Spell Combo

[Pex]

Is it possible to use Illusory Script with Skywrite so that only the intended recipient can read the message in the sky?

[JNAProductions]

Is it possible to use Illusory Script with Skywrite so that only the intended recipient can read the message in the sky?

RAW, no.
You need to touch the writing surface.

Would I allow it? Probably not.

[No brains]

What if we add a little Fly spell to the recipe? Alternately, could we 'touch' the sky writing if we had a column of smoke, steam, dust or another particulate coming up from the ground to our sky-writing?

[Unoriginal]

What if we add a little Fly spell to the recipe? Alternately, could we 'touch' the sky writing if we had a column of smoke, steam, dust or another particulate coming up from the ground to our sky-writing?

Illusory Script mentions "You write on parchment, paper, or some other suitable writing material", so I would say that it doesn't work.

Note that both the hidden message and the hidding text are magical projections, with Illusory Script, as both disappear Dispel Magic is used.

If a player wanted for their PC to invent "Illusory Skywrite", it could be fun, though.

[LudicSavant]

Is it possible to use Illusory Script with Skywrite so that only the intended recipient can read the message in the sky?

I could see ruling that Skywrite effectively renders the sky a "suitable writing material" for the purposes of Illusory Script.

Gotta fly up to touch the writing surface, though.

[Unoriginal]

I could see ruling that Skywrite effectively renders the sky a "suitable writing material" for the purposes of Illusory Script.

Gotta fly up to touch the writing surface, though.

I believe wizards can fly, but I don't believe they can touch the sky.

[LudicSavant]

I believe wizards can fly, but I don't believe they can touch the sky.

Well that just makes the song no fun.

[Pex]

I could see ruling that Skywrite effectively renders the sky a "suitable writing material" for the purposes of Illusory Script.

Gotta fly up to touch the writing surface, though.

The character I have in mind to do this can fly.

I'm biased in wanting it to work, but I have difficulty see it in RAW. Others are tending to agree. Definitely in Rule of Cool. As usual I'll need to ask the DM, but he appreciates my knowledge of the rules. This stumped me.

[Hurrashane]

If a player wanted for their PC to invent "Illusory Skywrite", it could be fun, though.

Good way to make someone think they're going crazy. Writing messages in the sky to them that no one else can perceive.

"I'm not crazy, I'm telling you it was written in the sky!"

"Suuuure, buddy. Sure."

[KorvinStarmast]

I believe wizards can fly, but I don't believe they can touch the sky. Jimi Hendrix could kiss the sky, and there are those who claim that his guitar work was akin to wizardry ... :smallsmile:

[No brains]

I suppose 'sky-touching' is setting-dependent. In RL physics, anybody touching the gases that make up the atmosphere could count as 'touching the sky'. Arguments could then be made for different layers of atmosphere that have clouds in them counting as the applicable version of the sky. In a classical-greek-inspired setting, the sky is a separate thing from the air that can be flown through, but being held up by a titan doubtlessly makes it something one can touch.

Can iron heart surge be used to end touching the sky?

[Chronos]

I would rule that you can, for three reasons:

1: The Skywrite spell renders the sky "a suitable writing surface".

2: Rule of Cool

3: Skywrite and Illusory Script are both pretty close to useless, and so anything that makes both of them more useful is good.

[Hiro Quester]

I would rule that you can, for three reasons:

1: The Skywrite spell renders the sky "a suitable writing surface".

2: Rule of Cool

3: Skywrite and Illusory Script are both pretty close to useless, and so anything that makes both of them more useful is good.

I agree with all 3 points here. Especially 3. Illusory script and Skywrite are rarely useful, so making them useful in this cool way can make knowing these spells somewhat useful and cool in combination.

OF course, you do risk that a random NPC with truesight running can also see the message, which could add cool unanticipated effects, too.

[Quietus]

I would rule that you can, for three reasons:

1: The Skywrite spell renders the sky "a suitable writing surface".

2: Rule of Cool

3: Skywrite and Illusory Script are both pretty close to useless, and so anything that makes both of them more useful is good.

Was going to post pretty much exactly this. Rule of cool I would allow it.