Story of the White Wolves Adventureing Guild oCC

[Stormwolf69]

Character
Player
Race
Class
Status


Dave (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805414)
Escheton
Anthropomorphic Shadow Bat
LA2/Ardent2/UASwordsage1/SSNinja/Ardent3//Ranger5/MoMF4
Complete-ish


Lucy Conium (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2698940)
samduke
Human
Soulknife//Ranger/Scout
Complete


Dwilla Sinclair (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2804735]Tjzahrk ("Chalk")[/URL]
Taelas
Minotaur
Cloistered Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Fist of Raziel//Ex-Barbarian (Spirit Lion Totem)/RHD/LA
Complete


[URL="https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805345)
JNAProductions
Templated Human
Dragonfire Adept//LA
Complete


Razek dam-Nuhasi (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2681079)
Cygnia
Human
Dragon Shaman (copper)//Marshal
Complete


Morthol Sagescar (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805516)
Arael666
Lesser Zenithri
Cloistered Cleric// Paladin/Fighter/Pious Templar
Mostly Complete (Need Approval for race)


Thanatos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805722)
Aegis013
Azurin
Incarnate/Necrocarnate// Totemist/ Crusader
Complete


Blue (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805652)
TheAlmightyKue
Templated Hairy Spider Ooze
Bard//LA/Monk/Factotum
Mostly Complete


Rexxie (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805862)
Yas392
Unseelie Anthro Bat
Dragon Shaman//Divine Mind
Complete



Chalk (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2804735)
Taelas
Minotaur
Cloistered Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Fist of Raziel//Ex-Barbarian/RHD/LA
Mostly Complete


Kyron (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2796502)
Xav
Tiefling
Factotum//Wizard-Shadowcraft Mage
Complete

[/tr]

Gymlynn Bigward (Ice) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805438) & Chauginar (Fire) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2806426)
Canuberon
Feral Arctic Dwarf & Gold Dragon Cohort
Psychic Warrior//LA/Paladin
WiP

[/tr]

[samduke]

Lucy will speak in blue


https://forgeofmyth.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/cattie-brie_5th_edition_phb.jpg?w=395&h=646
Lucy Conium (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2698940)
Soulknife//Ranger/Scout
AC 20, Touch 16, Flat-footed 18
DR: -
HP:108
Listen +16, Spot: +16, Search +14
Psychokinetic +1d4 damage +2 Mind Blade (Su) Bastardsword (or 2 short swords +1 ea) +17/+12 (1d10, 19-20x2)
Conditions: none
Text Speech, Actions: none

[Yas392]

Checking in. Rexxie (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805862) will be speaking in Green.

I brought the table (see spoiler below) from the other thread if DM wants to copy to OP.



Character
Player
Race
Class
Status


Dave (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805414)
Escheton
Anthropomorphic Shadow Bat
LA2/Ardent2/UASwordsage1/SSNinja/Ardent3//Ranger5/MoMF4
Complete-ish


Lucy Conium (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2698940)
samduke
Human
Soulknife//Ranger/Scout
Complete


Dwilla Sinclair (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2804735]Tjzahrk ("Chalk")[/URL]
Taelas
Minotaur
Cloistered Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Fist of Raziel//Ex-Barbarian (Spirit Lion Totem)/RHD/LA
Complete


[URL="https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805345)
JNAProductions
Templated Human
Dragonfire Adept//LA
Complete


Razek dam-Nuhasi (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2681079)
Cygnia
Human
Dragon Shaman (copper)//Marshal
Complete


Morthol Sagescar (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805516)
Arael666
Lesser Zenithri
Cloistered Cleric// Paladin/Fighter/Pious Templar
Mostly Complete (Need Approval for race)


Thanatos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805722)
Aegis013
Azurin
Incarnate/Necrocarnate// Totemist/ Crusader
Complete


Blue (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805652)
TheAlmightyKue
Templated Hairy Spider Ooze
Bard//LA/Monk/Factotum
Mostly Complete


Rexxie (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805862)
Yas392
Unseelie Anthro Bat
Dragon Shaman//Divine Mind
Complete


Sharra (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805029)
BloodyMagpie
Githzerai
Cloistered Cleric/Church Inquisitor/Divine Disciple//LA/Monk/Swordsage
Mostly Complete


Chalk (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2804735)
Taelas
Minotaur
Cloistered Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Fist of Raziel//Ex-Barbarian/RHD/LA
Mostly Complete


Kyron (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2796502)
Xav
Tiefling
Factotum//Wizard-Shadowcraft Mage
Complete

[/tr]

Gymlynn Bigward (Ice) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805438) & Chauginar (Fire) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2806426)
Canuberon
Feral Arctic Dwarf & Gold Dragon Cohort
Psychic Warrior//LA/Paladin
WiP

[/tr]

[Xav]

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/KJUl5F6dKAgk.png?o=1
Kyron (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2796502)
Tiefling Factotum - Shadowcraft Mage
AC: 10 (10 T/9 FF)
DR: -
HP: 70/70
Spot/Listen/Search: +21/+16/+21
Initiative: +11
Conditions: -



"Speech" - actions, description, - "Speech"

Kyron's color will be Indigo.

[Arael666]

https://i.imgur.com/jwaWsJN.png
Morthol (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805516)
Zenithri, lesser. Cleric - Paladin/Pious Templar
AC: 19 (19 T/19 FF)
DR: 1/-
HP: 126/126
Spot/Sense Motive/K. Relig. and Planes: +14/+20/+11
Initiative: +0
Conditions: -



"Speech" - actions, description, - "Speech"

Morthol color will be Purple.

I shamelessly copied your template Xav, hope you don't mind.

[TheAlmightyKue]

Blue (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805652) will be speaking in Navy Blue

[Taelas]

Chalk will speak in bold silver.

[Cygnia]

Razek (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2681079) will speak in bolded goldenrod.

And his thoughts will be italicized.

