not be a Caribbean, that is not exclusively the place pirates existed. Bandits can own boats, after all. You're right that naval stuff is less as prevelent of course. As said above, space fiction is almost exclusively substituted by underwater, 40k Leagues under the Sea type stuff. Indiana Jones like things might still exist, but be less "explorer" and more "finder of lost relics". Likewise with cowboys, while they are popularized by the "wild west", they are by no means invented by them. They are desert-clothes wearing travelers with a gun and a code, that's not that impossible to create (they're more of a Trestarian thing, in universe, by the way). Knights and samurai are definitely a thing- Kaiga's ancient samurai, Felisia and Exova's knights are definitely a thing, and the later two still have some remnants of that ancient time standing today. An age-old castle ruins used as a cafe, for instance.
- Yup!
- That's not really going to help me visualize size because theoretically any results could be obtained by doing that?
- Colonialism as it happened in the real world isn't a thing, but you best believe Felisia did some pretty bad stuff to the people of Dulace way back when. Similar, but different. Social media does also exist, there's no satellites but there are towers that operate on the same basic principle (it's all one continent so there's no NEED to circumnavigate the entire world to bounce signals around).
- Possibly true! There's a lot of influences and technically spoiler things that might make that somewhat inaccurate, but definitely worth thinking about!

Rater202
2022-09-06, 08:49 PM
Pop Culture Trivia: Per Immortal Hulk: The Time of Monsters, the first person to ever become a hulk was a young man named Tammuz who lived in what we know call Jorden in the year 9500 BCE.

To try and explain it clearly and shortly as possible: He lived in a village that fell into a state of crisis when a meteor containing highly radioactive materials crashed into the land and turned the bountiful area into a desolate hellscape. The leader of the village, a man named Adad, ascribed religious significance to it, claiming that the "Mother Goddess" the village worshiped had become displeased with them and picked out her "Good Green Eye" and cast it into the earth to curse them.

And when I say that the meteorite was highly radioactive.

Tammuz befriended Shalim, the son of Adad, and after concluding that Adad had lost his mind and was going to get the entire village killed squatting in the ruins of their homeland, made plans to run off and try to find somewhere else to live. Adad found out and, pissed and off, brought Tammuz to the crater that the Good Green Eye rested in, explained his theories about the eye... The in started explaining that he thought a sacrifice was necessary and that he was going to sacrifice Tammuz for tryin to steal his son away, then pushed him into the crater.

We then see just how radioactive the Good Green Eye was... When the heat and radiation it let off started boiling away Tammuz's flesh before he had time to die.

Tammuz did not stay dead, however, but came back transformed... Imbued with not only Hulk-Like strength, but superhuman intelligence and a degree of prescience: Not only was he smarter, but he knew exactly what he had to do to restore prosperity to the land not only for his own tribe but for all of the surrounding peoples and upon regaining consciousness set out immediately to do so.

Unfortunately, his Hulk form was a little... Animalistic. And he found out too late that he had trouble talking in that form.

You see, Adad told the rest of the villages that Tammuz had voluntarily sacrificed himself... And then when a village scout reported that a strange beast had been seen in their lands he took at a sign of providence that his murder of Tammuz had pleased the Mother Goddess and had the villagers ride out to hunt the beast.

Tammuz was killed a second time by the hunters of his tribe, the killing blow struck by Shalim, while he was trying to dig into an underground reservoir of fresh water that hadn't been tainted by the fall out of the meteor impact. His body was then taken back to the village where he was butchered and eaten... Even after Shalim recognized Tammuz's birthmark and realized that the bast was Tammuz, he decided not to say anything.

Tammuz found himself in the Below Place, the Realm of the One Below All and the source of the "Secret Third Form of Light" that is the semi-magical form of Gamma Radiation that creates Hulks, he was confronted by the One Below All who gave its normal speech and when it got to the "My Weapon is Hate" part he said "I guess mine is too" and the Green Door opened and he walked through.

Tamuz's body flew back together, killing the entire village save for Shalim who did not eat any of his flesh. Shalim apologized, claiming he didn't recognize the beast as Tammuz until after he was dead. Tammuz thought it over, then elected to kill Shalim anyway.

The kicker: Tammuz was seeming without the rage issues, exaggerated negative impulses, or unveiling of repressed traits that later Hulks are known to struggle with. His thoght process after his first ressurection also indicated that the power he'd absorbed from the Good Green Eye had been purified to the point that it couldn't hurt anyone anymore(which we know is not the case for later Hulks) and his olny thoughts were about helping people.

All modern hulks are confirmed to have a single common ancestor. The implication is that Tammuz is that common ancestor and that despite coming from an Infernal Source Hulk owers were entirely benevolent until he made the deliberate choice to embrace hatred and seek vengeance and in doing so he doomed all of his descendants.

Mystic Muse
2022-09-06, 09:02 PM
So one might say...

He struck Shalim down in his hatred, and his journey to the dark side was complete?

I'm not sorry.

Rater202
2022-09-06, 09:11 PM
So one might say...

He struck Shalim down in his hatred, and his journey to the dark side was complete?

I'm not sorry. I don't think that was he llusion they were going for... I'm no sure I'm allowed to explaint he allusions they were going for actually, but... Yeah, basically.

Incidentally, this is what I consider to be a "good" Anti-Revenge story.

I don't think you can argue that Tammuz wasn't justified. Adad murdered him in cold blood out of a combination of spite and delusion, the rest of the village murdered him again while he was trying to help them due to misunderstanding and buying into Adad's lies and delusions, and Shalim let his body be butchered and cannibalized despite recognizing him.

And Shalim, the one who betrayed him most directly, was the only one he deliberatly killed. The rest died as a consequence of his flesh being in their stomachs when he was resurrected. And this was like, over six thousand years before the start of the Bronze Age. Justice was "if someone hurts you or yours, you hurt them back."

He was justified... But there were forces at play that he didn't understand and so his taking vengeance had consequences not just for him but for everyone who came after him.

Lord Raziere
2022-09-06, 09:15 PM
@ Zodi:
y'know what? that sounds like the Bioshock aesthetic would be more prevalent in fiction then. like you'd just have Bioshock clones all over the place for a while.

@ Rater:
bleh. bad. comic books really needs to stop putting stuff like that into comic books about superheroes punching dudes. they're not being deep, they're just inserting spiritual logic where it doesn't make sense.

enderlord99
2022-09-06, 09:20 PM
he doomed all of his descendants.

Except maybe Doc Samson, right?

Rater202
2022-09-06, 09:24 PM
@ Rater:
bleh. bad. comic books really needs to stop putting stuff like that into comic books about superheroes punching dudes. they're not being deep, they're just inserting spiritual logic where it doesn't make sense.

Raz, there's been spiritual logic and religious symbolism in superhero comics since the 1940s. Some stories are just more honest about it.

Also, Immortal Hulk is one of the most widely regarded and well-written Hulk storylines of the last good long while. Deep exploration of Bruce's psyche and lots of deep cuts to the decades of history that preface it. My summary of that one issue is not doing it justice.
Except maybe Doc Samson, right?

Samson has his own issues to deal with. Mostly related to arrogance and Foot-in-Mouth syndrome. Not every Hulk has Bruce-level issues, but they all have issues to work with.

(Their issues aren't even necessarily a bad thing, in a vacuum. The Red Hulk brings out General Ross's repressed better nature, the parts of himself that he thinks get in the way of doing what needs to be done.)

LaZodiac
2022-09-06, 09:27 PM
@ Zodi:
y'know what? that sounds like the Bioshock aesthetic would be more prevalent in fiction then. like you'd just have Bioshock clones all over the place for a while.

@ Rater:
bleh. bad. comic books really needs to stop putting stuff like that into comic books about superheroes punching dudes. they're not being deep, they're just inserting spiritual logic where it doesn't make sense.

That's honestly hilarious a thought. Underwater steam-punk fantasy replaces space fantasy, so... She-ra in a long-coat with a magic steam-sword, I guess?

I don't usually mind when comics go super extensive with like, secret deep lore stuff, but the Hulk having like a... progenitor strain or something is such a weird concept to me. I've always preferred when it was focused on the human psyche through Banner. I've always sorta felt the idea of the Hulk was that everyone had that sorta side of them; anyone can be The Hulk, which is a fascinating contrast to "everyone can be Spider-man"

Mystic Muse
2022-09-06, 09:27 PM
I don't think that was he llusion they were going for... I'm no sure I'm allowed to explaint he allusions they were going for actually, but... Yeah, basically.

I've been looking at giant Star Wars lego sets, and Star Wars memes, you will have to forgive me for making a very obvious Star Wars reference. :smallbiggrin:

Rater202
2022-09-06, 09:36 PM
I don't usually mind when comics go super extensive with like, secret deep lore stuff, but the Hulk having like a... progenitor strain or something is such a weird concept to me. I've always preferred when it was focused on the human psyche through Banner. I've always sorta felt the idea of the Hulk was that everyone had that sorta side of them; anyone can be The Hulk, which is a fascinating contrast to "everyone can be Spider-man"

Ohno, the exploration of the human psyche is still very much a thing here.

This is more... Hulk-powers turn you into a metaphor for your own issues and hangups. Bruce's repressed anger explodes out and triggers the manifestation of his rather severe Dissociative Identity Disorder. Samual Stern's bitterness over his learning disability manifests in him becoming the smartest man int he world... But he has to wear a neck brace lest he break his neck under the weight of his mighty brain. Jen is more or less stable but is sexually repressed and shy, so she becomes confident and sexually liberated... And finds herself not wanting to change back if she can help it, her Hulk Form becoming a crutch.

She also runs into other issues when she gets traumatized and doesn't get better until she deals with those issues.

This is more an explantion for why hulk powers work like that when other powers don't.

Lord Raziere
2022-09-06, 09:37 PM
Raz, there's been spiritual logic and religious symbolism in superhero comics since the 1940s. Some stories are just more honest about it.

Also, Immortal Hulk is one of the most widely regarded and well-written Hulk storylines of the last good long while. Deep exploration of Bruce's psyche and lots of deep cuts to the decades of history that preface it. My summary of that one issue is not doing it justice.


Its more of a "I see what specific trope its doing and I don't like that specific trope, but I can't say it because it would be discussing religion" kind of thing, so thats the closest I can say.

Rater202
2022-09-06, 09:40 PM
Its more of a "I see what specific trope its doing and I don't like that specific trope, but I can't say it because it would be discussing religion" kind of thing, so thats the closest I can say.
Fair enough.

