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pabelfly
2023-12-19, 12:32 AM
So, Player's Guide to Faerun details Lesser Planetouched: they're humanoids, rather than outsiders, with the Planetouched subtype. The book also details the existence of Planetouched Aasimar, Genasi of various elements, and Tieflings.

Now, can this "lesser planetouched" alteration extend to other "Planetouched" races by RAW, such as those in Dragon 350 (eg. Azerblood, Celadrin, and D'hin'ni) and Dragon 297 (Cansin, Axani, Para-Genasi, and Dust) ? Or does Lesser Planetouched only extend to races within the Player's Guide to Faerun book?

Paragon
2023-12-19, 02:35 AM
The Master Race List has applied the rule to many other 1hd outsiders. The ones in the Dragon mag you mention as well as some in MMII and all the para genesis.
I personally feel it kosher if cheesy

Zombulian
2023-12-27, 12:52 PM
It applied to all planetouched races tmk.

Metastachydium
2023-12-27, 03:09 PM
The Master Race List has applied the rule to many other 1hd outsiders. The ones in the Dragon mag you mention as well as some in MMII and all the para genesis.
I personally feel it kosher if cheesy

No love for FF and PH stuff? Shame!


It applied to all planetouched races tmk.

Yeah. I don't think the language implies otherwise anywhere.

Powerdork
2024-01-01, 12:18 AM
I feel like the presence of an option is meant to at least be a hint towards its prevalence in the grander D&D ball-of-stuff-that-I-resent-is-called-the-multiverse, with options that have more express support and writing around them being correspondingly more prevalent in the assumed world.

But I'm not a cop or the designers or even someone who studies games, just someone who has a thought now and then.

What's the default lore surrounding the propagation of lesser planetouched? (If you answer, please indicate if any part of your answer isn't found in PGtF, for ease of research.)

pabelfly
2024-01-01, 01:29 AM
No love for FF and PH stuff? Shame!

So I've actually been slowly working on a full table of races and templates by ECL. It was too hard to find material that compared races by stats, let alone other traits like type or size and so forth. I used this this thread to work out if other versions of Lesser Planetouched races actually existed. Seems like they do. Pretty sure this is the full list, and I have remembered Fiend Folio and Planar Handbook stuff.

This is only a small snippet of the work I've done so far, let alone what still needs to be done, but I think this is the full list of Lesser Planetouched races.

ECL 1


Race
STR
DEX
CON
INT
WIS
CHA
Size
Move Speed
Abilities
Creature Type
Favored Class
Book


Planetouched (Aasimar, Lesser)




+2
+2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Paladin
(SRD) (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/planetouched.htm#aasimar)
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192



Planetouched (Axani, Lesser)



+2
+2

Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Monk
Dragon Magazine 297, p63
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192



Planetouched (Azerblood, Lesser)
+2

+2


-2
Medium
30ft
Dwarven Blood
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Dragon Magazine 350, p52
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Cansin, Lesser)



+2

+2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Sorcerer
Dragon Magazine 297, p64



Planetouched (Celadrin, Lesser)

+2
-2


+2
Medium
30ft
Elven Blood
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Bard
Dragon Magazine 350, p53
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Chaond, Lesser)

+4
+2


-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
First class chosen
Monster Manual II, p170
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (D'hin'ni, Lesser)

+2


-2
+2
Medium
20ft
Halfling Blood
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Sorcerer
Dragon Magazine 350, p54
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Genasi, Air, Lesser)

+2

+2
-2
-2
Medium
30ft
Breathless
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, p19
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Genasi, Earth, Lesser)
+2

+2

-2
-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, p19


Planetouched (Genasi, Fire, Lesser)



+2

-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, p19
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Genasi, Water, Lesser)


+2


-2
Medium
30ft
Breathe Water
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, p19
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Maeluth, Lesser)

-2
+4



Medium
20ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)

Fiend Folio, p136
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Mechanatrix, Lesser)

-2
+2
+2

-2
Medium
20ft
Electricity Healing
Humanoid (Planetouched)

Fiend Folio, p136
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Mephling, Air, Lesser)

+2

-2

-2
Medium
30ftFly 10ft (Perfect)

Humanoid (Extraplanar, Lesser)
Bard
Planar Handbook, p10
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Mephling, Earth, Lesser)
+2
-2

-2

-2
Medium
30ft, Burrow 10ft

Humanoid (Extraplanar, Lesser)
Druid
Planar Handbook, p10
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Mephling, Fire, Lesser)

+2

-2

-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Extraplanar, Lesser)
Sorcerer
Planar Handbook, p10
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Mephling, Water, Lesser)


+2
-2

-2
Medium
30ft
Swim 30ft

Humanoid (Extraplanar, Lesser)
Monk
Planar Handbook, p10
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Para-Genasi, Dust, Lesser)