[Canuberon]

Ice likes Icy blue?
Fire likes Firy Red?

[JNAProductions]

Dwilla, the ridiculously-templated DFA, (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805345) is made!

Born of the union of an ent, a troll, a dragon, and fey lady, Dwilla has had an unusual past. (Don't ask her parents how it happened. There was a LOT of booze and magic. And magical booze.) The fey lady, being the one to carry Dwilla to the world, she was also the one who raised her... Partially. Due to part of her parentage being of the material realm, the lady was required to give Dwilla back on her 10th birthday, and did so to a farmstead. Her new parents-Gerald and Sarah Sinclair-were not that shocked. They had many dealings with the fey, but still kept their humility about them.

Having learned power from her birth mother, her adoptive parents taught her responsibility, humility, and morals. It took Dwilla a while to get it, but seeing how she could make others smile by helping them out... It made it worth it to her.

When she turned 18, she left the farmstead, and soon joined up with the White Wolves.

Reposting Dwilla.

[Yas392]

Now to peruse the list of sheets/IC and choose someone to become Rexxie's companion for his backstory.

[Xav]

hope you don't mind.Not at all.

[BloodyMagpie]

https://i.imgur.com/dBucNEA.png
Sharra (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805029)
Githzerai Cloistered Cleric/Divine Disciple//Monk/Swordsage
AC: 26 (22 T/21 FF)
HP: 95/95
Fort/Ref/Will: +11/+13/+14
K. Arcana & The Planes/K. Religion/Listen/Spellcraft/Spot: +7/+13/+10/+14/+17
Initiative: +6
Conditions: -




Sharra will speak in brown.

[BloodyMagpie]

I trimmed a bit of fat from my character build (the Church Inquisitor dip was unnecessary in the final analysis). Also, with the multiple jobs available, is it possible (if not expected) for us to break up into multiple groups completing different jobs?

[Stormwolf69]

I trimmed a bit of fat from my character build (the Church Inquisitor dip was unnecessary in the final analysis). Also, with the multiple jobs available, is it possible (if not expected) for us to break up into multiple groups completing different jobs?

you could if you want. But, there are jobs I would not advise it. (Also the guild staff the runs the request boards will comment if they think something is up like that)

[Annoying Imp]

I trimmed a bit of fat from my character build (the Church Inquisitor dip was unnecessary in the final analysis). Also, with the multiple jobs available, is it possible (if not expected) for us to break up into multiple groups completing different jobs?

Was going to suggest the same thing. Not for the long periods, but clearing two roads separatly at the same time seems reasonable to me.

[Annoying Imp]

Joe will speak in Bold. Sometimes will think (at least I hope, he will) in Bold Italic. Kinda sorta:

Oh, comon, not again! - he thought, anticipating people refusing to listen to a "monster".
Joe draws his sap.
- Defend yourself!

[TheAlmightyKue]

Blue is built to be a buffer, they can pop off a +6 or +7 to hit and dmg with Inspire Courage (Words of Creation or WoC + Inspiration Boost) and they are a fine sized creature so they can literally sit on someones shoulder and just keep them buffed to high heaven. Might be good to pair them with the Arcane or more squishy because their aura grants a +4 deflection and +4 resistance to saves as well as blocking targetting spells of 3rd level or lower.

[Yas392]

Blue seems to have covered Morale ATK/DMG. Rexxie will be focusing on giving all Morale AC Bonus + Magic Circle + Initiative Bonus Aura then.

[Cygnia]

Razek has his own buffage to offer as well between Dragon Shaman & Marshal (and Endure Exposure).

[BloodyMagpie]

Apart from tearing foes apart in melee, Sharra has full Cleric casting up to 5th level spells to choose from, so if you have a specific spell request let me know, I am still working on filling out my prepared spells.

[Taelas]

Same, though Chalk can only cast up to 4th level spells.

[samduke]

lucy other than a combatant, is probably capable of sneaking into and scouting things out hiding quite well.

[Canuberon]

Funny, but Kyron, who usually felt like an outsider among the people, felt almost too ordinary in the White Wolves.

I giggled at that!
Thought the same about a strong dwarf :smallbiggrin:

[Escheton]

Respectfully Yoinking the formatting of Samduke, because it looks very efficient, and a bit of extra baseline makes parsing data of all our posts easier. Given the color coding of the picture I used, I shall be using speech colors around Slategrey, will find a perfect one shortly. As well as flesh out the correct numbers. And likely using this post to keep a quick reference copy paste for forms.


https://i.pinimg.com/564x/06/bd/70/06bd70a4d939dea9e6babcb31df9a220.jpg
Dave (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805414)
MasterofManyForms//Ardent/Swordsage
AC --, Touch --, Flat-footed --
Defenses: (DR: 5/magic), Fast Healing 2
HP:
Listen +10, Spot: +10, Search +2
+1 Sizing Adamantine Greatsword +X/+X-5 (2d6+1+(Str x 1.5), 19-20x2)
Bow of the Wintermoon +17/+12 (1d8+1+(Str x 1), 20x3)
Conditions: none
Talking looks like this, Actions: none




As for party role: Dave is pretty flexible. Including out of combat healing. But also not very quick to action. So if another can do it, he will let them, while contemplating turning into a vase.

@Stormwolf69: Do you want us to stop using the recruitment thread complexly and ask further character questions here?
On which note: Could one have added the "Sizing" enchantment on "Bow of the Wintermoon"? It's a flat cost addition, so no complicated calculations to determine the cost and +X value of the named item. But still, it's special, so ruling it can't be further enchanted without finding the original creator or something is very reasonable.

