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Morof Stonehands
2022-12-19, 11:44 AM
Is there a way to empower Extraordinary abilities? I see options for SU and SP. Or perhaps just adding flat numbers to rolled dice on EX abilities?

System is 3.5 with all books/web/magazine content.

loky1109
2022-12-19, 12:46 PM
I searched for the same and couldn't find.

ShurikVch
2022-12-19, 01:58 PM
Which, exactly, EX we're speaking of?

(If ToB maneuvers - then I nave nothing on it)

Gruftzwerg
2022-12-19, 01:59 PM
As far as I know there is no overall boost option for EX abilities.

But some specific options are there (e.g Venomfire for Poison; a bunch of things boost Sneak Attacks;..).

So, if you can narrow it down to which EX abilities you wanna use/improve, there might be some specific options for that.

Morof Stonehands
2022-12-19, 02:07 PM
Happened to be looking at the Chaos Monk from dragon 335, their flailing strike is EX. Was hoping to find a way to boost the attacks given through some like Empower EX ability or another method of adding a flat bonus to the next unspecified die roll.

ShurikVch
2022-12-19, 02:19 PM
Invest in all those "roll twice, take the best" or/and "+die" abilities?
(Just not the "roll twice, take the second - even if it's worse"!)

pabelfly
2022-12-19, 02:37 PM
Since it's a Chaos Monk you can go with Barbarian and Whirling Frenzy to add an attack to your attack routine, if that's what you're looking to do.

Morof Stonehands
2022-12-19, 03:24 PM
Invest in all those "roll twice, take the best" or/and "+die" abilities?
(Just not the "roll twice, take the second - even if it's worse"!)

What are some that would work for this, because a lot I see are for specific for saves attacks etc

loky1109
2022-12-19, 03:31 PM
Happened to be looking at the Chaos Monk from dragon 335, their flailing strike is EX. Was hoping to find a way to boost the attacks given through some like Empower EX ability or another method of adding a flat bonus to the next unspecified die roll.

Action Points maybe?

ShurikVch
2022-12-19, 05:17 PM
What are some that would work for this, because a lot I see are for specific for saves attacks etc
There are some - but, unfortunately, almost all of my examples are 1/day:

PrC:
Chaotician 5 (Planar Handbook) - Destiny's Arbiter
Fatespinner 4 (Complete Arcane) - Resist Fate
Kishi Charger 9 (Oriental Adventures) - Dancing with the Fortunes
Visionary Seeker 8 (Planar Handbook) - Trick Fate
Zerth Cenobite 1 (Dragon #281) - Sense Fate

Domains:
Fortune (Oriental Adventures)
Luck (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/clericDomains.htm#luckDomain)
Luck (for Paladins, Dragon #328)

Items:
Luck Blade (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#luckBlade)
Mantle of Second Chances (Magic Item Compendium); 12,000 gp
Phaant's Luckstone (Ghostwalk); 1,000 gp; except it's not 1/day, but 1/use (may be expensive, but also - you can carry multiple)

Spells:
Alter Fortune (Player's Handbook II; Bard/Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard 3): target creature rerolls any die roll it just made; as immediate action; 200 XP

Races:
Chaos Gnome (Races of Stone) - Luck of Chaos

bean illus
2022-12-19, 08:15 PM
Spells:
Alter Fortune (Player's Handbook II; Bard/Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard 3): target creature rerolls any die roll it just made; as immediate action; 200 XP


Favored soul 2/ Sorcerer 1/ Mystic Theurge 8/ Chameleon 7

... can cast Alter Fortune ... 39 times per day (with Versatile Spellcaster)?

For some reason that sounds hilarious to me. Casts 5ths in all classes, so you would also have a few other abilities.

Yeah, I know that isn't what was asked. Srry

Thunder999
2022-12-19, 08:27 PM
If an average day has 4 CR=APL fights then you would actually be losing 2400xp per day at level 18 with that build.

Gruftzwerg
2022-12-19, 09:42 PM
Happened to be looking at the Chaos Monk from dragon 335, their flailing strike is EX. Was hoping to find a way to boost the attacks given through some like Empower EX ability or another method of adding a flat bonus to the next unspecified die roll.

A cheesy approach to maximize the amount of attacks on a chaos monk:

Ingredients:
1) be a Dragonwrought Kobolt - Chaos Monk (who would have thought that^^)
2) go for the TWF feat chain
3) Increase DEX to 25 somehow
4) pick up perfect TWF (epic) as a pre-epic "dragon" (cheesy but RAW, dunno if your DM will allow it ^^)

Now you can make the same amount of offhand attacks as with your mainhand.

and while we are at it, as Kobold you have claws and thus also qualify for Beast Strike if you want the lil extra dmg. Scales very good with the Sizing enchantment (on a Necklace of Natural Attacks). Go up to colossal size (-8 to hit) against low AC targets.

Morof Stonehands
2022-12-20, 09:04 AM
There are some - but, unfortunately, almost all of my examples are 1/day:

PrC:
Chaotician 5 (Planar Handbook) - Destiny's Arbiter
Fatespinner 4 (Complete Arcane) - Resist Fate
Kishi Charger 9 (Oriental Adventures) - Dancing with the Fortunes
Visionary Seeker 8 (Planar Handbook) - Trick Fate
Zerth Cenobite 1 (Dragon #281) - Sense Fate

Domains:
Fortune (Oriental Adventures)
Luck (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/clericDomains.htm#luckDomain)
Luck (for Paladins, Dragon #328)

Items:
Luck Blade (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#luckBlade)
Mantle of Second Chances (Magic Item Compendium); 12,000 gp
Phaant's Luckstone (Ghostwalk); 1,000 gp; except it's not 1/day, but 1/use (may be expensive, but also - you can carry multiple)

Spells:
Alter Fortune (Player's Handbook II; Bard/Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard 3): target creature rerolls any die roll it just made; as immediate action; 200 XP

Races:
Chaos Gnome (Races of Stone) - Luck of Chaos

These are great thanks!

bean illus
2022-12-20, 09:05 AM
Favored Soul 2/ Sorcerer 1/ Mystic Theurge 8/ Chameleon 7

... can cast Alter Fortune ... 39 times per day (with Versatile Spellcaster)?

For some reason that sounds hilarious to me. Casts 5ths in all classes, so you would also have a few other abilities.

Yeah, I know that isn't what was asked. Sry


If an average day has 4 CR=APL fights then you would actually be losing 2400xp per day at level 18 with that build.

Well I wasn't implying that it was mandatory to cast only that spell every day. But thanks for pointing out that Alter Fortune could be cast nearly every round (i still think that's hilarious).