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Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-01, 12:13 PM
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Dice Rolls (current) (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?478104-Adventures-in-Helnith-%96-Dice-Rolls&p=20408724)
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Recruitment (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?652844-Adventures-in-Helnith-Recruiting&p=25672716)


HOUSERULES
Players are reminded that we are using Gen IV as a base (where possible) for stats and move lists. Where differences exist within the Generation, we will be using Diamond and Pearl (not Platinum). Exceptions will be listed.


You can train your Pokémon whenever you have some time to kill and a reasonable amount of space to train in. You train your Pokémon by working with them uninterrupted for a certain stretch of time (dependent on level); you can fluff it however you like. Beyond that, there are no specific requirements other than that your Pokémon must be in reasonable state to be trained (i.e. not unconscious, asleep, or similarly inconvenienced) and you the trainer must be involved in the training (not asleep or doing something that would significantly distract you).

You can train a Pokémon up one level in (current level/10 drop decimal) hour(s) (or half an hour if they’re below level 10). You may only train one Pokémon at a time using this method.

Limitations:

You can only train one Pokémon at a time (i.e. leveling up both Sandshrew at level 11 and Pikachu at level 12 one level would take an hour EACH, so a total of two hours).
Each Pokémon is limited to a max of 3 levels by training in a day, and no more than 5 levels over a three day period. (Breaking this rule yields temporary stat loss and a Happiness hit due to exhaustion.)
Pokémon that are Shadowed or otherwise disobedient must succeed an Obedience roll to get the level up.




Pokémon at Daycare get the equivalent of one hour of training for every 8 hours in Daycare. Daycares charge per day the Pokémon is in their care, not per level gained.

Pokémon in the Daycare are not accessible via Box Storage; to retrieve them you will need to visit the Daycare you left them at.



Battle Options:
In addition to the usual options (Attack, Use Item, Switch Pokémon) you also have the option to order your Pokémon to Defend (halves damage for the course of the round) or Evade (Pokémon effectively has 1 evasion level for the duration of the round). In general, you are allowed 1 option per Pokémon per round, as in the games. You may also have a Pokémon Intercept attacks for one of its allies, see below for details.

Interception:

For every attempt at intercepting, the success rate goes down by 50% (so if the first intercept is 100% chance of taking the hit, the second is 50%, the third is 25% and so on). Note: That’s per attack, not per round. It goes down regardless of whether or not the attempt succeeds.
If you try to intercept while also attacking, the intercept fail chance starts at 50%, rather than 100%. If the attack is defensive in nature (EX: Protect, Iron Defense), it also has a 50% failure chance. If it isn’t defensive in nature, it fails outright, because you can’t stay between your interceptee and everyone trying to hit them while also chasing your target(s) around the battlefield. :smalltongue:


Multi-target Moves:

Stat reducing moves that hit more than one target (Leer, Growl, Tail Whip, String Shot etc…), will hit 10 targets for every 10 levels the user has (ie. Levels 1-10 will hit 10, levels 11 – 20 will hit 20, and so on). Also Smokescreen and Sand Attack are multi-target under this system.
Status inflicting moves that hit more than one target are 1 target for every 5 levels (ex: a level 15 Pokémon will be able to hit 3). Sing is multi-target under this system.
Damage causing moves that hit more than one target have the number of Pokémon hit determined by the stat ruling that attack. (EX: Rock Slide is Physical and is therefore determined by the Pokémon’s Attack stat, whereas Surf is Special and is therefore determined by the Pokémon’s Special Attack stat.) Exact number is determined as follows:


2 + ((Attacking stat the move uses - 20) / 10)

So for example, Swift uses the Special Attack stat to determine its damage. Sandslash has a Special Attack of 38. So for Sandslash, the number of targets hit will be:


2 + ((38-20) / 10) = 3 targets.

In other words, 1 target for every 10 points in the relevant stat, with a minimum of 2 targets. Attacks that can hit friend or foe have the number of targets split, and the user chooses half—the other half are determined randomly. (If it’s an odd number, the user gets to pick the ‘extra’ – in other words if the Pokémon will hit 9 targets, the user picks 5.) No Pokémon can be hit more than once, and the user can’t hit themselves.

Weather moves will affect everyone on the battlefield.
Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes will affect 1 target for every 5 levels the uses has, and has a percent chance to affect Pokémon over that limit. Equation is as follows:


= (user's level/5) / number of Pokémon on the affected side (including the one(s) being sent out)


Status Effects:
Some status effects have had their implementation tweaked from the handhelds.


Confusion:


Rounds confused:
Stays confused


Round 1:
80 or lower


Round 2:
60 or lower


Round 3:
40 or lower


Round 4:
20 or lower



Ends after 4 rounds max.

Sleep:
Sleep is 20% chance of waking up +10% per turn asleep.

Freeze:
Freeze is 20% change of defrosting +20% per turn frozen. Damaging Fire moves can thaw a frozen target.

General Attacks, Abilities etc. – Changes from the Handhelds:
Most attacks work as they did in Diamond/Pearl, except where unavailable or as specified otherwise.


Pokemon can learn up to six moves in Helnith, rather than four.

Defensive Stance only draws attacks directed at the user’s allies. (ex: Mina’s Natu and Houndour are fighting Zack’s Archeokat and Mr. Mime. Natu uses Me First on Houndour, Houndour uses Ember on Mr. Mime. Archeokat uses Defensive Stance. Houndour’s attack will be redirected to Archeokat, but Natu’s attack will hit Houndour, because it isn’t directed at Archeokat’s side.)

Natural Gift does not consume the held Berry.

Explosion does not halve Defense.

Copycat, Mirror Move etc. are not limited to attacks that only affect an opposing Pokémon, however their effects cannot be re-directed. If you Copycat a Milotic using Water Pulse, you will attack the Milotic with Water Pulse, you can’t use it on the hordes of Geodude around the Milotic. :smalltongue:

The following healing moves can be used on either the user or another Pokémon:

Heal Pulse
Softboiled
Wish (note that the healing still does not take place until the end of the following round)
Also, the move Softboiled no longer drains the user's HP, in or out of combat.

Pressure affects ALL moves the opposing Pokémon makes, not just offensive ones. On the other hand, if an allied Pokémon uses a move that will hit the Pokémon with Pressure, it won’t have its PP cost doubled.

Pokémon with field affecting abilities (Tyranitar’s Sand Stream, Abomasnow’s Snow Warning) will have the effects of their abilities wear off 5 rounds after they leave the field rather than last indefinitely. This is boosted to 8 rounds if they were using a Held Item that increases the duration of the effect (Smooth Rock for Sandstorm, Icy Rock for Hail etc…).

Intimidate affects the opposing Pokémon as long as the Pokémon with Intimidate is on the field, and will be renewed if the Pokémon opposing it switches out. (EX: Luxray with Intimidate is sent out against Sandshrew, Sandshrew is Intimidated. Sandshrew is recalled, Natu is sent out, Natu is now Intimidated. Natu is recalled, Sandshrew is sent out, Sandshrew is Intimidated again.)

Struggle works as it did in Gen III (recoil is based off damage dealt, not user’s max HP).

If Sturdy is activated more than once, its protective effects will have a failure chance for every time after the first, as with Protect, Endure, etc.

Destiny Bond can be targeted to a specific Pokémon rather than the last attacker. (EX: You're against a Bandra Officer's Pokémon and 6 Grunt Pokémon, you want to use Destiny Bond on the Officer's 'mon.) If this is done, however, the chance of it working is (User's level/(target's level*2))—so a level 25 Wobbuffet has a 50% chance of successfully bringing down another level 25 Pokémon, or a 25% chance of bringing down an opponent who is level 50, or a 12.5% chance of bringing down a foe who is level 100. The exception to this rule is if the target Pokémon ALSO happens to be the last Pokémon to attack, in which case it works as normal. Also, the Pokémon to land the knock-out blow will be unaffected unless it is also the targeted 'mon. (You can still only knock out one Pokémon with Destiny Bond, in other words.)

Mist now prevents positive stat adjustments on the affected side as well as negative.

The effects of Shadow Tag, Arena Trap and similar Abilities are limited to 10 Pokémon per 10 levels the Pokémon with Shadow Tag has, as with Tail Whip.

Growth uses its Gen V implementation.




When facing far superior foes, Pokémon may occasionally take damage more serious than a mere loss of hit points. This can result in broken bones and other injuries represented by stat loss. In general, Pokémon will regain 10% of a lost stat per day; this time can be cut in half with intensive care at a Pokémon Center but the Pokémon’s slot will be unavailable until it is returned to you. (Note: The nurse on duty will usually take badly injured Pokémon in for intensive care automatically, seeing as that’s her job.)

Occasionally, injuries will be serious enough to be permanent (EX: loss of a limb). Try not to let your Pokémon face foes that are significantly more dangerous than they are to avoid serious consequences!



There is a listing of Berries in the Character Stats page (Berry tab). This includes Helnith-specific Berries.

Other homebrew changes are as follows:


Oran, Chahal, and Sitrus will restore EITHER (respectively): 10, 20, and 30 HP OR 10%, 20%, and 30% of their max HP, whichever is higher. (EX: A Pokémon with 90 max HP will regain 10 HP from an Oran Berry while a Pokémon with 110 max HP will regain 11 HP.)
EV reducing Berries (Hondew, Qualot etc…) allow you to remove EV allocations from the stat they lower and re-allocate them somewhere else (1 point per Berry). This only applies to trainer-granted EVs; points from Vitamins, Gym victories, Power items (barring the Macho Brace) etc. can’t be re-allocated. (Else there’s no point in making them stat-specific, is there? :smalltongue:)
Chilan Berries now activate only on super-effective Normal attacks.
Growth Mulch requires Berry plants to be watered 5 times for max yield (1/stage plus once more—with reasonable gaps between waterings, watering twice in a 5 minute span will invoke DM ire) and Gooey Mulch allows you to skip 1 watering.
As we aren’t playing with Nature (and therefore no likes-flavor-X/dislikes-flavor-Y mechanic) Berries that previously caused confusion to Pokémon that don’t like a flavor now cause confusion based on type. List is as follows:

Figy – Fire, Electric, Fighting, Fairy
Wiki – Water, Ice, Ghost, Dragon
Mago – Psychic, Spectral, Normal, Dark
Aguav – Grass, Bug, Flying, Poison
Iapapa – Rock, Ground, Steel




In addition to their normal effects (lower Happiness and whatever other effects they have depending on the specific herb) the use of these herbs will increase a Pokémon’s resistance to disease by 50% for one day, or decrease the amount of time they spend sick by 50% for one day if they are already ill (ex: Pokémon would be sick for 3 days, you give it a Bitter herb on Day 1, it will now only be sick for 2 ˝ days). They can be used on successive days, just remember that Pokémon don't actually like these and will be taking a Happiness hit each time.



Pokémon are limited to +10 to each stat from vitamins. Exceptions/edge cases: if a Pokémon has a negative value in a given stat in the Vitamin column (ex: from Rare Candy usage or excessive egg laying), this can be counteracted with vitamins (EX: Mark’s Gardevoir has a -2 to HP from Rare Candy usage. Mark can apply 12 HP UP vitamins to bring it up to +10).

Zinc, Calcium, etc... increase the stat they affect by 1 per Vitamin.

Rare Candies subtract 2 from max HP for each one used.

The EV enhancing items (EX: Power Lens, Macho Brace) increase their respective stats by 1 point per level up and 1 point per two hours of training. (The points acquired from the Macho Brace can be applied to any stat.) EX: Training a level 20 Pokémon to level 21 while it has the Power Lens equipped will increase its Special Attack by 2—one for the level up and one for the two hours you spent earning the level up.) Each item gives a max of 20 points.

Pokémon can also gain permanent bonuses to their stats via earning Badges or defeating similarly dangerous foes like Bandra Officers or Legendary Pokémon. These bonuses will be stat specific, and are limited to +15 per stat regardless of source. (EX: Earning the Hammer Badge from Pellana will grant the participating Pokémon +15 Attack each.)

As noted below, Poffin will increase a Pokémon’s normal battle stats by up to +17 per stat (except HP which is capped at +34).



To mix Poffin, you need one or more Berries and access to a Blender. Berries are scattered throughout Helnith. Blenders you will usually find in Contest Halls, though of course smaller, portable versions exist.

The time used for Poffin making is calculated as follows:


65 – (1 per person blending) – (number of first guesses correct) = total time in seconds

For each Berry you mix into Poffin, you are required to guess 1 flavor of the resulting Poffin, starting with the highest flavor and going to the lowest, in order. (EX: You mix an Oran Berry, you have to guess the highest flavor. You mix an Oran Berry with a Hondew Berry, you need to guess the highest and second highest flavors.) You are required to guess the flavor itself, not the value of the flavor. As the Blenders don't get large enough to allow more than 4 Berries, the most you will ever have to guess is 4 flavors.

You give me all your guesses at once, like so:


1-Berry Poffin:

Highest:
1. Sweet
2. Spicy
3. Sour
4. Bitter
5. Dry


2-Berry Poffin:

Highest:
1. Sweet
2. Spicy
3. Sour
4. Bitter
5. Dry

2nd Highest:
1. Sour
2. Dry
3. Bitter
4. Sweet
5. Spicy

If your first guess is correct, you get a bonus of 1 second per correct first guess per flavor per person (so, two people mixing a total of two Berries can get 4 seconds off their time assuming they both guess correctly for both flavors). If your second or third guess is correct, you receive neither bonus nor penalty. Your fourth guess will accrue a Burn and you fifth guess will accrue two Burns.

You may, but are not required to guess flavors beyond the number required for the Poffin, for a possible boost in time or Spills for wrong guesses (works the same way as normal, but the fourth and fifth wrong guesses accrue Spills rather than Burns). You are also not required to guess all the remaining flavors if you choose to try for a bonus, but your guesses must still be in order from highest to lowest. (In other words: If you're mixing a two-Berry Poffin, and decide to guess a third flavor in addition to the two required, you have to guess the third highest flavor. But you don't have to guess the fourth and fifth highest after that unless you want to.)

If two flavors are tied for a spot, you can guess either of them and it will count as correct.

The Poffin will be ruined (Foul Poffin) if you accrue EITHER 5 Burns, 5 Spills or a combination of 6 total Burns and Spills.

Poffin affects stats as follows:

(Taste/Color/Condition)

All boosts are +1 to the stat for every 15 points of Condition. Conditions cap at 255, so the maximum stat gain in a category is 17 points.


Dry/Blue/Beauty – Special Attack
Spicy/Red/Cool - Attack
Sour/Yellow/Tough - Defense
Bitter/Green/Smart – Special Defense
Sweet/Pink/Cute - Speed

HP is boosted by increasing any of the other conditions, up to a max of 34 points. Also, you have a "Feel" cap of 255.

You can still feed your Pokémon Poffin after their Feel caps out, however, DOING SO WILL NOT INCREASE THEIR STATS IN ANY CATEGORY, it’s solely a roleplaying aid and Happiness boost at that point.

We aren’t playing with Nature so your Pokémon liking/disliking a certain flavor will not affect its Contest stat growth.



Unlike Gym battles, Contests are held at pre-determined times and cannot be participated in outside those times. (You can however practice outside those times.) Upcoming Coordinators would do well to make note of the Contest schedule.

Contests in Helnith are divided into the Appeal Round and the Battle Round; unless noted otherwise, you are required to use the same Pokémon for both rounds.

Appeal Round:
The purpose of the Appeal Round is to show off pure Contest stats and attack usage. The number of rounds you have to Appeal is dependent on the Contest; generally more advanced Contests have more rounds.

Battle Round:
The Battle Round is timed, and thus you also only have a limited number of rounds to compete with. The Battle Round ends with the time limit, or when one of the participating Pokémon is knocked unconscious. Scoring is similar to the Appeal round, but is modified as follows:
-1 for each 25% of max HP in damage your Pokémon takes
-1 if your attack misses or is ineffective
-3 if your Pokémon is knocked unconscious
+1 if you get an advantage from your opponent's attack (they use Water Pulse on Lapras with Water Absorb, Flamethrower on something with Flash Fire, the HP loss triggers Overgrow, that sort of thing)
No item uses are allowed by the trainer, but Held Items are fine.



In general, Psychic Pokémon can only use telepathy for communication with other Psychic types, or telepathic humans. Major benchmarks are as follows (details provided below):

Special Attack 50 – The Pokémon can psychically link with a non-telepath.
Special Attack 100 – The Pokémon can clearly read unguarded minds.
Special Attack 200 – The Pokémon can communicate with anyone not immune to telepathy. (Note: Dark types are immune to telepathy without the use of Miracle Eye.)