Peelee
2022-09-06, 09:54 PM
I've been looking at giant Star Wars lego sets, and Star Wars memes, you will have to forgive me for making a very obvious Star Wars reference. :smallbiggrin:

Forgive you? I'm openly encouraging you!

Rater202
2022-09-06, 10:10 PM
I asked this on another forum but I'll ask it here, too.

You are trying to style on people who believe themselves to be perfect and seem to be pathologically obsessed with having stuff without necessarily using that stuff.

Assuming that Barbie Doll Anatomy is in play, what's the bigger power move: Adoring yourself in subtly stylish but highly functional armor... Or just showing up to the fight naked because you have nothing to cover up and no need for protection from their attacks nor the elements.

enderlord99
2022-09-06, 10:27 PM
I asked this on another forum but I'll ask it here, too.

You are trying to style on people who believe themselves to be perfect and seem to be pathologically obsessed with having stuff without necessarily using that stuff.

Assuming that Barbie Doll Anatomy is in play, what's the bigger power move: Adoring yourself in subtly stylish but highly functional armor... Or just showing up to the fight naked because you have nothing to cover up and no need for protection from their attacks nor the elements.

Definitely the latter.

Regardless of whether "stuff" means "material possessions" or "genitals"

Mystic Muse
2022-09-06, 10:31 PM
Forgive you? I'm openly encouraging you!

To make Star Wars references, or to window shop Lego sets I can't afford right now? :smalltongue:

Rater202
2022-09-06, 10:46 PM
Definitely the latter.

Regardless of whether "stuff" means "material possessions" or "genitals"
Material possessions.

The characters in question collect treasure like Smaug and walk around 24/7 in the gaudiest crap thinking it's a show of status and wealth. That **** only flies at a gala, for everyday wear it just makes you look like a jackass.

My thought, for either option, is a "less is more" approch.

Peelee
2022-09-06, 11:23 PM
I asked this on another forum but I'll ask it here, too.

You are trying to style on people who believe themselves to be perfect and seem to be pathologically obsessed with having stuff without necessarily using that stuff.

Assuming that Barbie Doll Anatomy is in play, what's the bigger power move: Adoring yourself in subtly stylish but highly functional armor... Or just showing up to the fight naked because you have nothing to cover up and no need for protection from their attacks nor the elements.
I don't understand this question. What is "styling on"? What does "barbie doll anatomy" have to do with it? Why am I suddenly fighting them?

To make Star Wars references, or to window shop Lego sets I can't afford right now? :smalltongue:

Both, but if I must choose one, the former.

enderlord99
2022-09-06, 11:32 PM
My thought, for either option, is a "less is more" approch.

I agree, yes... and you can't exactly wear less than nothing, so that means wearing nothing.

Rater202
2022-09-06, 11:52 PM
I don't understand this question. What is "styling on"? What does "barbie doll anatomy" have to do with it? Why am I suddenly fighting them?

There is a Jumpchain document based on a rather infamously bad fanfic.

I have been convinced to read said story... And it offends me on many levels.

The protagonists are narcissistic psychopaths who get praised by the narrative for doing things that the antagonists are condemned for, the antagonists are cartoonishly cliched villains who are evil for the sake of being evil, and everyone else is a god-damned idiot. It is a fractal of offensive in every way you can imagine.

So I'm doing a chain about a real super villain, someone competent with a sense of style and decorum and who is aware that they're a villain, coming into the setting, foiling the protagonists' evil plot while showing the antagonists how it's done.

(I am far from the first person to do this kind of thing, mind you.)

I ended up with a lot more points on my first jump than I thought I would, and was able to pick up a copy of Captain Atom's power.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Captain_Atom_%28CAFU%27s_art%29.png
Tha'ts not a costume, that's his skin, and it's part of his power.

Part of the goal of the chain is a less is more approach to items: Th protagonist of the story the Jump Doc is based on invests a lot of value in having stuff, lots and lots of items that have to be the best(IE, fanciest and most expensive) items while walking around in the gaudiest ****ing outfits as every day wear, but hardly ever uses any of it, so my Jumper was going to have only a handful of tools that, while subtly stylish, would have a great deal of practical value. The kind of thing you use on a regular basis.

And since I was able to grab the extra power, I don't think my Jumper needs armor—no need for protection, nothing to cover up—so now I'm wondering if having them without would be a better power move.

Lord Raziere
2022-09-07, 12:19 AM
I asked this on another forum but I'll ask it here, too.

You are trying to style on people who believe themselves to be perfect and seem to be pathologically obsessed with having stuff without necessarily using that stuff.

Assuming that Barbie Doll Anatomy is in play, what's the bigger power move: Adoring yourself in subtly stylish but highly functional armor... Or just showing up to the fight naked because you have nothing to cover up and no need for protection from their attacks nor the elements.

Naked definitely. you are the weapon and you have no need of all the stuff that they uselessly hoard, get wrecked.

@ Peelee:
if you don't understand the internet thing of "styling on" them, its basically achieving victory in a way that makes a statement.

like say your in Dark souls pvp, and someone rolls up in practical armor and beats you with a fully upgraded weapon. thats normal, thats a defeat but that isn't really styling on you.

If however, someone in dark souls pvp comes and beats you while naked and with some bad weapon, THATS styling on you because they're making a statement about how they don't need to be optimal to beat you, because they are that skilled.

people do this because sometimes its not about achieving victory, its about sending a message.

Fyraltari
2022-09-07, 01:12 AM
Tammuz [...] Adad [...] Shalim

Somebody should really tell Marvel Comics to leave other people's religions alone.

Rater202
2022-09-07, 01:52 AM
Somebody should really tell Marvel Comics to leave other people's religions alone.That ship sailed when Donald Blake found Mjolnir.

Though in this case the names are only an allusion. Tammuz is not meant to be the Tammuz.

Fyraltari
2022-09-07, 02:24 AM
That ship sailed when Donald Blake found Mjolnir.
That's not a reason to keep going!


Though in this case the names are only an allusion. Tammuz is not meant to be the Tammuz.
Yeah, sure.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-07, 03:26 AM
I asked this on another forum but I'll ask it here, too.

You are trying to style on people who believe themselves to be perfect and seem to be pathologically obsessed with having stuff without necessarily using that stuff.

Assuming that Barbie Doll Anatomy is in play, what's the bigger power move: Adoring yourself in subtly stylish but highly functional armor... Or just showing up to the fight naked because you have nothing to cover up and no need for protection from their attacks nor the elements.

Woad. Definitely woad. But like, really badly applied.


To make Star Wars references, or to window shop Lego sets I can't afford right now? :smalltongue:

Bah, the latter is just being an adult.

... I want the Monkis Kid set with like six different Wukongs.


Material possessions.

The characters in question collect treasure like Smaug and walk around 24/7 in the gaudiest crap thinking it's a show of status and wealth. That **** only flies at a gala, for everyday wear it just makes you look like a jackass.

My thought, for either option, is a "less is more" approch.

For some reason I'm now imagine Lofwyr covered in white gold and gems.

Still more stylish than what you described.


Somebody should really tell Marvel Comics to leave other people's religions alone.

You think that's bad? Image did an entire series where Amaterasu was white. Although on the plus side all the gods were like super gay.

Fyraltari
2022-09-07, 08:55 AM
I've just watched in theater a movie serving as a sequel to a show that began on YouTube 11 years ago, made by a bunch of friends with basically no budget.

Pretty surreal experience.

LaZodiac
2022-09-07, 09:03 AM
I've just watched in theater a movie serving as a sequel to a show that began on YouTube 11 years ago, made by a bunch of friends with basically no budget.

Pretty surreal experience.

And you're not gonna tell us what it is? Come on, spill the deets!

Metastachydium
2022-09-07, 09:14 AM
I think something that might have been missed is that this is the most modern moment for this world map. The trains were not cross country a hundred years ago when the Founding War happened, which was fought with effectively WW1 tech... except for Felisia, which was working on early WW2 era stuff. There's a reason the megacorporation that started as a weapons manufacturer is in modern day spoken of in Felisia with the same reverence as the Queen of England is in Canada :smalltongue:.

Ah, so tried and tested technology against subpar prototypes! That only makes their success more impressive! Anyhow, stupid WARfare!Verse speculation was based on the current state of affairs, so I stand by my "Exova takes your capital!!" idea (I also disagree with Form on this; depending on the scale of things, conventional artillery can flip that bridge over and if it can't, missile artillery should still do just fine).


Kai-gah. Two syllables. I believe that is the pronunciation anyway.

Huh. I kind of thought the naming theme's Japanese-based, leaving little room for (quasi-)closed syllables.


The holy sites (the big bay that is the Spiritus Finalis, the crater in the Setran Shield that is Gotts Anteil, and the shrine on top of Mt Shizukesa, are all caretaked by the appropriate religious groups, with support from the local government. There's only three because there's functionally only three religions, though they're of course divided into minute sects and stuff.

Makes sense! "It's ethnoreligious groups everywhere" would be lazy writing I FROWN upon.


You'd probably like the Silver Choir, one of their religious holidays has shades and inspiration from Arbour Day.

[SQUEEs.]


Somebody should really tell Marvel Comics to leave other people's religions alone.

Make that "leave people's religions alone", perhaps.

Peelee
2022-09-07, 09:16 AM
There is a Jumpchain document


like say your in Dark souls pvp,

Ok, I'm gonna need y'all to assume I'm way older than you think. Like, overestimating is probably better in this case.

Fyraltari
2022-09-07, 09:21 AM
And you're not gonna tell us what it is? Come on, spill the deets!

https://fr.web.img5.acsta.net/r_512_288/pictures/22/08/23/14/53/3574724.jpg

Here is the first episode if you're curious. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wtGLc_Fvf0&list=PLFD075FAE2C2288FE)

Edit: it was pretty good (which is somewhat refreshing for modern French sci-fi) and rather than assume you've seen the show, takes the time to reintroduce its central premise, the cast and their relationship.

Rater202
2022-09-07, 09:29 AM
Ok, I'm gonna need y'all to assume I'm way older than you think. Like, overestimating is probably better in this case.

A game/writing prompt type thing I play arond with has an option to go into the world of a really, really bad fanfic. Like, offensively bad. Fractally offensive.

One I have been convinced to read and...

Since going there is an option, I'm building a narrative about going there as a proper Super Villain and showing up both the narcissistic psychopaths who are the protagonists and the cliche "evil for the sake of evil, utterly incompetent except when the plot says otherwise" antagonists.

Not just curb stomping them, which would be easy enough, but punching through their plot armor, tearing down their plans around them when they're moments away from victory, and showing the arrogant, jumped up, guady trinket obsessed twerps how petty and insignificant they really are.