Also, reiterating the question regarding Psionic/Magic transparency in the world.





https://i.pinimg.com/564x/06/bd/70/06bd70a4d939dea9e6babcb31df9a220.jpg
Dave (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805414)
MasterofManyForms//Ardent/Swordsage
AC 28, Touch 22, Flat-footed 25
Current Form: Zern (Medium, 16, 17, 18)[Adrenal Surge]
Defenses: (DR: 5/magic), Fast Healing 2
HP: 108
Senses: Darkvision 90ft, Lowlight Vision x2,Listen +10, Spot: +10, Search +2
+1 Sizing Adamantine Greatsword +15/+10 (2d6+9, 19-20x2, S)
Bow of the Wintermoon +19/+14 (1d8+8, 20x3, P)
Unarmed Strike +14/+9 (1d6+7, 20x, B)
Conditions: Wildshaped, sleepy

Talk talk talk, Actions: none

[Annoying Imp]

Joe goes under Compression, so he is medium humanoid with horns, wings, and four arms. No hooves. No tail.

As for the party role, Joe is fighter type, not much more to be sayed. There is a bit of control in the build, including demoralize. But skill check isn't skyhigh.

[Escheton]

Having an explicitly evil character of which the character creation process is specifically done via PMs and not openly does prompt the need to discuss what matter of inter party conflict we are all comfortable with and what the GM is expecting and allowing, I think. Especially because we have Paladins and Saints here, who just straight up lose class features and templates if they give too much leeway to evil in their midst.

[Cygnia]

I admit, I am not a fan of PVP.

[TheAlmightyKue]

I admit, I am not a fan of PVP.

I second this, also Blue is just not built at all for PVP

[Annoying Imp]

Having an explicitly evil character of which the character creation process is specifically done via PMs and not openly does prompt the need to discuss what matter of inter party conflict we are all comfortable with and what the GM is expecting and allowing, I think. Especially because we have Paladins and Saints here, who just straight up lose class features and templates if they give too much leeway to evil in their midst.

PvP wasn't intended. I asked about alignment in my first post in recruitment thread. In the open and specifically noted possible conflict with code of conduct. As far as I can tell, DM answered: if it would be a problem, it would be a problem of my character.

Still, if players are uncomfortable with the situation, I can... I don't know... create another character? But I'll probably need DM's permission for that.

[Escheton]

PvP wasn't intended. I asked about alignment in my first post in recruitment thread. In the open and specifically noted possible conflict with code of conduct. As far as I can tell, DM answered: if it would be a problem, it would be a problem of my character.

Still, if players are uncomfortable with the situation, I can... I don't know... create another character? But I'll probably need DM's permission for that.

You asked, the GM replied with how it effected things out in the world, not between players. And then you didn't post (a character) for a week until after the IC and OOC were posted, leading at least me to think it a non-issue till reading about PM's and 4 armed evil minotaurs.
There was even a thing about deadlines and if everyone who posted a character got in.

PvP might not be intended, but this whole process, especially the secrecy regarding your character is kinda sus, and is usually done to facilitate plotting. Which in itself isn't an issue. Except that it bucks baseline expectancy and transparency. And hints strongly at the crossing of boundaries.

Which is why I am bringing up the subject of clearly establishing them. Or at least of keeping the option open of retconning/rewinding things on the fly if conflicts happen.
Not everything needs to be a group therapy session. But roleplaying safety tools exist for a reason.

[Stormwolf69]

@Stormwolf69: Do you want us to stop using the recruitment thread complexly and ask further character questions here?
On which note: Could one have added the "Sizing" enchantment on "Bow of the Wintermoon"? It's a flat cost addition, so no complicated calculations to determine the cost and +X value of the named item. But still, it's special, so ruling it can't be further enchanted without finding the original creator or something is very reasonable.

part 1 yes

part 2 as to the sizing enchantment on the bow ok I will allow it.

and now to the PVP topic I was allowing evil characters under the understanding you can be evil But not to the party. as this video will explain. do we under stand each other?


https://youtu.be/e-0hgP1tNH8

[TheAlmightyKue]

As long as Blue doesn't see him being evil and it brings up to much of him having to allow evil. Of course Stormwolf could also just drop RP restrictions on Saint and relax them on Paladin

As for Blue, I dropped Stormwolf a pm but they suggested I drop this here too.
I realized only today that Words of Creation doesn't work into my build now after all the stat play in the recruitment thread. As I want to keep Words of Creation I need to rework my templates to make the thing work.
I was gonna replace Half-Fey with Half-Illithid (dropping two class levels and Dark creature as well) to make up the Int difference. This also drops my Cha a bit.
However, I wanted to know about reducing the LA for Half-Illithid as Blue gets no use out of half the template features. Being Fine (IE smallest size in the game) they may gain tentacle attacks but they do - (Null) as far as damage goes. I lose Improved Grab as being Fine means I cannot grapple (ok maybe a diminutive creature but those are incredibly rare as to be pointless), the Extract ability (as Blue cannot grapple they cannot maintain one for a round, and Darkvision is added by one of the other templates making them only gain benefit from:
Mind Blast(1/day DC 15 Stun effect)
Psionics
3/day: Detect Thoughts, Suggestion, Levitate
1/day: Charm Monster
Spell Resistance (19) (I get Psionic Resistance 19 so this might also be a pointless ability if transparency is on)
Telepathy: 100ft
And the stat boost +4 to all mentals (Half-Fey grants +2 to Wis and +4 to Cha already)

Given that I am losing out on 4 maybe 5 of the template's abilities (8 total) should it remain +5 or be reduced to +2 (Same as Half-Fey which grants loads more spell-likes including an at-will) or +3.

[Stormwolf69]

So should I wait a while for you guys to figure out who is going to what mission?

[Escheton]

How are things when it comes to laws and legality of our profession? I take it murder and theft are illegal and punished under normal circumstance.
But one of the quests on the board involves (likely) killing and robbing kobolds. So how is that sanctioned?
And notably, what leeway do we have outside guild appointed actions?

Who puts up the posters? What are the costs and limits? Like, can a local farmer offer a reward of a good bowl of soup and some mittens for finding and killing the wolf that's eating his chickens, or is there like a 50gp fee to the guild to prevent such things?

