loky1109
2023-12-08, 01:24 PM
Welcome one and all to the Forty-Third round of Zinc Saucier challenge!
Here Playgrounders come to test their skill in, so to say, making cupcakes of fish or T-bone steak of green beans.
What exactly do you need to do? To make a build that has the same abilities and feel as the Secret Ingredient WITHOUT actually using it!
For this round I brought you a bit of Christmas mood. I want to ask you to call Snow Madden, say it with me: Sne! Goo! Roch! Ka! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0pcAuhpOeI) to make Rimefire Witch from Frostburn for this round.
Our challengers will have about 1 month to build a complete build up to Effective Character Level 20 using a 32 point buy and all official WotC D&D 3.5 materials (excluding Dragon Magazine, but including any WotC online enhancements) with the abilities and feel of a Rimefire Witch without actually being it.
Entries must be submitted by Sunday, 00:00 (12:00 am) GMT January 07, 2024. As usual, please submit your entries via private message to the chairman. Extensions are available.
Presentation would be best in the style of how the iron chef does their presentations, however any style is allowed so long as it is clear on how the build was made.
Judges will then have as many time as they needed to post scores for all dishes.
Contestants will be judged and awarded a score of 1 through 5 in each of 4 categories:
Innovation (Uniqueness in character concept, race, class, etc.)
Power (How powerful and versatile it is compared to the base class)
Elegance (What can only be described as how well the build "flows", i.e. not using lots of 1-2lv dips, sacrificing flavor for power or using flaws)
Ingredient (How well the build captures the abilities and feel of the base class)
Submission:
To standardize Entries, please use this format when sending it in:
PM: loky1109
Subject: Zinc Saucier 43, Name of your Entry
For revisions and disputes, do the same thing. It makes it easier for me finding the entries in my mail box.
If you have questions about the contest that feel inappropriate to ask in the main thread, please PM me with "Zinc Saucier 43 Questions". Keep in mind that I am not a judge, and so questions about how acceptable X or Y might be to judges will get (at best) a guess on my part due to my somewhat limited familiarity with the competitive community.
Recommended style is as the spoilers below. The end of the second post has a link to a Google Sheet that helps show the layout, if that will help you with planning out your build.
NAME OF ENTRY
Level
Class
Base Attack Bonus
Fort Save
Ref Save
Will Save
Skills
Feats
Class Features
1st
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
2nd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
3rd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
4th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
5th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
6th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
7th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
8th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
9th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
10th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
11th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
12th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
13th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
14th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
15th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
16th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
17th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
18th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
19th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
20th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
Code immediately below (spoiler).
Level
Class
Base Attack Bonus
Fort Save
Ref Save
Will Save
Skills
Feats
Class Features
1st
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
2nd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
3rd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
4th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
5th
New Class Level
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+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
6th
New Class Level
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Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
7th
New Class Level
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+x
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Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
8th
New Class Level
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+x
+x
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Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
9th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
10th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
11th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
12th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
13th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
14th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
15th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
16th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
17th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
18th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
19th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
20th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
For entries with spellcasting, use the following table for Spells per day and Spells Known. (Spells Known only if necessary, i.e. Sorcerer or Bard, but not Wizard or Warmage)Spells per Day/Spells Known
Level
0lvl
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th
1st
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
2nd
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
3rd
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
4th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
5th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
6th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
7th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
8th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
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9th
-
-
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-
-
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-
-
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10th
-
-
-
-
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-
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-
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-
11th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
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-
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12th
-
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-
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13th
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14th
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-
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-
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15th
-
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-
-
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16th
-
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17th
-
-
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-
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18th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
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19th
-
-
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20th
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Code immediately below (spoiler)Spells per Day/Spells Known
Level
0lvl
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th
1st
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-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
2nd
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
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-
3rd
-
-
-
-
-
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-
-
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4th
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5th
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6th
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7th
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8th
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9th
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10th
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11th
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12th
-
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13th
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14th
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-
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-
-
-
-
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15th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
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16th
-
-
-
-
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-
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-
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17th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
18th
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
19th
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20th
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Please do not post details of your build on the board before it is ready, so as not to spoil the surprise for others. Similarly, please try to refrain from speculating on possible builds too much even if you don't intend to use them yourself.
Soulknife
Bard
Monk
Assassin
Barbarian
Warlock
Paladin*
Warblade
Pyrokineticist
Ninja*
Druid
True Necromancer
Dervish
Whisperknife
Epic Infiltrator*
Master of Vipers
Ranger*
Flayerspawn Psychic
Totemist
Walker in the Waste
Drunken Master
Cleric
Duskblade
Psibond Agent
Argent Fist
Fighter
Artificier
Knight
Spellthief
Factorum no cooks submitted
Dragonfire Adept
Battle Dancer
Illithid Slayer one cook submitted
Swashbuckler
Chameleon
Dread Necromancer one cook submitted
Warmage
Kensai one cook submitted
Dread Pirate
Familiar
Life Eater
True Dragon
*: Classes marked with an asterisk have had their original posts updated to reflect the final results.