I'm not sure what kind of villain yet, whether I'm gonna play it straight or if it's just someone embracing the role for funzies. Gonna figure that out along the way.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-07, 09:39 AM
I've just watched in theater a movie serving as a sequel to a show that began on YouTube 11 years ago, made by a bunch of friends with basically no budget.

Pretty surreal experience.

Oh god, please tell me there isn't another Fred movie.


https://fr.web.img5.acsta.net/r_512_288/pictures/22/08/23/14/53/3574724.jpg

Here is the first episode if you're curious. (https://youtube/1wtGLc_Fvf0)

Edit: it was pretty good (which is somewhat refreshing for modern French sci-fi) and rather than assume you've seen the show, takes the time to reintroduce its central premise, the cast and their relationship.

Phew. Looks interesting, although unfortunately I don't speak French.

Using my cunning powers of deduction I'm going to assume that the central premise is that somebody has arrived in [setting year] from [future year]. It's French so somebody probably isn't wearing clothes at some point, but there's a 1:1 chance of them being either binary gender option.

Fyraltari
2022-09-07, 09:49 AM
Oh god, please tell me there isn't another Fred movie.
Fred?




Phew. Looks interesting, although unfortunately I don't speak French.
No idea if there's an international release planned. Doubt it.
The first two seasons are dubbed in English.


Using my cunning powers of deduction I'm going to assume that the central premise is that somebody has arrived in [setting year] from [future year].
Close. The Visitor comes from the post-apocalyptic future and attempts to change the past (well present from our perspective) so there's no zombies and whatnot. The antagonists are trying to stop him to preserve the timespace continuum or for fear of being erased depending (when your parents met in a shelter from the zombies the idea of erasing zombies from the timeline isn't exactly appealing) also he and his friends aren't very bright and their meddling tends to create additional problems.


It's French so somebody probably isn't wearing clothes at some point,
Swing and a miss!

enderlord99
2022-09-07, 09:56 AM
It's French so somebody probably isn't wearing clothes at some point


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDwsiqQa1pw

LaZodiac
2022-09-07, 10:03 AM
Ah, so tried and tested technology against subpar prototypes! That only makes their success more impressive! Anyhow, stupid WARfare!Verse speculation was based on the current state of affairs, so I stand by my "Exova takes your capital!!" idea (I also disagree with Form on this; depending on the scale of things, conventional artillery can flip that bridge over and if it can't, missile artillery should still do just fine).

Huh. I kind of thought the naming theme's Japanese-based, leaving little room for (quasi-)closed syllables.

Makes sense! "It's ethnoreligious groups everywhere" would be lazy writing I FROWN upon.

[SQUEEs.]

Hehe. Nothing too outlandish, we're talking the bread and butter here. Machine rifles vs more rustic guns, and better airforce (a completely untouched area in all of you armchair generals, by the way, which is amusing to me :smallbiggrin:)

I've been informed that I was wrong and it is tri-syllabic... but also it could sound like "Kai-gah" when spoken due to how mouth sounds work. Everyone was correct and no one was wrong, we were just discussing different things! It is Japanese based, I'm just very much the laymen.

Yeah! The Trestarian province doesn't even have a cultural religion, instead focusing any particular holiday traditions on like, friendship bonds. There's a variety of religious groups within the setting, though the primary three that a lot of these groups branch off from worship the Creator, the Smith, and the Painter.

I see I was correct, hehehe. They see the Creator as a gardener, someone who gently tends nature and the world, and thus humanity as well. Her logo that the group takes their name from is the Argent Chalice, a life giving cup. Very cool!


https://fr.web.img5.acsta.net/r_512_288/pictures/22/08/23/14/53/3574724.jpg

Here is the first episode if you're curious. (https://youtube/1wtGLc_Fvf0)

Edit: it was pretty good (which is somewhat refreshing for modern French sci-fi) and rather than assume you've seen the show, takes the time to reintroduce its central premise, the cast and their relationship.

Oooh, that looks cool!

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-07, 10:08 AM
Fred?

It's a YouTube thing from the late noughties which somehow managed to get three films. Do yourself a favour and don't watch it.


No idea if there's an international release planned. Doubt it.
The first two seasons are dubbed in English.

Well I'll definitely check them out.


Close. The Visitor comes from the post-apocalyptic future and attempts to change the past (well present from our perspective) so there's no zombies and whatnot. The antagonists are trying to stop him to preserve the timespace continuum or for fear of being erased depending (when your parents met in a shelter from the zombies the idea of erasing zombies from the timeline isn't exactly appealing) also he and his friends aren't very bright and their meddling tends to create additional problems.

Yes, but I can't get that from abusing the fact that English is partially descended from French to translate the title.


Swing and a miss!

Stop destroying my preconceived notions of French cinema! :smalltongue:

Rater202
2022-09-07, 10:18 AM
It's a YouTube thing from the late noughties which somehow managed to get three films. Do yourself a favour and don't watch it.

I found out about Fred from when he/the creator of the videos had a guest appearance on an episode of iCarly back when that was airing new.

The episode framed it as him being this cool and funny guy we were supposed to like but looking at his actions in the episode objectively he was a drama king who used the main characters of the show to get himself more publicity without their permission and the way he did so bordered on cyberbullying.

He justified it by saying that it was good for the protagonist's web show too but...

Yeah.

LaZodiac
2022-09-07, 10:22 AM
I found out about Fred from when he/the creator of the videos had a guest appearance on an episode of iCarly back when that was airing new.

The episode framed it as him being this cool and funny guy we were supposed to like but looking at his actions in the episode objectively he was a drama king who used the main characters of the show to get himself more publicity without their permission and the way he did so bordered on cyberbullying.

He justified it by saying that it was good for the protagonist's web show too but...

Yeah.

I learned about Fred from a 5ish hour video about iCarly, then watched a 3ish hour long video focused purely on the character himself, which feels the most normal way to learn about this to be quite honest.

Keltest
2022-09-07, 10:25 AM
I found out about Fred from when he/the creator of the videos had a guest appearance on an episode of iCarly back when that was airing new.

The episode framed it as him being this cool and funny guy we were supposed to like but looking at his actions in the episode objectively he was a drama king who used the main characters of the show to get himself more publicity without their permission and the way he did so bordered on cyberbullying.

He justified it by saying that it was good for the protagonist's web show too but...

Yeah.

Thats where I heard about it too. Even as a kid that seemed incredibly wrong, given the actual assaults on the character in question.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-07, 10:35 AM
I found out about Fred from when he/the creator of the videos had a guest appearance on an episode of iCarly back when that was airing new.


I learned about Fred from a 5ish hour video about iCarly, then watched a 3ish hour long video focused purely on the character himself, which feels the most normal way to learn about this to be quite honest.

You two are lucky. I learnt about Fred by watching Fred.

Fyraltari
2022-09-07, 10:37 AM
This is much funnier if I just assume y'all are talking about Fred from Scooby-Doo.

LaZodiac
2022-09-07, 10:40 AM
You two are lucky. I learnt about Fred by watching Fred.

What a cursed existence.


This is much funnier if I just assume y'all are talking about Fred from Scooby-Doo.

I personally always think of Mystery INC. Fred when the character gets brought up and the idea of this big dumb lovable hunk making videos about proper trap making technique videos is hilarious and adorable.

The comment section is littered with people into bdsm who he truly just, does not understand what they're talking about but appreciates the enthusiasm of it.

Keltest
2022-09-07, 10:50 AM
You two are lucky. I learnt about Fred by watching Fred.

My deepest sympathies.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-07, 11:21 AM
This is much funnier if I just assume y'all are talking about Fred from Scooby-Doo.

If only Fred had such sanity!

Beeftank
2022-09-07, 11:38 AM
I never understood the appeal of that guy. And I was a young teenager during the YouTube heyday of the late 00s who loved Smosh, so it wasn’t as if I was predisposed to disliking amateur videos with juvenile humor.

Keltest
2022-09-07, 01:10 PM
I never understood the appeal of that guy. And I was a young teenager during the YouTube heyday of the late 00s who loved Smosh, so it wasn’t as if I was predisposed to disliking amateur videos with juvenile humor.

Based on the failure of the movies, I suspect the answer is that there wasn't appeal and people just kind of chuckled and moved on.

Peelee
2022-09-07, 01:42 PM
Based on the failure of the movies, I suspect the answer is that there wasn't appeal and people just kind of chuckled and moved on.

Hearing about the movie was my first exposure to the character. Though from a quick and dirty Google search, the phrase "Fred: The Movie is the first installment in the Fred trilogy" exists.

Lord Raziere
2022-09-07, 02:45 PM
Ok, I'm gonna need y'all to assume I'm way older than you think. Like, overestimating is probably better in this case.

Okay.

Imagine that your a caveman and that you want to kill another caveman

Sure you can take them out with some practical method like a spear while they are using a spear, your more likely to be victorious, sure.

But now imagine you kill him with like, one hand tied behind your back using only a bone knife or something with an extra flourish. thats impractical sure but if you pull it off, that like says that you don't need no big spear, that your cool enough to use a worse weapon and still win. making a statement about how much better you are through the method of WHICH you win.

or imagine a Jedi defeating a Sith without ever drawing their lightsaber using only dodging.

thats how you style on someone.

Peelee
2022-09-07, 02:59 PM
Okay.

Imagine that your a caveman and that you want to kill another caveman

Sure you can take them out with some practical method like a spear while they are using a spear, your more likely to be victorious, sure.

But now imagine you kill him with like, one hand tied behind your back using only a bone knife or something with an extra flourish. thats impractical sure but if you pull it off, that like says that you don't need no big spear, that your cool enough to use a worse weapon and still win. making a statement about how much better you are through the method of WHICH you win.

or imagine a Jedi defeating a Sith without ever drawing their lightsaber using only dodging.

thats how you style on someone.

Caveman analogy helped. Thank.

Unga bunga.

Jasdoif
2022-09-07, 04:18 PM
You are trying to style on people who believe themselves to be perfect and seem to be pathologically obsessed with having stuff without necessarily using that stuff.

Assuming that Barbie Doll Anatomy is in play, what's the bigger power move: Adoring yourself in subtly stylish but highly functional armor... Or just showing up to the fight naked because you have nothing to cover up and no need for protection from their attacks nor the elements.The former. You're so confident that you'll employ material possessions like armor despite the armor actually being less resilient than you are; "style over substance" takes on a different dimension when you, personally, are the substance. Bonus points if it's something like gloryborn armor, that appears incomplete (showing off the wearer's physique) without actually sacrificing effectiveness.