+4

+2
-2
-2
Medium
30ft
Breathless
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Monk
Dragon Magazine 297, p64
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Para-Genasi, Ice, Lesser)

-2
+4

+2
-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Dragon Magazine 297, p64
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Para-Genasi, Magma, Lesser)
+2

+2
-2
-2

Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Dragon Magazine 297, p65
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Para-Genasi, Ooze, Lesser)


+4


-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Fighter
Dragon Magazine 297, p65
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Para-Genasi, Smoke, Lesser)

+2

+2

-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Wizard
Dragon Magazine 297, p65
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Shadowswyft, Lesser)

+2
-2



Medium
40ft

Humanoid (Planetouched) (Extraplanar, Lesser)
Rogue
Planar Handbook, p13
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Para-Genasi, Steam, Lesser)

+2



-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Rogue
Dragon Magazine 297, p65
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Tiefling, Lesser)

+2

+2

-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Rogue
(SRD) (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/planetouched.htm#tiefling)
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Wildren, Lesser)

-2
+4


-2
Medium
20ft, Burrow 10ft
Scent
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Barbarian
Planar Handbook, p16
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Wispling, Lesser)
-2
+4

+2


Small
20ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)

Fiend Folio, p139
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192


Planetouched (Zenythri, Lesser)

+2
+2

+2
-2
Medium
30ft

Humanoid (Planetouched)
Monk
Monster Manual II, p170
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192




ECL 2


Race
HD, LA
STR
DEX
CON
INT
WIS
CHA
Size
Move Speed
Abilities
Creature Type
Assorted Notes
Book


Planetouched (Fey’ri, Lesser)
+1 LA

+2
-2
+2


Medium
30ft
Fly 40ft (Poor)
Darkvision, Low-Light Vision, Elven Blood
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Monk
Races of Faerun, p119
Player’s Guide to Faerun, p191


Planetouched (Gloaming, Lesser)
+1 LA
-2
+2


-2
+2
Small
20ft
Fly 40ft (Average)
Darkvision
Humanoid (Planetouched)
Sorcerer
Underdark, p12
Player’s Guide to Faerun, p191


Planetouched (Worghest, Lesser)
+1 LA
+2
+2



-2
Medium
20ft
Darkvision, Low-Light Vision, Scent, Change Shape, Feed, Trip
Humanoid (Planetouched)

Dragon Magazine 350, p56
Player's Guide to Faerun, p192

Zombulian
2024-01-01, 01:37 AM
There’s a Lesser Planetouched Handbook from the old BG or MinMax boards out there too.

ShurikVch
2024-01-03, 07:16 AM
Tanarukks are explicitly called Planetouched in Faerûn books

In the Unapproachable East, Mur-Zhagul troll is called Planetouched

Arhuably, also Baphitaurs (from Underdark) - while they weren't called Planetouched per se, their article says:

Baphitaurs are the offspring of tieflings mated through unholy sorcery with minotaurs. Though similar in fundamental principle to tieflings, which are descended from human and demon pairings, baphitaurs are the products of magical experimentation rather than demonic breeding as such.

pabelfly
2024-01-03, 09:16 AM
Tanarukks are explicitly called Planetouched in Faerûn books

In the Unapproachable East, Mur-Zhagul troll is called Planetouched

Arhuably, also Baphitaurs (from Underdark) - while they weren't called Planetouched per se, their article says:

Thanks for this, I'll make sure they're both on the master list.

Metastachydium
2024-01-03, 03:27 PM
Also, Mephlings are an odd duck, since they are Humanoids (if Extraplanar), so understood as a template, Lesser Planetouched isn't really something one can readily apply to them, and even that snippet of lore that suggests they might be Planetouched is quick to add that they may just as well not be.

EDIT: And I'm pretty sure Zenythri have STR/DEX/WIS/-CHA, not DEX/CON/WIS/-CHA.

ShurikVch
2024-01-04, 05:00 PM
Also, FWIW, Planewalker.com ("THE OFFICIAL PLANESCAPE WEBSITE") has Negative (https://web.archive.org/web/20061029060725/http://www.planewalker.com/codex/entry.php?intEntryID=10547) and Positive (https://web.archive.org/web/20061029060245/http://www.planewalker.com/codex/entry.php?intEntryID=10548) Energy Genasi

Metastachydium
2024-01-05, 08:28 AM
I'm pretty sure that's not 1st party, but hey, the core idea is sound.

pabelfly
2024-01-06, 01:19 AM
I'm pretty sure that's not 1st party, but hey, the core idea is sound.

Eh, the list I'm working from (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?401132-Lists-of-Every-Playable-Monster-by-ECL) has Dark Sun, and third-party stuff like Bestiary of Krynn creatures. What's a few more minutes more work when I have full weeks worth to go?