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A Barbarian
2023-01-14, 10:26 AM
I need some character art. My character is a golden dragonborn barbarian, with a tail. (I know they don't have tails, It's a deformity.) His background is Haunted one. If you need more info, please just ask! Thanks!
JNAProductions
2023-01-14, 11:40 AM
I need some character art. My character is a golden dragonborn barbarian, with a tail. (I know they don't have tails, It's a deformity.) His background is Haunted one. If you need more info, please just ask! Thanks!
There is a thread (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?448993-Request-an-OotS-style-Avatar-14-Even-More-Revenge) for requesting OotS-style avatars. You could probably ask for a quick pic there-but of course, the artists work on their own time for free, so it won't be immediate.
That being said, I've asked for some avatars from there and they're always super friendly about it!
Psyren
2023-01-14, 12:14 PM
You can also commission artists for a reasonable sum if you're willing to spend some cash. A freelance app like Fiverr could be a quick way to connect with one, or you can check a site like Etsy or Tumblr for commission offers.
nickl_2000
2023-01-14, 12:48 PM
Check out the AI art too. That AI art is pretty amazing these days
sun_flotter
2023-01-14, 01:46 PM
Check out the AI art too. That AI art is pretty amazing these days
I wouldn't recommend it. AIs struggles a lot when it comes to giving humanoid animalistic features (except for cat ears and stuff, but not my point). A dragonborn is basically ALL animalistic features, they are scaly, their heads look more dragon than human and so on.
Being able to balance the anthropomorphic aspect of it and the dragonlike features, while not impossible to do for an AI, is complicated. It's not like drawing human faces or dragons, where you can just follow a set of rules (face ratio, shape language and such) without understanding them, it's a bit harder and you're likely to get either a full dragon and not a dragonborn, or to get a freak of nature. For other races, AI might be more suitable (although I do suggest you take a look at human options first, artists are stuggling these days) but races like dragonborn, tabaxi, aaracokra and so on are likely to not be understood by AI
nickl_2000
2023-01-14, 02:33 PM
I wouldn't recommend it. AIs struggles a lot when it comes to giving humanoid animalistic features (except for cat ears and stuff, but not my point). A dragonborn is basically ALL animalistic features, they are scaly, their heads look more dragon than human and so on.
Being able to balance the anthropomorphic aspect of it and the dragonlike features, while not impossible to do for an AI, is complicated. It's not like drawing human faces or dragons, where you can just follow a set of rules (face ratio, shape language and such) without understanding them, it's a bit harder and you're likely to get either a full dragon and not a dragonborn, or to get a freak of nature. For other races, AI might be more suitable (although I do suggest you take a look at human options first, artists are stuggling these days) but races like dragonborn, tabaxi, aaracokra and so on are likely to not be understood by AI
That's fair, I was throwing it out there as a possibility. I usually use portrait works (https://www.portrait.works/), an app that I kick-started awhile back. Human would definitely give a more realistic feel and you can judge the style based on their other works.
NichG
2023-01-14, 03:02 PM
It seems to help a bit if you mix in 'lizardman' in the description, like for instance: "A beautiful, highly detailed, masterpiece character concept art half-body portrait of a gold dragon barbarian with a tail wearing leather armor, lizardman, draconic. High resolution digital art." (at least, messing around with Stable Diffusion 1.5 and the 22h variant, this seems to fairly consistently get dragon-headed barbarians with scales rather than skin)
Raven777
2023-01-14, 03:03 PM
There's probably fine tuned models for D&D/RPG character art. I know RPG-v3 (https://huggingface.co/Anashel/rpg) can at the very least do Orcs. I'll take a stab at it but I just reformatted my PC so I need to reinstall Stable Diffusion and its dependencies. I'll be back.
P.S. A Barbarian, did you try just straight up googling what you need? Searching "Dragonborn Barbarian" (https://www.google.com/search?q=dragonborn+barbarian&sxsrf=AJOqlzV981rPkubYdgKXrY4eXLA0H4--yA:1673726540482&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJ5JWf7cf8AhW8k4kEHX0mDJAQ_AUoAXoECAEQA w&biw=1920&bih=947&dpr=1) returns lots of results that seem like they'd fit your bill.
EDIT: Not too shabby, if I dare say so myself. Made with vanilla SD-1.4 with some img2img refinements.