Psychic Link:
A mental link between a Psychic Pokémon and a non-telepathic human allows one-way telepathic speech and clear enough mind reading to fake two-way communication. However if the Pokémon gets knocked out there is a 25% chance the non-telepath will be knocked out by the backlash. (This is averted if both parties are telepathic.) Some powers will be easier to use on a linkmate; the linkmate will be counted as a ‘place visited’ for the purpose of Teleport, and at a combined Special Attack of 200 the two parties can sight share.

Mind Reading:
Prior to reaching Special Attack 100, Psychic Pokémon will only be guaranteed to get a general sense of someone’s thoughts, not the exact content. For example, say you’re interrogating a Bandra Grunt, and you ask them what the combination to their safe is. The Pokémon will be able to tell whether or not they’re lying when they answer, but only have a chance to pick the safe combination directly out of their skull. The chance is:


Pokemon’s Special Attack – (50 + (Target’s Special Defense – Pokemon’s Special Attack)) * 2 = % chance

Boost the roll by 10% if the Pokémon is making eye contact or physical contact with the target, 20% if they are doing both.



Teleport is much more flexible than in the handhelds, however, there are still limitations.

The Pokémon must Teleport to a place it has been or can see and locate.
Until it exceeds level 50 or Special Attack of 150, the Pokémon using Teleport MUST be in contact, directly or indirectly, with the person/Pokémon being teleported. (So you can have everyone hold hands and only one person actually touching the Pokémon; that counts.)
The Pokémon does NOT have to teleport everything it’s in contact with. (Otherwise they’d be taking chunks of the ground with them whenever they Teleport.)
Can’t transport Dark types with Teleport without the use of Miracle Eye. (Or a Pokéball. :smalltongue: It's a psychic power and they're immune to psychic powers.)
The Pokémon can Teleport 1 individual for every 20 points of Special Attack it possesses. The Pokémon itself does not count towards its Teleport limit.
You can't teleport into physical objects. (So don't worry about accidentally getting fused with a wall.)
Pokémon in Pokéballs don't count towards the Teleport limit.
The distance a psychic Pokémon can Teleport is as follows:


(Special Attack / 10) + Level Bonus = miles

Level Bonus:
Level 5 - 0
Level 10 - 0.25
Level 15 - 0.5
Level 20 - 1
Level 25 - 3
Level 30 - 5
Level 35 - 7
Level 40 - 10
Level 45 - 13
Level 50 - 16
Level 55 - 19
Level 60 - 22
Level 65 - 25
Level 70 - 28
Level 75 - 31
Level 80 - 34
Level 85 - 38
Level 90 - 42
Level 95 - 46
Level 100 – 50




Technical Machines (TMs) in Helnith are called Skill Machines (SMs). They are single use.

Hidden Machine (HM) moves can be overridden as normal moves. You don't need a Move Deleter to get rid of them. HMs are multi-use.

There is a Move Tutor/Move Relearner in Trainer Hill. Pokémon can be tutored with any attack they could learn up to their current level in any of the mainline games in addition to moves they could be tutored with. (Note: I am not counting Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee as mainline games, but X and Y or Scarlet and Violet would be fine.)



Some Pokémon can have their Abilities altered/upgraded intentionally. The list is on the Character Stats sheet on the “Non-Typical Abilities” tab.



Pokémon have a Shadow Gauge; when it reaches 100% the Pokémon will be Shadowed. The Shadow Gauge can go up a number of ways, the most common of which are as follows:

Abuse
Hit by a Spectral-type attack (Note: A KO by a Spectral attack will increase the victim’s Gauge to 100% in most cases)
Spending time in the Spectral Dimension

Spectral-type Pokémon are immune to Shadowing. Aura users (EX: Riolu, Togekiss) are more susceptible to being Shadowed and take longer to de-Shadow. Legendary Pokémon are rumored to be resistant to Shadowing.

Pokémon that become Shadowed are dangerous as well as difficult to control and will usually require an obedience roll to successfully direct in battle. Shadow Pokémon will still gain XP, but do not level up until they are cleansed. Also, Pokémon that become Shadowed have a small chance per round to enter a Shadow Rage. This chance goes up the lower the Shadow Gauge becomes.

Pokémon that enter a Shadow Rage are completely uncontrollable. They may also become mutated, resulting in different attacks, Abilities, typing, etc. after being cleansed.

Pokémon can be cleansed of Shadowing by bringing the Shadow Gauge back down to 0%. There are a number of methods with which to accomplish this:

Battle outside the Spectral Dimension
Cologne (once per day)
Purification Chamber or Time Flute (Note: This will completely cleanse the Pokémon)

Shadow moves cannot be Sketched, and a Pokémon that transforms into a Shadow Pokémon will have the moveset the target would have had as if it were NOT Shadowed unless the transforming Pokémon is also Shadowed. Likewise, a Shadowed Pokémon transforming into a non-Shadowed Pokémon will have a Shadowed moveset.



The mining minigame can be played whenever you’re in a place suitable for digging (EX: mountains, caves). You use the radar included in the Mining Kit to detect spots where treasure is hidden. After you locate a spot, you may proceed with a round of digging.

The game itself works a bit like a cross between the Pokéwalker Dowsing Machine game and digging in the Underground: I give you a row of fifteen numbers ranging from 1 to 3. That’s the depth of your stone. You have 10 ‘hits’ before the spot you work on collapses, destroying any unexcavated treasure.

As in D/P/Pt, you have two tools, the mallet and the pick. You choose which tool you’re using and which slots you’re hitting with it. Both the mallet and the pick subtract a certain amount from the ‘stone’ and the number of ‘hits’ you have left, which break down as follows:

Mallet: -2 ‘hits’ per use, Pattern (-1, -2, -2, -1)
Pick: -1 ‘hit’ per use, Pattern (-1, -2, -1)

Your goal is to get the stone numbers down to 0 before you run out of ‘hits’ and ideally find treasure, so choose your hits wisely. Item sizes range from 1 to 3 slots.

Please note that you can’t choose to distribute the hit over a pattern other than the one specified. (EX: Hitting slots A-D with the mallet on one swing is fine; hitting slots A, E, G, and L on one swing is not.) Also note, you’re free to switch between the two tools between hits.

Mining takes 1 hour for every round of the minigame you play.



Pokémon can ride one another provided the size and weight of the riding Pokémon is not beyond the carrying capacity of the ridden Pokémon. (No having a Pidgey carry an Onix, in other words.) During battle or other situations where the riding Pokémon may conceivably lose its perch, the formula for being thrown/falling off is as follows:


X+(5*Y)%

X = 50 if both parties are willingly participating, 0 otherwise.
Y = The number of crossed out numbers in Exercise 2A (Pokémon rider) or 2B (Pokémon being ridden)

When attacking, use the OTHER Pokémon’s Ride roll. (So if Houndoom is riding Skarmory, and Skarmory attacks, use Houndoom's modifiers to see if he falls off. If Houndoom attacks, use Skarmory's modifiers to see if he drops Houndoom.)

This roll can be modified by other factors, most noticeably if there is more than one Pokémon riding the same mount at the same time.

Also, when riding/being ridden on and being targeted by an attack that would only hit one of them, the rider/mount can make a roll to have the other Pokémon hit instead, EX: if Houndoom is riding Skarmory, and a Wispaferyn uses a Fire attack targeting Houndoom, they can roll to have Houndoom be hit instead.


(User's level/(target's level*2)) - ((Mount's Ride skill + Rider's Ride Skill)/200)

If the mount is a Flying type or has Levitate, the rider will also be unaffected by Ground moves (barring things like Gravity being in effect or other situations that would negate that immunity in the first place).

If either Pokémon has their Evasion increased, the effect is halved while they're riding/being ridden, however both Pokémon gain its effects. (Use whichever is higher.)


Name Rater:
Helnith does not have a Name Rater. You can change your Pokémon’s nickname whenever you like, and it doesn’t matter if you are their original trainer or you got them in a trade.

Mega Stones:
Mega Stones can be found in Helnith, but there are some differences from the main games: when you find a Mega Stone, odds are it will be unattuned to any particular Pokémon. This means that it will be a generic 'Mega Stone' rather than 'Charizardite X' and it must be attuned to a Pokémon species to be used. (The method to do this will be revealed later.) Once it has been attuned to a Pokémon, it cannot be re-attuned; in other words if you turn it into Charizardite X it can't be re-made into Ampharosite.

A held Mega Stone can be taken with Thief, Covet, or other item-stealing attacks, so be mindful of what you fight. They can also be rendered unusable via Embargo or similar attacks as a normal Held Item.

Happiness:
Happiness (as pertains to evolution) is determined as follows:

Pokémon generally begin with a Happiness rating of 70. Happiness evolutions occur at Happiness rating 220. A Pokémon’s Happiness rating can be affected in the following ways:

+1 for each day that passes in the real world. (Caps at 30)
+1 for each day that passes in the RPG.
+1 for each mile traveled during your adventures. (Note that Teleport travel doesn't count!)
+1 for each "natural" item used on it (Berries).
+2 for each vitamin used on it.
+2 for each EV-reducing berry used on it (Pomeg, Qualot, etc...).
+2 for each Poffin fed to it.
+3 each time it is sent out to battle. Bonus applicable once per battle.
+3 on learning a new move. Bonus applicable once per move. (So getting the HM for Cut and the HM for Strength and overriding one with the other over and over is only going to add to Happiness the first time you do it. :smalltongue:)
+5 each time it levels up.
-5 for each "bitter natural" item used on it (Bitter Herb, Revival Herb, etc...).
-10 for each level of training above the 3-in-one-day, 5-in-three-days’ maximum.
-20 on fainting.


If you find a Soothe Bell and equip it to the Pokémon, the positive effects of Happiness boosting things are doubled. Likewise for using a Luxury Ball. Using both at once increases the effect by x3, not x4 (ex: an Eevee in a Luxury Ball holding a Soothe Bell will gain +9 to its Happiness rating for being sent out into battle.)

Repel:
Repel lasts for a number of hours rather than a certain number of steps. Rate is as follows:

Repel – 2 ˝ hours
Super Repel – 5 hours
Max Repel – 7 ˝ hours

Badges:
As there is no active Pokémon League in Helnith, collecting Badges is strictly optional. Badges have no effect on your obedience chance for unruly Pokémon. Pokémon that assist in winning a Badge gain points to a stat determined by the badge. The maximum number of points a Pokémon can have from this category is +15 per stat.

Evolution:
Pokémon are restored to full HP when they evolve.

Held Items:
You can give or take Held Items to your Pokémon while they're still in their Pokéballs, but you need a Pokédex to do it and it will only work on your Pokémon. If you need to give something to someone else's Pokémon, you need to let them out.

Fast Ball
Since there's no programming flag in this game saying 'this is a Pokémon that flees' and I don't want to force you lot to play roulette with them, I'm using the HG/SS version of the Fast Ball: it works better on Pokémon with Base Speed of 100 or more instead of Pokémon that flee.

Egg Groups

Nidorina and Nidoqueen are in the Monster and Field (Ground) Egg Groups, same as Nidoran F.
Trapinch and its evolutions are in the Bug and Dragon Egg Groups.


Resting outside a Pokémon Center will heal your Pokémon slowly. This time must be spent resting, not traveling, training or battling. Pokémon with no stat damage or major status effects (EX: Poison, Burn) will be restored to full HP in three hours. Major status effects will usually go away in 12 hours. Stat damage heals at the normal rate; use a Pokémon Center to make it go away more quickly.

Evolutionary Stone prices have been altered from their base game values - rarer stones are now worth more.
Fire/Water/Thunder/Leaf: Buy 2100 PD - Sell 1050 PD
Sun/Moon: Buy 6300 PD - Sell 3150 PD
Shiny/Dusk/Dawn: Buy 10500 PD - Sell 5250 PD

essCee
2023-01-03, 08:01 PM
essCee, checking in. :smile:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-03, 08:02 PM
essCee, checking in. :smile:

I see you! :smallsmile:

Gnomes2169
2023-01-03, 10:28 PM
Red 5, standing by.


Do we want more people? I figure we have a good sized group right now, but I think I could handle one or two more.
Recruitment threads can be opened and closed as you need it, so if you wanted to look at the possibility of getting another player or two, you could open it up until you get them and then close it again until someone drops or you were interested in picking another person back up. And because this site has been updated since the invention of the internet, you can add tags to a recruitment thread to let people know if recruitment is open or closed without them needing to open the thread up.

Juuuuust adding some backstory naaaaaaaaaaames and nerds to this post.

Mark's dead friends.
-Jason Manden: Jericho (Froslass), Elijah (Lucario), Joshua (Gallade), Mary (Glacion)
Appearance: A young man with a serious but kind face. Has just a hint of a smile and eyes that seem to dance.
-Captain Maxwell Morris: Steelix, Flygon (He was uncreative)
Appearance: Older, looks like he was part of the Military for a few decades. Grumpy face.
-Alan Lorend: Guillotine (Scizor), Tank (Graveller), Oink (swinub)
Appearance: Looks like Zelgius, but he appears to be laughing. Must have been a twin...
-Markus Olen: Precious (Persian), Wraith (Haunter)
Appearance: Young, tall man with a wide belly and angry expression.
-Drake Bauer: Jolt (Pikachu), Spark (Quilava), Sprout (Leafeon) Appearance: Shorter man, more like a teenager, wearing thick glasses. He is holding paperwork and seems to be a little nervous.
-Zelgius Lorend: Avotre (Scyther), Gilliam (Larion), Jessia (Snorunt)
Appearance: The same old Zelgius, but well-rested, younger, unscarred and... happy.

Pants we know of
-Basic navy-blue jeans
-Sports shorts
-Tan cargo shorts

Shirts
-Blue "Kiss me I'm Johtan" t-shirt (Covered in ashes, very dirty)
-Black "I'm a tourist" t-shirt
-Black "Take me to your leader" t-shirt with multiple cartoon pokemon around the words.
-Red "You caught me at a bad time, I'm awake!" t-shirt.
-White "Ice, ice baby" t-shirt with a Frosslass on it.
-Black "You Only Die Once" t-shirt with a Haunter on it.

gorman
2023-01-04, 10:39 AM
Ah yep, I'm here too.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-04, 04:34 PM
Excellent, all are present and accounted for. :smallamused:

EDIT:

And we now have a Recruitment (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?652844-Adventures-in-Helnith-Recruiting) thread. :smallsmile: Yell if I'm missing anything you lot think should be included!

EDIT again:

We've had some interest in the Recruitment thread guys, we might get some new players soon-ish. :smallsmile:

Gnomes2169
2023-01-14, 10:22 AM
Just waiting for Pinklady to post on my end. :smallsmile:

And yaaaaaay new people! :smallbiggrin:

Edit: Oh hey, I know Feathersnow! We've played a few god games called Lords of Creation, where you basically make a setting for D&D by playing the gods of that setting and making stuff/ people/ D R A M A

Edit 2: Could move on if Pinklady doesn't have anything to add, was planning to train Jessia a level, so that my team is at least level 30.

WindStruck
2023-01-16, 09:15 PM
Hello everybody! I'm standing by!

Very interested to see what happens! :smallsmile:

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-16, 10:50 PM
Also chiming in to say hello! Looking forward to playing with you all!

Feathersnow
2023-01-17, 04:16 AM
Just waiting for Pinklady to post on my end. :smallsmile:

And yaaaaaay new people! :smallbiggrin:

Edit: Oh hey, I know Feathersnow! We've played a few god games called Lords of Creation, where you basically make a setting for D&D by playing the gods of that setting and making stuff/ people/ D R A M A

Edit 2: Could move on if Pinklady doesn't have anything to add, was planning to train Jessia a level, so that my team is at least level 30.


Hi! I remember!

I'm playing a lesser son of Johtoan nobility who acts like what he thinks Samurai were like!

Gnomes2169
2023-01-17, 10:30 AM
Hullo there new friends! Kareeah is going to make things harder now that we have all of you too. :smalltongue:

I'm playing Mark. A teen from Johto who's kinda a dork, has a prosthetic arm, draws stuff sometimes and has too many meme shirts. He also might have accidentally helped take down a Bandra taskmaster while he was disassociating hard. He's definitely better now though, no trauma at all, haha. Hahaha. He even stopped stuttering all the time and is doing all these kinds of mastermind-y things that might even make sense!