This competition is inspired by the Playground Iron Chef Competitions and uses mostly identical rules.
Here Playgrounders come to test their skill in, so to say, making cupcakes of fish or T-bone steak of green beans.
What exactly do you need to do? To make a build that has the same abilities and feel as the Secret Ingredient WITHOUT actually using it!
For this round I brought you a bit of Christmas mood. I want to ask you to call Snow Madden, say it with me: Sne! Goo! Roch! Ka! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0pcAuhpOeI) to make Rimefire Witch from Frostburn for this round.
Our challengers will have about 1 month to build a complete build up to Effective Character Level 20 using a 32 point buy and all official WotC D&D 3.5 materials (excluding Dragon Magazine, but including any WotC online enhancements) with the abilities and feel of a Rimefire Witch without actually being it.
Entries must be submitted by Sunday, 00:00 (12:00 am) GMT January 07, 2024. As usual, please submit your entries via private message to the chairman. Extensions are available.
Presentation would be best in the style of how the iron chef does their presentations, however any style is allowed so long as it is clear on how the build was made.
Judges will then have as many time as they needed to post scores for all dishes.
Contestants will be judged and awarded a score of 1 through 5 in each of 4 categories:
Innovation (Uniqueness in character concept, race, class, etc.)
Power (How powerful and versatile it is compared to the base class)
Elegance (What can only be described as how well the build "flows", i.e. not using lots of 1-2lv dips, sacrificing flavor for power or using flaws)
Ingredient (How well the build captures the abilities and feel of the base class)
Submission:
To standardize Entries, please use this format when sending it in:
PM: loky1109
Subject: Zinc Saucier 43, Name of your Entry
For revisions and disputes, do the same thing. It makes it easier for me finding the entries in my mail box.
If you have questions about the contest that feel inappropriate to ask in the main thread, please PM me with "Zinc Saucier 43 Questions". Keep in mind that I am not a judge, and so questions about how acceptable X or Y might be to judges will get (at best) a guess on my part due to my somewhat limited familiarity with the competitive community.
Recommended style is as the spoilers below. The end of the second post has a link to a Google Sheet that helps show the layout, if that will help you with planning out your build.
NAME OF ENTRY
Level
Class
Base Attack Bonus
Fort Save
Ref Save
Will Save
Skills
Feats
Class Features
1st
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
2nd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
3rd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
4th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
5th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
6th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
7th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
8th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
9th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
10th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
11th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
12th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
13th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
14th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
15th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
16th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
17th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
18th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
19th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
20th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
Code immediately below (spoiler).
Level
Class
Base Attack Bonus
Fort Save
Ref Save
Will Save
Skills
Feats
Class Features
1st
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
2nd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
3rd
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
4th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
5th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
6th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
7th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
8th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
9th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
10th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
11th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
12th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
13th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
14th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
15th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
16th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
17th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
18th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
19th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
20th
New Class Level
+x
+x
+x
+x
Skills
Feats
New Class Abilities
For entries with spellcasting, use the following table for Spells per day and Spells Known. (Spells Known only if necessary, i.e. Sorcerer or Bard, but not Wizard or Warmage)Spells per Day/Spells Known
Level
0lvl
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th
1st
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
2nd
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
3rd
-
-
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-
-
-
-
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4th
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5th
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6th
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Code immediately below (spoiler)Spells per Day/Spells Known
Level
0lvl
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th
1st
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Please do not post details of your build on the board before it is ready, so as not to spoil the surprise for others. Similarly, please try to refrain from speculating on possible builds too much even if you don't intend to use them yourself.
Soulknife
Bard
Monk
Assassin
Barbarian
Warlock
Paladin*
Warblade
Pyrokineticist
Ninja*
Druid
True Necromancer
Dervish
Whisperknife
Epic Infiltrator*
Master of Vipers
Ranger*
Flayerspawn Psychic
Totemist
Walker in the Waste
Drunken Master
Cleric
Duskblade
Psibond Agent
Argent Fist
Fighter
Artificier
Knight
Spellthief
Factorum no cooks submitted
Dragonfire Adept
Battle Dancer
Illithid Slayer one cook submitted
Swashbuckler
Chameleon
Dread Necromancer one cook submitted
Warmage
Kensai one cook submitted
Dread Pirate
Familiar
Life Eater
True Dragon
*: Classes marked with an asterisk have had their original posts updated to reflect the final results.
This competition is inspired by the Playground Iron Chef Competitions and uses mostly identical rules.