Gaining a Bloodline Familiar despite Familiar Bond?

[Kuro Dmon]

Title. Got a Sorcerer character in mind (those of you who know, you know. :smallwink:) And they have a familiar, gained through the Familiar (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/familiar-bond/) Bond Feat (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/improved-familiar-bond/) tree.

In the process of looking up Familiar tech, and trying to do other things too, I also discovered the Bloodline Familiar option (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/Wizard/familiar/#bloodline_familiars). And while I hardly Need what I'm looking for, it'd be cute if there was some way to gain a modified version of my Familiar.

Not sure if the Eldritch Heritage line would cover it, and boy would that eat even more feats if it did work. I figure it's probably not worth the effort...

But just in case, I figured I'd at least ask, and see if anyone more familiar with Pathfinder or any of its tech might know of ways outside the SRD.

[Kurald Galain]

That's easy enough. As a sorcerer, you can gain a bloodline familiar instead of your first-level bloodline power, allowing you to save three feats.

[Kuro Dmon]

That's easy enough. As a sorcerer, you can gain a bloodline familiar instead of your first-level bloodline power, allowing you to save three feats.

I meant to say that I didn't want to give up my 1st level blood-line power either, unfortunately. Heck, for what I'd be seeking out of my familiar, it'd be a step down.

.... though.... if the math works out, that 3 feats for the Eldritch Heritage line is worth more than trying to snag the Familiar and then power it up... there might be something in there...

Now I just wish there was a way to take the appropriate bloodline familiar and *still* keep your first level power, then. But that's just more of wanting to have a cake and eat it, too. :smallbiggrin:

[Kurald Galain]

I meant to say that I didn't want to give up my 1st level blood-line power either, unfortunately.

What bloodline are we talking about? Because frankly, most L1 bloodline powers aren't that great.

[Kuro Dmon]

What bloodline are we talking about? Because frankly, most L1 bloodline powers aren't that great.

Honestly, I was going to try to make an argument, at least for a character designed to barely scratch the bottom of Mid Op (if not be fully low op).

But in the process of doing so, I now wonder about what I've found, and I realize you've got a point.

I'm looking at the Bloodline Familiar of a Sorcerer with the Celestial Bloodline. At 10th level, with a Charisma Mod of +9, the Familiar's Fast Healing could grant 216 points of healing, basically unrestricted aside from time. Little Sugar Glider joining 1 ally in a battle, and then switching around to another, and so on, or even just stay on someone who was near death.
Meanwhile, at the same level and Charisma, the 1st level power of Heavenly Fire would only grant... even if the roll was maxed on each use, just 108 points of healing, and only 9 per ally once a day. Even if the Mystical Healer (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/3rd-party-feats/rite-publishing/general-feats-3rd-party-rite-publishing/mystical-healer/) feat were applied to it (assuming it couldn't also be applied to the fast healing of the Bloodline Familiar's Heavenly Touch... and frankly, I'm not sure that's the case never-mind, that was ridiculous), it'd still just be 192 on average, 16 to a single target per day.

So thanks for pointing that out. I think that does save me a ton of resources.

Now I just wonder if I'd discovered away to make that Heavenly Touch all the more powerful. That could be a ridiculous amount of fast healing if it worked...