How are rewards handled? If there is a 4000gp reward for something, that's split for all who completed it, correct? So there is motivation to leave people in the dust and finish it yourself if you think you can handle it.

[Annoying Imp]

It is obvious, character would not be bad for others' PCs. I think, the question is, if a character will be bad for someone else, and PCs notice. It may cause "we beat him and jail him" attitude : )

[Yas392]

So should I wait a while for you guys to figure out who is going to what mission?

Do our characters know where the kobolds holed up?

[Arael666]

Do our characters know where the kobolds holed up?

Yeah, that will play a big role in our choosing. I like the idea of the entire group saving the people as this looks like a more urgent matter, then splitting up in two groups and patroling the roads.

Also, Morthol is a self buffer melee/frontliner. While he can buff the party, he will need to reserve a fews spells to be able to play his role (like divine power), but persisting mass lesser vigor is definetly up in his list of group buffs.

[BloodyMagpie]

May I ask how you would Persist a Mass spell? I thought that metamagic feat only could be used on spells with Target: You (like Divine Power).

[Cygnia]

Mind you, I would like to know if we can talk to the Guild master about what the mages want before galavanting to kobolds et al.

[Annoying Imp]

Mind you, I would like to know if we can talk to the Guild master about what the mages want before galavanting to kobolds et al.

+
It is a matter of, maybe, half of an hour. I doubt such a pause makes any difference.

[samduke]

May I ask how you would Persist a Mass spell? I thought that metamagic feat only could be used on spells with Target: You (like Divine Power).


Persistent Spell
A persistent spell has a duration of 24 hours. The persistent spell must have a personal range or a fixed range , There are ways to cause touch spells to be persistable as well

Vigor, Mass Lesser
Range: 20 ft. = fixed
Duration: 10 rounds + 1 round/level = 24 hours Persisted

[Annoying Imp]

May I ask how you would Persist a Mass spell? I thought that metamagic feat only could be used on spells with Target: You (like Divine Power).

Feat says "personal range or fixed range". Mass Lesser Vigor has a range of 20'. While I agree, it seems by the feat's wording, it should persist self buffs only, authors failed to actually say that.

[Annoying Imp]

Also, I now have enough messages to post my Character's Sheet (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2806498)

[JNAProductions]

DM, can you move us forward? I like the interactions, but action is good too. :P

[Yas392]

DM, can you move us forward? I like the interactions, but action is good too. :P

I think our characters are waiting for someone to decide what mission they are taking. I am going to post for Rexxie to move us forward after @Stormwolf69 answers the question.

[JNAProductions]

I think our characters are waiting for someone to decide what mission they are taking. I am going to post for Rexxie to move us forward after @Stormwolf69 answers the question.

I thought we had decided on the rescue, but fair.

[Arael666]

I thought we had decided on the rescue, but fair.

We mostly did, but the consideration of at least listening to the special request coditions is valid, since it wont take us too much time.

So we could get this info and then go hunt some kobolds. Thus the DM can answer our previous question (do we know/have information on where the kobolds are located) and feed us the info on the special request in a single post.

Also, Samduke and Imp were spot on concerning the persistant spell question. Other exaples of similar spells are elation and righteous wrath of the faithfull, they both have fixed range but affect multiple targets. For now I'l probably persist Elation, Channeled Divine Shield, Mass Lesser Vigor, Detect Toughts and Divine Power.

[Cygnia]

Besides, once we figure out which mission I can coordinate with my fellow Dragon Shaman which auras to roll with.:smallcool:

[Annoying Imp]

DM, can you move us forward? I like the interactions, but action is good too. :P

Minimal interaction is still needed to describe, how all mercs have gathered on a single mission. I have no intent to insist on something other than kobolds, but at least a mention of "no one have responded to Joe" would be great, no?

I agree on a single blurb of info on mages' quest, no problem.

[samduke]

Minimal interaction is still needed to describe, how all mercs have gathered on a single mission. I have no intent to insist on something other than kobolds, but at least a mention of "no one have responded to Joe" would be great, no?

I agree on a single blurb of info on mages' quest, no problem.

Lucy interacted with Joe in responding to his question, with information , knowing there was a lack of information was also made relevant.

and like all PBP folks post when they can, this would include the gm, I am sure they will update us on the mages and the kobolds with what is known

[TheAlmightyKue]

I thought the Kobold seems like a fair mission to take. But there are numerous of us, we could in theory break into two squads but they may be uneven and improperly staffed.


On a side note, any comments or suggestions about my previous OOC post regarding the templates. The DM asked me to post it here to get some insight.

[Stormwolf69]

working on the next update as one of the guild girls /guild advisers. Will give you most of the information.

[Arael666]

On a side note, any comments or suggestions about my previous OOC post regarding the templates. The DM asked me to post it here to get some insight.

I would consider spellwarped instead of half illithid. Less LA, same ammount of int and still get spell resistance. You'd only be losing telepathy really, since all the rest is either redundant or doesnt really add much to your build

[BloodyMagpie]

Feat says "personal range or fixed range". Mass Lesser Vigor has a range of 20'. While I agree, it seems by the feat's wording, it should persist self buffs only, authors failed to actually say that.

Huh, okay. As if Persist wasn't powerful enough as is with DMM.


Also, Samduke and Imp were spot on concerning the persistant spell question. Other exaples of similar spells are elation and righteous wrath of the faithfull, they both have fixed range but affect multiple targets. For now I'l probably persist Elation, Channeled Divine Shield, Mass Lesser Vigor, Detect Toughts and Divine Power.

...not all at the same time, right?

[JNAProductions]

Huh, okay. As if Persist wasn't powerful enough as is with DMM.

...not all at the same time, right?

Persistomancy is powerful.