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-17, 04:44 PM
Intro post is up! Stat pages will be a bit longer. And the stat pages should be done too now, let me know if anything looks off - one exception: Lord Ruby your Nidorina's Egg groups are listed as Monster and Field(Ground), not No Eggs as in the handhelds. This is on purpose, as far as I'm concerned the No Eggs on Nidorina/Nidoqueen is a bug the devs kept around as it is nonsensical and nothing in their Pokédex entries suggests they aren't supposed to be able to breed, rather the contrary. I don't expect this to affect gameplay in the near future, but so you know.


Hullo there new friends! Kareeah is going to make things harder now that we have all of you too. :smalltongue:

Absolutely. :smallbiggrin:

The dreaded DMPC is named Mina. She is also from Johto, and tends towards trust issues and mild paranoia. She has been in the group the longest, being the only original group member remaining.

essCee
2023-01-17, 09:38 PM
Welcome, new folks! Y'all make it so I'm not the newest player anymore, yay :tongue:

I'm playing Pinklady. Loves her forest home back in Unova, wannabe Pokemon Ranger, definitely on the "peppy" side. Can't wait so see our characters meet and interact!

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-17, 11:03 PM
Hello!

Less if probably the oldest character in the group, at five-seven. Anyone who has traveled with him for more than a day likely knows that he used to be a teacher, whether he's said as much or not. Tends toward the serious and protective, especially where children are involved.

Gnomes2169
2023-01-17, 11:58 PM
I'm ready to move on to the next part of the adventure/ training on my end. I think I was just planning to do some training until around dinner time, and then call Wain after eating... so I guess I'll also train Tattersail 2 levels. Which should bring me to about 8 pm?

Also I will be feeding my Onyx, even though I'm not posting that IC. I'm not going to be mean and forget my rock snek, he's already had a bit of a rough time of it. :smalltongue:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-18, 04:38 PM
I'm ready to move on to the next part of the adventure/ training on my end. I think I was just planning to do some training until around dinner time, and then call Wain after eating... so I guess I'll also train Tattersail 2 levels. Which should bring me to about 8 pm?


10 PM. (Technically 10:30, but you know what I mean.) Remember Tattersail is level 30, so it's 3 hours per level-up for her now. Did you still want to do two levels for her?

WindStruck
2023-01-18, 06:25 PM
So as natives to Helnith (and also having no clue as a player), what might our new characters know about this Team Bandra?

FYI, I was thinking of playing it up as Flotsam being mostly ignorant about Team Bandra, but with a war that has gone on for years and big changes to the lands, it would be pretty hard to remain totally ignorant.

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-18, 10:52 PM
Following up on the above, what exactly might our characters know about the war? I imagine Less has been following it quite closely.

Also, is there any chance we could start with a higher than default happiness on one of our pokemon? I imagine that Less and Buck have probably been together for about fifty years now. For what it's worth I'm not planning on teaching Buck Return or any other happiness move at any point, but I imagine that it would be flavorful for them to be a little closer.

Gnomes2169
2023-01-19, 05:38 AM
10 PM. (Technically 10:30, but you know what I mean.) Remember Tattersail is level 30, so it's 3 hours per level-up for her now. Did you still want to do two levels for her?
Ah heck, thought it was still noon. In that case, I'll do one level for her and then give the ranger a call.

gorman
2023-01-19, 03:26 PM
I completely forgot how to access this thread (until now clearly LUL) ... I fail at life

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-19, 06:46 PM
So as natives to Helnith (and also having no clue as a player), what might our new characters know about this Team Bandra?


Bearing in mind this is what is commonly known by the average person in Helnith and not all of it is necessarily correct:


Bandra formed about seven years ago. The typical Bandra uniform is black and purple, and their emblem is a spiky purple ’B’. Their leader is known in most circles as Triple B (“Big Boss Bandra”).

Not counting their leader, there are generally three tiers of Bandra forces:

Grunts - These are the most common. Their uniform is a shirt, hat, black pants and a mask. They are also bottom of the barrel as far as rank and skill level. Their Pokémon usually consist of Rock, Ground, and Fighting Pokemon, and Wispaferyn (Bug/Fire Helnith Pokémon), with a smattering of other species and types, but with a strong tendency towards Pokémon that are common and easy to use. It’s not unheard of for Grunts to have Pokémon outside of those bounds, but in general more unusual Pokémon belong to…

Taskmasters - The war has been going on for seven years, and more people have been leaving Helnith than coming in, with the end result that anyone in Bandra with any degree of skill or experience has been promoted to Taskmaster. Taskmasters tend to be in charge of specific minor missions or set to oversee Grunts. Their uniforms resemble those of the Grunts, but they have a vest in addition to the above.

Officers - The highest tier aside from Triple B. Last count, there were about eight of them. It’s not uncommon for them to not bother with face coverings, since the relevant authorities know who most of them are anyway.


Altros - lowest-ranked of the Bandra Officers, he was arrested early in the game after his defeat by Dream and the player party. Currently cooling his heels in Steltag Prison.

Hannah - Coordinator. Last spotted meeting with Darrin in Ternai Town but previously spent a lot of time in Keida Village.

Darrin - Former resident of Hiresh Asylum. Killed Elite Four Tethys and is currently in possession of said Elite’s Pokémon - including the Legendary Pokémon Acquegon. Widely considered the most dangerous trainer in Bandra after Triple B. Largely responsible for the lack of actual police in most of Helnith. Recently took over Ternai Town.

Baynor - Driven out of Hillsbreak a few weeks ago along with the Bandra forces under his command, hasn’t been seen since. Assumed to still be at large.

Tenma - Bandra’s resident evil scientist. Last seen during the Bandra conquest of the Shrine of Light, but the Shrine was retaken recently and he wasn’t there. Location unknown.

Kerry - Telepath, and as you would expect specializes in Psychic types. In or around Stardust City at last report.

Noren - Runs Seapoint and the area around it. He took over the settlement in question early in the war by claiming to be a Gym challenger and used the ‘Gym Leaders can’t switch during official matches’ rule to take the Gym Leader out of the equation. Side note: if you do challenge a Gym Leader to an official match, they no longer use that rule.

Ray - Runs the southern part of the region (Coastmarch, Jikero, sometimes as far west as Plainshaven.) The last few months he’s been moving around a lot more; the rumor mill isn’t sure why. He was in charge of Tidepath, but Dream took it back while Ray was occupied elsewhere.

??? - kept his face covered, rumored to have a Moltres. Location unknown. There are a few rumors he had a falling out with Triple B and is out of the picture entirely, but nothing confirmed.




Following up on the above, what exactly might our characters know about the war? I imagine Less has been following it quite closely.

Anything particular you’re curious about? I put some info in the Bandra Officer block above. Beyond that the thing most relevant to you is


Emilia contacted you not long before she disappeared; she was down south, being chased by Bandra Officer Ray.



Also, is there any chance we could start with a higher than default happiness on one of our pokemon?

Absolutely. I don’t usually keep track of it unless it’s relevant (EX: for evolution) but I can add it to Buck’s stats.


I completely forgot how to access this thread (until now clearly LUL) ... I fail at life

Suggestion: Click the Thread Tools at the top of the page and click the option to subscribe. That should make it easier to keep track of.

Also: Introduce your character to our new players! :smallsmile:

WindStruck
2023-01-19, 07:58 PM
That is a lot of information! More than I would expect Flotsam to ever know.

I still do have some pressing questions though. What are Team Bandra's actual (or stated) goals? Does anyone know?

What other changes have they caused? From the looks of it, maybe some destroyed towns, made barren wastelands, and caused a bunch of rain elsewhere? Anything else?

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-20, 09:24 AM
Just making sure I have everything straight. We're in Rieva, but I don't see it on the map. Can you tell us where the village is located? Found it.

As far as the war, how did it start? What is team Bandra's stated goals? Do they have non-pokemon based forces? What forces actually stand in opposition? Are there any regular organized forces left who oppose them? What do they do when they take over a town or some other kind of territory?

I know that's a lot of questions. Apologies. I make no promises that I won't have more later.

essCee
2023-01-20, 03:01 PM
I have a couple things in mind for Pinklady to do now hers and Mark's meal and intros are over - reading up about Cosmas in her dex and contacting Mina - but also, since she's in the same location as the new folks, just later in the day, I'd like to wait a bit for their catch-up to possibly interact with them just after the meal.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-20, 05:47 PM
I still do have some pressing questions though. What are Team Bandra's actual (or stated) goals? Does anyone know?

As far as the war, how did it start? What is team Bandra's stated goals?

Short answer: they are out to take over Helnith. There is more to it than that, but some of it you’re going to have to wait until you meet the rest of the group for, as while the party has discovered it, it isn’t general knowledge.

Through Emilia, Less will know that
Triple B is Selene Icharias, the League Champion, and her fiancée died not long before the whole mess started. Emilia at least thought the two were connected, though it had seemed to her at the time that Selene was dealing with his death as well as anyone could. The ‘start a team of bad guys, conquer the region’ bit was very unexpected.


What other changes have they caused? From the looks of it, maybe some destroyed towns, made barren wastelands, and caused a bunch of rain elsewhere? Anything else?

That’s the bulk of it: they’re taking over towns, killing people who oppose them, and they’re mucking around with the local Legendary Pokémon. That last caused Salerdia’s absence for the last five years, which in turn caused the region to die off (she’s back now, but the damage doesn’t go away overnight) – for example the area around Siltis Village used to be grassy, and wild Pokémon in Helnith are rarer than in other regions.

The dimensional rifts opening at regular intervals predates Bandra, and is none of their doing.


Do they have non-pokemon based forces?

I’m not sure what you mean by this. They have a little more in the way of hardware than the rest of Helnith does (a few helicopters, vehicles, some tech that their opponents either don’t have or refuse to use).


What forces actually stand in opposition? Are there any regular organized forces left who oppose them?


Aside from the party, there is the Starlight Squad, but they suffered a serious defeat not long ago – kicked out of Stardust City, chased through the Shrine of Light, retreated all the way to Ternai Town only for Bandra Officer Darrin to attack as soon as they started striking back. Their leader was killed – rumor has it by one of the Squad - and of his three lieutenants, one of them was lost during the aforementioned striking back, and the Squad is split between the other two. Subsequent finger-pointing and distrust mean that’s not likely to change without some outside intervention.

Beyond that, the Gym Leaders of the towns that have them are protecting their towns as best they can, Dream (and Emilia when she was around) is running interference, and Salerdia was spotted about three weeks ago.

In theory the Ranger Union is also opposed to Team Bandra, but in practice they're spread too thin to be useful as an organization; most of the region's police forces being wiped out means they're covering those in addition to their own duties.



What do they do when they take over a town or some other kind of territory?

Kill everyone who opposes them, hang the bodies of the people they killed in public places as a warning to others, take whatever they want, generally oppress the population and act like they own the place. That sort of thing.


I know that's a lot of questions. Apologies. I make no promises that I won't have more later.

That’s okay, every time I give you more info I keep having to apply the mental filter ‘but did we hear this from a Legendary Pokémon, in another dimension, or from some other source that would not be available to the average Helnith citizen?’ so don’t be surprised if I chime in with extra details later, either! :smallsmile:

Bandra has the Radio Tower, and the newspaper is mostly only in circulation in Skybreak City due to heightened security there, so news doesn’t travel well.


I have a couple things in mind for Pinklady to do now hers and Mark's meal and intros are over - reading up about Cosmas in her dex and contacting Mina - but also, since she's in the same location as the new folks, just later in the day, I'd like to wait a bit for their catch-up to possibly interact with them just after the meal.

Sounds good!

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-20, 07:21 PM
Thanks for the rundown! It's exceedingly helpful.





I’m not sure what you mean by this. They have a little more in the way of hardware than the rest of Helnith does (a few helicopters, vehicles, some tech that their opponents either don’t have or refuse to use).



I guess I'm asking how much they have in the way of men with guns. (Or swords? I know there was one pokemon episode way back when that had a gun in it, but I'm not sure it's still true that guns exist in the pokemon universe.) Or people that are willing to do violence without pokemon.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-20, 08:47 PM
I guess I'm asking how much they have in the way of men with guns. (Or swords? I know there was one pokemon episode way back when that had a gun in it, but I'm not sure it's still true that guns exist in the pokemon universe.) Or people that are willing to do violence without pokemon.

Not many (although guns do exist). Anyone who has spent more than fifteen minutes around the average Bandra Grunt knows very well that they’re going to end up shooting themselves in the face sooner rather than later if you give them guns.

WindStruck
2023-01-21, 12:58 AM
Wow, Team Bandra sound like total jerks. :smallyuk:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-21, 10:41 PM
Wow, Team Bandra sound like total jerks. :smallyuk:

Yeah, some bad guy Teams may have good intentions and just go too far with them - Bandra is not one of those.

Gnomes2169
2023-01-22, 03:47 AM
Wow, Team Bandra sound like total jerks. :smallyuk:

Jessie and James they are not, no. Nor are they Maxie. Who WAS NOT WRONG. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJs9wNOHEnk) If I need a pokemon with Surf and a freaking gym badge just to I can go shopping at the mall, then clearly there's too much water.

gorman
2023-01-22, 07:49 AM
Ok DM, I'm by the newbies, what do you want me to do now? :smallbiggrin:

WindStruck
2023-01-22, 08:01 AM
Ok DM, I'm by the newbies, what do you want me to do now? :smallbiggrin:

Maybe you could start by saying hello? Perhaps start with a line of dialogue like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs)?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-22, 08:39 AM
Maybe you could start by saying hello?

Pretty much this; between the thunderstorm (and remember your ride here is off on a sidequest for the foreseeable future, so if you want to go anywhere you’re going to have to walk through that) and plentiful excellent free food immediately available, I think I’ve been as unsubtle about this as I can be short of having one of the NPCs scribble “Socialize with the new players, curse you!” across Matt’s forehead with a sharpie. :smalltongue:

Gnomes2169
2023-01-22, 10:06 AM
Hmmm... HMMMMMM... this war being 5 years old, methinks we might be able to ret-con a bit of Mark's backstory so that his original group was here two years ago instead of just 9 months or whatever it as before. Yes. Yes. Gives him more opportunity to adjust to being a cyborg boi with his robohand. Yesssssssss...

Because we're still going with the backstory I came up with when I was an angsty 17 year old, not with a full rewrite. Oh god that was almost 12 years ago. AAAAAAAAAA. :smalleek:

... Checking my homebrew signature, I'm still an angsty boi tho-

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-22, 10:13 AM
Hmmm... HMMMMMM... this war being 5 years old, methinks we might be able to ret-con a bit of Mark's backstory so that his original group was here two years ago instead of just 9 months or whatever it as before. Yes. Yes. Gives him more opportunity to adjust to being a cyborg boi with his robohand. Yesssssssss...

Seven years for the war. Five years ago is when Salerdia went missing and everything started to die off.

Gnomes2169
2023-01-22, 10:18 AM
Well, either way, Mark still had the opportunity to have the arm for a larger window than I at first assumed. So hey. Kid could have it slightly less rough.

... I abused this boy so much. But it was for CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

WindStruck
2023-01-22, 12:26 PM
Pretty much this; between the thunderstorm (and remember your ride here is off on a sidequest for the foreseeable future, so if you want to go anywhere you’re going to have to walk through that) and plentiful excellent free food immediately available, I think I’ve been as unsubtle about this as I can be short of having one of the NPCs scribble “Socialize with the new players, curse you!” across Matt’s forehead with a sharpie. :smalltongue:

But.. but I think he'll need a mirror or two to read the writing on his forehead! :smallbiggrin:

It sounds like you guys are thinking of traveling to an island soon? And you might have difficulty navigating the water? I'm not sure if my character can help mechanically, but.. you'd THINK she could help in some way? That could be as good a plot point as one can hope for.

If not, that's okay. Flotsam probably will not be moving far, unless prodded. So it's totally your fault if you miss this opportunity and leave her playing carefree in a puddle outside. :smalltongue:

Feathersnow
2023-01-22, 12:34 PM
And... hey! I have a Ditto. If you have a pokemon with Surf, I make two! And I've already volunteered to help!

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-22, 01:27 PM
It sounds like you guys are thinking of traveling to an island soon? And you might have difficulty navigating the water? I'm not sure if my character can help mechanically, but.. you'd THINK she could help in some way? That could be as good a plot point as one can hope for.