2D8HP
2022-09-07, 04:24 PM
It's French so somebody probably isn't wearing clothes at some point Swing and a miss!

@Anonymouswizard,

For a recent-ish French film that did have some (brief) nudity (unless you count the burro, then not brief) I recommend: My Donkey, My Lover, and I (2020/2022) A.K.A. Antoinette dans les Cévennes, romantic comedy in a rural French setting which I saw with my favorite lady.

Watchable? Yes, the French countryside is very pretty, and the film is amusing. Basically a French school teacher is pining for the father of one of her students and rents a donkey to travel the Cévennes mountains (like Robert Louis Stevenson did in the 19th century) because he’s doing the same, and she’s stalking him.

Inspire romance? No! My viewing companion identified strongly with the lead character and when said character is confronted by the wife of the man she is chasing my viewing companion started bawling, as she did again at the end when the lead character says goodbye to the donkey she rented (which is a scene that’s clearly set up so she can meet a more appropriate guy and the audience can hope for a happy ending for all the characters. Save this one for watching with those you only hope to have platonic relationships with, it’s actually fun, but will kill any romantic desires your viewing companions may have. A better than average solo movie (if my companion wasn’t crying I’d be smiling), a worse than average date movie (‘cause of the crying). It suffers from one lead being a ditz (it is a comedy) and the object of her desire being obviously unworthy (despite her telling the donkey details of why she loves the guy). If it wasn’t for a love scene (and implied ones) this would actually be a good children’s movie (‘cause of cute animals), otherwise it’s a cute yet another “Don’t be with an inappropriate guy” message movie, which is only a good date movie if you’re an appropriate guy (which is too high a bar for me dagnabit)!

Mystic Muse
2022-09-07, 09:44 PM
Fun situation with work

Us: Okay, you can either have Respondus Lockdown Browser on the machine, or we can support the machine remotely.

Client: Can't we have both?

Us: No, the programs are incompatible. You have to choose one or the other.

Client: Isn't there a workaround?

Us: No. Respondus lockdown browser will not launch if our tool is enabled on the system, and we can't disable it every time she needs to take a test. You have to choose one or the other.

Client: Can you use Microsoft Teams instead when you need to get into her computer?

Us: No, our Remote management tool does patch management, security and communication. Teams offers none of this. You have to choose.

Jasdoif
2022-09-07, 10:45 PM
Fun situation with work

Us: Okay, you can either have Respondus Lockdown Browser on the machine, or we can support the machine remotely.

Client: Can't we have both?

Us: No, the programs are incompatible. You have to choose one or the other.

Client: Isn't there a workaround?

Us: No. Respondus lockdown browser will not launch if our tool is enabled on the system, and we can't disable it every time she needs to take a test. You have to choose one or the other.

Client: Can you use Microsoft Teams instead when you need to get into her computer?

Us: No, our Remote management tool does patch management, security and communication. Teams offers none of this. You have to choose.I know the feeling....


"Can you tell us who submitted this anonymous suggestion?"
"No, anonymous suggestions are anonymous."
"Even though only a limited set of users can access the page to submit suggestions?"
"Correct; anonymous suggestions are submitted anonymously."
"Aren't the suggestions created by the user's account?"
"No; all suggestions are created by a service account, to make the anonymous suggestions anonymous."
"But aren't requests for the submission page tracked?"
"No; the submission page does not log user information, to keep the anonymous suggestions anonymous."

Ionathus
2022-09-08, 09:13 AM
I know the feeling....

"Can you tell us who submitted this anonymous suggestion?"
"No, anonymous suggestions are anonymous."
"Even though only a limited set of users can access the page to submit suggestions?"
"Correct; anonymous suggestions are submitted anonymously."
"Aren't the suggestions created by the user's account?"
"No; all suggestions are created by a service account, to make the anonymous suggestions anonymous."
"But aren't requests for the submission page tracked?"
"No; the submission page does not log user information, to keep the anonymous suggestions anonymous."

Dealing with this element at work right now, but in the opposite direction. We're trying to find a way to gather anonymous responses that people feel are actually anonymous: nobody trusts that the anonymous online form is actually anonymous though.

It doesn't help that one of the leadership team was recently going on about how he doesn't think we should need anonymous responses, because "we should all be able to trust each other and not worry about retaliation, c'mon guys, just blindly trust your managers to be impartial and open to constructive feedback! The only reason we'd need suggestions to be anonymous is if people are choosing not to trust management, and who could possibly do that? Golly, what a negative outlook." Yuck.

Jasdoif
2022-09-08, 12:18 PM
Dealing with this element at work right now, but in the opposite direction. We're trying to find a way to gather anonymous responses that people feel are actually anonymous: nobody trusts that the anonymous online form is actually anonymous though.

It doesn't help that one of the leadership team was recently going on about how he doesn't think we should need anonymous responses, because "we should all be able to trust each other and not worry about retaliation, c'mon guys, just blindly trust your managers to be impartial and open to constructive feedback! The only reason we'd need suggestions to be anonymous is if people are choosing not to trust management, and who could possibly do that? Golly, what a negative outlook." Yuck.It's a very understandable sentiment, assuming "able to trust each other" includes "worthy of that trust". But oddly enough (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3400/fc03348.htm), being trustworthy means being comfortable enough not to require other people's trust. It's the reason I insist the voting over in the Index of the Giant's Comments take place in the thread, so anyone can determine the final results themselves; of course (I believe) I'm trustworthy, but no one should have to take my word for it.

Peelee
2022-09-08, 12:38 PM
It's a very understandable sentiment, assuming "able to trust each other" includes "worthy of that trust". But oddly enough (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3400/fc03348.htm), being trustworthy means being comfortable enough not to require other people's trust. It's the reason I insist the voting over in the Index of the Giant's Comments take place in the thread, so anyone can determine the final results themselves; of course (I believe) I'm trustworthy, but no one should have to take my word for it.

This could also be done by postinga poll, but IIRC each poll only allows one question and requires a new thread so it's not a very convenient way to go about voting for that thread.

Jasdoif
2022-09-08, 12:43 PM
This could also be done by postinga poll, but IIRC each poll only allows one question and requires a new thread so it's not a very convenient way to go about voting for that thread.It doesn't seem like poll creation is enabled for standard user accounts, either.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-08, 12:45 PM
A period of national mourning has begun. Reports suggest that normal BBC programming will resume in a year once the memorial programming is finished.

The Archers will continue as normal.

Peelee
2022-09-08, 03:13 PM
It doesn't seem like poll creation is enabled for standard user accounts, either.

Huh. My powers seem to know no bound.

TaiLiu
2022-09-08, 10:16 PM
that is actually a network of rivers caused by a man-made water distributary system! Originally the river would just go long the merry path it had, but they set up a system that sends it all out into the plains!

Also there are more rivers than just those, I just haven't put them on the map because I'm not 100% perfect at that sorta thing (gonna trust the artist who will do the proper map for that one).
Oh yay, glad I got the artificial part right.


Well, I got rejected from the 99 Fleeting Fantasy short story collection. Didn't expect to make it in anyway so whatever.
Oo, applying anywhere else?


On the plus side I finished up the map for my novels, which I'd like you all to look at with your eyes thank you VuV (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451764779317723137/1016456752398598176/unknown.png)
I can confirm that I have experienced this with my eyeballs and brain. https://forums.giantitp.com/images/sand/icons/icon_thumbsup.png

LaZodiac
2022-09-08, 11:12 PM
Oh yay, glad I got the artificial part right.


Oo, applying anywhere else?


I can confirm that I have experienced this with my eyeballs and brain. https://forums.giantitp.com/images/sand/icons/icon_thumbsup.png

Yeah!

If I see one maybe. If anyone wants to read the story I did I posted it here. (https://www.tumblr.com/lazodiac/694601937019142144/applied-for-the-99-fleeting-fantasies-short-story?source=share) Tell me your thoughts!

Hell yeah! I hope you enjoyed looking at it.

Rater202
2022-09-09, 01:03 PM
I want to be an eldritch monstrosity that slithers ou from the shadows beneath people's beds and then helps them work through their psychological baggage.

An emotional support demon, if you will.

Form
2022-09-09, 01:11 PM
Yessss, there's a special bakery that's already selling kruidnoten well before Sinterklaas. They might actually be around all year long, which means I can have kruidnoten whenever I want! Without needing to order them online, that is.

Rater202
2022-09-09, 01:16 PM
kruidnoten

*googles*

*sees something delicious but with a high concentration of carbs and sugar*

*is disappoint*

Metastachydium
2022-09-09, 02:56 PM
I want to be an eldritch monstrosity that slithers ou from the shadows beneath people's beds and then helps them work through their psychological baggage.

An emotional support demon, if you will.

That is a noble (if weird, given the planned execution) sentiment, but (and please note that I'm not trying to be insensitive) are you sure you are adequately equipped to perform that duty for others?

Rater202
2022-09-09, 07:36 PM
That is a noble (if weird, given the planned execution) sentiment, but (and please note that I'm not trying to be insensitive) are you sure you are adequately equipped to perform that duty for others?

Probably not.

Doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice to be able to help people like that.

TaiLiu
2022-09-09, 09:11 PM
Yeah!

If I see one maybe. If anyone wants to read the story I did I posted it here. (https://www.tumblr.com/lazodiac/694601937019142144/applied-for-the-99-fleeting-fantasies-short-story?source=share) Tell me your thoughts!

Hell yeah! I hope you enjoyed looking at it.
Heads up that your blog has, like, a login wall. We can't see it (or at least I can't).

Yeah, it was great! Excited to see the final or near-final version. :>


I want to be an eldritch monstrosity that slithers ou from the shadows beneath people's beds and then helps them work through their psychological baggage.

An emotional support demon, if you will.
Kinda like a psychotherapist with more slithering. :smalltongue:

LaZodiac
2022-09-10, 08:21 AM
Heads up that your blog has, like, a login wall. We can't see it (or at least I can't).

Yeah, it was great! Excited to see the final or near-final version. :>


Kinda like a psychotherapist with more slithering. :smalltongue:

That's very strange and I don't know why that is. Tumblr is strange...

Qwertystop
2022-09-10, 09:21 AM
Yeah, no, you want this version of the link: https://lazodiac.tumblr.com/post/694601937019142144/applied-for-the-99-fleeting-fantasies-short-story

Rater202
2022-09-10, 09:24 AM
It's a well-written piece and a very interesting take a classic tale.

