Ragnaros.
2022-10-13, 06:35 PM
I made a survey of the powers and abilities wielded by Sauron. I wanted your opinion if it makes sense to convert some of the character's powers into the DND Spell list.
Is it possible to say the Level, Class, Stats (Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, etc)? Or is it impossible to define and Sauron could only be an NPC?
Spells:
- Volcano Control? - 9th level spell?
"There above the valley of Gorgoroth was built his fortress vast and strong, Barad-dûr, the Dark Tower; and there was a fiery mountain in that land that the Elves named Orodruin. Indeed for that reason Sauron had set there his dwelling long before, for he used the fire that welled there from the heart of the earth in his sorceries and in his forging; and in
the midst of the Land of Mordor he had fashioned the Ruling Ring"
>Now Sauron prepared war against the Eldar and the Men of Westernesse, and the fires of the Mountain were wakened again.
- Earthquake?
"I don’t know,’ said Frodo. ‘It’s been going on for a good while now. Sometimes the ground seems to tremble, sometimes it seems to be the heavy air throbbing in your ears."
"But it was too late. At that moment the rock quivered and trembled beneath them. The great rumbling noise, louder than ever before, rolled in the ground and echoed in the mountains."
- Control Weather?
"The skirts of the storm were lifting, ragged and wet, and the main battle had passed to spread its great wings over the Emyn Muil, upon which the dark thought of Sauron brooded for a while. Thence it turned, smiting the Vale of Anduin with hail and lightning, and casting its shadow upon Minas Tirith with threat of war."
- Dominate Monster? - Orcs, Trolls, Nazgûl, Wargs:
"From all his policies and webs of fear and treachery, from all his stratagems and wars his mind shook free; and throughout his realm a tremor ran, his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten. The whole mind and purpose of the Power that wielded them was now bent with overwhelming force upon the Mountain."
"But the Nazgûl turned and fled, and vanished into Mordor's shadows, hearing a sudden terrible call out of the Dark Tower; and even at that moment all the hosts of Mordor trembled, doubt clutched their hearts, their laughter failed, their hands shook and their limbs were loosed. The Power that drove them on and filled them with hate and fury was wavering, its will was removed from them;"
- Sympathy? - the attraction of Gollum and all evils to Mordor:
"Yes, to Mordor,’ said Gandalf. ‘Alas! Mordor draws all wicked things, and the Dark Power was bending all its will to gather them there."
- Antimagic field?
"In his great need he drew out once more the phial of Galadriel, but it was pale and cold in his trembling hand and threw no light into that stifling dark. He was come to the heart of the realm of Sauron and the forges of his ancient might, greatest in Middle-earth; all other powers were here subdued."
"But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed"
- Mass suggestion/Mass charm person?
>"Ar-Pharazôn, as is told in the 'Downfall' or Akallabêth, conquered a terrified Sauron's subjects, not Sauron. Sauron's personal 'surrender' was voluntary and cunning* he got free transport to Numenor! He naturally had the One Ring, and so very soon dominated the minds and wills of most of the Númenóreans"
- Create undead? The Nazgûl, Barrow Wight
- Shapechange - Werewolve, serpent, vampire, Annatar
Then Sauron shifted shape, from wolf to serpent, and from monster to his own accustomed form;
(...) And immediately he took the form of a vampire, great as a dark cloud across the moon (...) and the most perilous, for he could assume many forms, and for long if he willed he could still appear noble and beautiful, so as to deceive all but the most wary
- Self resurrect - twice. With and without the ring.
- Aura of Terror;
- Disease? The Great Plague in third age;
Sauron's Deeds:
I think that He called himself Tar-Mairon, the GREAT (like the Mouth of Sauron called him).
And he really deserves the nickname. If we look at Sauron's "career", he accomplished some feats that few characters can match:
A) In the beginning:
- Was a spy for Melkor in the Court of the Valar, providing vital information and (theoretically) structurally weakening the lamps to be dropped by Melkor.
- Lieutenant of Melkor in Angband in the War of Powers to threaten the flank of the Valar in the siege of Utumno.
- Managed to escape, when wanted by the Valar, after the fall of Utumno.
- Participated in the corruption and creation of the Orcs. The accursed race multiplied, while Melkor was imprisoned in Valinor; already thinking of a numerous force to his master.
