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Clause
2023-10-29, 05:07 PM
Hello giants.
I wonder if have a good build mixing an archivist, shadow adept adn wyld mage levels.
Can anyone help to optmise this?? And can tell me if is a good or possible thing go to a chaos shadow magic??

Early entry is too welcome !

Only 3.5 material.

The archivist is only a sugestion but any caster serves.

Thanks anyone that reads this

Inevitability
2023-10-29, 05:15 PM
Wild Mage is arcane only, isn't it? You'd need to be a human from the Mulan region with Southern Magician or take Alternate Source Spell from Dragon Magazine (and hope your DM is okay with the arguments that those make you count as an 'arcane spellcasting class'). That, or switch to an arcane base class.


More importantly: you're a full caster (one of the best) heading into a full caster PrC and another full caster PrC. What does 'optimized' even mean in this context? Look at your base class's handbook and you will be able to whip a solid tier 1 build together, what are you looking for beyond that?

Clause
2023-10-29, 05:41 PM
I want the power above all the power in existence.

But, about the base class, it can be any other. The idea of an archivist is the possibility to have all the spells in the game. But optmization in this post, is a true powerfull combo. Including early entry for more prc levels.

Beni-Kujaku
2023-10-30, 03:59 AM
I want the power above all the power in existence.

But, about the base class, it can be any other. The idea of an archivist is the possibility to have all the spells in the game. But optmization in this post, is a true powerfull combo. Including early entry for more prc levels.

"All the power in existence" is both vague and doesn't really lend itself to actual play. You could be Pun-Pun (https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Pun-Pun_(3.5e_Optimized_Character_Build)) by Shapechanging into Sarrukhs, but it would break your game in a way that doesn't allow counterplays, or you could cast an infinite number of spells (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?496834-The-Clockwork-Wizard-Everything-in-no-time) by abusing metamagic, but one of your turns would last hours, and no combat encounter would pose any meaningful challenge.

Thus, what do you want to do? Do you want to throw save-or-die with high DC (https://bg-archive.minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=4177.0)? To throw around massive damage (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?447435-quot-The-Mailman-A-Direct-Damage-Sorcerer-quot-(from-Wizards-forums))? To buff your party so that they win any fight (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?104002-3-5e-The-Logic-Ninja-s-Guide-to-Wizards-Being-Batman) while you bask in shadowy glory (https://www.enworld.org/threads/treantmonks-guide-to-wizards-being-a-god-in-d-d-3-5-treantmonklvl20-cantripn-tsuyoshi-dan2.471542/)?

The point is: one build can do it all (that's what being a tier 1 class means), but cannot be optimized in everything all at once. How do you like playing, and what style would integrate best in your party?

Edit: also, you may want to play a sorcerer rather than a prepared caster. It may be slightly less powerful in the grand scheme of things, but easier to manage, and doesn't require many trips to acquire all the spells you might need as scrolls to scribe them.

Clause
2023-10-30, 05:48 AM
Hello.
My goal here, is to make a spellcaster with a good numbervof spells, hight improvisational options, and that, the classes abilities can function in a best way in conjunction than by theirselfs. I want good ideas to use wyld mage powers with shadow adept powers.


Exactly now, i have another question: if i take shadow adept levels, and AFTER, take red wizard or master especialist, the powers aply fir the shadowy freakness??

Paragon
2023-10-30, 12:17 PM
I think you have Shadow Adept and Shadowcraft Mage mixed up. The real versatility is from the latter and you will find a very good handbook about it too.

Residual Magic, Alacritous Cogitation and Uncanny Foretought push this class over the tier 1 rank imo