Manga Shoggoth
2022-09-10, 11:05 AM
Yeah, no, you want this version of the link: https://lazodiac.tumblr.com/post/694601937019142144/applied-for-the-99-fleeting-fantasies-short-story


It's a well-written piece and a very interesting take a classic tale.


Yes, a very nice take on a classic story...

...I ask, purely out of interest: Did you pick that story to adapt because the slang term for "guitar" is "axe"?

LaZodiac
2022-09-10, 12:54 PM
Yeah, no, you want this version of the link: https://lazodiac.tumblr.com/post/694601937019142144/applied-for-the-99-fleeting-fantasies-short-story

Thank you love I'm bad at tumblr I love you mwah.


It's a well-written piece and a very interesting take a classic tale.

Thanks! It's... really constraining to have to write between 500 to 1000 words so I'm glad it worked.


Yes, a very nice take on a classic story...

...I ask, purely out of interest: Did you pick that story to adapt because the slang term for "guitar" is "axe"?

Thanks! And yeah absolutely. I had the thought of "okay so guitars are axes, lets go from there".

Rater202
2022-09-10, 07:02 PM
I like how your protagonist isn't even tempted by the guitars of gold and silver. He needs a guitar for his gig but the old acoustic has sentimental value.

And then when the lady is offering the traditional reward for passing that test of character he just sort of... Befriends her instead.

The original story was about honesty and integrity but this shows a differant strength of character entirely and I like that.

The more I think about it, the more I like it.

LaZodiac
2022-09-11, 09:02 AM
I like how your protagonist isn't even tempted by the guitars of gold and silver. He needs a guitar for his gig but the old acoustic has sentimental value.

And then when the lady is offering the traditional reward for passing that test of character he just sort of... Befriends her instead.

The original story was about honesty and integrity but this shows a differant strength of character entirely and I like that.

The more I think about it, the more I like it.

Aw... that really means a lot to me. Thanks Rater.

I'm really glad people are enjoying it. I wasn't sure it was even good, when I sent it. So, thank you :smallsmile:

If I had had more space, there would have been a final coda about them playing at the gig, being decently popular, and serving as a test for others- with the idea being that some people liked their work, some didn't, but a few were inspired to create themselves. A sort of good ending twist of the original story showing a man, seeing the woodsmen with his many axes, going out to try and "force" the situation to happen for himself without understanding the core reason. I feel like that woulda really sealed it as a great story, but I ran out of space- so I'm glad people can still enjoy it with the hopeful ending of them being friends now.

Rater202
2022-09-11, 09:21 AM
Pop cultural trivia: DC's New Gods have access to a bit of technology called a Mother Box.

A supercomputer that varies in size from "a housing brick" to "a deck of cards," leaning towards the smaller size, a Mother Box draws her power directly from the Source of all Things, possesses omniscience in regard to a localized area, allows for the opening of portals between any two points in the universe or equivalent points between parallel universes, wirelessly interface with any tech the awakening of a unique power for each individual, and a variety of other abilities that add up together to amount to reality warping within that area previously defined area.

The Mother Box's computational power is enough to effortlessly hack a machine like Brainiac, her artificial intelligence is fully sapient, and a Mother Box feels nothing but unconditional love for the person she was created for.

Introduced in 1971 and consistantly treated as a common everyday appliance that everyone has, the Mother Box is thus the New God equivalent of a toaster.

enderlord99
2022-09-11, 09:23 AM
Toaster? Not smartphone?

Rater202
2022-09-11, 09:26 AM
Toaster? Not smartphone?

It was introduced in 1971.

Pong would not be released to the public till the following year. Personal computers were a distant, far-off dream.

A common everyday appliance would be a toaster or washing machine.

enderlord99
2022-09-11, 09:35 AM
It was introduced in 1971.

Pong would not be released to the public till the following year. Personal computers were a distant, far-off dream.

A common everyday appliance would be a toaster or washing machine.

I meant "mother boxes then (to a new god) are like smartphones now (to humans)"

Rater202
2022-09-11, 09:40 AM
I meant "mother boxes then (to a new god) are like smartphones now (to humans)"
Ah, fair enough.

Still, the toasters comparison is more accurate for how ubiquitous they are and the general level of New God tech.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-11, 10:08 AM
Pop cultural trivia: DC's New Gods have access to a bit of technology called a Mother Box.

A supercomputer that varies in size from "a housing brick" to "a deck of cards," leaning towards the smaller size, a Mother Box draws her power directly from the Source of all Things, possesses omniscience in regard to a localized area, allows for the opening of portals between any two points in the universe or equivalent points between parallel universes, wirelessly interface with any tech the awakening of a unique power for each individual, and a variety of other abilities that add up together to amount to reality warping within that area previously defined area.

The Mother Box's computational power is enough to effortlessly hack a machine like Brainiac, her artificial intelligence is fully sapient, and a Mother Box feels nothing but unconditional love for the person she was created for.

Introduced in 1971 and consistantly treated as a common everyday appliance that everyone has, the Mother Box is thus the New God equivalent of a toaster.

Oh wow, their computers are so powerful they kill plot. I have literally no clue why DC thought that would be a good idea.


It was introduced in 1971.

Pong would not be released to the public till the following year. Personal computers were a distant, far-off dream.

A common everyday appliance would be a toaster or washing machine.

We're about six years from the TRS-80 and a decade from the ZX-Spectrum. Personal computers are almost certainly foreseeable, although the projected timescale is likely off by decades. It also sounds surprisingly like what the conception of a PC would be, AI included.

A toaster is also a really bad comparison, it does literally one thing. I'd probably go for a range (oven+stovetop), multitool, or toolbox analogy

Rater202
2022-09-11, 10:27 AM
Oh wow, their computers are so powerful they kill plot. I have literally no clue why DC thought that would be a good idea.

Their range of control for everything but the portals is like, a foot-wide radius around the user.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-11, 10:42 AM
Their range of control for everything but the portals is like, a foot-wide radius around the user unlimited because I can open a bloody wormhole right next to me.

Fixed that limitation for you. Heck, even without that obvious hack it still just outright destroys plot.

enderlord99
2022-09-11, 10:46 AM
Since DC has a multiverse and also has splitting timelines as a distinct concept from said multiverse, I have a question about interaction between the two: are timelines and universes Intersectional (like in Dragon Ball Super) or Nested (like in Homestuck)?

Rater202
2022-09-11, 10:49 AM
Fixed that limitation for you. Heck, even without that obvious hack it still just outright destroys plot.

The "Boom Tubes" are transportation only. Also really obvious that you're doing and not something that can be opened casually.

It's also a separate function from their localized awareness or their matter and energy manipulation abilities, the other side of the portal is not in range.

Also, considering that New Gods mostly get into conflict with other New Gods, everyone as these, and their effective reality warping isn't omnipotent or all-encompassing, I think you're drastically overestimating it's narrative impact.

The Mother Box serves the same narrative role as Batman's utility belt.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-11, 12:48 PM
The "Boom Tubes" are transportation only. Also really obvious that you're doing and not something that can be opened casually.

It's also a separate function from their localized awareness or their matter and energy manipulation abilities, the other side of the portal is not in range.

If it can be opened in seconds then as long as I'm not transporting directly into danger it's fine.


Also, considering that New Gods mostly get into conflict with other New Gods, everyone as these, and their effective reality warping isn't omnipotent or all-encompassing, I think you're drastically overestimating it's narrative impact.

The Mother Box serves the same narrative role as Batman's utility belt.

Ah, so the fact it's so powerful is basically pointless.

TaiLiu
2022-09-11, 04:05 PM
That's very strange and I don't know why that is. Tumblr is strange...

Yeah, no, you want this version of the link: https://lazodiac.tumblr.com/post/694601937019142144/applied-for-the-99-fleeting-fantasies-short-story
Weird how Tumblr has two different kinds of links. That must be annoying.

I liked it! I'm not familiar with the myth behind your story, but your version is great. :smallsmile:

Peelee
2022-09-11, 04:49 PM
Ah, so the fact it's so powerful is basically pointless.

This is why I like Silver Age DC. DC and Marvel are inherently silly. It's built into their core. Silver Age DC embraced the silly. No planet eating monster who needs to be punched with the chaos diamonds. Just Superman being shrunk to an inch high for no reason.

Manga Shoggoth
2022-09-12, 01:58 PM
That is, I think, the problem with too many modern comics (and a lot of other entertainments). They take themselves far too seriously.

One of the reasons that I got into Manga/Anime was that the writers of the titles I read were happy to lean into the silly a bit (or a lot in some cases). Heck - the reason I enjoyed the first two Kamilla Kahn/Ms Marvel books was that it was happt yo have sily in the plotline. Not everywhere, of course, but enough.

That's why I have enjoyed most of the Marvel films I have seen (largely Phase 1). They can be serious, but they take a little time out to be fun as well. Outside Wonder Woman, I haven't been remotely interested in the DC offerings, although I understand Shazam is worth a look.

LaZodiac
2022-09-12, 02:01 PM
That is, I think, the problem with too many modern comics (and a lot of other entertainments). They take themselves far too seriously.

One of the reasons that I got into Manga/Anime was that the writers of the titles I read were happy to lean into the silly a bit (or a lot in some cases). Heck - the reason I enjoyed the first two Kamilla Kahn/Ms Marvel books was that it was happt yo have sily in the plotline. Not everywhere, of course, but enough.

That's why I have enjoyed most of the Marvel films I have seen (largely Phase 1). They can be serious, but they take a little time out to be fun as well. Outside Wonder Woman, I haven't been remotely interested in the DC offerings, although I understand Shazam is worth a look.

If you prefer your stories to be a little un-serious, Shazam is extremely worth your time, yeah.

There's always going to be a place for serious hard-core drama, but there should be silliness too. A balance is needed!

Fyraltari
2022-09-12, 02:30 PM
That is, I think, the problem with too many modern comics (and a lot of other entertainments). They take themselves far too seriously.

[Insert standard encouragement to look into Franco-Belgian comics here.]

enderlord99
2022-09-12, 03:00 PM
[Insert standard encouragement to look into Franco-Belgian comics here.]

I somehow read that as "Belgio-Franken" at a glance, and while that should in theory mean the same thing, it probably doesn't.

Bartmanhomer
2022-09-13, 02:48 AM
I'm posting my TikTok videos now. :smile:

enderlord99
2022-09-13, 10:05 AM
Has anyone seen Mutant lately?

Rater202
2022-09-13, 11:59 AM
When I was a kid I estimated based on experience roughly 1000 licks to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop.