Imma just breathe fire/ice/slow on people. :P

[TheAlmightyKue]

I would consider spellwarped instead of half illithid. Less LA, same ammount of int and still get spell resistance. You'd only be losing telepathy really, since all the rest is either redundant or doesnt really add much to your build

Hmm yeah its a +3, it just doesn't work on Ooze, and if I apply it to the Hairy spider, i would lose the Int bonus anyway.

[Escheton]

OK, so we have some names of roads. But like, how many miles from here are they, how far apart, etc? To account for things like travel time.
Can we perhaps get a temporary stick figure map?

And on the persist topic: always thought nightsticks should have been labeled consumables. Strong one off incidentals. Not a cheap way to buff yourself into epic power level. Though, to be fair, they weren't designed with DMM in mind.

For adding Int to an Ooze, the short-list is:

Half-dragon
Half-fiend (needs 4 int to get unfortunately, and "always evil", so no Saint)
Half-Illithid

Minimum 3:

Celestial / Fiendish / Anarchic / Axiomatic (SRD)

At the end of the stacking you are an outsider because of Saint, which might open up options?

Actually, Half-Fey has loose entry requirements and turns you into a Fey. Spellwarped can be applied to Fey. It's +3, so you would need to drop the Dark template to make it work.
But:
"Hairy Spider [Vermin]> Skitterhaunt Spider [Ooze]> Sentry Ooze [Ooze]> Half-Fey (+2) [Fey]> Spellwarped (+3) [Aberration]> Phrenic(+2) [Aberration, Psionic] > Saint (+2)[Outsider, Native, Psionic]" works.
I don't know how important any class levels on your LA side were and if it's worth it. But mechanically it's viable and nets you a base Int of 8. Not great normally, but glorious for an Ooze

[Arael666]

Huh, okay. As if Persist wasn't powerful enough as is with DMM.



...not all at the same time, right?

Well, I was thinking of persisting all of them, really.

Mass Lesser vigor can only affect 3 people for now, so my plan was to apply it to the melee characters of the group (myself included), so we don't spend too much resources on healing. Elation is a group buff that can affect everyone and gives +2 morales bonus to str and dex. Chanelled divine shield and divine power is so I can actually hit anything while at melee and not die if I end up being attacked by multiple monsters. Finally, detect toughts is so I can help scouting (I spent a lot of skill points on spot, a cross class skill, for that purpose as well).

Edit: also, I cant persist all of those spells in a single day, I need at least two days for that to work, through persistant spell + rod extend, lesser

That being said, I can tone it down if that is an issue.

[Escheton]

Well, I was thinking of persisting all of them, really.

Mass Lesser vigor can only affect 3 people for now, so my plan was to apply it to the melee characters of the group (myself included), so we don't spend too much resources on healing. Elation is a group buff that can affect everyone and gives +2 morales bonus to str and dex. Chanelled divine shield and divine power is so I can actually hit anything while at melee and not die if I end up being attacked by multiple monsters. Finally, detect toughts is so I can help scouting (I spent a lot of skill points on spot, a cross class skill, for that purpose as well).

That being said, I can tone it down if that is an issue.

Out of combat healing is a non-issue, no worries. Fast healing 1 only having that function really.
Besides, looks like half the group already has fast healing. Between Saint, Shadow Creature, Feral etc.

Dave has A Shadow Sun ninja strikes a careful balance between light and dark, good and evil. Although your heart is dedicated to good, you know that the shadow of evil will always be a part of you. This realization, along with careful control of your ki energy, allows you to wield the energy of both the dark and light aspects of your being. This understanding and mastery allows you to deal damage with one attack, then turn and heal an ally with the reverse of that harmful energy. With a melee touch attack made as a standard action, you can deal negative energy damage equal to your base unarmed damage + your Wis modifier. Note that undead are healed by this attack, since it uses negative energy. In the round after you use this ability, you can touch a creature as a standard action and heal an amount of damage equal to the damage you dealt with your negative energy touch on the previous round. If the target of this healing touch makes no effort to prevent you from touching him, you can touch the creature as a swift action. You cannot use both aspects of this ability on the same round, nor can you use the negative energy touch again in a round after you have already successfully used it. After you channel negative energy into a creature, you convert that energy into a positive energy charge that prevents you from using the negative energy aspect of this ability until the positive energy has been discharged. which combined with innate fast healing means unlimited, though uncomfortable out of combat healing.

[Annoying Imp]

OK, so we have some names of roads. But like, how many miles from here are they, how far apart, etc? To account for things like travel time.
Can we perhaps get a temporary stick figure map?

I'd add, maybe, one of those dangerous roads leads somewhere near the "kobolds'" town? Or the town is along the way?..

[Stormwolf69]

let's see I will hopefully have a map of the province/duchy done up by Sat.

[TheAlmightyKue]

I could to Spellwarped and drop Dark, Factotum and Monk I just lose all those class skills, extra Wis to AC, and the ability to hide in darkness to avoid being seen.
Was thinking given Blue is Fine sized and can hide in plain sight they could travel through goblin or kobold tunnels and scope it out without being seen and then returning to relay info.

Its doable I just lose a little bit of fun stuff to match for that feat.

[Stormwolf69]

For those that are wondering about the Aura of Swiftness, you will make it to that city by nightfall. using the main highway of king's Road. An extra wide as in 8 wagon laine road with the woods in an area cleared 100 yards from the center of the road.

[Annoying Imp]

Than, we probably should just head to the city.

[Yas392]

Draconic Aura: Aura of Swiftness only boosts climb/fly/swim speed than overall speed which is nice on those characters who have those movement modes.

[Annoying Imp]

I can carry someone (even have a feat for that : ) ), if it matters for an overall traveling pace. Fly 100'.

[Yas392]

A post to move the plot forward as well as informing Razek of Rexxie's active draconic aura.


I can carry someone (even have a feat for that : ) ), if it matters for an overall traveling pace. Fly 100'.

What is that feat?

[Annoying Imp]

What is that feat?