- Must have helped rebuild Angband for Melkor's return.
B) In the First Age:
- Took the fortress of Tol Sirion, when it was blessed by the power of Ulmo.
- Imprisoned evil spirits in beasts and created Werewolves.
- With Necromancy and illusion, destroyed an experienced guerrilla group.
- He was able to face the "clash of wills" against Mélian, the Maia.
- Fought and defeated Finrod in the "Battle of Songs of Power".
- He was defeated by the Hound of Oromë (immune against magic), but he was fighting Fate Itself as well.
C) In the second age:
- Religiously engineered the prehistoric men of Middle-earth through displaying powers, occult knowledge of metallurgy and engineering.
- Tricked the elves into creating rings and created the One. Through the One he was able to control the Morgoth Ingredient present in matter. In this way he controlled monsters, human kingdoms, animals and increased his power over the Earth (storms, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions).
- Gave 7 rings to the dwarves. They grew rich, but they attracted Balrogs, dragons, and misfortunes.
- Gave the men 9 rings. And these men must have launched dynasties in Harad, Rhûn, Khand, &c. And created the Nazgûl.
- Feigned to be captured by Númenor. From political prisoner he became the king's greatest adviser and high priest.
- Defeated the Valar's lightnings. Used spells to break the barrier of clouds that surrounded Valinor to help Ar-pharazôn's Navy.
- Was physically destroyed by Eru, but survived and "resurrected".
- Even weakened, managed to (telepathically) control half of all creatures, animals or rational beings. And Monster in the Battle of Dagorlad.
- Even weakened, he defeated Gil-galad and Elendil.
D) In the third age:
- Without the One Ring, he was capable of earthquakes, control the weather, volcanic eruptions.
- Gathered (by force of will/presence) Orcs, Trolls, Wargs and other monsters.
- He must have caused the great plague in the Third Age that devastated the realms of men.
- Caused Arnor's downfall.
- He physically rebuilt himself for the second time, without the One Ring in his hand. And still filled Mirkwood with darkness and monsters.
- Rebuilt the entire hierarchical structure and its armies to attack Middle-earth.
But, he didn't count on 4 Hobbits that spoiled all his plans.
If anyone needs it, I send the quotes in the works for the points raised. Some things are theories.
Is it possible to say the Level, Class, Stats (Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, etc)? Or is it impossible to define and Sauron could only be an NPC?
Spells:
- Volcano Control? - 9th level spell?
"There above the valley of Gorgoroth was built his fortress vast and strong, Barad-dûr, the Dark Tower; and there was a fiery mountain in that land that the Elves named Orodruin. Indeed for that reason Sauron had set there his dwelling long before, for he used the fire that welled there from the heart of the earth in his sorceries and in his forging; and in
the midst of the Land of Mordor he had fashioned the Ruling Ring"
>Now Sauron prepared war against the Eldar and the Men of Westernesse, and the fires of the Mountain were wakened again.
- Earthquake?
"I don’t know,’ said Frodo. ‘It’s been going on for a good while now. Sometimes the ground seems to tremble, sometimes it seems to be the heavy air throbbing in your ears."
"But it was too late. At that moment the rock quivered and trembled beneath them. The great rumbling noise, louder than ever before, rolled in the ground and echoed in the mountains."
- Control Weather?
"The skirts of the storm were lifting, ragged and wet, and the main battle had passed to spread its great wings over the Emyn Muil, upon which the dark thought of Sauron brooded for a while. Thence it turned, smiting the Vale of Anduin with hail and lightning, and casting its shadow upon Minas Tirith with threat of war."
- Dominate Monster? - Orcs, Trolls, Nazgûl, Wargs:
"From all his policies and webs of fear and treachery, from all his stratagems and wars his mind shook free; and throughout his realm a tremor ran, his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten. The whole mind and purpose of the Power that wielded them was now bent with overwhelming force upon the Mountain."
"But the Nazgûl turned and fled, and vanished into Mordor's shadows, hearing a sudden terrible call out of the Dark Tower; and even at that moment all the hosts of Mordor trembled, doubt clutched their hearts, their laughter failed, their hands shook and their limbs were loosed. The Power that drove them on and filled them with hate and fury was wavering, its will was removed from them;"
- Sympathy? - the attraction of Gollum and all evils to Mordor:
"Yes, to Mordor,’ said Gandalf. ‘Alas! Mordor draws all wicked things, and the Dark Power was bending all its will to gather them there."