Peelee
2022-09-13, 12:05 PM
When I was a kid I estimated based on experience roughly 1000 licks to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop.

Huh. Mathematical modeling would agree with you while field tests would not, interestingly.

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST: Mathematicians at New York University have helped answer that age-old question.

(SOUNDBITE OF TOOTSIE POP AD)

BUDDY FOSTER: (As Boy) How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?

MONTAGNE: One thousand. They computed the licks needed to dissolve one centimeter of hard candy using a formula for how flows cause dissolving, like saliva on a Tootsie Pop. Those with less patience can believe other studies where real students took just a few hundred licks.

Manga Shoggoth
2022-09-13, 01:04 PM
[Insert standard encouragement to look into Franco-Belgian comics here.]

I grew up with Asterix and Tintin (and to a lesser extent Lucky Luke and another one I forget the name of), was a great fan of Les Shadocks and will pass on Magic Roundabout because Eric Thompson did his own thing when "translating". I also have a copy of Barbarella (the comic, not the film) on my shelf.

Of course, there's always room for more suggestions...?

Fyraltari
2022-09-13, 01:31 PM
I grew up with Asterix and Tintin (and to a lesser extent Lucky Luke and another one I forget the name of), was a great fan of Les Shadocks and will pass on Magic Roundabout because Eric Thompson did his own thing when "translating". I also have a copy of Barbarella (the comic, not the film) on my shelf.

Of course, there's always room for more suggestions...?

The Shadoks and Magic Roundabout are TV shows, not comics, though.

Are you looking for pure humor or something with a story?

Manga Shoggoth
2022-09-13, 02:26 PM
The Shadoks and Magic Roundabout are TV shows, not comics, though.

I know.


Are you looking for pure humor or something with a story?

Generally both - humour on it's own doesn't really last that well, and unless you have superlative translators (Hockeridge and Bell take a bow....) humour on its own doesn't always translate well. A half-way decent story gives it something to stick to.

Fyraltari
2022-09-13, 05:00 PM
Right now I can think of Lanfeust of Troy (and its space opera sequel, Lanfeust of the stars) for a high-fantasy action adventure with a lot of humor (the author clearly believes in the inherent fun of brutal violence)
https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/1/6/0ae01bdf63044cf91eed0fee27afe2a7b5acde8df22bd80a42 fbf7d29fb6a6/lanfeust-de-troy-bd-volume-2-reedition-22608.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.sanctuary.fr%2Fbds%2 Fbig%2Flanfeust-de-troy-bd-volume-2-reedition-22608.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0

For something more grounded, there's Lou !, the story of a little girl growing up with her single, twenty-something mother and having love and friends troubles.
https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/2/8/1047ef3ef2641130c709f6850c3b7d7095b1ebf0cc3b752f2c 3d3cf0954422/006743868.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fec56229aec51f1baff1d-185c3068e22352c56024573e929788ff.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.c om%2Fattachments%2Flarge%2F8%2F6%2F8%2F006743868.j pg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0

I'll probably think of more later.

Rater202
2022-09-13, 09:26 PM
Pop Culture Trivia: According to a recipe from the Nickelodeon website from a while back, Krabby Patties are made of imitation crab meat.

That is to say, white fish that has been processed in order to imitate the taste and texture of crab legs.

Ponder the implciations.

enderlord99
2022-09-13, 09:27 PM
Pop Culture Trivia: According to a recipe from the Nickelodeon website from a while back, Krabby Patties are made of imitation crab meat.

That is to say, white fish that has been processed in order to imitate the taste and texture of crab legs.

Ponder the implciations.

Personally, I find "whale meat, from Pearl's mother" to be the more likely explanation.

Peelee
2022-09-13, 09:39 PM
Pop Culture Trivia: According to a recipe from the Nickelodeon website from a while back, Krabby Patties are made of imitation crab meat.

That is to say, white fish that has been processed in order to imitate the taste and texture of crab legs.

Ponder the implciations.

The implication being that the website was unable to obtain the recipe for the Krabby Patty and in a fit of pettiness put out a recipe with imitation crab as a thinly veiled message? :smallwink:

Beeftank
2022-09-13, 11:14 PM
It’s obviously beef from a (sea) cow.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-14, 04:22 AM
Pop Culture Trivia: According to a recipe from the Nickelodeon website from a while back, Krabby Patties are made of imitation crab meat.

That is to say, white fish that has been processed in order to imitate the taste and texture of crab legs.

Ponder the implciations.

The implications of a crab being unwilling to serve crab? Wow, such a shocker!

Keltest
2022-09-14, 06:48 AM
The implications of a crab being unwilling to serve crab? Wow, such a shocker!

There was at least one joke during an early episode where a bunch of fish in a coliseum stand got hit with frying oil and turned into fish sticks that somebody promptly started to sell. Its not like the show hasnt gone there before.

Rater202
2022-09-14, 06:52 AM
Given that the vast majority of random characters are fish, the idea of serving something made of fish is. And the fact that it's specifically fish processed to be like crab...

Fyraltari
2022-09-14, 07:01 AM
Isn't it called like that simply because it's Mr. Krabbs' recipe?

Peelee
2022-09-14, 07:03 AM
Given that the vast majority of random characters are fish, the idea of serving something made of fish is. And the fact that it's specifically fish processed to be like crab...

I am reticent to rob you of your innocence, but I have some news for you about what the vast majority of fish eat. Not to mention crabs.

Rater202
2022-09-14, 07:05 AM
I am reticent to rob you of your innocence, but I have some news for you about what the vast majority of fish eat. Not to mention crabs.
*face palms*

Real Life fish eat other fish, yes.

This is a show where all fish are fully sapient and act like people.

So in this case, fish-eating fish is people-eating people.

It is, assuming that the recipe on the website is accurate, specifically people eating people that were sold to them by a person who specifically had the people processed to taste like him.

Fyraltari
2022-09-14, 07:36 AM
*face palms*

Real Life fish eat other fish, yes.

This is a show where all fish are fully sapient and act like people.

So in this case, fish-eating fish is people-eating people.

It is, assuming that the recipe on the website is accurate, specifically people eating people that were sold to them by a person who specifically had the people processed to taste like him.

It's also a show where people go to the beach while under the sea. I don't think you should ponder the implications of anything in it.

Peelee
2022-09-14, 08:13 AM
*face palms*

Real Life fish eat other fish, yes.

This is a show where all fish are fully sapient and act like people.

So in this case, fish-eating fish is people-eating people.

There was at least one joke during an early episode where a bunch of fish in a coliseum stand got hit with frying oil and turned into fish sticks that somebody promptly started to sell. Its not like the show hasnt gone there before.
There is no existential horror here, my friend. It's a cartoon about a sponge that works at a fast food restaurant. They light fires underwater. There's a squirrel at the bottom of the sea. It's silly. It's designed to be silly.

Beeftank
2022-09-14, 10:12 AM
I’m about halfway through survival swim training. Treading water in a flight suit and gear is not fun, but the float is easy and jumping from the 15 foot platform is fun. The last day we need to do a mile swim, which initially seemed intimidating, but once you learn to breast-stroke optimally to conserve energy, it seems very do-able, easy even.

Seriously, if you’re reading this and you are even a mediocre swimmer you could do it without breaking a sweat.

Rater202
2022-09-14, 10:36 AM
Part of me like goth fashion. At least certain subsets of it.

I could never pull the look off, even when I was in the appropriate age demographic, but I like how some of it looks.

Form
2022-09-14, 10:42 AM
There is no existential horror here, my friend. It's a cartoon about a sponge that works at a fast food restaurant. They light fires underwater. There's a squirrel at the bottom of the sea. It's silly. It's designed to be silly.

There's existential horror everywhere, you only need to look for it and gaze into the undercurrent of madness that flows beneath everything.


I’m about halfway through survival swim training. Treading water in a flight suit and gear is not fun, but the float is easy and jumping from the 15 foot platform is fun. The last day we need to do a mile swim, which initially seemed intimidating, but once you learn to breast-stroke optimally to conserve energy, it seems very do-able, easy even.

Seriously, if you’re reading this and you are even a mediocre swimmer you could do it without breaking a sweat.

Is there a time limit on that mile swim or is ok to just take over an hour to clear that distance? Calm water or choppy water?

Beeftank
2022-09-14, 10:49 AM
It’s in a pool, so the water is calm, there is a time limit but it’s 70 or 80 minutes so you can do a slow and steady pace and still complete it with time to spare.

Peelee
2022-09-14, 10:56 AM
I’m about halfway through survival swim training. Treading water in a flight suit and gear is not fun, but the float is easy and jumping from the 15 foot platform is fun. The last day we need to do a mile swim, which initially seemed intimidating, but once you learn to breast-stroke optimally to conserve energy, it seems very do-able, easy even.

Seriously, if you’re reading this and you are even a mediocre swimmer you could do it without breaking a sweat.


It’s in a pool, so the water is calm, there is a time limit but it’s 70 or 80 minutes so you can do a slow and steady pace and still complete it with time to spare.

I consider myself a strong swimmer, and usually do breast stroke solely because it's the easiest to maintain for a length of time. My first mile swim back a couple months ago was an hour and a half, and that needed a few breaks throughout. I hadn't swum in quite some time for the last many years and am also fairly out of shape.

What I'm saying is, you might have some bias based off the program you're in and the relative level of fitness of yourself and those around you.

Beeftank
2022-09-14, 11:19 AM
Ok that’s fair enough, I’ll walk that statement back a bit; if you’re a mediocre swimmer, you could work your way up to it without too much difficultly if you get a little coaching to optimize your form and speed to minimize wasted energy.

LaZodiac
2022-09-14, 11:24 AM
Ok that’s fair enough, I’ll walk that statement back a bit; if you’re a mediocre swimmer, you could work your way up to it without too much difficultly if you get a little coaching to optimize your form and speed to minimize wasted energy.

The thing you're describing is like when a programmer gets so deep in the weeds that they think "well of course they know what Linux is" about regular people who don't do computers.

You are, very clearly, very fit and very adept at swimming. For someone like me, who is healthy and fit by a normal standard but has never swum before, the thing you're describing would take years of practice.

It's still very cool though!

Peelee
2022-09-14, 11:35 AM
Ok that’s fair enough, I’ll walk that statement back a bit; if you’re a mediocre swimmer, you could work your way up to it without too much difficultly if you get a little coaching to optimize your form and speed to minimize wasted energy.
Oh, totally. Also, for what it's worth, when I hit that mile I felt amazing, like I'd really acconplished something and I was really feeling it after/the next day. Mile swim is no joke. So good on you for absolutely crushing it, from what it sounds like!