It is a joke, really, but it refers Scorpion's Grasp: "... While maintaining this latter type of hold, you can move normally (possibly carrying your opponent away), provided you can drag the opponent's weight."

[Escheton]

Dave can just Shadowwalk the group there. But currently none of the discourse makes him think bringing anyone else won't just lead to alarms going off and hostages getting killed.

[Yas392]

It is a joke, really, but it refers Scorpion's Grasp: "... While maintaining this latter type of hold, you can move normally (possibly carrying your opponent away), provided you can drag the opponent's weight."

Lol, that feat takes the cake.

[Cygnia]

Yeah, I don't have the Swiftness draconic aura, but I do have Motivate Urgency on the Marshal side -- and I'm not seeing anything that they wouldn't stack. Marshal auras are circumstance bonuses that don't stack with each other (bolding mine MH 13).

But the only thing I'm seeing about draconic auras is that same (draconic) ones would overlap. Even Dragon Magic (pg86) which talks about marshals picking up draconic auras instead of their usual ones doesn't say anything about how the two (draconic vs marshal) would interact.

So it wouldn't make sense for both Rexxie and Razek to run with the Senses aura -- but Rexxie could run Senses while Razek runs either Motivate Wisdom or Dexterity.

[TheAlmightyKue]

Almost anyone can carry Blue, they weight 1 lb and are very small. Blue can literally sit on your shoulder and you wouldn't likely notice.
To use Words of Creation Blue takes several dice of non-lethal damage (they have fast healing so this is just a temporary issue) but they have Inspire Greatness as well so they can make their big beefy front liner or squishy backliner more tanky with 4d10 Hit Dice (since we use max HD thats +40 temporary Hit Points) and a Comp +4 to atk. So Blue can do more than just inspire courage, but greatness is 1 person at a time.

I can fascinate 4 creatures at a time and to use suggestion they need to save vs DC 31 which I think is fairly strong.

[samduke]

so do we want Lucy and her Cat "Dire Phynxkin" to go scout ahead ?

[Xav]

Or Kyron - he's a competent scout as well.

[Arael666]

I can carry someone (even have a feat for that : ) ), if it matters for an overall traveling pace. Fly 100'.

Morthol Would not oopose to being carried, and he wouldn't want to slow down the party either since his movement speed is pretty normal (30ft)


A post to move the plot forward as well as informing Razek of Rexxie's active draconic aura.

I can add another 5ft with elation, also I'll start the buffing since I need time to have more spell active

[Yas392]

Yeah, I don't have the Swiftness draconic aura, but I do have Motivate Urgency on the Marshal side -- and I'm not seeing anything that they wouldn't stack. Marshal auras are circumstance bonuses that don't stack with each other (bolding mine MH 13).

But the only thing I'm seeing about draconic auras is that same (draconic) ones would overlap. Even Dragon Magic (pg86) which talks about marshals picking up draconic auras instead of their usual ones doesn't say anything about how the two (draconic vs marshal) would interact.

So it wouldn't make sense for both Rexxie and Razek to run with the Senses aura -- but Rexxie could run Senses while Razek runs either Motivate Wisdom or Dexterity.

Same type as in draconic aura in general since they are dragon shaman on one side of their track to provide context.

EDIT: Edited that bit for clarity.

[TheAlmightyKue]

So the breath weapons involved, are these both acid breaths? Blue has a 1/min acid spray ability that does. So if you are granting the party resistance to acid thats a very useful thing if we all use acid as our primary elemental attack type. (Blue is immune to elements other than fire)

[JNAProductions]

Oh, I need to Endure Exposure everyone.

It'll protect you from the elements, and more importantly make you immune to my breath weapon.

[Yas392]

Nvm. Missed that my question is already answered.

[Cygnia]

So the breath weapons involved, are these both acid breaths? Blue has a 1/min acid spray ability that does. So if you are granting the party resistance to acid thats a very useful thing if we all use acid as our primary elemental attack type. (Blue is immune to elements other than fire)

It'll make you immune to that PC's specific breath weapon (acid in Razek's case), but not to acid as a whole.

[TheAlmightyKue]

It'll make you immune to that PC's specific breath weapon (acid in Razek's case), but not to acid as a whole.

Oh I know, but Blue is immune to acid, the only element that Blue is not immune to is fire.

[Stormwolf69]

ok I forgot about this weekend being the long weekend (in both US and Can) Do you guys think the pace is ok or do you want me to pick it up for now? Also due to the request of one of the players I will be adding more Aberration into the game. If there are any concerns or problems please PM me.

[Cygnia]

My concern is we may have TOO many PCs in one scene. Could be overwhelming and bog down combat (when it inevitably hits).

[BloodyMagpie]

One less now, I think I'm going to drop out. I never played a game with this many players and realized I'm just feeling totally lost and not to my liking. Sorry, have a good game.

[Annoying Imp]

One less now, I think I'm going to drop out. I never played a game with this many players and realized I'm just feeling totally lost and not to my liking. Sorry, have a good game.

It is you, who makes a decision in any case. I just feel, I should ask, what if we split in two groups? Will it be comfortable for you?
I'm not saying, DM CAN handle two groups - It is a thing only he can answer. But you may inform him, if you're interested.

[Yas392]

Decided on Dwilla being his companion.

[TheAlmightyKue]

Blue will go with Dwilla and Rexxie just because they seem to be the most forward of the group. Blue has really high diplomacy if we need it (+35)

[Stormwolf69]

Yes, I can In fact I was do to the numbers looking for a way to see how I could split the party.

[Arael666]

I would also like if we could split. I haven't played many games in this format and the sheer ammount of character is making it harder to keep track of everything

[Stormwolf69]

Annoying Imp Can i get you to make a roll for the results of your sent test?

[Annoying Imp]

Annoying Imp Can i get you to make a roll for the results of your sent test?

Sure, you can. What should I roll?

[Stormwolf69]

given that sent lets just say survival as it also has to do with tracking.