Tidepath is aptly named; during low tide, it's possible to walk there, although the distances involved usually means leaving about an hour and a half before the lowest point to get to the other side before it starts coming back in again. East side has water at all times of the day, and that's where the cruise ships and other large vessels dock, but between high and low tide all the water on the west side is rushing in or out, so you don't have ferries to cross the water except around high tide.

There used to be roads you could traverse at any time, but they're in serious disrepair, and of course with the war no one has the time or money to fix them.



If you have a pokemon with Surf, I make two! And I've already volunteered to help!

We don't have a Pokemon with Surf, that's why I had the Ranger bring it up. Mind you, I'm not requiring your Pokemon to have Surf to traverse the water in general, but it'll be like sailing across on a raft with a couple shirts for a sail vs. using a motorboat - it'll get you there, but not quickly or efficiently and heaven help you if you need to run from Bandra forces on the open water.

I will be limiting the number of people Lapras can carry to four, though, so effectively having two of them will be useful regardless. :smallwink:

I will also point out that most of you have three days (Mark has two) before we're launching this attack, so it's not out of the question to go find the Surf HM.

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-22, 03:29 PM
I don't think Less will be able to help much with any water travel for now. Princess is a little too small to be able to ride. On the other hand, Buck can make a land journey go fairly quickly, though he can probably only handle one rider at a time.

gorman
2023-01-23, 06:14 PM
I'm sorry...

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-24, 08:41 PM
I'm sorry...

No problem, just making sure you’re up to speed.

EDIT:


"Oh, of course, I'll call Mark now and see if he's in the area." I say as I pull out the phone app on the pokedex, find Mark's number and dial it. "Hey Mark, if you're in the Rieva vicinity would you be able to swing by the pokemon center? There's some inquiring minds here that are asking questions I lack answers for. I thought you would be a better alternative than I."

Gnomes, this is about the same time you were talking to Lijan - right in between evolving Marick and leveling up Sengar. I’ll let you squeeze it in, just keep it short and mind the timeline.

WindStruck
2023-01-27, 05:51 AM
It's kind of hard to tell what's going on. Like, who's where, who's doing what, who is talking to who...

I guess Matt was mostly speaking on the phone, but the last sentence was directed at Flotsam and/or Less?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-27, 07:28 AM
It's kind of hard to tell what's going on. Like, who's where, who's doing what, who is talking to who...

Flotsam, Akio, Less and Matt are in the Pokémon Center in Rieva together. Matt just called Mark (as I mentioned in the Recruitment thread the Pokédexes have texting and phone functionality) to ask him to come visit, but Mark is ahead of you (and everyone else) timeline-wise so he’s telling Matt he will come by later, after you have caught up.


I guess Matt was mostly speaking on the phone, but the last sentence was directed at Flotsam and/or Less?

Yes, or at least that was my read of his last post.

Gnomes2169
2023-01-28, 06:56 AM
... I just remembered that I can give Mark a color for his dialogue to make it stand out on this site. Oh my god. THE CONVENIENCE!

Well let's see here... Mark is from Johto... So let's test out a few different variation of a pokemon crystal color.

Edit: Best one for readability is this one, even if the second to last is closer to the pokemon crystal cartridge color. So this is Mark's voice now.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-28, 08:31 AM
Would it be helpful if I gave Mina a color? (I’m not picking out colors for the regular NPCs regardless, there are too many of them.)

Gnomes2169
2023-01-28, 10:05 AM
She's always angry, but not blazingly. Just kinda a simmering thing. Also she's from Kanto, iirc so... Maybe some Fire Brick? For the region and the temper. :smalltongue:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-28, 12:07 PM
She's always angry, but not blazingly. Just kinda a simmering thing. Also she's from Kanto, iirc so... Maybe some Fire Brick? For the region and the temper. :smalltongue:

She's from Johto, actually.

I usually go with indigo, both because it's got good contrast and seems to be an unpopular color. :smallconfused:

Feathersnow
2023-01-28, 07:10 PM
Okay. So I'm still here, just unsure how to interject before we catch up with Mark.

Gnomes2169
2023-01-29, 09:22 AM
She's from Johto, actually.

I usually go with indigo, both because it's got good contrast and seems to be an unpopular color. :smallconfused:

Oh right. She and Mark came from the same country. Just different towns. Hekk.

Indigo is good. People should appreciate purple more.


Okay. So I'm still here, just unsure how to interject before we catch up with Mark.

Generally, training your pokemon a few levels or going hunting for wild pokemon are relatively good ways to "fill some time." Kareeah usually doesn't kill people with random pokemon encounters. Usually. :smalltongue:

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-29, 12:20 PM
Indigo is good. People should appreciate purple more.


+1

I'm planning on waiting for the phone call to go ahead before posting anything more. If we have some time to kill after that and before Mark joins us Less will probably spend some time training his Pokemon that like the rain.

essCee
2023-01-29, 02:33 PM
So, if I've got all the colours chosen so far right, they're...

Floatsam... Less... Matt... Mark... Mina... (if you go with indigo)

I feel like a pink would be nicely distinct and fitting for Pinklady! :smalltongue:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-29, 03:03 PM
Also for the people in the Pokémon Center who are not Matt: this conversation is going to be loud enough that you can hear it if you're choosing to listen in, so you can chime in yourselves without having to wait for Matt and ask questions.

gorman
2023-01-30, 06:52 PM
Yeah trying to... uhm... force conversation and trying to remember things is not my strong suit and it's making me want to just.... not... play this anymore...

WindStruck
2023-01-30, 07:58 PM
Yeah trying to... uhm... force conversation and trying to remember things is not my strong suit and it's making me want to just.... not... play this anymore...

Sorry you feel that way.

From my perspective, it's pretty tough to just jump into the middle of a game that's already been running. I'm trying to do whatever plothooks are thrown my way, but seems we're just at a bottleneck, and it feels like the flow of everything is bogged down.

I don't want to make you feel "forced" to do anything, so I'll see myself out. From the pokemon center.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-30, 08:06 PM
Hold on, I've got something I was going to save until after the conversation but I can do it now since that's stuck.

EDIT:

There we go. And now you can have some hands on experience instead of a lecture. :smallbiggrin:

(Also note to self: find an evil emoji replacement.)

WindStruck
2023-01-30, 09:31 PM
I was thinking, let's not do anything drastic. If Mark has been talking about a need a pokemon with Surf, then when they get here, maybe that will be a good incentive for a conversation?

Oh. Well. Too late now I guess.

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-30, 11:22 PM
Danger and excitement always bring a party together. It's practically tradition.

Gnomes2169
2023-01-31, 04:51 AM
It appears that excitement is happening while Mark is busy until sunset. Alas. I have been betrayed by my own HUBRIS! And my desire for sweet, sweet gardevoir levels. But mostly it's my hubris.

I'll just sit off to the side while you kids have fun. :smalltongue:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-31, 06:43 AM
Danger and excitement always bring a party together. It's practically tradition.

That’s the idea, yes. :smallsmile:


It appears that excitement is happening while Mark is busy until sunset. Alas. I have been betrayed by my own HUBRIS! And my desire for sweet, sweet gardevoir levels. But mostly it's my hubris.

I'll just sit off to the side while you kids have fun. :smalltongue:

You know you can get levels up by poking your nose into trouble too, right? :smalltongue:

When we get to the actual fighting part, I’ll let you and essCee run the opposing side if you want, so you aren’t sitting around doing nothing.

essCee
2023-01-31, 08:17 AM
Sounds good!

WindStruck
2023-01-31, 08:24 AM
Here's a suggestion... you were on the phone asking a friend to call another friend and see how they are doing.

Why not, uh.. call Mina yourself? That's something you could be doing, having a conversation at least. :smalltongue:

Gnomes2169
2023-01-31, 10:13 AM
You know you can get levels up by poking your nose into trouble too, right? :smalltongue:

When we get to the actual fighting part, I’ll let you and essCee run the opposing side if you want, so you aren’t sitting around doing nothing.
Well yes, but I'm making plans to go get in trouble, Kareeah! Gosh. Getting well and truly oopsie goofed takes a lot of preparation, I'll have you know. :smalltongue:

Oooooooooo... like how I made life difficult for Mina earlier. Very nice, very nice. :belkar:


Here's a suggestion... you were on the phone asking a friend to call another friend and see how they are doing.

Why not, uh.. call Mina yourself? That's something you could be doing, having a conversation at least. :smalltongue:

SHHHHHH, that would be LOGICAL. We can't have me being that here. Kareeah, could we let Mark call Mina during dinner instead of being a total dork?

gorman
2023-01-31, 06:27 PM
Sorry you feel that way.

From my perspective, it's pretty tough to just jump into the middle of a game that's already been running. I'm trying to do whatever plothooks are thrown my way, but seems we're just at a bottleneck, and it feels like the flow of everything is bogged down.

I don't want to make you feel "forced" to do anything, so I'll see myself out. From the pokemon center.

I just honestly don't know how to answer the questions you guys are asking... And god forbid I go back 30+ pages in game to try and find a suitable answer LOL

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-01-31, 10:37 PM
Gnomes, essCee, here are the flock's statblocks:


Pokémon: Honchkrow lvl 35 (Shadowed)
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Super Luck
Gender: Female
Level: 35
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 125
Attack: 103
Def: 52
Sp. Attack: 89+15
Sp. Def: 52
Speed: 65+15
Moves:
Snarl (SM)
Swift (tutor)
Twister (tutor)
Nasty Plot
Swagger
Wing Attack
Shadow Moves:
Shadow Rush
Shadow Mist
Shadow Sky
Shadow Storm
Invigorate (Homebrew – Cures status effects like Poison, paralysis etc. and lets the user act twice in a round, once at normal Speed and once at half Speed)
Ether Focus (Homebrew - bumps up crit ratio, Attack, Special Attack, and Speed)

Pokémon: Murkrow A, B (Shadowed)
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Insomnia, Super Luck
Gender: Female, Female
Level: 30
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 85
Attack: 65
Def: 39
Sp. Attack: 65
Sp. Def: 39
Speed: 68
Moves:
Peck
Pursuit
Haze
Wing Attack
Night Shade
Assurance
Shadow Moves:
Shadow Rush
Shadow Mist
Shadow Sky
Shadow Storm
Shadow Panic
Ether Focus (Homebrew - bumps up crit ratio, Attack, Special Attack, and Speed)

Pokémon: Murkrow C, D, E, F
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Insomnia, Super Luck, Super Luck, Super Luck
Gender: Male, Female, Female, Male
Level: 25
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 72
Attack: 55
Def: 33
Sp. Attack: 55
Sp. Def: 33
Speed: 58
Moves:
Peck
Pursuit
Haze
Wing Attack
Night Shade
Assurance

Pokémon: Murkrow G, H
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Insomnia, Insomnia
Gender: Female, Male
Level: 20
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 60
Attack: 45
Def: 28
Sp. Attack: 45
Sp. Def: 28
Speed: 47
Moves:
Peck
Astonish
Pursuit
Haze
Wing Attack


Split them up however you like. And if you don't want to run them, let me know that too, so we can keep this running.


Kareeah, could we let Mark call Mina during dinner instead of being a total dork?

Sure. :smallsmile:

Lord Ruby34
2023-01-31, 11:56 PM
Can I give orders to Pokemon the same turn I send them out in this battle? (Hero and Dancer?) I assume not, but I'm not sure.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-01, 07:04 AM
Feels like I'm talking a lot. Could suggest a move to Gypsy too if you want.

Up to you, she just needs to be freed for most of her attacks to do any good.

Also, could you specify which attack King is supposed to be using? He’s got multiple moves that could fit that description.


Can I give orders to Pokemon the same turn I send them out in this battle? (Hero and Dancer?) I assume not, but I'm not sure.

Yes you can, if they’re just being sent out and not replacing a Pokémon already on the field. So right now you have Leo and Princess out, if you send out Hero and Dancer in addition to them, then they get to attack, but if you recall Leo and Princess to put Hero and Dancer in their places then they don’t.

Let me know if that doesn’t make sense, there’s been confusion on that in the past.

WindStruck
2023-02-01, 08:44 AM
Well, I think it would be best if King did water pulse. Seems it could potentially hit a lot of targets, and maybe even confuse them.

As for poor gypsy, I dunno.. I think, maybe Flotsam should just tell her to try to calm down, and Focus!

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-01, 10:00 AM
Yes you can, if they’re just being sent out and not replacing a Pokémon already on the field. So right now you have Leo and Princess out, if you send out Hero and Dancer in addition to them, then they get to attack, but if you recall Leo and Princess to put Hero and Dancer in their places then they don’t.

Let me know if that doesn’t make sense, there’s been confusion on that in the past.

I think I've got it, but let me know if I did everything right.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-01, 11:28 AM
Gnomes, essCee, here are the flock's statblocks:


Pokémon: Honchkrow lvl 35 (Shadowed)
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Super Luck
Gender: Female
Level: 35
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 125
Attack: 103
Def: 52
Sp. Attack: 89+15
Sp. Def: 52
Speed: 65+15
Moves:
Snarl (SM)
Swift (tutor)
Twister (tutor)
Nasty Plot
Swagger
Wing Attack
Shadow Moves:
Shadow Rush
Shadow Mist
Shadow Sky
Shadow Storm
Invigorate (Homebrew – Cures status effects like Poison, paralysis etc. and lets the user act twice in a round, once at normal Speed and once at half Speed)
Ether Focus (Homebrew - bumps up crit ratio, Attack, Special Attack, and Speed)

Pokémon: Murkrow A, B (Shadowed)
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Insomnia, Super Luck
Gender: Female, Female
Level: 30
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 85
Attack: 65
Def: 39
Sp. Attack: 65
Sp. Def: 39
Speed: 68
Moves:
Peck
Pursuit
Haze
Wing Attack
Night Shade
Assurance
Shadow Moves:
Shadow Rush
Shadow Mist
Shadow Sky
Shadow Storm
Shadow Panic
Ether Focus (Homebrew - bumps up crit ratio, Attack, Special Attack, and Speed)

Pokémon: Murkrow C, D, E, F
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Insomnia, Super Luck, Super Luck, Super Luck
Gender: Male, Female, Female, Male
Level: 25
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 72
Attack: 55
Def: 33
Sp. Attack: 55
Sp. Def: 33
Speed: 58
Moves:
Peck
Pursuit
Haze
Wing Attack
Night Shade
Assurance

Pokémon: Murkrow G, H
Type: Dark/Flying
Ability: Insomnia, Insomnia
Gender: Female, Male
Level: 20
Held Item: None
Stats--
HP: 60
Attack: 45
Def: 28
Sp. Attack: 45
Sp. Def: 28
Speed: 47
Moves:
Peck
Astonish
Pursuit
Haze
Wing Attack


Split them up however you like. And if you don't want to run them, let me know that too, so we can keep this running.

Sure. :smallsmile:

I'll handle the shadowed pokemon, I guess. I can be... very 'fun' with them. >:D

And great! ... Mark's going to be exactly as dorky as he's always been, there's no hope for the lad I'm afraid. :smallfrown:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-01, 06:10 PM
Well, I think it would be best if King did water pulse. Seems it could potentially hit a lot of targets, and maybe even confuse them.

As for poor gypsy, I dunno.. I think, maybe Flotsam should just tell her to try to calm down, and Focus!

Thank you! Noted. :smallsmile:


I think I've got it, but let me know if I did everything right.

Looks good from this angle!

EDIT:

For our new players (and some of our old players too), the multi-target rules are in the first post under "Battle." To summarize: for damaging moves you get one target for every 10 points you have in the relevant attack stat, with a minimum of two targets. Moves like Earthquake or Surf that hit friend or foe you pick half and the other half are random, but Bubble and Swift aren't in that category.

WindStruck
2023-02-01, 11:32 PM
It's interesting reading the entire battle log. Almost does feel like one massive, epic pokemon game.

And then, hilariously enough, tons and tons of actions, and then a snippet of casual phone call underneath all that. :smallbiggrin:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-02, 12:29 AM
I have a mechanical question about Intimidate. The ability only triggers once, right? Affecting only Pokemon on the field at the time the Pokemon with Intimidate is sent out? Or am I misunderstanding a mechanic?

WindStruck
2023-02-02, 04:42 AM
I have a mechanical question about Intimidate. The ability only triggers once, right? Affecting only Pokemon on the field at the time the Pokemon with Intimidate is sent out? Or am I misunderstanding a mechanic?