Beeftank
2022-09-14, 01:26 PM
Thanks bro, I appreciate it.


The thing you're describing is like when a programmer gets so deep in the weeds that they think "well of course they know what Linux is" about regular people who don't do computers.

You are, very clearly, very fit and very adept at swimming. For someone like me, who is healthy and fit by a normal standard but has never swum before, the thing you're describing would take years of practice.

It's still very cool though!

Thanks. Believe it or not there was one or two guys at the basic training who had never swam before. It took some remediation but they ended up becoming passable swimmers.

DavidSh
2022-09-14, 05:28 PM
I don't suppose you get to use a snorkel? I could probably swim a mile with snorkeling gear, but never really managed proper breathing for any prone strokes.

Anonymouswizard
2022-09-14, 05:42 PM
I still remember learning that not every country gives mandatory swimming lessons when my Russian friend said she didn't know how. I mean it makes sense, Russia is not an island, but the pre-puberty swimming lessons were a key part of my childhood.

Rater202
2022-09-14, 11:36 PM
Every so often I'll get a review on FFN that's just a huge wall of text of the same mix copy-pasted comments ranging from excerpts of other fanfics(usually ones that praise villains and bash on heroes or authority figures in stories where the villains are not the good guys) and a variety of bizarre quasi-political opinions that honestly seem rather at odds with each other and other general comments along those lines.

I once got literally an entire chapter of another fanfic that showed the corrupt but well-meaning leader of a sanctioned Para-Military Law Enforcement Agency commiting a war crime and being chewed out for it by her subordinate which is... Not as out of character as I wish I could say it was, but still out of character.

I think it's a bot but it doesn't happen on any regular basis, sometimes I can get a dozen in one day and othertimes months pass regularly and since it's all anonymous I can't be sure what's going on.

Or who the hell would program a bot to do that kind of thing. It's not like it's adds or anything.

Lord Raziere
2022-09-15, 02:24 AM
Mystifies me as well, because even if your programming the bot to mess with peoples's heads with some nonsensical review, you can't see the reaction of people being messed with, so what would the point be?

Rater202
2022-09-15, 06:06 AM
Does anyone else have a terrible gnawing void inside that can only be satisfied by garlic and/or smoked cheese flavored snacks?

2D8HP
2022-09-15, 05:13 PM
Does anyone else have a terrible gnawing void inside


Yes, very much


that can only be satisfied by garlic and/or smoked cheese flavored snacks?


What?

Umm…

….maybe?

Thanks @Rater202

Rater202
2022-09-15, 11:35 PM
Yes, very much




What?

Umm…

….maybe?

Thanks @Rater202

...Not sure why thanks or if thanks is genuine or sarcastic.

For what it's worth I've got the other kind, too.

...I think most people feel incomplete at some point in their lives. Some people try to fill the void with friendship, romance, great works, creative endeavors, money, power...

I bet you could do a wonderous social-psych study about it, trying to find people willing to admit to such feelings and what they did to try and cope could probably provide interesting insights into mankind's drive to feel productive.

...I also sometimes feel like I can feel myself aging in real-time. I don't think that's normal. I've looked into it and all I could find was a mental disorder where some people believe themselves to already be dead(or undead) and claim that they can feel themselves decaying but... That doesn't line up with my experience.

I want to say that I might be more in tune with my body to my awareness of its shortcomings(pre-mature arthritis, weak back, bad vision, etcetera) except I didn't notice significant rapid weight loss which blows that theory right out of the water.

enderlord99
2022-09-17, 08:24 PM
I'm excited for Microsoft to announce their new XBOX versions, presumably named "Original XBOX" and "XBOX From 2001"

Rater202
2022-09-17, 08:42 PM
So in the last year or so I've noticed a bunch of videos of someone punching someone else to no effect wit the background music being replaced with the intro to It Has to Be This Way.

This is obviously a reference to the beginning of the boss fight against Senator Armstrong in MGRR when Raiden is just giving him the JoJo treatment to no effect but does anyone know when this trend started?

Are these edits a recent thing or have they been around for a while and it's just only now hat they're ending up in my feed?

LaZodiac
2022-09-17, 08:53 PM
So in the last year or so I've noticed a bunch of videos of someone punching someone else to no effect wit the background music being replaced with the intro to It Has to Be This Way.

This is obviously a reference to the beginning of the boss fight against Senator Armstrong in MGRR when Raiden is just giving him the JoJo treatment to no effect but does anyone know when this trend started?

Are these edits a recent thing or have they been around for a while and it's just only now hat they're ending up in my feed?

They were a little common back when the game first released, but as the game was a sleeper hit it took a while for the Masses to catch onto how ****ing excellent that game is. Don't know what caused the resurgence in the mass market; some ten hundred million follower youtube mutant doing the game, a game sale putting it out for pennies, something like that.

BisectedBrioche
2022-09-18, 01:43 AM
They were a little common back when the game first released, but as the game was a sleeper hit it took a while for the Masses to catch onto how ****ing excellent that game is. Don't know what caused the resurgence in the mass market; some ten hundred million follower youtube mutant doing the game, a game sale putting it out for pennies, something like that.

I'm wondering if Netflix's Castlvania popularised the meme more (there's a very memorable moment in the second season I'll put in spoilers below), and caused people to revisit MGR ("Rules of Nature goes with everything" was a popular variation of the "Guile's Theme goes with everything" meme), which then formed this newer iteration.

Where Trevor, Syphia and Alucard all finally confront Dracula, and Belmont goes straight in for a flurry of punches. This does nothing, except make Dracula (who's had an arc where he's been overtaken by nihilistic depression) exasperatedly exclaim "You must be the Belmont!".

It's such an amazing bit of humour that doesn't break any of the scene's tension, and it gets a callback in the next season's opening (which confirms Trevor can actually take some enemies down unarmed).

OSP has an analysis of the scene, if you have 40 minutes to spare:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bpVs97dFiY

Fyraltari
2022-09-18, 10:48 AM
So, my mum is retiring at the end of the month. Except, not technically. See, the hospital she works at is so understaffed that all the paid leave she skipped over the years amount to 15 months of paid vacation before she retires next year.

Rater202
2022-09-18, 10:50 AM
So, my mum is retiring at the end of the month. Except, not technically. See, the hospital she works at is so understaffed that all the paid leave she skipped over the years amount to 15 months of paid vacation before she retires next year.

....So I think a lot of places have "use it or lose it" policies for Paid Vacation Time for exactly that reason.

Metastachydium
2022-09-18, 11:23 AM
So, my mum is retiring at the end of the month. Except, not technically. See, the hospital she works at is so understaffed that all the paid leave she skipped over the years amount to 15 months of paid vacation before she retires next year.

On a scale of e to 6.02214076×1023, how bad is it that right now, I just want to be her?

Peelee
2022-09-18, 11:28 AM
So, my mum is retiring at the end of the month. Except, not technically. See, the hospital she works at is so understaffed that all the paid leave she skipped over the years amount to 15 months of paid vacation before she retires next year.
With the agency I'm going for, that's fairly common. Accrual with no cap tends to help.

Fyraltari
2022-09-18, 11:47 AM
On a scale of e to 6.02214076×1023, how bad is it that right now, I just want to be her?

You can't be my mum, you're a plant!

Metastachydium
2022-09-18, 12:00 PM
You can't be my mum, you're a plant!

You're breaking my heart!



Oh, wait, I don't even have one of those. Regardless, I envy her position.

Rater202
2022-09-18, 12:37 PM
Comic Book Trivia: It's reasonably common knowledge that a Gamma-Ray Mutate, such as the Hulk's, powers are based on their rough mental state, personal issues, psychoses, or so on.

What's not commonly known is just how precise and niche this can be.

The Hulk can see and touch "astral forms"... Because Bruce killed his abusive father in self-defense and ever since has been subconsciously terrified of the possibility of his father coming back to haunt him.

Fyraltari
2022-09-18, 12:59 PM
Comic Book Trivia: It's reasonably common knowledge that a Gamma-Ray Mutate, such as the Hulk's, powers are based on their rough mental state, personal issues, psychoses, or so on.

Is it?7890

Rater202
2022-09-18, 01:03 PM
Is it?7890

"reasonably common" here means "if you hve more than a passing knowledge of the franchise chance are good that you know it."

Peelee
2022-09-18, 01:41 PM
Is "reasonably common knowledge" trivia, then?

enderlord99
2022-09-18, 01:48 PM
Is "reasonably common knowledge" trivia, then?

Certainly seemed trivial to me!

Metastachydium
2022-09-18, 01:58 PM
Certainly seemed trivial to me!

I concur; to be quadrivial, it would need to actually have something to do with actual natural science.

Fyraltari
2022-09-18, 02:00 PM
You're breaking my heart!



Oh, wait, I don't even have one of those. Regardless, I envy her position.

What, you got a plant job?

Metastachydium
2022-09-18, 02:06 PM
What, you got a plant job?

Look, I have bills to pay too, okay?

Form
2022-09-18, 02:17 PM
Look, I have bills to pay too, okay?

Did Mr. Burns blot out the sun again? Is he making you pay for sunlight?

Metastachydium
2022-09-18, 02:51 PM
Did Mr. Burns blot out the sun again? Is he making you pay for sunlight?

[Shudders.] Heavens forbid, no! It's heating, mostly. And water. I'm very serious about the per bit of perennial.

enderlord99
2022-09-18, 08:31 PM
[Shudders.] Heavens forbid, no! It's heating, mostly. And water. I'm very serious about the per bit of perennial.

You're serious about going through?

Metastachydium
2022-09-19, 04:48 AM
You're serious about going through

…the whole year, alive, green and mostly in one piece? Yes, pretty much.

Form
2022-09-19, 05:03 AM
I've got only a few more days left until the outdoor pool closes. Fun fact: Indoor pool water tastes different from outdoor pool water.

enderlord99
2022-09-19, 05:52 AM
I've got only a few more days left until the outdoor pool closes.

Isn't your whole country an outdoor pool? :smallwink:

Beeftank
2022-09-19, 08:51 AM
Mile swim results: 55 minutes flat. Though you may be wondering if I an Atlantean, or perhaps the missing love-child of Michael Phelps and a sea lion, I assure you all I am a regular guy. I put my swim trunks on one leg at a time, though at an admittedly blazing speed.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 09:15 AM
Mile swim results: 55 minutes flat. Though you may be wondering if I an Atlantean, or perhaps the missing love-child of Michael Phelps and a sea lion, I assure you all I am a regular guy. I put my swim trunks on one leg at a time, though at an admittedly blazing speed.