[Annoying Imp]

[roll0]

My first roll here, so I may mess with something)

It may be higher, if "tracking" bonus applies
It seems, the bonus actually appears to be a property of creatures, and not Scent itself. So I have no bonus.

[samduke]

I dont mind splitting, I just need to know what bunch I am with

[Xav]

Yep, same for me.

[JNAProductions]

Agreed with that.

[Taelas]

Yeah, me too.

[Cygnia]

Looks like we have 3 locales...who wants to go where?

[Yas392]

Rexxie is with Dwilla and will be in whichever group she is in.

[TheAlmightyKue]

Blue will likely stick with the group he was with currently which I believe was Rexxie and Dwilla unless someone thinks he would be best off with some other group

[Stormwolf69]

[roll0]

My first roll here, so I may mess with something)

It may be higher, if "tracking" bonus applies
It seems, the bonus actually appears to be a property of creatures, and not Scent itself. So I have no bonus.

ok, you find the following scents on the weapons. some kind of Poison. (you can either find a herbalist or use knowledge nature check to find out what type) Humans and some Gnome, Dwarf, and Kobold. there is something else a faint hint of Dragon. (Unknown type)

[Yas392]

Any more info through identify (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/identify.htm)? The spell entry states that it identifies all magical properties including the means of activation.

[Stormwolf69]

sorry for the delay work.


ok, they are exploding runes there are two types that explode when anything over 60 lbs stands on them. (something a small creature can use as a landmine and feel safe he will not trigger themselves) and the other is the classic look at the runes to activate.

[Cygnia]

GM, just how many PCs do we have? Maybe that'll help us break down how to split up and who should go where?

[Yas392]

Updated post from the new information.

[Stormwolf69]

GM, just how many PCs do we have? Maybe that'll help us break down how to split up and who should go where?

you have 11 players as to who is going were that is for you guys to sort out.

[Xav]

Well, we can divide in two groups and fulfil different missions then.

Anybody willing to deal with the Archmage's problem, or with one of the Monsters?

[samduke]

you have 11 players as to who is going were that is for you guys to sort out.

well I think this puts at least 1 scout on each team, and there is not much reasoning for who is where, other than splitting similar classes into the two teams, if you do not like it then re-arrange

Team 1


Character
Player
Race
Class
Status


Lucy Conium (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2698940)
samduke
Human
Soulknife//Ranger/Scout
Complete


Morthol Sagescar (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805516)
Arael666
Lesser Zenithri
Cloistered Cleric// Paladin/Fighter/Pious Templar
Mostly Complete (Need Approval for race)


Razek dam-Nuhasi (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2681079)
Cygnia
Human
Dragon Shaman (copper)//Marshal
Complete


Kyron (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2796502)
Xav
Tiefling
Factotum//Wizard-Shadowcraft Mage
Complete


Thanatos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805722)
Aegis013
Azurin
Incarnate/Necrocarnate// Totemist/ Crusader
Complete





Team 2


Character
Player
Race
Class
Status


Dave (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805414)
Escheton
Anthropomorphic Shadow Bat
LA2/Ardent2/UASwordsage1/SSNinja/Ardent3//Ranger5/MoMF4
Complete-ish



Rexxie (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805862)
Yas392
Unseelie Anthro Bat
Dragon Shaman//Divine Mind
Complete



Gymlynn Bigward (Ice) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805438) & Chauginar (Fire) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2806426)
Canuberon
Feral Arctic Dwarf & Gold Dragon Cohort
Psychic Warrior//LA/Paladin
WiP



Blue (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805652)
TheAlmightyKue
Templated Hairy Spider Ooze
Bard//LA/Monk/Factotum
Mostly Complete



Dwilla Sinclair (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805345)
JNAProductions
Templated Human
Dragonfire Adept//LA
Complete



Tjzahrk ("Chalk") ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2804735)
Taelas
Minotaur
Cloistered Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Fist of Raziel//Ex-Barbarian (Spirit Lion Totem)/RHD/LA
Complete

[Cygnia]

Arael666, does Morthol have Speak With the Dead prepped? Might be worth a shot in interrogating the deceased...

[Annoying Imp]

I think we should try one mission from two ends first, than split.

As for teams, I suggest splitting me and paladins/exalted characters. Also, I think, it would be great to have aura-style buffer in each team (DMM persisted mass buffs probably, fall into this category).

Also, I'm still missing from the table/both teams, so, please, add me:
Joe (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2806498) | annoying imp | human (half-minotaur) | LA/mnk2/psy_war3/hulk3//ftr9

[Yas392]

Yeah. We have 11 people on board but only almost half is active at the moment.

[TheAlmightyKue]

Yeah. We have 11 people on board but only almost half is active at the moment.

I do think some people are waiting their turn or waiting to see what others do. I check in virtually every day to be sure what's going on.

[samduke]

As for teams, I suggest splitting me and paladins/exalted characters. Also, I think, it would be great to have aura-style buffer in each team (DMM persisted mass buffs probably, fall into this category).


if you do not like it, then re-arrange

I added you to this

Team 1


Character
Player
Race
Class
Status


Lucy Conium (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2698940)
samduke
Human
Soulknife//Ranger/Scout
Complete


Morthol Sagescar (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805516)
Arael666
Lesser Zenithri
Cloistered Cleric// Paladin/Fighter/Pious Templar
Mostly Complete (Need Approval for race)


Razek dam-Nuhasi (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2681079)
Cygnia
Human
Dragon Shaman (copper)//Marshal
Complete


Kyron (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2796502)
Xav
Tiefling
Factotum//Wizard-Shadowcraft Mage
Complete


Thanatos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805722)
Aegis013
Azurin
Incarnate/Necrocarnate// Totemist/ Crusader
Complete


Joe (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2806498)
annoying imp
human (half-minotaur)
LA/mnk2/psy_war3/hulk3//ftr9
Complete