Oh yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure, why is this mechanic even happening?

And it seems like the more we are winning (as in the more crows get KO'd), then the more of our own team gets more scared, which makes no sense. :smallconfused:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-02, 07:33 AM
I have a mechanical question about Intimidate. The ability only triggers once, right? Affecting only Pokemon on the field at the time the Pokemon with Intimidate is sent out? Or am I misunderstanding a mechanic?

I’ve been running it such that it’s active as long as the Pokémon is out on the field; it’s not like the Pokémon stops being scary the first time you see it, and there are plenty of ways around it, including just sticking to Special attacks.

That said, this isn’t the first time this has caused confusion so if you guys want to argue in favor of sticking to the handhelds’ method by all means make your case.



And it seems like the more we are winning (as in the more crows get KO'd), then the more of our own team gets more scared, which makes no sense. :smallconfused:

When something’s hostile to both sides, fewer targets means a greater likelihood of being on the receiving end of whatever is trying to intimidate you.

I acknowledge this would be more intuitive if it were a rampaging Raikou doing the intimidating and not cute little fluffballs like Shinx and Luxio, but the cute little fluffballs have Intimidate and Raikou doesn’t, so… *shrug*

WindStruck
2023-02-02, 09:01 AM
Oh, it's the Luxio. So, maybe the trick is, getting it to think we're a friend! :smallsmile:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-02, 09:56 AM
I'm generally fine with Intimidate working either way, but I do have a few more questions.

1. Does Intimidate work normally when there are multiple intimidate users on one side of the battlefield? (I.E. drop attack X stages, where X is the number of Pokemon with Intimidate?
2. Does the attack drop from Intimidate stick around after the Intimidating Pokemon switches out or faints?


Assuming the answers to the above are yes and no respectively I'm going to compare this version of intimidate to the handheld games. Why? Because I'm a massive nerd, that's why! If my guesses as to your answers were wrong then please ignore everything else in the spoiler tag.

First Scenario. One on One Pokemon battle, one Pokemon has intimidate. This has exactly the same result no matter which version of Intimidate is used.

Second Scenario. Team Battle. The Pokemon with Intimidate wins it's first one on one, and does not switch out. This version means that any Pokemon that fights against the intimidating Pokemon is weaker, which makes Intimidate more powerful. In fact, an intimidating Pokemon is a pretty brutal wall against any physical attackers. With this version of Intimidate there is no way to double switch to get rid of the attack reduction. As long as the intimidating Pokemon is present, you're weakened.

Third Scenario. Team Battle. The Pokemon with Intimidate loses it's one on one, or is forced to switch out. If the attack drop does not persist, this weakens the Intimidate ability, as it goes away when the Pokemon does.

Forth Scenario. Team Battle, pivots. The value of intimidate is far lower here than it might otherwise be. For example, let's pretend we have a Torterra out on one side of the field. Pretend we're the other trainer. Our best answer to Torterra is something like a silver wind from a frail Bug Pokemon, but it's not necessarily a one shot. Earthquake, on the other hand, will probably one shot our bug if we switch in. If intimidate works like it does in the handheld games, we can try to get our bug in after a series of defense drops. Right now, we have a water Pokemon out. We can assume a grass attack, and switch into something like Luxio, dropping Torterra's attack and easily taking a razor leaf or giga drain, especially after lowering Torterra's attack. Then, in anticipation of Earthquake on our Electric type, we can switch in Gyarados (pretend it doesn't have any flying type attacks for this example), cutting attack again while dodging earthquake. Now, we're safe to switch our bug in, and silver wind twice, almost certainly surviving the earthquake (as long as it doesn't crit) that we're hit with on the second turn. But if Intimidate doesn't stick around after the intimidating Pokemon is gone, we can't make this play, as the earthquake will likely cleanly knock out our bug, no matter what we do.

Fifth Scenario. Multibattle with two sides, and enough Pokemon that intimidate doesn't hit everything. With this version of intimidate, as long as the intimidating Pokemon is on the field the enemy team is debuffed. That debuff will spread to the stronger Pokemon as their weaker allies fall. This makes good flavorful sense. With the handheld rules, the Pokemon that were intimidated at the beginning of the fight are the Pokemon who are intimidated, full stop.

Sixth Scenario. Multibattle with more than two sides, and enough Pokemon that not all targets are intimidated. (Current situation.) With the current intimidate rule, this can lead to some awkwardness. As the stronger side eliminates the weaker Pokemon without intimidate, then the Pokemon that weren't originally intimidated become scared because of their own success. Awkward flavor. With the Handheld version of the ability, the Pokemon that are intimidated at the beginning stay intimidated, and no additional Pokemon will become intimidated.

Seventh Scenario. Multibattle with many Pokemon with the Intimidate ability on one side. Either way, this sucks if you're trying to attack physically. With the current rule, there's no way to stop this from sucking. Your physical attacks are going to do next to no damage, so you better have some special attacks to clear out some of the intimidaters. With the handheld ability, you can swap twice to clear the debuff, but you'll suffer from not attacking or using any moves for two turns. Or you can clear with special attackers.

Additional note. The RPG format doesn't lend itself to cleanly having Pokemon come out at the same time, every time. That could make applying the handheld ability awkward.

/End Tangent. My opinion is still that I'm basically fine with the ability working either way, though if it doesn't work the same way as in the games it should probably be noted in a tab on the first page.


This rambling has also made me realize that Less should probably get a dedicated special attacker on his team. He's leaning pretty heavily towards the physical side at the moment. Hero will help out after evolution and a lot of SMs, but that'll be a ways away.


EDIT: Question came to me. For actual trainer battles are we playing on switch or set mode?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-02, 07:48 PM
Oh, it's the Luxio. So, maybe the trick is, getting it to think we're a friend! :smallsmile:

Yes. :smallwink: It also functions as a bit of a cushion since this is the first in-game fight for most of you.



1. Does Intimidate work normally when there are multiple intimidate users on one side of the battlefield? (I.E. drop attack X stages, where X is the number of Pokemon with Intimidate?

Correct, if there had been 3 Luxio with Intimidate, the Attack drop would have been three levels.



2. Does the attack drop from Intimidate stick around after the Intimidating Pokemon switches out or faints?

No, Pokémon with Intimidate can’t be intimidating if they’re unconscious or not present.




Assuming the answers to the above are yes and no respectively I'm going to compare this version of intimidate to the handheld games. Why? Because I'm a massive nerd, that's why!


That is absolutely fine! :smallbiggrin: I would much rather any issues come up in OoC hypotheticals than in the middle of something IC. They’re easier to fix that way.




Seventh Scenario. Multibattle with many Pokemon with the Intimidate ability on one side. Either way, this sucks if you're trying to attack physically. With the current rule, there's no way to stop this from sucking. Your physical attacks are going to do next to no damage, so you better have some special attacks to clear out some of the intimidaters. With the handheld ability, you can swap twice to clear the debuff, but you'll suffer from not attacking or using any moves for two turns. Or you can clear with special attackers.



This scenario would be problematic regardless, if you came to it without warning. But making a team of all Physical attackers is like making a team of Pokémon that are all one type; there are going to be situations where you’re at a disadvantage when you specialize, and if you plan to specialize, also plan some counter-measures for those situations.




/End Tangent. My opinion is still that I'm basically fine with the ability working either way, though if it doesn't work the same way as in the games it should probably be noted in a tab on the first page.



This is absolutely correct. Should be added now (under “Battle”).

Which also reminds me, I need to note the non-typical Abilities somewhere. Might put that in a tab on the Excel sheet though.

(The relevant bit for you is that you can give Dancer Insomnia if she holds an Espresso while she evolves, if that is something useful or of interest to you.)



This rambling has also made me realize that Less should probably get a dedicated special attacker on his team. He's leaning pretty heavily towards the physical side at the moment. Hero will help out after evolution and a lot of SMs, but that'll be a ways away.

Never hurts to be prepared.



EDIT: Question came to me. For actual trainer battles are we playing on switch or set mode?

Not familiar with the terminology. What do you mean?

In the mean time (going back to being prepared) I’ve got the rest of your list and the rest of WindStruck’s as far as Pokémon you’re interested in, but everyone else, throw out a few Pokémon you’d want to have. It’s been a while since I asked for some of you and it would be nice to have a record on this forum, in addition to any updates you may or may not want to make. :smalltongue:

EDIT: Gnomes I need targets for that Shadow Storm. It's a Special move so it hits six seven because guess what happened.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-02, 10:34 PM
Ah, I thought Shadow Storm was the weather/ field move, but I'll select some targets, one sec...

Edit: Targets have been selected. Shadow bolts have been fired. Everyone gets ZZZZZZAPPED.

WindStruck
2023-02-02, 10:37 PM
Another question. Do wild pokemon ever target humans in these games, if they have their own pokemon out?

I know this is very similar to the handheld games so... no?

Though I have heard stories of some trainers being captured or killed so I guess I assume that might only happen after all their pokemon faint?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-02, 10:55 PM
Ah, I thought Shadow Storm was the weather/ field move

Oh, that’s Shadow Sky. I blame Gale of Darkness for being horribly uncreative with their Shadow move names. :smallyuk:


Another question. Do wild pokemon ever target humans in these games, if they have their own pokemon out?

I know this is very similar to the handheld games so... no?

Though I have heard stories of some trainers being captured or killed so I guess I assume that might only happen after all their pokemon faint?

They can. With wild Pokémon it’s a lot more likely if they’re Shadowed. Usually the trainer’s Pokémon will protect them.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-03, 06:01 AM
Oh, that’s Shadow Sky. I blame Gale of Darkness for being horribly uncreative with their Shadow move names. :smallyuk:

Well, I wrote what I wrote and selected targets, so we'll just go with Shadow Storm this time.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-03, 09:50 AM
Not familiar with the terminology. What do you mean?


In the handheld games (at least gen IV and prior, I haven't made my way through the later games yet.) there's a setting that asks you whether you'd like to go with the default or change to set mode.

The default, switch mode, is that when you knock out an opponent's Pokemon the game tells you what Pokemon your opponent is going to send out and gives you the opportunity to switch. Notably, the opposing trainers do not have this option.

Set mode simply means that your opponent will simply send out their next Pokemon after one faints. This is the default for online battling, and is what is used (to the best of my knowledge, which is admittedly not much) for competitive Pokemon.



In the mean time (going back to being prepared) I’ve got the rest of your list and the rest of WindStruck’s as far as Pokémon you’re interested in, but everyone else, throw out a few Pokémon you’d want to have. It’s been a while since I asked for some of you and it would be nice to have a record on this forum, in addition to any updates you may or may not want to make. :smalltongue:


I'll go with some updates/rehashing. Assumption is that I fail to catch anything before the list becomes relevant (and omitting anything present in the current encounter). No particular order, though Beldum/Phantasea/Naedire is at the top. But I'm honestly easy to please. EDIT: If I were to pick additional Pokemon from later gens this list gets a lot longer. Like I said, easy to please.

1. Beldum line
2. Phantasea
3. Naedire
4. Magnimite line
5. Eevee
6. Rotom
7. Mankey Line (Browsed Gen IX and Annihilape is really cool)
8. Bagon line
9. Electrike line
10. Slowbro Line
11. Feebas Line
12. Shuckle
13. Lucario Line
14. Spiritomb
15. Any tanky Pokemon with a type combination that includes two of (Steel, Psychic, Electric, Grass, Ghost)
16. A bunch of Pokemon from gen V+, with Mudsdale topping the list.

EDIT: After reading through the last IC thread, the Pokemon that taskmaster had at the shrine of light were both really cool, and could be put up there with Beldum. Phantasea and Naedire.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-03, 10:12 AM
In the mean time (going back to being prepared) I’ve got the rest of your list and the rest of WindStruck’s as far as Pokémon you’re interested in, but everyone else, throw out a few Pokémon you’d want to have. It’s been a while since I asked for some of you and it would be nice to have a record on this forum, in addition to any updates you may or may not want to make. :smalltongue:

Oh hey, didn't see this one. Honestly my team is pretty solid right now, but I wouldn't mind picking up:
-Any of the Snivy line
-Any of the Rowlet line (either-or for the Rowlet/ snivy. They're m' BOIS, but two grass starters seems a bit redundant)
-Any of the Tyranitar line
-Any of the Dragonite line
-One of the "Lesser" legendaries (you know, Latias, Latios, Suicune, etc). This is definitely going to happen and is very reasonable.
-A totally reasonable level 1 Arceus and all the type orbs. This is absolutely reasonable. The most reasonable request I've ever made. This won't just get power-leveled and become stupid. Don't worry about it. :smalltongue:

Feathersnow
2023-02-03, 10:29 AM
Pokemon requests-

Litwick line
Goomy line
Kommo-o line

essCee
2023-02-03, 12:20 PM
In the mean time (going back to being prepared) I’ve got the rest of your list and the rest of WindStruck’s as far as Pokémon you’re interested in, but everyone else, throw out a few Pokémon you’d want to have. It’s been a while since I asked for some of you and it would be nice to have a record on this forum, in addition to any updates you may or may not want to make. :smalltongue:



Whoo list update! All aren't just the Pokemon but the line overall

1. Makuhita
2. Venomoth
3. Fearow
4. Burmy
5. Altaria
6. Pinsir
7. Dunsparce

Since Dunsparce's evolution came 7 gen later and requires a move it didn't get until then, I'm guessing Dudunsparce is off the table?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-03, 03:51 PM
The default, switch mode, is that when you knock out an opponent's Pokemon the game tells you what Pokemon your opponent is going to send out and gives you the opportunity to switch. Notably, the opposing trainers do not have this option.

Set mode simply means that your opponent will simply send out their next Pokemon after one faints. This is the default for online battling, and is what is used (to the best of my knowledge, which is admittedly not much) for competitive Pokemon.


I don’t think I’ve ever codified it, but in general one-on-one official, League-sanctioned fights like Trainer Hill (and Gym fights, which I spell out because it has tripped up one or two players before) are switch mode, with the caveat that the opposing trainer CAN also switch. (In general, I try to assume that the rules that apply to the party are the same rules that apply to the NPCs. Also, PvP has happened occasionally.)

Double battles and free-for-all fights like the one you’re currently engaged in are set.



-A totally reasonable level 1 Arceus and all the type orbs. This is absolutely reasonable. The most reasonable request I've ever made. This won't just get power-leveled and become stupid. Don't worry about it. :smalltongue:

:smalltongue:



Since Dunsparce's evolution came 7 gen later and requires a move it didn't get until then, I'm guessing Dudunsparce is off the table?

Remember the Move Tutor can tutor moves for other Generations, as long as your Pokémon is the level to learn the move in that Generation. So in other words, you can get Dudunsparce, but your Dunsparce has to get to level 32 and then you need to tutor Hyper Drill onto it first.

But that is not a no. :smallwink:

WindStruck
2023-02-03, 03:59 PM
I guess I'll say for the record, I kinda like my pokemon cute and unevolved. Kind of like how Ash always had this Pikachu that was insanely strong but never turned into a Raichu?

But that said, Flotsam really does like her pokemon and wants them to be happy, so, if they want to do the evolving, then.. whatever! :smalltongue:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-03, 06:41 PM
I guess I'll say for the record, I kinda like my pokemon cute and unevolved. Kind of like how Ash always had this Pikachu that was insanely strong but never turned into a Raichu?

But that said, Flotsam really does like her pokemon and wants them to be happy, so, if they want to do the evolving, then.. whatever! :smalltongue:

Up to you either way; I will probably let you know when they're capable of evolving, but don't feel pressured.

WindStruck
2023-02-03, 07:18 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/79wgam.jpg

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-03, 08:56 PM
Yeah, Shadow Pokemon get scary precisely for that reason - there's a small-to-moderate chance they will randomly blow up in your face.



Is it possible to use a potion on the Luxio?

Insofar as is it possible? It's a wild Pokemon, but it's also pretty battered and you guys haven't been attacking it, so sure. Item use takes a Pokemon's action for the round though.

WindStruck
2023-02-03, 09:34 PM
Insofar as is it possible? It's a wild Pokemon, but it's also pretty battered and you guys haven't been attacking it, so sure. Item use takes a Pokemon's action for the round though.

I guess it's worth the effort and better than not trying. :smalltongue:

Will edit IC post slightly then.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-04, 07:38 AM
Well okay I knew shadow pokemon were scary but I was *not* expecting that... Oh right. It also critically hit at least one of those targets.

