Maat Mons
2023-11-28, 08:12 AM
I think that Egoist ACF that gives Changeling’s Minor Change Shape ability to a character of any race is neat. I especially like the idea of putting it on a Warforged to create a transforming spybot, assassinbot, or pleasurebot. But there are skills you’d want for those rolls that Egoist doesn’t innately give. Many of the feats that would normally be used to fix this are 1st-level only. That causes them to conflict with each other, since Warforged don’t gain a bonus feat at 1st level. And on top of that, they conflict with some good Warforged feats that are also 1st-level only. How would I resolve this issue? I considered prestige classes, but the results were not as good as I’d hoped, once I ruled out things that lost more than one manifester level.
Anarchic Initiate
4+Int skill points
Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Disguise, Gather Information, and Knowledge (local) from feats (City Slicker)
Ectopic Adept
Bluff, Disguise, and Knowledge (local) as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Disguise, and Gather Information from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
Quori Mindhunter
2+Int skill points
Bluff, Intimidate, and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Gather Information, and Sense Motive from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
(Illithid) Slayer
4+Int skill points
Bluff and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Disguise, Gather Information, and Knowledge (local) from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
Subverted Psion
2+Int skill points
Bluff, Intimidate, Knowledge (local), and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Disguise, and Gather Information from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
Uses taint mechanics
It’s almost enough to make me want to give up and use Egoist as just a 1-level dip, with some other casting or manifesting class doing the heavy lifting.
Also, if you were a shapeshifting robot, would you want Adamantine Body, so you have a good suite of armor that’s concealed by Minor Change Shape? Or would you want Unarmored Body, so you can put on armor as part of your disguise?
Anarchic Initiate
4+Int skill points
Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Disguise, Gather Information, and Knowledge (local) from feats (City Slicker)
Ectopic Adept
Bluff, Disguise, and Knowledge (local) as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Disguise, and Gather Information from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
Quori Mindhunter
2+Int skill points
Bluff, Intimidate, and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Gather Information, and Sense Motive from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
(Illithid) Slayer
4+Int skill points
Bluff and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Disguise, Gather Information, and Knowledge (local) from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
Subverted Psion
2+Int skill points
Bluff, Intimidate, Knowledge (local), and Sense Motive as class skills
Can gain Diplomacy, Disguise, and Gather Information from feats (City Slicker and Martial Study)
Uses taint mechanics
It’s almost enough to make me want to give up and use Egoist as just a 1-level dip, with some other casting or manifesting class doing the heavy lifting.
Also, if you were a shapeshifting robot, would you want Adamantine Body, so you have a good suite of armor that’s concealed by Minor Change Shape? Or would you want Unarmored Body, so you can put on armor as part of your disguise?