3.5 Warlocks in Forgotten Realms: How do they affect the Weave?

[Cygnia]

If at all? Do they draw from the Shadow Weave instead? A preliminary search isn't pulling up anything on the Wayback Machine for the ol' Wizards archives...

[schreier]

They did class chronicles articles on WOTCs website - here are some archives of them:
http://rpg.nobl.ca/archive.php?x=dnd/frcc/20070314

http://rpg.nobl.ca/archive.php?x=dnd/frcc/20070328

[Cygnia]

Unfortunately, I'm not seeing anything about the Weave in those articles.

[Inevitability]

Generally, even fiends still draw upon the regular Weave, right? It'd make sense that warlocks receiving their power are no different.

[Tzardok]

In that case, the most likely answer is that invocations, like most spell-like abilities, simply use the Weave. I could imagine that a Warlock could learn to use the Shadow Weave instead, propably by taking a modified version of the Shadow Weave feat.

Alternatively you could decide that invocations, as they are based on shaping the eldritch energies of the wellspring grafted to your soul, are an internal power similiar to psychic powers, and therefor independant of both Weave and Shadow Weave.

Edit: Actually, this sounds like a question for afroakuma.

[Darg]

In that case, the most likely answer is that invocations, like most spell-like abilities, simply use the Weave. I could imagine that a Warlock could learn to use the Shadow Weave instead, propably by taking a modified version of the Shadow Weave feat.

Alternatively you could decide that invocations, as they are based on shaping the eldritch energies of the wellspring grafted to your soul, are an internal power similiar to psychic powers, and therefor independant of both Weave and Shadow Weave.

Edit: Actually, this sounds like a question for afroakuma.

Technically it doesn't need a modified feat. The only rule is that warlocks can't benefit from the spell focus feat. Nothing says they can't benefit from other spell affecting feats. This is especially true as the PHB says that SLAs functions just like a spell with specific exceptions found on page 180.

I'm pretty sure that in the faerunian setting all SLAs are powered by an innate connection to the weave. So a Warlock, menacing demon, or enterprising god are still beholden to the weave, I think.

[wilphe]

. I could imagine that a Warlock could learn to use the Shadow Weave instead, propably by taking a modified version of the Shadow Weave feat.


I am sure Shar would be delighted.

Especially as how I don't think there are any Warlocks in 3.5 FR material, this could be her new secret weapon

[Biggus]

Generally, even fiends still draw upon the regular Weave, right? It'd make sense that warlocks receiving their power are no different.

This is correct. The answer is hidden is a weird place, as usual. From Pernicious Magic (PGtF p.42):


All creatures employing spells or spell-like abilities are considered weave users unless they possess the Shadow Weave Magic feat.

The same text also appears in the Insidious Magic and Tenacious Magic feats, but for some reason not in the Shadow Weave Magic feat itself.

[ShurikVch]

I don't think there are any Warlocks in 3.5 FR material
Cormyr: the Tearing of the Weave includes Zetharmas (https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Zetharmas) - a tiefling warlock in the Plane of Shadow

[Biggus]

Cormyr: the Tearing of the Weave includes Zetharmas (https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Zetharmas) - a tiefling warlock in the Plane of Shadow

There was also one in Neverwinter Nights 2, which IIRC is considered canon unless it contradicts an official source.

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ammon_Jerro