... Shadow Storm + the 5 extra levels from raging + the boosted attack stat are still insanely nasty as a combo. But worry not, for I am merciful. Only one pokemon is getting nuked this round. :smallbiggrin:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-04, 09:51 AM
I guess it's worth the effort and better than not trying. :smalltongue:

Will edit IC post slightly then.

I should clarify, it takes one of YOUR Pokémon’s actions for item use. I can let it slide this once and use the Luxio’s action instead, but you probably want the Electric type active against the hostile bird Pokémon.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-04, 10:53 AM
Well, I have a plan that might work here. It's definitely what I would call a bad plan though.

Also, question about metagaming/play-by-post formatting. I was considering withdrawing Hero this turn (because she's low level and has basically done what she can this fight), but now that she's been targeted by a powerful attack it feels odd to withdraw her, especially as I wasn't able to check in last night. I think I'll leave her in this time to avoid the issue, but how should we handle declaring actions that could invalidate opposing actions in the future?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-04, 02:15 PM
Also, question about metagaming/play-by-post formatting. I was considering withdrawing Hero this turn (because she's low level and has basically done what she can this fight), but now that she's been targeted by a powerful attack it feels odd to withdraw her, especially as I wasn't able to check in last night. I think I'll leave her in this time to avoid the issue, but how should we handle declaring actions that could invalidate opposing actions in the future?

Normally it's the DM running the opposing side and you don't find out what they're using until the round results are posted. Though in the future, hmm. We did private messaging on the old forum sometimes. We could do spoiler tags for the round actions in PvP situations maybe? What would work best for you lot?

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-04, 02:57 PM
Hmm. There's no problem when the DM is posting. But for PvP . . . Maybe mutual PMs, and then you can post both responses?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-04, 03:18 PM
Hmm. There's no problem when the DM is posting. But for PvP . . . Maybe mutual PMs, and then you can post both responses?

I don't have any issue with that.

WindStruck
2023-02-04, 03:25 PM
I should clarify, it takes one of YOUR Pokémon’s actions for item use. I can let it slide this once and use the Luxio’s action instead, but you probably want the Electric type active against the hostile bird Pokémon.

Um. Yeah, sorry. I thought that was what you meant. I thought since I was using an item on the Luxio, that its turn was being used up, assuming it didn't just continue to leave.

edit: Spoiler tags should work nicely. Should clearly label what parties should/should not be reading though to make cheating easier though! :smallamused:

WindStruck
2023-02-04, 03:29 PM
"Gastly Hynosis Murkrow A, Flaaffy Thundershock the Honchkrow, if its down hit Murkrow A with Thundershock instead, Ratman Bite Murkrow A, please go first and make that bird flinch, I can't lose the rest of you to shadowing again damn it!" I could feel my eyes starting to water and despair wash over me like the battle in the Shrine of Light when one attack wiped out the whole team. This battle was like a reminder that shadowing's a very dangerous condition with only one strange cure, I think to myself while subconsciously rubbing the pocket of my backpack that held the Time Flute. Wait a second...the TIME FLUTE.... I could have just tried to use THAT to cure these stupid shadowed krows! Oh god and I think of that NOW?! My temples throb from sudden pain and my free hand goes to my head, pain causing my eyes to squint... Damn it.

You know, I had also been thinking about that flute.. Any reason it can't be used? Is it a really limited item or something?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-04, 07:49 PM
Lord Ruby I wasn't clear if by 'strongest Pokémon still standing' you mean 'most HP remaining' or 'highest level' so I went with the option that would let me wrap up the fight. Hope that's okay.

And to be absolutely clear: you can catch wild Shadow Pokémon, the dice just weren't cooperating in this case. :smallyuk:

Also I think Flotsam stole your Luxio. :smalltongue: (Don't fret, they're a pretty common Pokémon in the area you're in.)


You know, I had also been thinking about that flute.. Any reason it can't be used? Is it a really limited item or something?

Kind of. They're ancient artifacts, so they aren't very durable and will break after a number of uses.

WindStruck
2023-02-04, 08:40 PM
Wait.. who's pokemon did I steal..? I don't think it used to belong to someone, did it? :smallconfused:

Or, I guess that's just a joke.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-04, 08:46 PM
Or, I guess that's just a joke.

Yeah, I'm just teasing.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-04, 11:03 PM
Lord Ruby I wasn't clear if by 'strongest Pokémon still standing' you mean 'most HP remaining' or 'highest level' so I went with the option that would let me wrap up the fight. Hope that's okay.

And to be absolutely clear: you can catch wild Shadow Pokémon, the dice just weren't cooperating in this case. :smallyuk:

Also I think Flotsam stole your Luxio. :smalltongue: (Don't fret, they're a pretty common Pokémon in the area you're in.)


I meant highest level, so I'll try to be clearer in the future. Though I certainly don't mind you taking the interpretation that will end the fight the soonest.

Like I said, I'm easy to please! Shame about the bad luck with the Ultra ball though. I'm sure something else will come along soon. :smallsmile:

Also, I think I'm going to give the levels to Princess and Hero, for their outstanding performances, even if Leo did manage to get the finishing blow. EDIT: New EVs to HP for both of them, if that works.


Wait.. who's pokemon did I steal..? I don't think it used to belong to someone, did it? :smallconfused:


No, I had Shinx/Luxio at the top of my original list for desired encounters. But I think it makes for the better story if you get the little one to tag along with you here.

gorman
2023-02-05, 09:25 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/79wgam.jpg

To be fair I DID warn everyone LOL

Gnomes2169
2023-02-05, 10:26 AM
... If Y'all take the shadowed birds to the pokemon center with you, I suggest wrapping them in newspapers to keep them from acting out on their rage when they wake up. Like how you transport chickens.

https://images.ctfassets.net/f60q1anpxzid/asset-ef46cec9c3e0d8cabe1cd8f7dedd5983/7e5e9afdb65dc567655acee2d7825a6e/chickens-evacuate.jpeg?fm=jpg&fl=progressive&q=50&w=1200

Wrapped barely contained fury :smallbiggrin:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-05, 10:31 AM
That's one of the best pictures I've seen in a while. :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: We probably don't have newspapers, but maybe a tweed jacket will do for one.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-05, 11:09 AM
It's also raining. Very heavily. So newspapers probably won't work until you get indoors anyway. :smallfrown:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-05, 11:12 AM
Obviously, we need trash bags and tape.

WindStruck
2023-02-05, 01:24 PM
The image I think of for Less is Gaspar from Chrono Trigger...

https://kanto.legiaodosherois.com.br/w760-h398-cfill/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/legiao_G0bXnEm7cOLhlHsu9C1Ky6a4jFYvSgJMQ_38oUPdiI. jpg.webp

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-05, 01:42 PM
The image I think of for Less is Gaspar from Chrono Trigger...


Ooh, that's good too.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-05, 07:32 PM
That's one of the best pictures I've seen in a while. :smallbiggrin:

Hear, hear! :smallbiggrin:

WindStruck
2023-02-06, 07:15 PM
I'll have Gypsy pass up Twister.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-06, 07:30 PM
Gorman, don't forget you have level-ups to allocate!


I'll have Gypsy pass up Twister.

Noted. :)

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-06, 07:36 PM
Kareeah_Indaga, would you mind elaborating on what the Unown tiles are, if they're common enough for our characters to have come across them before?

Also, would you like for us to manage our own inventories? While the calculations for stats appear to be beyond me, we can probably reduce your workload by managing our own inventories.

As for division of loot, I think Less would like one of the heart scales and one of the Pokeballs. He'll take the poison gem if no one else wants it, and any of the sell-able items that no one else claims.

WindStruck
2023-02-06, 07:49 PM
Also, would you like for us to manage our own inventories? While the calculations for stats appear to be beyond me, we can probably reduce your workload by managing our own inventories.

Ah yes, I could manage Flotsam's inventory as well. Should be a breeze, considering she doesn't have a bag, nor any pockets...

Where does she keep the Pokéballs? No clue.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-06, 08:18 PM
Kareeah_Indaga, would you mind elaborating on what the Unown tiles are, if they're common enough for our characters to have come across them before?

They're square ceramic tiles small enough to fit in your hand (~1 1/4 inch or 3 cm for those of you using metric) with a single Unown glyph on one side. They are common artifacts in Helnith, found pretty much anywhere you can dig. The general populace doesn't know the intended use for them, but it's not uncommon for people to collect them as you would coins and swap them for the glyphs they want.


Also, would you like for us to manage our own inventories? While the calculations for stats appear to be beyond me, we can probably reduce your workload by managing our own inventories.

The big difficulty there is I'm not 100% sure how to make specific tabs within the sheet editable without making an entirely new sheet.



As for division of loot, I think Less would like one of the heart scales and one of the Pokéballs. He'll take the poison gem if no one else wants it, and any of the sell-able items that no one else claims.

Which ball?

And this reminds me: the Glitter Ball boosts the Contest stats of the Pokémon caught with it, although since this is a 'free' boost it doesn't affect their combat stats. You can still use it to evolve Pokémon that need that (EX: Feebas) though. It has the same catch rate as a normal Pokéball.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-06, 08:35 PM
They're square ceramic tiles small enough to fit in your hand (~1 1/4 inch or 3 cm for those of you using metric) with a single Unown glyph on one side. They are common artifacts in Helnith, found pretty much anywhere you can dig. The general populace doesn't know the intended use for them, but it's not uncommon for people to collect them as you would coins and swap them for the glyphs they want.


Neat! That sounds like the type of thing Less would take, as long as no one else makes a priority claim.



The big difficulty there is I'm not 100% sure how to make specific tabs within the sheet editable without making an entirely new sheet.


Ah, gotcha. i suppose we could keep our own sheets, but that sounds less convenient than having them all in one place.



Which ball?

And this reminds me: the Glitter Ball boosts the Contest stats of the Pokémon caught with it, although since this is a 'free' boost it doesn't affect their combat stats. You can still use it to evolve Pokémon that need that (EX: Feebas) though. It has the same catch rate as a normal Pokéball.

Whichever one is claimed last, with a preference toward the net ball if others are also ambivalent.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-06, 08:46 PM
Something else to note for new players: anything not explicitly claimed from the loot will vanish into the ether, so if you're not sure you want something and no one else wants it, grab it. You can always get rid of it later.


Ah, gotcha. i suppose we could keep our own sheets, but that sounds less convenient than having them all in one place.

That was my thought too, but if anyone knows how to tweak the tab permissions in Google Docs, by all means speak up.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-06, 09:02 PM
How far is it from where we are back to the Pokemon center?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-06, 09:17 PM
How far is it from where we are back to the Pokemon center?

About two miles.

WindStruck
2023-02-06, 09:19 PM
Wow we ran pretty far. Hope we don't get lost trying to get back. :smalltongue:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-07, 11:23 AM
Less will help carry the Honchkrow, assuming Matt doesn't have any objections to the plan.

gorman
2023-02-07, 06:44 PM
Put all of Gastly's EV's into Speed I guess.... I'll take any unclaimed items since I kinda blew all my money on massage oils like a dingus....

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-07, 07:05 PM
Okay, are you guys restraining the Shadow Pokémon before you traipse them back to town and if so how? You already brought up using Less’ coat and belt, you can use that for both Murkrow since they’re on the small side OR the Honchkrow but not all three. (Also I added Less’ coat and cane and Akio’s armor to their respective inventories, just so I don’t forget they have those and give grief later on if they come up.)

The Mining Kits don’t have rope in them (its contents are as follows: a mallet, a pickaxe, a little short-range radar thing for detecting items, some little baggies for rocks and such and the bag containing all of this) so you’ll have to improvise something.

Also loot recap (stuff without a strikethrough is in the ‘claimed unless someone else wants it’ category, I’ll give a day or two for people to speak up):

Rare Bone - LESS
Thick Club - MATT
Crumpled up ball of aluminum foil - MATT
Water Stone - MATT
Human skull - MATT
Beach Glass x4 - LESS
Mining Kit - adding 2 from Matt’s inventory with the intention of each new player getting one so FLOTSAM, LESS, AKIO and -2 for Matt
Heart Scale x2 - one for LESS, one up for grabs (MATT if no one else wants)
Lone Earring - LESS
Poison Gem - LESS
Relic Copper - LESS
Chipped Pot – inside is a receipt you can barely make out, with a delivery address in Skybreak City - MATT
Glitter Ball* - MATT
Net Ball x2 – one for LESS, one up for grabs (MATT if no one else wants)
Wide Brimmed Hat with bug netting built in - MATT
Part of a belt with a shiny buckle still attached - MATT
Unown Tiles* – G, K, P, T, W - LESS
Cloudy Crystal* - MATT
Various bones of indeterminate origin and species - MATT

Did I miss anything?

Also Gorman you still have two levels to allocate: pick two of your Pokémon that participated in the battle.


Pokemon: Gastly
Type: Ghost/Poison
Ability: Levitate
Gender: Male
Level: 24
Held Item: NONE
Stats--
HP: 55 [blue]+17[/COLOR]
Attack: 29 [blue]+17[/COLOR]
Def: 26
Sp. Attack: 60
Sp. Def: 29
Speed: 50 +19
Moves:
Hypnosis
Lick
Mean Look
Curse
Nightshade
Sucker Punch


And don't fret about the Cologne, once you're out of Time Flute you'll need it. :smallwink::sabine:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-07, 07:10 PM
I'd suggest restraining the Honchkrow first. We might be able to improvise some restraints from shredded sheets at the Pokemon center if no one else has anything that we can use?

Also, Less will likely suggest leaving the human skull and the various bones, but won't insist on leaving them if Matt really wants them.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-07, 07:24 PM
If anything, Flotsam could help carry one or two Murkrows, if that's what everyone's deciding they want to do - to heal them.



Less directs Leo to carry a pair of the knocked out Murkrow and then helps Akio with the Honchkrow.

Are you guys taking ALL the KO'd flock to the Center or just the Shadow Pokémon? I'm not trying to stop you either way, just want to clarify.


Also, Less will likely suggest leaving the human skull and the various bones, but won't insist on leaving them if Matt really wants them.

Gorman? Your call.

WindStruck
2023-02-08, 01:17 AM
I think we're at least taking the shadowed pokemon with us, but not healing them yet.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-08, 01:43 AM
I'm honestly not sure what happens to KO'd Pokemon left in the grass in this world. The games don't really address it. If they're in any danger Less would want to bring them, and I think he'd assume they are.

WindStruck
2023-02-08, 01:55 AM
https://66.media.tumblr.com/c195b439401c108fdc866b86b41c5544/tumblr_o2uftq5FRB1tq4of6o1_500.gif

They'll be fine! Probably.

Maybe you could try to hide them somewhere where a random wandering animal or pokemon will not easily see them?

Gnomes2169
2023-02-08, 03:54 AM
I'm honestly not sure what happens to KO'd Pokemon left in the grass in this world. The games don't really address it. If they're in any danger Less would want to bring them, and I think he'd assume they are.

They probably aren't in much risk. These are predatory birds who've been hunting in the area for a while, judging by the bones, and their nest is probably a "no-go zone" for the wild pokemon that live there. It's also raining really, really hard, so most pokemon aren't going to be voluntarily out and hunting as well. Pokemon naturally heal after resting for long enough, so these birds will probably be fine.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-08, 08:44 AM
This reminds me; if you’re unable to access a Pokémon Center (and this would apply to wild Pokémon too), assuming no major status effects like Poison or Burn and no major injuries (stat damage), unconscious Pokémon can be restored to full health by resting for three hours.

I’ll add that to the house rule post once I get off work.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-08, 09:33 AM
Gotcha. Then I don't see a reason for Less to want to bring back the non-shadowed Murkrow.

WindStruck
2023-02-08, 11:39 AM
Well, okay. One Honchrow and 2 Murkrows then. Not too bad. I guess we have a bit of time before they risk waking on their own and causing more havoc.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-08, 11:41 AM
In that case, is Leo carrying the Murkrow or is Flotsam?

WindStruck
2023-02-08, 11:50 AM
I'm not sure how shadowing works? But I think it's best if another pokemon doesn't keep continually holding a shadowed pokemon?

Don't suppose humans can be shadowed, can they?? :smallbiggrin:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-08, 12:10 PM
Leo is probably in no hurry to pick up the crow he just punched out, so Floatsom can take it. Leo can stay out to stand guard. He's a big fan of rain.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-08, 06:24 PM
Resting outside a Pokémon Center has been added to the Misc section.