- Antimagic field?
"In his great need he drew out once more the phial of Galadriel, but it was pale and cold in his trembling hand and threw no light into that stifling dark. He was come to the heart of the realm of Sauron and the forges of his ancient might, greatest in Middle-earth; all other powers were here subdued."
"But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed"
- Mass suggestion/Mass charm person?
>"Ar-Pharazôn, as is told in the 'Downfall' or Akallabêth, conquered a terrified Sauron's subjects, not Sauron. Sauron's personal 'surrender' was voluntary and cunning* he got free transport to Numenor! He naturally had the One Ring, and so very soon dominated the minds and wills of most of the Númenóreans"
- Create undead? The Nazgûl, Barrow Wight
- Shapechange - Werewolve, serpent, vampire, Annatar
Then Sauron shifted shape, from wolf to serpent, and from monster to his own accustomed form;
(...) And immediately he took the form of a vampire, great as a dark cloud across the moon (...) and the most perilous, for he could assume many forms, and for long if he willed he could still appear noble and beautiful, so as to deceive all but the most wary
- Self resurrect - twice. With and without the ring.
- Aura of Terror;
- Disease? The Great Plague in third age;
Sauron's Deeds:
I think that He called himself Tar-Mairon, the GREAT (like the Mouth of Sauron called him).
And he really deserves the nickname. If we look at Sauron's "career", he accomplished some feats that few characters can match:
A) In the beginning:
- Was a spy for Melkor in the Court of the Valar, providing vital information and (theoretically) structurally weakening the lamps to be dropped by Melkor.
- Lieutenant of Melkor in Angband in the War of Powers to threaten the flank of the Valar in the siege of Utumno.
- Managed to escape, when wanted by the Valar, after the fall of Utumno.
- Participated in the corruption and creation of the Orcs. The accursed race multiplied, while Melkor was imprisoned in Valinor; already thinking of a numerous force to his master.
- Must have helped rebuild Angband for Melkor's return.
B) In the First Age:
- Took the fortress of Tol Sirion, when it was blessed by the power of Ulmo.
- Imprisoned evil spirits in beasts and created Werewolves.
- With Necromancy and illusion, destroyed an experienced guerrilla group.
- He was able to face the "clash of wills" against Mélian, the Maia.
- Fought and defeated Finrod in the "Battle of Songs of Power".
- He was defeated by the Hound of Oromë (immune against magic), but he was fighting Fate Itself as well.
C) In the second age:
- Religiously engineered the prehistoric men of Middle-earth through displaying powers, occult knowledge of metallurgy and engineering.
- Tricked the elves into creating rings and created the One. Through the One he was able to control the Morgoth Ingredient present in matter. In this way he controlled monsters, human kingdoms, animals and increased his power over the Earth (storms, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions).
- Gave 7 rings to the dwarves. They grew rich, but they attracted Balrogs, dragons, and misfortunes.
- Gave the men 9 rings. And these men must have launched dynasties in Harad, Rhûn, Khand, &c. And created the Nazgûl.
- Feigned to be captured by Númenor. From political prisoner he became the king's greatest adviser and high priest.
- Defeated the Valar's lightnings. Used spells to break the barrier of clouds that surrounded Valinor to help Ar-pharazôn's Navy.
- Was physically destroyed by Eru, but survived and "resurrected".
- Even weakened, managed to (telepathically) control half of all creatures, animals or rational beings. And Monster in the Battle of Dagorlad.
- Even weakened, he defeated Gil-galad and Elendil.
D) In the third age:
- Without the One Ring, he was capable of earthquakes, control the weather, volcanic eruptions.
- Gathered (by force of will/presence) Orcs, Trolls, Wargs and other monsters.
- He must have caused the great plague in the Third Age that devastated the realms of men.
- Caused Arnor's downfall.
- He physically rebuilt himself for the second time, without the One Ring in his hand. And still filled Mirkwood with darkness and monsters.
- Rebuilt the entire hierarchical structure and its armies to attack Middle-earth.
But, he didn't count on 4 Hobbits that spoiled all his plans.
If anyone needs it, I send the quotes in the works for the points raised. Some things are theories.