On the one hand, Google claims that a beginner should be able to swim a mile in 50-60 minutes. On the other hand, I choose to summon Saw Gererra and cry out "LIES! DECEPTION!" on Google's claims and also point out that your name is Beeftank, heavily implying that you are a beefy tank. :smallwink:

Metastachydium
2022-09-19, 09:23 AM
Isn't your whole country an outdoor pool? :smallwink:

You are one wicked person for sure! (Make sure you never change!)


I've got only a few more days left until the outdoor pool closes. Fun fact: Indoor pool water tastes different from outdoor pool water.

I don't think you should actually drink either.

Beeftank
2022-09-19, 09:49 AM
On the one hand, Google claims that a beginner should be able to swim a mile in 50-60 minutes. On the other hand, I choose to summon Saw Gererra and cry out "LIES! DECEPTION!" on Google's claims and also point out that your name is Beeftank, heavily implying that you are a beefy tank. :smallwink:

I like to think I would have shaved a few minutes off without the flight suit, but you’re right; what does google know? I bet your computer hasn’t swam a lap in its life.

Form
2022-09-19, 09:57 AM
Isn't your whole country an outdoor pool? :smallwink:

We're constantly draining the sea to have that very much not to be the case.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 09:59 AM
We're constantly draining the sea to have that very much not to be the case.

At least y'all are draining the sea, we're over here draining lakes. Way worse idea.

Keltest
2022-09-19, 10:02 AM
At least y'all are draining the sea, we're over here draining lakes. Way worse idea.

Meh. Lake Superior has had it too good for too long. Anybody with Superior in their name needs some humbling.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 10:11 AM
Meh. Lake Superior has had it too good for too long. Anybody with Superior in their name needs some humbling.

Dont talk too much smack or Gitche Gumee may get you in its crosshairs.

Mystic Muse
2022-09-19, 10:18 AM
Dont talk too much smack or Gitche Gumee may get you in its crosshairs.

The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 10:25 AM
The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy.

Oh my. Do the gales of November ever come early?

Rater202
2022-09-19, 10:26 AM
The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy.

I've heard it said that to this day people who disrespect the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald tend to go missing should they do so in a port town on the Great Lakes.

Mystic Muse
2022-09-19, 11:21 AM
Oh my. Do the gales of November ever come early?

According to the song I've been referencing, yes. :smalltongue:

Peelee
2022-09-19, 11:27 AM
According to the song I've been referencing, yes. :smalltongue:

That's a song? I thought it was just idle pondering as you creep around back stairs.

Mystic Muse
2022-09-19, 11:30 AM
That's a song? I thought it was just idle pondering as you creep around back stairs.

https://youtu.be/9vST6hVRj2A

Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot.

Personally, as far as songs about shipwrecks go, I'm more fond of "Flowers of Bermuda", covered by Heather Dale, originally by Stan Rogers.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 11:32 AM
https://youtu.be/9vST6hVRj2A

Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot.

Personally, as far as songs about shipwrecks go, I'm more fond of "Flowers of Bermuda", covered by Heather Dale, originally by Stan Rogers.

Not much a fan of Sundown, I take it? :smallamused:

Mystic Muse
2022-09-19, 11:43 AM
Not much a fan of Sundown, I take it? :smallamused:

Not familiar with them, no.

enderlord99
2022-09-19, 11:43 AM
Not much a fan of Sundown, I take it? :smallamused:

Not much of a fan of what (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sundown_(disambiguation))?

2D8HP
2022-09-19, 11:47 AM
[…]
...I think most people feel incomplete at some point in their lives. Some people try to fill the void with friendship, romance, great works, creative endeavors, money, power...

I bet you could do a wonderous social-psych study about it, trying to find people willing to admit to such feelings and what they did to try and cope could probably provide interesting insights into mankind's drive to feel productive.


Maybe not most, but I’d wager many feel that way.

Probably more prevalent where folks aren’t in an active struggle to survive and have more time to muse.


...I also sometimes feel like I can feel myself aging in real-time. I don't think that's normal. I've looked into it and all I could find was a mental disorder where some people believe themselves to already be dead(or undead) and claim that they can feel themselves decaying but... That doesn't line up with my experience.

I want to say that I might be more in tune with my body to my awareness of its shortcomings(pre-mature arthritis, weak back, bad vision, etcetera) except I didn't notice significant rapid weight loss which blows that theory right out of the water.


Sadly I do feel that way as well due to age and old work injuries.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 11:48 AM
Not familiar with them, no.

"It" would be better, since it's another Gordon Lightfoot song. And an excellent one, at that.

Mystic Muse
2022-09-19, 11:49 AM
"It" would be better, since it's another Gordon Lightfoot song. And an excellent one, at that.

I'll check it out tonight. Only other one I'm familiar with is "If You Could Read My Mind." And I prefer the Johnny Cash version of that one.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 11:52 AM
I'll check it out tonight. Only other one I'm familiar with is "If You Could Read My Mind." And I prefer the Johnny Cash version of that one.

Sundown was his highest ranking one, and the only one to hit #1 on the charts, if that's something you care about (it's not for me, but different strokes and everything).

I thought I was being fairly obvious with the WotEF references and then the Sundown followup but it seems I was mistaken.

Mystic Muse
2022-09-19, 11:57 AM
Sundown was his highest ranking one, and the only one to hit #1 on the charts, if that's something you care about (it's not for me, but different strokes and everything).

I thought I was being fairly obvious with the WotEF references and then the Sundown followup but it seems I was mistaken.

It's been a long morning (sitting next to a coworker who will not shut up) and I'm fairly tired, so I was not sure if you legitimately had not hesrd the song despite seemingly referencing it, or what.

Rater202
2022-09-19, 11:58 AM
So today I learned that due to a legal battle regarding The Conjuring and its' sequels(regarding whether or not the events they were based on were historical events, and therefore fair use) that there is now a legal precedent that ghosts exist.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 12:09 PM
It's been a long morning (sitting next to a coworker who will not shut up) and I'm fairly tired, so I was not sure if you legitimately had not hesrd the song despite seemingly referencing it, or what.

I got five bucks on "it's one of those songs that you've definitely heard before even if you were unaware and it'll probably sound familiar".

And, speaking of songs like that and recommendations, one of my favorite songs ever is Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street. I guarantee you've heard it before. Everyone has heard it before. You'll listen to it and think "nah this doesn't sound familiar" and then the sax will kick in and you'll be all "oh hey it's that song!"

And then, ya know, the rest of the song is amazing as well. But that's gotta be one of, if not the single most famous sax riffs ever.

enderlord99
2022-09-19, 02:04 PM
So today I learned that due to a legal battle regarding The Conjuring and its' sequels(regarding whether or not the events they were based on were historical events, and therefore fair use) that there is now a legal precedent that ghosts exist.

That reminds me of Ebay's ruling on trying to use them to sell your soul.

If souls aren't real, you're running a scam which is against their policy. If they are real, you're selling part of a person; organ-trafficking is also against their policy.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 02:05 PM
That reminds me of Ebay's ruling on trying to use them to sell your soul.

If souls aren't real, you're running a scam which is against their policy. If they are real, you're selling part of a person; organ-trafficking is also against their policy.

Would it be an organ?

Regardless, that sounds needlessly complex. They could just refuse on the grounds of insufficient proof of delivery.

enderlord99
2022-09-19, 02:18 PM
Would it be an organ?
According to Ebay's policies, yes.

Regardless, that sounds needlessly complex. They could just refuse on the grounds of insufficient proof of delivery.
What they could do is irrelevant. What matters is what they did do, which I find hilarious.

Metastachydium
2022-09-19, 02:19 PM
I guarantee you've heard it before. Everyone has heard it before. You'll listen to it and think "nah this doesn't sound familiar" and then the sax will kick in and you'll be all "oh hey it's that song!"

And then, ya know, the rest of the song is amazing as well. But that's gotta be one of, if not the single most famous sax riffs ever.

Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street

Weirdest way to spell "SunStroke Project & Olia Tira's Run Away (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECyeUYsU14E)" I've ever seen, let me tell you.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 02:29 PM
Weirdest way to spell "SunStroke Project & Olia Tira's Run Away (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECyeUYsU14E)" I've ever seen, let me tell you.

I never claimed it was the only song to fit that criteria.

Also, no misspelling, because I've never heard that one. :smalltongue:

According to Ebay's policies, yes.
Ebay could put wheels on my grandmother and call her a bike, but that doesn't make it so.

What they could do is irrelevant. What matters is what they did do, which I find hilarious.
Fair.

ETA: Actually, it looks like eBay did indeed take the route I thought up.

All listings on eBay must offer either a physical item or a service for sale.


What is the policy?

A listing must offer either a physical item, which includes digitally delivered goods, or a service for sale.
Until one can prove a soul can be delivered (digitally or otherwise), it falls afoul of the physical item or service clause.

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/item-location-misrepresentation-policy/no-item-listings-policy?id=4242

Metastachydium
2022-09-19, 02:36 PM
Also, no misspelling, because I've never heard that one. :smalltongue:


But…
That's the EPIC SAX GUY, it's…
WHERE DID YOU GROW UP, UNDER A STONE??!!?

Peelee
2022-09-19, 02:50 PM

But…
That's the EPIC SAX GUY, it's…
WHERE DID YOU GROW UP, UNDER A STONE??!!?

Depends. Is the 80's under a stone?

This is the first I've ever heard of an epic sax guy.

Metastachydium
2022-09-19, 03:01 PM
Depends. Is the 80's under a stone?

[All grumpy.] At this point, it should be.

Peelee
2022-09-19, 03:07 PM
[All grumpy.] At this point, it should be.

I'm gonna throw Johnny Lawrence at you. You're not a bonsai, so you won't be in immediate danger, but he brooks no guff about the 80s.

Metastachydium
2022-09-19, 03:13 PM
I'm gonna throw Johnny Lawrence at you.

I guess I'm lucky you're not in Austria at the moment. (Or part of the Secret Service. (Yet.))

Peelee
2022-09-19, 03:31 PM
I guess I'm lucky you're not in Austria at the moment. (Or part of the Secret Service. (Yet.))

It may or may not be the Secret Service. :smalltongue:

Rater202
2022-09-19, 08:23 PM
The other day I saw a picture that was captioned with "Mom: when are you gonna give me grandkids" and then the picture itself was a puppy in a onesie laying in a crib.

The picture is cute but suddenly I have to wonder how exactly someone got a puppy to sit still while wearing a onesie. It is my experience that dogs do not like clothes.