EDIT: Caught up with Pinklady! Just six more hours before you're all caught up with Mark. :smallsmile:

EDIT again:
I think I have all the loot allocated to the people who wanted it, so gorman, Lord Ruby, please double-check and let me know if I left off something I shouldn't have.

(Gorman I did leave off the skull and bones, let me know if you wanted those.)

Gnomes2169
2023-02-09, 12:30 AM
Soon. Soon I'll be able to come around and nerd you all. Soon. :smalltongue:

And Gorman... maybe you could get the bones identified if you bring them back? (Depending on dental records and the like) Would still be weird to collect them though.

essCee
2023-02-09, 08:41 AM
EDIT: Caught up with Pinklady! Just six more hours before you're all caught up with Mark. :smallsmile:

Woohoo! Just to make sure before I post - the active gang is currently in the same Pokemon Center that Mark and Pinklady were eating at and showing each other their teams, right? (I'm guessing they arrived while everyone was out playing with Murkrow?)

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-09, 09:25 AM
Woohoo! Just to make sure before I post - the active gang is currently in the same Pokemon Center that Mark and Pinklady were eating at and showing each other their teams, right? (I'm guessing they arrived while everyone was out playing with Murkrow?)

You guys were at the Rieva Pokemon Center for food and Pokémon intros yes? (If not then I got that wrong and you’re in a different town. :smalleek:)

WindStruck
2023-02-09, 11:40 AM
Pretty sure us newcomers and Matt are at Rieva. :smallbiggrin:

As for everyone else, hope so too!

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-09, 02:07 PM
There's more that Less wants to do, but I figured I'd give everyone else a chance to get talking before Less gets back from warming up.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-09, 03:33 PM
Pretty sure us newcomers and Matt are at Rieva. :smallbiggrin:

As for everyone else, hope so too!

You guys are fine, it was Pinklady I wasn’t sure about. But looking back I’m not seeing anything that specifies which Pokemon Center she and Mark were in, so I think we’re good.

WindStruck
2023-02-09, 06:01 PM
Pokémon Center:

While Less is warming up, the nurse apparently decides this is a good idea regardless, and has one of the Chansey bring out a pot of herbal tea to go with the waffles and pudding for the rest of the people in the lobby. It’s very bitter and hot.

Um. Just how much waffles and bread pudding was there? I think Flotsam has already called dibs on these..

hey, she already promised her pokemon snacks hours ago! :smalleek:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-09, 06:44 PM
Um. Just how much waffles and bread pudding was there? I think Flotsam has already called dibs on these..

hey, she already promised her pokemon snacks hours ago! :smalleek:

If she and her Pokémon finish that off, then...

...everyone else will have to go to the kitchen and get their own food instead of yummy leftovers! The horror! :smallbiggrin:

EDIT:

Since you've got an NPC to explain things now, no harm in posting this reminder -


Time Flute - Trainer-useable item (not a Held Item). Has between 1 - 10 charges. Will instantly de-Shadow 1 Pokemon per charge, after which point it falls apart.

An ancient instrument, made of fragile materials. It has a beautiful, uplifting sound.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-10, 07:39 AM
I think it needs sense for me to give it at least another round of posting before Less returns.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-11, 07:53 PM
I'm here. Just lurking. Waiting.

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aRP3gQy_460s.jpg

gorman
2023-02-12, 08:49 AM
Would the Relax or Sneak scent's work on helping de-shadow the birds? I can't remember the exact types but I'm pretty sure the Sticky is for grass and the Bright is for Electric types.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-12, 11:48 AM
Would the Relax or Sneak scent's work on helping de-shadow the birds? I can't remember the exact types but I'm pretty sure the Sticky is for grass and the Bright is for Electric types.

Technically, all of them will help, but if you're asking whether or not you get the type bonus, the Sneak Scent gets a bonus for Dark and Ghost while the Relax only gives a bonus to Normal types.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-12, 11:55 AM
I'm here. Just lurking. Waiting.

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aRP3gQy_460s.jpg

Almost there! I think!

EDIT: Does our ranger friend look like this?

https://cdn.britannica.com/82/136182-050-6BB308B7/John-Wayne.jpg

WindStruck
2023-02-12, 01:27 PM
Jon Wain hahaha. :smallbiggrin:

Just need him to start calling folks Pilgrim offhandedly.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-12, 01:38 PM
EDIT: Does our ranger friend look like this?

He's a bit younger than that, but he does have the accent you'd expect. :smallbiggrin:

Gnomes2169
2023-02-13, 08:26 PM
“Yes, we’re going to want to do DNA testing and find out who it was if nothing else. How much of the body was left?”

Pick up that phone because I CALLED IT. :smallcool:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-13, 09:11 PM
Pick up that phone because I CALLED IT. :smallcool:

Previous player?

That's my best no context guess.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-14, 04:11 AM
Oh, no, just called that people would like the remains in order to identify the body. :smalltongue:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-14, 07:17 AM
Oh, no, just called that people would like the remains in order to identify the body. :smalltongue:

‘Not wanting to interfere with a potential crime scene’ is also a valid response Gnomes. :smalltongue:

Gnomes2169
2023-02-14, 11:56 AM
‘Not wanting to interfere with a potential crime scene’ is also a valid response Gnomes. :smalltongue:

Impossible. That would mean someone other than me was being reasonable, and that doesn't sound right. :smalltongue:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-14, 12:36 PM
Impossible. That would mean someone other than me was being reasonable, and that doesn't sound right. :smalltongue:

That's fair. I'm known for being exceptionally unreasonable, unless reason is involved.

essCee
2023-02-14, 08:14 PM
I just realised that, because Pinklady exercised alongside Sport's training, I misremembered her as also having a "three levels per day" limit that would prevent her from training a different Pokemon same-day. :smalltongue:

Gnomes2169
2023-02-15, 11:45 AM
... Darn it, we're interviewing pokemon and Mark isn't there to be the universal translator for pokespeech. Curse my unyielding desire for sweet, sweet free levels. :smallsigh:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-15, 11:55 AM
It's okay. Unless this Honchkrow is really good at pantomime and mimicry, the we're probably going to need to wait for a psychic type to help.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-15, 01:13 PM
It's okay. Unless this Honchkrow is really good at pantomime and mimicry, the we're probably going to need to wait for a psychic type to help.

You’re probably going to have to wait for the translator; her human speech mimicry is mostly limited to movie quotes and such.




How much should we be role playing our Pokemon too? I'm not quite sure if they're full NPCs, or partial player characters?

If they are Pokémon that obey you completely (which all your starting Pokémon are by default) you can roleplay them if you like. There will be situations where that is not the case (the big, obvious one being if they get Shadowed), but I’ll try to make those obvious. There will also be situations where I may yoink control temporarily because, for example, your Pokémon with night vision sees something you can’t and I need to convey that to you. And there will be other times you catch Pokémon that won’t obey after capture for one reason or another (EX: we had a previous player who actually stole Pokémon off a Grunt), those Pokémon will generally be under DM control.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-15, 03:09 PM
Gotcha. I'll feel free to role-play my Pokemon in my posts, though I hope that you won't feel as though you shouldn't also role play them whenever you'd like. I assume that if I did end up convincing this Honchkrow to join us, she would be the kind of Pokemon that wouldn't automatically obey? (Higher level and previous trainer?)

Anyway, I'll try to send you a list of a few personality traits for each member of the team, and a full backstory for Less at some point in the next few days, if you're interested.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-15, 03:28 PM
Gotcha. I'll feel free to role-play my Pokemon in my posts, though I hope that you won't feel as though you shouldn't also role play them whenever you'd like. I assume that if I did end up convincing this Honchkrow to join us, she would be the kind of Pokemon that wouldn't automatically obey? (Higher level and previous trainer?)

Yes, just a little. Scan her with the Pokédex and you’ll see she’s level 36 now (she leveled up when she was purified).


Anyway, I'll try to send you a list of a few personality traits for each member of the team, and a full backstory for Less at some point in the next few days, if you're interested.

Sounds good!

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-15, 07:10 PM
I think I'm going to have Less talk to the Honchkrow for a bit longer in character, but I don't want to hold anyone up OOC if I can avoid it. I imagine that no matter how this conversation goes, Less is probably going to head back to the hill with Pinklady, if we don't mind some parallel timelines?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-15, 08:04 PM
Ah, it's so nice being able to preview posts. :smallcool:


I think I'm going to have Less talk to the Honchkrow for a bit longer in character, but I don't want to hold anyone up OOC if I can avoid it. I imagine that no matter how this conversation goes, Less is probably going to head back to the hill with Pinklady, if we don't mind some parallel timelines?

Works for me. I don't promise I will get that up tonight but I will get that started.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-16, 09:19 AM
Perfect, thank you!

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-16, 05:45 PM
Gorman, WindStruck didn't want the Mining Kit so I'm adding it back to your inventory.

EDIT:




essCee, If you want to roll-play a conversation during the walk, I'm all for it. I just didn't want to split the timeline further without asking you or our DM.

KI, let me know if I shouldn't already have Buck out for this scene. He hasn't been his Pokeball yet, so I figured it would be okay, but I can retcon that if you'd like. Also, what's the weather like at the moment?

Having Buck out is fine, you guys can split the timeline for conversational purposes if you like.

Re: weather, the rain stopped just before you left. :smallsmile:

Also, note for everyone: I will be on vacation starting the end of next week, and gone for about a week and a half. I am going to try to get everyone to the group meetup (so you can at least talk to each other while I'm out), but if I can't do that naturally, don't be surprised if some time next Thursday I skip everyone over to the meetup whether you're done with your current activities or not.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-17, 09:47 PM
I hope you have a great vacation, KI!

EssCee, I'm going to hold off and let you post first, if you'd like.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-18, 07:21 AM
Also, note for everyone: I will be on vacation starting the end of next week, and gone for about a week and a half. I am going to try to get everyone to the group meetup (so you can at least talk to each other while I'm out), but if I can't do that naturally, don't be surprised if some time next Thursday I skip everyone over to the meetup whether you're done with your current activities or not.

Sounds good to me!

gorman
2023-02-18, 10:31 AM
Gorman, WindStruck didn't want the Mining Kit so I'm adding it back to your inventory.

Also, note for everyone: I will be on vacation starting the end of next week, and gone for about a week and a half. I am going to try to get everyone to the group meetup (so you can at least talk to each other while I'm out), but if I can't do that naturally, don't be surprised if some time next Thursday I skip everyone over to the meetup whether you're done with your current activities or not.

How are Taillow and Pyrofyl? Is the latter still exhausted and the former still.... featherless? :(

essCee
2023-02-18, 12:16 PM
Have a good vacay, KI!!


EssCee, I'm going to hold off and let you post first, if you'd like.

Oops, I didn't see this before I posted... good thing it was you offering to hold off rather than asking for me to wait. Thank you! I should really make sure to check this OOC thread as religiously as I check the RPG one. :smalltongue:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-18, 01:29 PM
I hope you have a great vacation, KI!


Have a good vacay, KI!!

Thanks guys! :D



Oops, I didn't see this before I posted... good thing it was you offering to hold off rather than asking for me to wait. Thank you! I should really make sure to check this OOC thread as religiously as I check the RPG one. :smalltongue:

If it helps, this forum has subscription functionality, which you can use to see if anyone has posted in the threads you're subscribed to.


How are Taillow and Pyrofyl? Is the latter still exhausted and the former still.... featherless? :(

Pyrofyl will recover from the stat damage in another two days, Taillow has another three days being ground-bound. I will make a note on Taillow for that (Pyrofyl already has one).

EDIT:

And we've been jumping around a lot, so if I missed something you need me to reply to, please speak up.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-18, 10:44 PM
That went much better than expected. I honestly was expecting that one of them was a secret officer or something. Glad it worked out. And we have a jeep!

gorman
2023-02-19, 09:22 AM
That went much better than expected. I honestly was expecting that one of them was a secret officer or something. Glad it worked out. And we have a jeep!

Last officer we encountered nearly killed us all :P

Gnomes2169
2023-02-19, 11:37 AM
Last officer we encountered nearly killed us all :P

But we still got the bugger, we did! Showed him the what-for and all that. And we only had three party member breakdowns! Two of which were relatively momentary. Absolutely worth it. :smallcool:

... But yeah, one of the officers has a Milotic that knows surf and almost party-wiped us and multiple player-controlled NPC's/ destroyed a pokemon center by itself, so maybe we shouldn't poke too many of the officers in the face. Maybe.

essCee
2023-02-19, 11:51 AM
If it helps, this forum has subscription functionality, which you can use to see if anyone has posted in the threads you're subscribed to.


I didn't know about that, good shout! Got subscriptions active now :smallbiggrin:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-19, 12:30 PM
Last officer we encountered nearly killed us all :P


But we still got the bugger, we did! Showed him the what-for and all that. And we only had three party member breakdowns! Two of which were relatively momentary. Absolutely worth it. :smallcool:

... But yeah, one of the officers has a Milotic that knows surf and almost party-wiped us and multiple player-controlled NPC's/ destroyed a pokemon center by itself, so maybe we shouldn't poke too many of the officers in the face. Maybe.

You guys are making me really glad this was just a grunt and a dude in a labcoat.

. . . right up until I remembered Less is probably going to suggest poking an officer in the face as the next objective after we deal with the immediate plot. :smalleek:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-19, 01:54 PM
Last officer we encountered nearly killed us all :P

If you mean the guy with the Naedire that Shadowed half our Pokemon, that guy was just a Taskmaster.

But the one with the Milotic was an Officer, yes.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-20, 02:25 PM
Hmm, I just had an idea/question.

What's the ratio of Pokedollars to US dollars, if there is one? Based on the prices at the restaurant it looked like one Pokedollar is about one US cent, but I'm not sure if that holds true in general.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-20, 04:18 PM
Hmm, I just had an idea/question.

What's the ratio of Pokedollars to US dollars, if there is one? Based on the prices at the restaurant it looked like one Pokedollar is about one US cent, but I'm not sure if that holds true in general.

TBH I don’t know if there is one, I’ve just been trying to keep prices in line with the handhelds (mostly) and blaming any cost irregularities for homebrew stuff on war shortages.

gorman
2023-02-20, 06:15 PM
If you mean the guy with the Naedire that Shadowed half our Pokemon, that guy was just a Taskmaster.

But the one with the Milotic was an Officer, yes.

What's the difference in power between an officer and a Taskmaster? :smallconfused:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-20, 09:32 PM
What's the difference in power between an officer and a Taskmaster? :smallconfused:

Officers are more powerful.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-20, 11:55 PM
TBH I don’t know if there is one, I’ve just been trying to keep prices in line with the handhelds (mostly) and blaming any cost irregularities for homebrew stuff on war shortages.

Fair enough. I was trying to guess based on the prices you gave the others for food and drinks, but I'm not sure that leads to a coherent system either.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-21, 08:57 AM
What's the difference in power between an officer and a Taskmaster? :smallconfused:

I'm guessing 5-10 levels higher than Taskmasters... maybe 15-20 if Kareeah feels like crushing my hopes and dreams. Which. Saying that. Their pokemon are at least level 80, and we are ALL DOOMED. :smalleek:

gorman
2023-02-21, 06:01 PM
Suddenly I don't want to play anymore... :biggrin: Though, I am curious how much easier the taskmaster we faced would have been....or the fight in general...had some buffoon remembered the hole in the ceiling for everyone to escape from....

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-21, 08:59 PM
Though, I am curious how much easier the taskmaster we faced would have been....or the fight in general...had some buffoon remembered the hole in the ceiling for everyone to escape from....

To be fair, you didn't find the hole until after the fight with the Taskmaster, so that fight wouldn't have gone any differently. The one with the hoards of Grunts after that though... :smalltongue:

Gnomes2169
2023-02-21, 09:41 PM
To be fair, you didn't find the hole until after the fight with the Taskmaster, so that fight wouldn't have gone any differently. The one with the hoards of Grunts after that though... :smalltongue:

*Visions of Vietnam PTSD with 5 gravelers self-destructing and unlimited rollouts* :smalleek:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-21, 09:44 PM
That's a lot of Gravelers.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-22, 06:34 AM
It was a lot of very angry grunts. They were, fortunately, stuck in a doorway, so they weren't able to throw out all 30 of their pokemon at the same time, buuuut it made the suicide bomber strat more effective. I think almost all of the party pokemon were bonked by that (well, the 6-7 we could have fighting effectively). My Lapras just barely got KO'd, but the party had an NPC vespiqueen that was too tanky for god themselves to kill just kinda shrugged it off.

