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incog64
2023-09-07, 12:19 PM
Can Specialist Conjurer with Necromancy banned use the spell below as it belongs to two school?


Kelgore's Grave Mist
(Player's Handbook II)

Conjuration/Necromancy [Cold]
Level: Sorcerer 2, Wizard 2,
Components: V, S, M,
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Area: 20-ft. radius spread, 20 ft. high
Duration: 1 round/level
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: See text

With a gesture, you create a cloud of clammy, thin mist.
The light in the area seems to dim as the mist appears, and a slight wind washes over the area, sending a chill down your spine.
This spell creates a thin mist within the spell's area.
The mist is too thin to have any effect on vision, but the necromantic energy infused within it hampers the living.
All living creatures within the mist become fatigued and take 1d6 points of cold damage per round.
If the spell fails to overcome a creature's spell resistance, the subject takes the cold damage but ignores the fatigue.
Material Component: A handful of dirt taken from a graveyard or tomb.

Inevitability
2023-09-07, 12:35 PM
It is a necromancy spell, so no, you cannot use the spell.

The fact that you're specialized in conjuration is irrelevant, because specialization doesn't affect what spells you are able to cast: whereas banning necromancy directly prevents you from casting certain spells.

Bullet06320
2023-09-07, 07:11 PM
u can still UMD a scroll of it

limited wish or wish should do it too

spell reprieve feat from Lost Empires of Faerun, lets you get a single spell from a banned school, part of a 3 feat chain that lets you get a whole banned school, item reprive then arcane transfiguration

https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?169240-3-5-Ways-for-Wizards-to-cast-from-banned-schools

Chronos
2023-09-07, 07:18 PM
From PHB2, page 95:

Effects that prevent a spellcaster from accessing one school of a dual-school spell prevent all access to that spell.

Bohandas
2023-09-08, 05:21 PM
Not being able to use it is as written but is it as intended? It has the look of an oversight.

torrasque666
2023-09-08, 07:10 PM
Not being able to use it is as written but is it as intended? It has the look of an oversight.
Its pretty explicit about it. I wouldn't call


Effects that prevent a spellcaster from accessing one school of a dual-school spell prevent all access to that spell.

an oversight.