Oil Painting, High Quality, Trending, Dragonborn barbarian, Lizardman barbarian, Argonian barbarian, Portrait, Front Facing Portrait, Above the Waist, D&D, Dungeons & Dragons, RPG, Character Art, Concept Art, Golden Scales, Dragon, Adventurer, Barbarian, Fangs
Negative prompt: Ugly, Poorly drawn hands, Blurry, Extra limbs, Missing arms, Duplicate, Deformed, Bad anatomy, Long Neck, Helmet
Steps: 50, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 435101331, Size: 512x512, Model hash: fe4efff1e1, Model: sd-v1-4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602920306226757632/1063923999404474378/00001.png
nickl_2000
2023-01-14, 05:21 PM
There's probably fine tuned models for D&D/RPG character art. I know RPG-v3 (https://huggingface.co/Anashel/rpg) can at the very least do Orcs. I'll take a stab at it but I just reformatted my PC so I need to reinstall Stable Diffusion and its dependencies. I'll be back.
P.S. A Barbarian, did you try just straight up googling what you need? Searching "Dragonborn Barbarian" (https://www.google.com/search?q=dragonborn+barbarian&sxsrf=AJOqlzV981rPkubYdgKXrY4eXLA0H4--yA:1673726540482&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJ5JWf7cf8AhW8k4kEHX0mDJAQ_AUoAXoECAEQA w&biw=1920&bih=947&dpr=1) returns lots of results that seem like they'd fit your bill.
EDIT: Not too shabby, if I dare say so myself. Made with vanilla SD-1.4 with some img2img refinements.
Oil Painting, High Quality, Trending, Dragonborn barbarian, Lizardman barbarian, Argonian barbarian, Portrait, Front Facing Portrait, Above the Waist, D&D, Dungeons & Dragons, RPG, Character Art, Concept Art, Golden Scales, Dragon, Adventurer, Barbarian, Fangs
Negative prompt: Ugly, Poorly drawn hands, Blurry, Extra limbs, Missing arms, Duplicate, Deformed, Bad anatomy, Long Neck, Helmet
Steps: 50, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 435101331, Size: 512x512, Model hash: fe4efff1e1, Model: sd-v1-4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602920306226757632/1063923999404474378/00001.png
That is impressive. Can it do Leshys (plantfolk)?
Not Art in the normal sense but maybe give Heroforge a go and make a Miniature to suit your needs. Has several VTT or related options aswell with more on the way.
Raven777
2023-01-14, 06:58 PM
That is impressive. Can it do Leshys (plantfolk)?
I'm afraid "sexy druid" is the best I could come up with. It refuses do do green skin.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602920306226757632/1063969945479807057/00003.png
Part of me wish about Princess Dress Up game style character creator...other than using them and screenshot them.
Other thing I can recommend is Hero Forge, which allow tokens despite being 3d model maker.
nickl_2000
2023-01-14, 09:34 PM
Part of me wish about Princess Dress Up game style character creator
That is similar to this app https://www.portrait.works
Jophiel
2023-01-15, 12:26 PM
Typing "Golden Dragonborn Barbarian with Tail" into Midjourney gave me this which looks pretty good to me. Could tweak the details with more effort in the prompt but I'd be happy with this if I just needed a picture of a buff gold-colored Dragon-dude.
https://i.imgur.com/dKFaBGU.png
Bohandas
2023-01-16, 01:59 AM
Here's mine from Artbreeder
https://artbreeder.b-cdn.net/imgs/47ff7d665585153edf9d60074b17.jpeg
I'm confident that with more time I could get something much better, but I'm on my phone right now and Artbreeder doesn't play well with my phone.
I can't figure out what to put in the prompt to change the human arms from my base collage into dragon arms
Disappointing to see so much AI art being promoted/used.
ChaosStar
2023-01-16, 04:33 PM
I second using Google and just searching for the race and class, then choosing the picture you like best. That's what I do for my character portraits.
AvvyR
2023-01-17, 01:56 AM
Not Art in the normal sense but maybe give Heroforge a go and make a Miniature to suit your needs. Has several VTT or related options aswell with more on the way.
I know plenty of people who use HeroForge screencaps as their character art. Obviously it's still limited, but there's a whole lot you can do with it.
Bohandas
2023-01-20, 05:44 PM
Disappointing to see so much AI art being promoted/used.
We don't have Lorenzo de'Medici or Ludovico Sforza's kind of cash
We don't have Lorenzo de'Medici or Ludovico Sforza's kind of cash
And you don't need two random names worth of cash to get good art or representation of your character. Its still not idea for the Artists but there is a lot of good art piled up on image boards and the like the with a bit of searching you can probably make work for character and if you truly cant find anything that's where Heroforgre shines
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