Defense boosts are really, really good, btw.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-22, 10:13 AM
It sounds like I need to go reread your old threat, because that sounds wild. I didn't realize Vespiqueen had such good defensive stats until I looked it up on Bulbapedia. Honestly, Less probably needs to get a truly tanky Pokemon. Right now my best bet is Buck being tankier than expected.

gorman
2023-02-22, 03:11 PM
After watching so much Sword Art Online I figured that having the fastest of fast pokemon where they just can't hit you would be ideal. Like.... Rattata, quick attack out of their attacks repeatedly so that they waste their time while everyone else beats them up... I watch too much anime lol I try to use some janky idea and it just doesn't work out as I hope

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-22, 04:19 PM
Yeah, in Pokemon the second part of that is hitting them so hard that they don't get a chance to hit you back. KO'd Pokemon can't hit you back.

essCee
2023-02-23, 03:30 PM
@Lord Ruby34
Yeah, I'm good concluding it there! Very good convo! :smallbiggrin:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-23, 09:14 PM
...did you guys know there's a character limit of 50000? Because there's a character limit of 50000. :smalleek::smallannoyed:

essCee
2023-02-23, 09:24 PM
...did you guys know there's a character limit of 50000? Because there's a character limit of 50000. :smalleek::smallannoyed:

Oh gosh... I hope it didn't dump your post from trying to post too big :smalleek:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-23, 10:14 PM
Oh gosh... I hope it didn't dump your post from trying to post too big :smalleek:

No we're good; fortunately I write up most of my posts in Word first, both for cases like this and for spell check. :smallsmile:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-23, 10:28 PM
Yeah. I don't think I've seen the character limit come up other than in the homebrew forum before.

Quick question though, I assume Mina won't be very talkative while you're on vacation. Should we avoid trying to chat with Mina for the next IRL week or so?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-02-24, 06:44 AM
Quick question though, I assume Mina won't be very talkative while you're on vacation. Should we avoid trying to chat with Mina for the next IRL week or so?

Up to you, she just won’t be responding back until the middle of the week after next.

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-24, 10:03 AM
Up to you, she just won’t be responding back until the middle of the week after next.

Fair enough

gorman
2023-02-24, 06:25 PM
...did you guys know there's a character limit of 50000? Because there's a character limit of 50000. :smalleek::smallannoyed:

I'LL never write that much! LOL Not in a post anyway.

essCee
2023-02-24, 11:10 PM
Oh gosh, I didn't intentionally leave Matt off the Pinklady greeting list. (Mark and Matt both beginning with M throws me off especially since I haven't had much scene with both of them at once yet, just one of the other - so my brain ticks off "the M guy" after tackling one and forgets the other)
gorman, would you prefer if I rolled with it and had her greet him next post, or edit my post to include such a greeting and you'd probably change your post in response?

gorman
2023-02-26, 10:16 AM
It doesn't matter to me honestly. I just....don't know what to do in character and struggle... Happened yesterday when I was at my once a month LARP event... I hate how socially awkward I am. And messing up at the Shrine of Light has me spooked to say or do anything else less I get face punched by Pellana.

essCee
2023-02-26, 01:10 PM
I'm sorry to hear that. I've been there before and know firsthand it sucks aplenty to have that sort of struggle of what you can do. :smallfrown:

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-26, 02:39 PM
It doesn't matter to me honestly. I just....don't know what to do in character and struggle... Happened yesterday when I was at my once a month LARP event... I hate how socially awkward I am. And messing up at the Shrine of Light has me spooked to say or do anything else less I get face punched by Pellana.

I get it too. I don't know if it'll help you, but for me Roleplaying is a safe way for me to step outside my normal comfort zone. There are no real repercussions for being wrong, or putting your foot in your mouth. I found that very freeing.

gorman
2023-02-27, 02:38 PM
I get it too. I don't know if it'll help you, but for me Roleplaying is a safe way for me to step outside my normal comfort zone. There are no real repercussions for being wrong, or putting your foot in your mouth. I found that very freeing.

You say that NOW but you weren't responsible for the deaths of XX amount of pokemon because your doofus character never told the party about a giant hole with which to make a fighting retreat! :P Ya know who DID do that? This guy! lol #roleplayPTSD

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-27, 04:12 PM
You say that NOW but you weren't responsible for the deaths of XX amount of pokemon because your doofus character never told the party about a giant hole with which to make a fighting retreat! :P Ya know who DID do that? This guy! lol #roleplayPTSD

Man, I've really got to read through your previous RPG when I get some extra free time. This sounds wild. You probably have a better story now though than if you had noticed in time. Screw ups are part of what make RPGs fun.

Story time though. I once ended up getting my entire D&D party killed because my character thought it was a good idea to fight a procession of Mushroom people. (I don't even remember why, at this point) instead of retreating. Everyone except the Monk died, and the Monk only lived because he saw the writing on the wall and ran away. Now that was a screw up. It ended up okay though, we all made new characters that got recruited by the survivor to finish the quest and avenge our old party.

Gnomes2169
2023-02-27, 07:59 PM
You say that NOW but you weren't responsible for the deaths of XX amount of pokemon because your doofus character never told the party about a giant hole with which to make a fighting retreat! :P Ya know who DID do that? This guy! lol #roleplayPTSD

To be fair, I think only the rescued Surskit actually died, and that was in the first (unavoidable) fight.

Edit: Also, Mark thinks of Flotsam as a child... when he's 17. Almost 18 soon! As if he's so mature. Give it a few hours, and Less is going to shake his stick at all these dang kids that are in his lawn. :smallbiggrin:

Feathersnow
2023-02-28, 01:38 PM
Akio is supposed to be in his early twenties. I was kind of ambiguous on that. And he acts younger than he really is because he had a sheltered upbringing.

gorman
2023-02-28, 06:08 PM
Man, I've really got to read through your previous RPG when I get some extra free time. This sounds wild. You probably have a better story now though than if you had noticed in time. Screw ups are part of what make RPGs fun.

Story time though. I once ended up getting my entire D&D party killed because my character thought it was a good idea to fight a procession of Mushroom people. (I don't even remember why, at this point) instead of retreating. Everyone except the Monk died, and the Monk only lived because he saw the writing on the wall and ran away. Now that was a screw up. It ended up okay though, we all made new characters that got recruited by the survivor to finish the quest and avenge our old party.

Just....how OP were these mushroom people? LOL

Lord Ruby34
2023-02-28, 06:34 PM
Just....how OP were these mushroom people? LOL

Supposedly they were CR 1/8 for most of them, and CR 1 for the big ones. But the little ones didn't even attack, they just hit us with Con saves, and if we failed the saves we were stunned for a round.

Gnomes2169
2023-03-01, 07:03 AM
Speaking of birthdays and people getting older, *Birfday gnome noises.* :smallcool:

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-01, 09:34 AM
Speaking of birthdays and people getting older, *Birfday gnome noises.* :smallcool:

Happy Birthday!

gorman
2023-03-01, 06:18 PM
Speaking of birthdays and people getting older, *Birfday gnome noises.* :smallcool:

Happy birthday gnomes!

WindStruck
2023-03-01, 10:42 PM
Happy Birthday!

https://media.tenor.com/k7ltcoJ2QU4AAAAd/mad-hatter-alice-in-wonderland.gif

Feathersnow
2023-03-01, 11:02 PM
Happy Birthday!!!

Gnomes2169
2023-03-02, 06:37 AM
Thank you, guys! <3

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-08, 09:20 PM
Happy belated birthday Gnomes!

I’m back but I’m not going to get an IC post up tonight.

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-09, 12:23 AM
Welcome back, KI! I hope you had an excellent vacation!

Gnomes2169
2023-03-09, 03:40 AM
Welcome back, Kareeah! Rest well~

gorman
2023-03-09, 06:57 PM
Welcome back KI! *fidgets nervously hoping he hasn't some how angered the DM....again*

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-09, 09:44 PM
What time is it at the moment, in game?

Gnomes2169
2023-03-10, 05:02 AM
Mark arrived just before 8pm, so kinda late I'd assume.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-10, 08:37 AM
What time is it at the moment, in game?

About 9-9:30 PM.

Gnomes2169
2023-03-10, 09:19 AM
... Oh. It's bedtime. I see.

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-10, 09:56 AM
We probably need to get our poor Pokemon dinner dinner first.

Actually, how do Pokeballs and being in the box work for the Pokemon inside? Is there a virtual reality thing, or just a small cramped area?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-10, 07:42 PM
Actually, how do Pokeballs and being in the box work for the Pokemon inside? Is there a virtual reality thing, or just a small cramped area?

The Pokémon are usually held in stasis in their Pokéballs while in storage (this is why if your Pokémon get seriously injured the nurse will take them for treatment and won’t let you switch them with an uninjured ‘mon - they can’t heal), and the Pokéballs themselves are stored in Pokémon Centers and similar places. There are some edge cases - the nurse (and some other positions, like the regional Pokemon Professor*) can override the system to either take the Pokémon out or put them in, this is usually done for healthcare or research reasons - and if you’ve seen the anime, there are places like Professor Oak’s lab where the Pokémon can free range when they aren’t in the party, but those are the exception rather than the rule, and require a special license.


The regional Pokémon Professor for Helnith, Professor Hickory, vanished into the Spectral Dimension about ten or twenty years ago during one of the last batches of rifts (they occur in a regular pattern, with most of them occurring in a spike about every ten years - obviously we’re in a spike now) along with one of the only two Eevee to have been in Helnith in the last thirty years. (The other was an Egg the Siltis Elder gave to one of the group - although not the group member who has it now!) So not much chance of him yoinking one of your Pokémon to study if you somehow get your hands on a Legendary or something else ludicrously rare.


EDIT:


Akio listens but chooses not to interject, before going to bed early for the day tomorrow. Maybe he can get in some training before the others wake up....

Which Pokémon are you training?

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-11, 12:08 PM
Gotcha. So it doesn't seem like much time passes for the Pokemon themselves? I'm trying to get a better feel for how Less's Pokemon, other than Buck, would feel about being in their Pokeballs, or in box storage if Less ends up with more than six total Pokemon.

Feathersnow
2023-03-11, 03:36 PM
EDIT:



Which Pokémon are you training?

Akitsu the Trapinch, if I get a chance.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-15, 06:10 AM
This is a question for our newer players:




“What did Tattersail think?”
Well, that was a good idea. Glancing back at Tattersail, he asked his psychic type, "Well, what did you get from them?" He relayed her response to the others word-for-word.

Tattersail is actually strong enough to read unguarded minds clearly now, but since Mark hadn’t specifically asked her to do that before or during the meeting, just your characters’ emotional state during the meetup is fine. Basically, was anyone lying their butt off about wanting to stop Bandra and/or plotting murder? :smallwink:

Gnomes2169
2023-03-15, 09:38 AM
... Oh. I thought that full mind reading would be at 150 special attack. I see that I was wrong. Tattersail is the real MVP on the player team. Mark is just the boy who carries her pokeball around. :smalltongue:

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-15, 02:42 PM
Nope, no murder. Any description is probably an accurate depiction of Less's thoughts, though not necessarily word for word. Tattersail might have picked up Less's thoughts about his daughter, money, or just how young everyone looks to him.

Also, how much is the internet a thing in the Pokemon world? Do they have an equivalent to Google?

essCee
2023-03-15, 04:07 PM
Sorry about absence again lately, been through a rough patch. I'm going to read through what I missed and have a post up later today.

And better late than never - happy birthday two weeks back, Gnomes! :smallbiggrin:

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-15, 07:45 PM
Also, how much is the internet a thing in the Pokemon world? Do they have an equivalent to Google?

Yup, internet exists and gets used. Probably gets used less around the younger Pokémon training set than their real world equivalents, since it's hard to catch Pokémon while sitting at a computer and most kids would be starting their journeys around age ten, but e-mail is a thing, and search engines are a thing. IIRC we broke into a safe after a previous mission by looking up the model online, and part of Mina's research for catching a Pokémon fence involved an internet forum.

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-16, 10:16 AM
Gotcha. Not immediately relevant, but useful in the future.

I'll also remind you if needed in the future. I wasn't sure if the Pokeballs should have gone under inventory or Pokemon anyway.

gorman
2023-03-16, 05:16 PM
Yup, internet exists and gets used. Probably gets used less around the younger Pokémon training set than their real world equivalents, since it's hard to catch Pokémon while sitting at a computer and most kids would be starting their journeys around age ten, but e-mail is a thing, and search engines are a thing. IIRC we broke into a safe after a previous mission by looking up the model online, and part of Mina's research for catching a Pokémon fence involved an internet forum.

Oooo! I helped!!! :D

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-19, 04:24 PM
I thought up another question. Is there any way to change a Pokemon's ability to it's hidden ability (dream world), in the game?

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-19, 05:37 PM
I thought up another question. Is there any way to change a Pokemon's ability to it's hidden ability (dream world), in the game?

You mean the Ability Patch (https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ability_Patch)? Not as far as the group knows at this time.

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-19, 05:48 PM
You mean the Ability Patch (https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ability_Patch)? Not as far as the group knows at this time.

Neat. I didn't know that was an item. I realized I wanted to switch Hero's ability sometime in the last few weeks, so it's good to know there's theoretically something I could try to find that would accomplish that, even if it might be rare.

Gnomes2169
2023-03-22, 09:27 AM
https://media.tenor.com/OSCT96zoz_0AAAAC/umbreon-loading.gif

Pictured: Mark until he's had his 3rd coffee today.

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-22, 09:43 AM
https://media.tenor.com/OSCT96zoz_0AAAAC/umbreon-loading.gif

Also pictured, Less anytime someone expects him to be able to work his Pokedex.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-22, 06:57 PM
If I missed anyone or anything in that last post, let me know!

EDIT:


I don't mind making new friends, although...

I did want Flotsam to remain a "water specialist", if that wasn't clear by now.

And in case it is unclear to you (or anyone else), I am running a world, so the NPCs - and this includes the Pokémon - will have wants and needs of their own. Thus, you will get into fights you don’t want, you will encounter Pokémon you don’t want, you will lose Pokémon you do want. You will need to deal with these one way or another as this is an RPG and role playing how you overcome obstacles is a good chunk of the game. :smalltongue:

Speaking of, now that your little Intimidate shield is gone…enjoy the encounter you would have skipped if you’d kept her around! :sabine:

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-25, 08:31 PM
So, I was reading through parts of the old thread. I think that this game might actually be one of the longest running online ttrpg games on the internet. That's honestly pretty spectacular.

Kareeah_Indaga
2023-03-25, 10:04 PM
So, I was reading through parts of the old thread. I think that this game might actually be one of the longest running online ttrpg games on the internet. That's honestly pretty spectacular.

I like to think we’re at least in the top 5%. :smallsmile: Though as most of the PbP games that I’ve seen are dead in six months to a year I suspect the average is kind of low.

Gnomes2169
2023-03-26, 07:58 AM
So, I was reading through parts of the old thread. I think that this game might actually be one of the longest running online ttrpg games on the internet. That's honestly pretty spectacular.

Well dang. I actually haven't thought about it like that... I guess it's the longest continuous story-line too, seeing as we're still pursuing getting rid of Bandra. Kareeah is the only original player (transitioned to GM), but I'm not exactly a new kid on the block (I think I joined it in 2010). Apparently, we're nothing if not dedicated. :smalltongue:

gorman
2023-03-27, 04:58 PM
I'm not sure what to do, had a super busy weekend, might just.... chill... till everyone gets back from their field trip and wants to do the other things....

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-27, 05:13 PM
I'm not sure what to do, had a super busy weekend, might just.... chill... till everyone gets back from their field trip and wants to do the other things....

If you can't think of anything else to do you could always train your pokemon? I was reading the old thread a while back, and it looks like trainer hill is another place you could go to train your team and see if you could win some prizes?

WindStruck
2023-03-27, 06:43 PM
I like to think we’re at least in the top 5%. :smallsmile: Though as most of the PbP games that I’ve seen are dead in six months to a year I suspect the average is kind of low.

I'd say most pbp games are dead within the first two weeks.

Runner up time of death is still in recruitment phase, before it even really begins.

Lord Ruby34
2023-03-27, 07:08 PM
I'd say most pbp games are dead within the first two weeks.

Runner up time of death is still in recruitment phase, before it even really begins.

That's true. I'm already fearing that the game I started on Friday is going to fail before it can even get off the ground.