Team 2


Character
Player
Race
Class
Status


Dave (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805414)
Escheton
Anthropomorphic Shadow Bat
LA2/Ardent2/UASwordsage1/SSNinja/Ardent3//Ranger5/MoMF4
Complete-ish



Rexxie (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805862)
Yas392
Unseelie Anthro Bat
Dragon Shaman//Divine Mind
Complete



Gymlynn Bigward (Ice) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805438) & Chauginar (Fire) (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2806426)
Canuberon
Feral Arctic Dwarf & Gold Dragon Cohort
Psychic Warrior//LA/Paladin
WiP



Blue (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805652)
TheAlmightyKue
Templated Hairy Spider Ooze
Bard//LA/Monk/Factotum
Mostly Complete



Dwilla Sinclair (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2805345)
JNAProductions
Templated Human
Dragonfire Adept//LA
Complete



Tjzahrk ("Chalk") ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2804735)
Taelas
Minotaur
Cloistered Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Fist of Raziel//Ex-Barbarian (Spirit Lion Totem)/RHD/LA
Complete

[Stormwolf69]

Samdrake what are you searching for and I need you to roll


Also don't worry I plan on rescaling the planned encounter based on the size of the party anyway.

[Canuberon]

I do think some people are waiting their turn or waiting to see what others do. I check in virtually every day to be sure what's going on.

Same, my char isn't very good at spot and search checks.
So I don't want to interject.

But still alive and following ;-)

[samduke]

Samdrake what are you searching for and I need you to roll


Also don't worry I plan on rescaling the planned encounter based on the size of the party anyway.

I was going to hold off until there was some sort of decision on who in what team splitting ect.. and as for the searching for..



Rexxie hangs his head for a while then looks up.

"Explosive runes that explodes upon people gazing on them and a medium size creature stepping on them, huh? Spooky. Okay, I finish gathering what I can from the box. Anyone wants to look at the stuff a little more or we moving on?"

Listen [roll0]
Search [roll1]
Spot [roll2]

[Stormwolf69]

ok guys who is going were ?

[Xav]

I guess for now we're all at the crime place. Personally I'm waiting for results of Knowledge check about the Four Sisters, and then will presumably decide, what to do.

Kyron turns to memory, recalling everything that he could know about the Four Sisters and the events associated with them.
(1d20+18)[38] - Knowledge: History and Cunning Knowledge (+8) on the subject (Four Sisters)

[Annoying Imp]

I guess for now we're all at the crime place...

I think, we are at guards barracs, or something similar. Crime scene is one of those places we are expected to visit.

[Xav]

I think, we are at guards barracs, or something similar. Crime scene is one of those places we are expected to visit.Yes, seems so, thanks for clarification.

[Escheton]

got knocked out of function by covid and a tooth infection, concurrently. Catching up now.

[Cygnia]

I think our options are: crime scene, morgue where the bodies are or the bar the deceased hung out at...

[Stormwolf69]

that is the three main ones you also have a higher-ranked guild member who is ordered to stay in town. As the captain has ordered him and his group not to leave town.

[Yas392]

If there are no objections, Rexxie is keen going to the temple to check the bodies.

[Annoying Imp]

Joe is going to visit gold-ranked guildmember

[Xav]

Kyron will visit the guildmember.

[Cygnia]

Razek wants to check the crime scene

[Stormwolf69]

As to the history roll you know that there is a rumor that they were once students of the mages guild. thought you are not sure who their master was. Also, they are Daughters of a much more powerful ancient dragon. who the duke himself makes visits to. But overall, they are known to be manipulators, not ones to get their hands directly dirty like this. they are more likely to hire a professional and be done with it.

also update later to day.

[Annoying Imp]

I suggest placing avatars in IC posts. Some players already do it, and, no surprise, I remember what they have generally done, but for others it is kind of harder to track.

[Cygnia]

GM, how big is the entrance to this sewer system?

[Stormwolf69]

15 across and 25 feet down.

[Taelas]

I'm going to have to pull out of this, sorry. Just too many players for me to keep up.

[samduke]

I'm going to have to pull out of this, sorry. Just too many players for me to keep up.

Agreed.. I am out

this should have been split a long time ago

[Canuberon]

Ouch, to bad to hear.

Could we get an up to date table? Who's still here and who isn't?

[Stormwolf69]

Or could I get a roll call for how is still here and were.

[Cygnia]

Razek is here, at the crime scene -- for now. :smallconfused:

[TheAlmightyKue]

Blue is still here.

[JNAProductions]

I'm at Temple.

[Yas392]

Present at the Temple.

[Annoying Imp]

Joe visits tavern

[Yas392]

I think we are waiting for GM for the responses.

[Stormwolf69]

update later tonight sorry every one work has been Hellish with 2 people sick and one on vacation.

[Cygnia]

But is anyone else sticking around that didn't say where they were yet?

[Xav]

Kyron will visit the guildmember.My plans are the same.

[Yas392]

OK. Think I will have to make another sheet since Baldr replaced OG MW.

[Annoying Imp]

... since Baldr replaced OG MW.

:o
Maybe, it was intended for DM, but otherwise totally didn't get it.

[Yas392]

:o
Maybe, it was intended for DM, but otherwise totally didn't get it.

My sheet for Rexxie is on original mythweavers. Since Baldr wiped out the previous mythweavers site when it replaced it, my sheet is as well.

[Cygnia]

They transferred all the sheets over to Baldr as well though...

MW url redirect seems to be working now, so you don't need to update your sheet links

[Yas392]

Yeah. Found out from the announcement and testing the link earlier. That certainly save the headache from creating another sheet since I put down a lot of stuff.

[Stormwolf69]

well, sorry for the delay with work being as it is with us being 4 guys leaving and everything being so chaotic at work. I think we might have to end this campaign. Sorry.

[Yas392]

It sucks that the game has to end but IRL comes first. Thanks for the head's up and the game.

[Cygnia]

Be safe everyone.