Hiro Quester
2022-11-11, 06:45 PM
My enchanter Artificer 1/ Wizard (enchanter) 3 will be taking a feat soon. Is it better to increase INT to 18, or take Warcaster first?
Role is party rogue (finding and disabling locks and traps) as well as BFC and buffing, and a little blasting when needed. The character is a curious scientist, who loves puzzles, and has a natural affinity for alchemy and making gadgets, curious and chaotic (worships trickster god) who investigates many situations by "let's try it and see what happens" then investigating the results.
17 Int, 16 Dex, 14 Con. Proficiency in arcana, stealth, investigation, thieves' tools, expertise in perception, and I know the guidance cantrip.
The enchanter's main class ability, Hypnotic Gaze, enables them to use an action to charm an enemy within 5 ft, and if they fail the save, use their action each turn to keep that enemy dazed and taking no actions. This does not require concentration.
So often I'm concentrating on a BFC spell that limits some of the bad guys' actions or debuffs them (e.g. web, hideous laughter, faerie fire) and then enchanting another bad guy to take no actions while my friends clean up the others. Failing to enchant a bad guy often means I'm left within 5 ft of them. Increasing that DC is important, but so is making Concentration saves if I don't charm them.
Thanks to the artificer level, I have medium armor and shield (AC 18 thanks to +1 chain shirt) and proficiency with CON saves. I usually have Shield, Absorb Elements, Misty Step and Mirror Image prepared as defensive options, and can use Shocking Grasp to disable bad guys' reactions and disengage without OAs.
My current plan is to take Skill Expert at Wizard 4, for increasing INT to 18, as well as gaining expertise in investigation, and proficiency in another skill (probably persuasion, because Enchanter with 8 CHA).
But I wonder if taking Warcaster would be a better option for the Wizard 4 feat? I'll be making a lot of concentration saves, and will have a few good single target spells to cast for opportunity attacks (e.g. hold person).
Which should be first: Warcaster, or Skill Expert increasing Int to 18 and getting expertise in investigation? I will take one at Wizard 4 and the other at Wizard 8.
My inclination is that increasing Int to 18 is more important, since it increases attack and spell DCsI have many defensive options to protect my concentration saves. But looking at spell lists, there are a lot of very valuable concentration spells I'll be learning between level 4 and level 8.
Role is party rogue (finding and disabling locks and traps) as well as BFC and buffing, and a little blasting when needed. The character is a curious scientist, who loves puzzles, and has a natural affinity for alchemy and making gadgets, curious and chaotic (worships trickster god) who investigates many situations by "let's try it and see what happens" then investigating the results.
17 Int, 16 Dex, 14 Con. Proficiency in arcana, stealth, investigation, thieves' tools, expertise in perception, and I know the guidance cantrip.
The enchanter's main class ability, Hypnotic Gaze, enables them to use an action to charm an enemy within 5 ft, and if they fail the save, use their action each turn to keep that enemy dazed and taking no actions. This does not require concentration.
So often I'm concentrating on a BFC spell that limits some of the bad guys' actions or debuffs them (e.g. web, hideous laughter, faerie fire) and then enchanting another bad guy to take no actions while my friends clean up the others. Failing to enchant a bad guy often means I'm left within 5 ft of them. Increasing that DC is important, but so is making Concentration saves if I don't charm them.
Thanks to the artificer level, I have medium armor and shield (AC 18 thanks to +1 chain shirt) and proficiency with CON saves. I usually have Shield, Absorb Elements, Misty Step and Mirror Image prepared as defensive options, and can use Shocking Grasp to disable bad guys' reactions and disengage without OAs.
My current plan is to take Skill Expert at Wizard 4, for increasing INT to 18, as well as gaining expertise in investigation, and proficiency in another skill (probably persuasion, because Enchanter with 8 CHA).
But I wonder if taking Warcaster would be a better option for the Wizard 4 feat? I'll be making a lot of concentration saves, and will have a few good single target spells to cast for opportunity attacks (e.g. hold person).
Which should be first: Warcaster, or Skill Expert increasing Int to 18 and getting expertise in investigation? I will take one at Wizard 4 and the other at Wizard 8.
My inclination is that increasing Int to 18 is more important, since it increases attack and spell DCsI have many defensive options to protect my concentration saves. But looking at spell lists, there are a lot of very valuable concentration spells I'll be learning between level 4 and level 8.